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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 19, 2022 5:28:58 GMT -5
Is it just me or is she lip syncing Havana? James is way louder than her, and when she actually sings, it's way louder than the parts I suspect she isn't singing. It's similar in Don't Go Yet. She seems way more into it when Bam Bam and Liar come on and her singing is much more obvious
It's funny too how she chose between X Factor and The Voice. It's crazy thinking how different her life, and the band (if it even came into existence without her), would be had she gone for The Voice
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Post by felipe on Apr 19, 2022 8:05:43 GMT -5
The rollout was indeed not the greatest, but I applaud her team for securing a bunch of promo spots for her regardless. She's on the cover of Today's Top Hits while having 2 singles featured on it. She's booked multiple prestigious TV promo slots, and big online platforms too. Basically, they did a great job hyping up for this album on all fronts without having a blockbuster single during release week. The table could turn after "Bam Bam" climbs up the chart. We will see. One thing we have to admit is label will still be pouring money on her even when all her singles are flopping and gp is showing no interest in her. Girl will be everywhere.
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 19, 2022 22:33:38 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Apr 20, 2022 11:13:50 GMT -5
The rollout was indeed not the greatest, but I applaud her team for securing a bunch of promo spots for her regardless. She's on the cover of Today's Top Hits while having 2 singles featured on it. She's booked multiple prestigious TV promo slots, and big online platforms too. Basically, they did a great job hyping up for this album on all fronts without having a blockbuster single during release week. The table could turn after "Bam Bam" climbs up the chart. We will see. One thing we have to admit is label will still be pouring money on her even when all her singles are flopping and gp is showing no interest in her. Girl will be everywhere. Up to this point sure, but making "Bam Bam" a top 30 hit and the album barely going top 10 is probably not a good enough result for the budget not to shrink next time. I love "Hasta los Dientes", and I think "psychofreak" would make a good single at this stage, but neither is gonna be a major US hit imo.
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Post by gbaby on Apr 20, 2022 14:21:29 GMT -5
I'd like her to lean more into reggaeton again. I think she'd do well with an album of reggaeton bops. Of course, I think it'd be expected that she'd have several collabs, but I'm good with that!
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Post by Music Fan on Apr 20, 2022 17:48:21 GMT -5
I really do think she and Shawn both suffered from their relationship exposure. Because, she puts out decent music. It's not amazing music, but definitely hit-worthy music that has stalled or landed way lower than it should have.
Just listened to the album. I'm not necessarily her fan so I won't be returning much to it, but it's enjoyable and added a couple bops to my every day playlist. I'm not sure how it compares to her previous albums since I haven't listened to them in full.
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Post by felipe on Apr 20, 2022 23:04:17 GMT -5
One thing we have to admit is label will still be pouring money on her even when all her singles are flopping and gp is showing no interest in her. Girl will be everywhere. Up to this point sure, but making "Bam Bam" a top 30 hit and the album barely going top 10 is probably not a good enough result for the budget not to shrink next time. I love "Hasta los Dientes", and I think "psychofreak" would make a good single at this stage, but neither is gonna be a major US hit imo. True, but after Romance flopped so hard one wouldn't expect the label to be promoting her following album so hard, yet here we are. Every time she releases something she is virtually everywhere. It makes it seem like she's this big deal, but actually all these years she's had like two solo hits.
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Post by c0ldasfire on Apr 22, 2022 17:21:09 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Apr 26, 2022 16:16:52 GMT -5
Actually comes at #52 on the BB200.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Apr 27, 2022 20:39:06 GMT -5
Camila is doing something with Victoria's Secret
Didn't her or her team know that VS is basically over now after the gross comments they made about not being inclusive and stuff? Then again, that would be on brand for her in light of the stuff she said about her Fifth Avenue group members and the old social media account postings she had that were racist.
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Post by gbaby on May 2, 2022 9:35:38 GMT -5
Camila is doing something with Victoria's Secret Didn't her or her team know that VS is basically over now after the gross comments they made about not being inclusive and stuff? Then again, that would be on brand for her in light of the stuff she said about her Fifth Avenue group members and the old social media account postings she had that were racist. Not Fifth Avenue! Separately, did not know about this VS drama. Have their sales taken a hit since?
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Post by leonagwen on May 2, 2022 21:53:11 GMT -5
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on May 2, 2022 21:59:24 GMT -5
Separately, did not know about this VS drama. Have their sales taken a hit since? Yes. Other companies that are offering extended sizes and whatnot such as Rihanna's Fenty X Savage have done really well.
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Post by Music Fan on May 4, 2022 20:57:09 GMT -5
Separately, did not know about this VS drama. Have their sales taken a hit since? Yes. Other companies that are offering extended sizes and whatnot such as Rihanna's Fenty X Savage have done really well. Savage x Fenty's revenue in 2021 was approximately $300M and Victoria's Secret's approximately 6 billion. The industry revenue in 2021 was $15.8B. I'd say this is a pretty damn good thing for Camila.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on May 4, 2022 21:28:45 GMT -5
Yes. Other companies that are offering extended sizes and whatnot such as Rihanna's Fenty X Savage have done really well. Savage x Fenty's revenue in 2021 was approximately $300M and Victoria's Secret's approximately 6 billion. The industry revenue in 2021 was $15.8B. I'd say this is a pretty damn good thing for Camila. There are still plenty who don't know or care about what VS said and did so they haven't lost those customers.
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Post by iHype. on May 4, 2022 21:57:19 GMT -5
I really do think she and Shawn both suffered from their relationship exposure. Because, she puts out decent music. It's not amazing music, but definitely hit-worthy music that has stalled or landed way lower than it should have. Just listened to the album. I'm not necessarily her fan so I won't be returning much to it, but it's enjoyable and added a couple bops to my every day playlist. I'm not sure how it compares to her previous albums since I haven't listened to them in full. I just don’t think people care about her or find her to be an interesting artist. She may have one or two catchy tunes on radio but that’s it. It’s absolutely insane the amount of online hype, industry budget, label backing, etc that Fifth Harmony/Camila (solo)/Normani (solo) have all had only for it to resort to a radio hit here and there and disastrous album releases each time. Fifth Harmony was hyped as the girl group that would revive girl groups in the US, they managed to actually get big radio hits, and still… their albums opened around 50k each time. Camila has had multiple massive hits and still hasn’t truly broke out. Normani has had unprecedented hype and still hasn’t broke out whatsoever. This is like 8 eras combined and a decade hype between that group and these solo endeavors, nothing has resulted from any of it. I’m not actually sure what they can offer at this point they already haven’t. And if anything, the breakup with Shawn would’ve been her last shot at a career elevation. We’ve witnessed a whole group of Pop girls reach new peaks following breakups with their music (Thank U Next, Drivers License, MAMIII). The fact she broke up with him and nobody batted an eye towards her next move really says enough lol.
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Post by c0ldasfire on May 6, 2022 9:29:45 GMT -5
I really do think she and Shawn both suffered from their relationship exposure. Because, she puts out decent music. It's not amazing music, but definitely hit-worthy music that has stalled or landed way lower than it should have. Just listened to the album. I'm not necessarily her fan so I won't be returning much to it, but it's enjoyable and added a couple bops to my every day playlist. I'm not sure how it compares to her previous albums since I haven't listened to them in full. I just don’t think people care about her or find her to be an interesting artist. She may have one or two catchy tunes on radio but that’s it. It’s absolutely insane the amount of online hype, industry budget, label backing, etc that Fifth Harmony/Camila (solo)/Normani (solo) have all had only for it to resort to a radio hit here and there and disastrous album releases each time. Fifth Harmony was hyped as the girl group that would revive girl groups in the US, they managed to actually get big radio hits, and still… their albums opened around 50k each time. Camila has had multiple massive hits and still hasn’t truly broke out. Normani has had unprecedented hype and still hasn’t broke out whatsoever. This is like 8 eras combined and a decade hype between that group and these solo endeavors, nothing has resulted from any of it. I’m not actually sure what they can offer at this point they already haven’t. And if anything, the breakup with Shawn would’ve been her last shot at a career elevation. We’ve witnessed a whole group of Pop girls reach new peaks following breakups with their music (Thank U Next, Drivers License, MAMIII). The fact she broke up with him and nobody batted an eye towards her next move really says enough lol. I have to agree with this. Nearly all of her hit songs have been features. No one is checking out songs that feature just herself. I just don’t get it.
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Post by Taylor. on May 15, 2022 13:34:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2022 7:00:48 GMT -5
💀💀💀💀💀💀 her team is insane damn girl.
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Post by Active Aggressive on May 16, 2022 13:54:08 GMT -5
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Post by divasummer on May 16, 2022 16:41:18 GMT -5
💀💀💀💀💀💀 her team is insane damn girl. I agree with your comment but, From what I can remember she was very good on The Voice last season. She was likable, into it, gave some good advice. She’s a great performer and works hard. She will probably do well.
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Post by felipe on May 17, 2022 8:07:05 GMT -5
I really do think she and Shawn both suffered from their relationship exposure. Because, she puts out decent music. It's not amazing music, but definitely hit-worthy music that has stalled or landed way lower than it should have. Just listened to the album. I'm not necessarily her fan so I won't be returning much to it, but it's enjoyable and added a couple bops to my every day playlist. I'm not sure how it compares to her previous albums since I haven't listened to them in full. I just don’t think people care about her or find her to be an interesting artist. She may have one or two catchy tunes on radio but that’s it. It’s absolutely insane the amount of online hype, industry budget, label backing, etc that Fifth Harmony/Camila (solo)/Normani (solo) have all had only for it to resort to a radio hit here and there and disastrous album releases each time. Fifth Harmony was hyped as the girl group that would revive girl groups in the US, they managed to actually get big radio hits, and still… their albums opened around 50k each time. Camila has had multiple massive hits and still hasn’t truly broke out. Normani has had unprecedented hype and still hasn’t broke out whatsoever. This is like 8 eras combined and a decade hype between that group and these solo endeavors, nothing has resulted from any of it. I’m not actually sure what they can offer at this point they already haven’t. And if anything, the breakup with Shawn would’ve been her last shot at a career elevation. We’ve witnessed a whole group of Pop girls reach new peaks following breakups with their music (Thank U Next, Drivers License, MAMIII). The fact she broke up with him and nobody batted an eye towards her next move really says enough lol. I agree. No matter how hard she flops label will still be pouring money onto her. Girl is everywhere, getting so many good promo spots that one would think she's a big deal. But clearly there isn't enough interest about her. And now I read she'll be a coach on The Voice, just like Ariana Grande and Kelly Clarkson. See? She either has the best manager in the business or I don't know what else it could be.
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Post by Ling-Ling on May 17, 2022 8:36:06 GMT -5
Camila is a relatively recent hitmaker and she has roots in singing competition shows (not to mention her previous stint already on The Voice), I don't think it's a big stretch for her to be on the show. People are acting like her manager had to blackmail somebody to get her the slot, lol.
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Post by schnetzka on May 17, 2022 8:56:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I get a lot of people aren't the biggest fans of Camila, but she has had a decently successful career so far. She may not have hit after hit but she's also not a nobody. Being a judge on The Voice is not something out of her realm.
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Post by pnobelysk on May 17, 2022 10:33:07 GMT -5
She’s also had Incredible management her entire career so I’m not shocked
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Post by survivorqt on May 18, 2022 16:28:48 GMT -5
Camila is a relatively recent hitmaker and she has roots in singing competition shows (not to mention her previous stint already on The Voice), I don't think it's a big stretch for her to be on the show. People are acting like her manager had to blackmail somebody to get her the slot, lol. Yes but someone with Camilla’s ALBUM sales you would think she should be dropped from her label or budget decreased by a lot 😂 but nope they’re still presenting her as a superstar. There’s no denying that album sales have a direct link on how a tour would sell
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Post by Music Fan on May 19, 2022 19:27:20 GMT -5
We're also acting like being on The Voice means you're the #1 hitmaker of your time. Hell, the only one who was on The Voice and *did not need The Voice* was Ariana. Everyone else, Gwen, John Legend, Adam Levine, CeeLo, Blake, and even Kelly have benefitted greatly from being on the show. Camila is just the perfect fit.
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Post by leonagwen on May 19, 2022 22:48:18 GMT -5
I'm gonna enjoy the voice next season, Gwen and Camila are 2 of my favorites.
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Post by felipe on May 22, 2022 15:27:56 GMT -5
We're also acting like being on The Voice means you're the #1 hitmaker of your time. Hell, the only one who was on The Voice and *did not need The Voice* was Ariana. Everyone else, Gwen, John Legend, Adam Levine, CeeLo, Blake, and even Kelly have benefitted greatly from being on the show. Camila is just the perfect fit. I get that Kelly, Gwen or Adam were not huge hitmakers when they were hired to be on the show, but they were all huge hitmakers at one point. Not counting the features, how many hits does Camila have? 2? She's had three album eras and in each of them she struggled to get a hit or sell albums... It's not that hard to understand why people might be surprised to see her joining The Voice.
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Post by pnobelysk on May 22, 2022 20:07:22 GMT -5
We're also acting like being on The Voice means you're the #1 hitmaker of your time. Hell, the only one who was on The Voice and *did not need The Voice* was Ariana. Everyone else, Gwen, John Legend, Adam Levine, CeeLo, Blake, and even Kelly have benefitted greatly from being on the show. Camila is just the perfect fit. I get that Kelly, Gwen or Adam were not huge hitmakers when they were hired to be on the show, but they were all huge hitmakers at one point. Not counting the features, how many hits does Camila have? 2? She's had three album eras and in each of them she struggled to get a hit or sell albums... It's not that hard to understand why people might be surprised to see her joining The Voice. Havana Never be the same My oh my Senorita (both are leads) Then the fifth Harmony hits Work from home Worth it Flex Sledgehammer (moderate hit) Plus the features. Her resume isn’t bad she just has a handful of misses with it
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