Billboard Hot 100: 09/18/2021

[thegreatdivine]

Weeks in the top 10.
9 Stay
1 Way 2 Sexy
1 Girls Want Girls
1 Fair Trade
1 Champagne Poetry
1 Knife Talk
1 In the Bible
1 Papi's Home
1 TSU
1 Love All

[Enigma.]

Sept 14, 2021 0:05:59 GMT -5 atg said:

Sept 13, 2021 17:59:51 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

At least Future got his first #1 in "Way 2 Sexy", "Life is Good" deserved to get at least a week last year.

Now Lil Baby is the new #2 guy who probably won’t get a number 1 until either Girls Want Girls being pushed as the next single, Hurricane eventually getting to #1, or waiting until his next era. I really hope the latter gets picked up heavily on radio so it becomes one of the best #1s this year.

Hurricane has no chance to return to top ten without major airplay success. And he isn't even credited there so there would be an asterisk either way.

[Au$tin]

Sept 13, 2021 12:58:39 GMT -5 mylo said:

The top ten be like:

d r a k e

No it's not. It actually be like

d r a STAY k e

[After Minutes]

Had Donda been announced and released on the 3rd, the entire top 20 would have been debuts with both albums playing off eachother even heavier. Such a missed opportunity for chart-watchers, but I get the logistics behind that

[thegreatdivine]

Drake's Hot 100 top 10 hits every year since 2009:
2009: 2
2010: 3
2011: 4
2012: 0
*2013: 4
2014: 0
2015: 1
*2016: 4
2017: 2
*2018: 13
2019: 2
*2020: 7
*2021: 12

* — marks a year in which Drake scored the most top 10 hits among all other artists.

[thegreatdivine]

Most top 10 hits of the 2010s decade:
1. Drake - 33
2. Taylor Swift - 21
3. Rihanna - 18
4. Nicki Minaj - 17
5. Justin Bieber - 16
6. Bruno Mars - 15
7. Lil Wayne - 14
8. Ariana Grande - 14
9. Maroon 5 - 12
10. Katy Perry - 11

Most top 10 hits in the 2020s decade:
1. Drake - 19
2. Justin Bieber - 8
3. Juice WRLD - 7
4. BTS - 6
5. Lil Baby - 6
6. Ariana Grande - 5
7. J. Cole - 5
8. 21 Savage - 4
9. The Weeknd - 4
10. Olivia Rodrigo - 4

[wavey.]

I'm amazed really.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Notable Gains:
#72. Scotty McCreery - You Time (+10)
#74. Jordan Davis feat. Luke Combs - Buy Dirt (+10)

Notable Losses:
#13. Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits (-11)
#14. Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u (-11)
#17. BTS - Butter (-16)
#19. Doja Cat feat. SZA - Kiss Me More (-14)
#20. Lil Nas X and Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY (-13)
#21. Walker Hayes - Fancy Like (-12)
#23. Dua Lipa feat. DaBaby - Levitating (-15)
#28. The Weeknd feat. Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (-14)
#29. Kanye West feat. The Weeknd and Lil Baby - Hurricane (-23)
#30. Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) (-15)
#31. Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu (-18)
#33. Glass Animals - Heat Waves (-10)
#34. WizKid feat. Justin Bieber and Tems - Essence (-15)
#36. Doja Cat and The Weeknd - You Right (-15)
#37. The Weeknd - Take My Breath (-12)
#38. Doja Cat - Need to Know (-14)
#41. Kanye West feat. Playboi Carti and Fivio Foreign - Off the Grid (-30)
#44. Baby Keem feat. Kendrick Lamar - family ties (-26)
#46. Silk Sonic (Bruno Mars and Anderson .Paak) - Leave the Door Open (-17)
#47. Justin Bieber feat. Daniel Caesar and GIVEON - Peaches (-16)
#48. Luke Bryan - Waves (-11)
#49. Olivia Rodrigo - traitor (-10)
#50. Kanye West feat. Don Toliver and Kid Cudi - Moon (-33)
#54. Duncan Laurence - Arcade (-10)
#57. Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit (-11)
#58. Kanye West feat. Jay-Z - Jail (-48)
#59. Roddy Ricch - Late at Night (-11)
#63. Meek Mill feat. Lil Baby and Lil Durk - Sharing Locations (-41)
#64. DJ Khaled feat. Lil Baby and Lil Durk - EVERY CHANCE I GET (-15)
#65. Kanye West feat. Lil Yachty and Rooga - Ok Ok (-53)
#66. Kanye West feat. Baby Keem and Travis Scott - Praise God (-46)
#67. Silk Sonic (Bruno Mars and Anderson .Paak) - Skate (-10)
#71. Chase Rice feat. Florida Georgia Line - Drinkin' Beer. Talkin' God. Amen. (-10)
#75. Sleepy Hallow - 2055 (-13)
#78. Kanye West feat. Playboi Carti - Junya (-62)
#81. Justin Moore - We Didn't Have Much (-16)
#83. Normani feat. Cardi B - Wild Side (-12)
#84. Bad Bunny - Yonaguin (-11)
#85. Kanye West - Believe What I Say (-57)
#86. Kane Brown and blackbear - Memory (-11)
#91. Kanye West feat. Lil Durk and Vory - Jonah (-64)
#95. Kanye West feat. Jay Electronica - Jesus Lord (-69)
#96. Shawn Mendes and Tainy - Summer of Love (-11)
#99. Kanye West feat. Young Thug - Remote Control (-59)

Notable Dropouts:
Forever After All (45 weeks)
Heartbreak Anniversary (29 weeks)
Come Through (13 weeks)
brutal (12 weeks)
AM (10 weeks)

Biggest Airplay Gain: STAY
Biggest Streaming Gain: Heat Waves
Biggest Sales Gain: If I Didn't Love You

Gained in Points:
#39. Måneskin - Beggin' (-4)
#42. Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever (-4)
#43. Jason Aldean and Carrie Underwood - If I Didn't Love You (+7)
#52. Thomas Rhett - Country Again (-1)
#56. Jameson Rodgers feat. Luke Combs - Cold Beer Calling My Name (-1)
#60. Tai Verdes - A-O-K (-4)
#61. Old Dominion - I Was on a Boat that Day (+6)
#69. Dua Lipa - Love Again (-3)
#70. Lee Brice - Memory I Don't Mess With
#76. Luke Combs - Cold as You (+4)
#89. Elvie Shane - My Boy (-2)
#92. Chris Stapleton - You Should Probably Leave (-1)
#94. Dustin Lynch feat. Lauren Alaina or MacKenzie Porter - Thinkin' Bout You (-1)

[wyckyd]

Meek Mill managed to notch the only new entry this week that’s not from CLB, with “Blue Note$ II” f/ Lil Uzi Vert at #87.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

[leonagwen]

Billboard is getting to be a joke! Change the chart formula! When a big named artist releases a new album, the song that's released as a single should be the only song to be allowed to chart at that time. 10 songs in the top 10 by the same artist is ridiculous.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Sept 14, 2021 5:46:15 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Billboard is getting to be a joke! Change the chart formula! When a big named artist releases a new album, the song that's released as a single should be the only song to chart at that time. 10 songs in the top 10 by the same artist is ridiculous.

So basically u want the charts to be less accurate?

[leonagwen]

Sept 14, 2021 5:47:29 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Sept 14, 2021 5:46:15 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Billboard is getting to be a joke! Change the chart formula! When a big named artist releases a new album, the song that's released as a single should be the only song to chart at that time. 10 songs in the top 10 by the same artist is ridiculous.

So basically u want the charts to be less accurate?

It's not accurate.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Sept 14, 2021 5:54:41 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Sept 14, 2021 5:47:29 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

So basically u want the charts to be less accurate?

It's not accurate.

It is accurate. All of CLB was the most consumed on Spotify and AM. This wasn't manipulated by a small group of people, these were the most consumed songs this week. And the reason they're so high is because they pulled in record numbers. 

Far be it for me to defend this boring as s**t album but this is 10000x times more accurate and representative of what the general public was listening to than Butter being mass bought. And going back to the 60s-90s format of only allowing singles to chart would prevent a number of viral hits from charting.

[kierz7]

Sept 13, 2021 18:32:24 GMT -5 iHype. said:

All-Time Hot 100 Artists:
10. Rihanna - 12.08m
11. (+1) Drake - 11.79m~ (+0.27m this week)
12. (-1) The Rolling Stones - 11.61m

Rihanna’s Hot 100 dominance at her peak was so COLOSSAL that she is on the verge of being surpassed by another act only now and that’s only because she hasn’t released no more than 4 singles in 4 years and no album since 2016, whilst Drake has objectively peaked since her “quasi-(music)-retirement”. Outside of Drake, no other current artist comes close to her.

💀

Even then, her core Hot 100 achievements are still stable.

• #1’s: 14 vs. 9
• Weeks at #1: 61 vs. 52
• Weeks in the Top Ten: 360 vs. 310

I can’t wait for her return - I need her to score her 15th/16th #1’s (and more) and quickly.

[leonagwen]

Sept 14, 2021 5:56:32 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Sept 14, 2021 5:54:41 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

It's not accurate.

It is accurate. All of CLB was the most consumed on Spotify and AM. This was manipulated by a small group of people, these were the most consumed songs this week. And the reason they're so high is because they pulled in record numbers. 

Far be it for me to defend this boring as s**t album but this is 10000x times more accurate and representative of what the general public was listening to than Butter being mass bought. And going back to the 60s-90s format of only allowing singles to chart would prevent a number of viral hits from charting.

And next week Drake will probably only have 2 songs, maybe 1 in the top 10.

[kierz7]

Sept 13, 2021 18:32:31 GMT -5 leoapp said:

Sad that Janet's most top 5 from 1 album record will be broken...
Drake only needs 2 more top 5s from CLB...
But records are mean to be broken

It’s not happening.

Unless Drake re-releases a deluxe version of “CLB” and those additional songs debut in the top five of the Hot 100, or the songs that didn’t make the top five this week climb into the top five next week (and thereafter), the album isn’t seeing 7 top five songs.

That said, “RN:1814” had 7 top five ‘hits’ - all of which peaked in the top five of both the sales and airplay charts in their respective years and all of which made the top 50 Hot 100 YEC.

Also, “State Of The World”, the albums EIGHTH single, was a top five airplay hit in summer 1991 but, unfortunately, wasn’t released as a physical single (therefore was ineligible to chart) otherwise Jackson would’ve scored 8 top five singles.

One is not like the other.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Sept 14, 2021 6:16:01 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Sept 14, 2021 5:56:32 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

It is accurate. All of CLB was the most consumed on Spotify and AM. This was manipulated by a small group of people, these were the most consumed songs this week. And the reason they're so high is because they pulled in record numbers. 

Far be it for me to defend this boring as s**t album but this is 10000x times more accurate and representative of what the general public was listening to than Butter being mass bought. And going back to the 60s-90s format of only allowing singles to chart would prevent a number of viral hits from charting.

And next week Drake will probably only have 2 songs, maybe 1 in the top 10.

What the charts look like next week is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if this songs have sustainability next week. If songs fall off, that doesn' negate this week was mostly accurate. I don't understand how you're not getting that. 

This is a chart about consumption, sustainable hits are a byproduct

[Az Paynter]

Personally, I think Drake is overrated af and I will never understand what's so special that he's become this big a thing. But that is neither here nor there.

He got the streaming numbers, ergo he got the points, ergo he got the chart positions. That is all. The biggest problem with the Hot 100 remains the sales loophole abuse perpetuated by the ARMY.

[leonagwen]

Like I said before, the song that's released as a single should be the only song allowed to chart. Album tracks that are not singles shouldn't be allowed to chart. Just my opinion.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Sept 14, 2021 6:39:11 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Like I said before, the song that's released as a single should be the only song allowed to chart. Album tracks that are not singles shouldn't be allowed to chart. Just my opinion.

But it's pointless to do this because in the age of streaming, no one just consumes just the singles anymore. And even when they did, back in the 90s, this prevented tons of songs from charting or going higher in the charts because they weren't given a radio release.

Sticking to a 'single-only' chart format makes things more inaccurate, that's the reality.

[After Minutes]

Sept 14, 2021 6:39:11 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Like I said before, the song that's released as a single should be the only song allowed to chart. Album tracks that are not singles shouldn't be allowed to chart. Just my opinion.

So The Box wasn't actually a hit for most of the weeks it spent at #1 because it wasn't sent to the radio?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Songs that weren't immediately sent to radio when they were number-one hits:
Old Town Road
Peaches (was sent early)
good 4 u (was sent early)
In My Feelings (original single was gonna be Don't Matter to Me)
The Box
This is America
Harlem Shake
Bad and Boujee

And these are just the number-one hits, there's a ton more viral hits that didn't go number one

[Gary]

This chart changed from a singles chart to a songs chart 20 years ago

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Sept 14, 2021 5:46:15 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Billboard is getting to be a joke! Change the chart formula! When a big named artist releases a new album, the song that's released as a single should be the only song to be allowed to chart at that time. 10 songs in the top 10 by the same artist is ridiculous.

Only if you can define what a single is that doesn’t only apply to the 1960s through to the 1990s.

[WolfSpear]

It measures what it’s supposed to measure: popularity.

I don’t really see the hype behind BTS, but they earned their 10 weeks. Me personally, I’ve been over them since “Dynamite” but I know their fan base will continue to enjoy them…

[rimetm]

Sept 14, 2021 5:46:15 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Billboard is getting to be a joke! Change the chart formula! When a big named artist releases a new album, the song that's released as a single should be the only song to be allowed to chart at that time. 10 songs in the top 10 by the same artist is ridiculous.

So, by your standards, Need to Know, despite catching up on official radio single You Right, doesn't belong on the chart? Reconciling what is a single in the modern era is a fool's errand, and trying to introduce a clamp will inevitably lead to several proper hits being snubbed and the chart becoming a joke like it was in the 90s.

[leonagwen]

Sept 14, 2021 7:15:38 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Sept 14, 2021 5:46:15 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Billboard is getting to be a joke! Change the chart formula! When a big named artist releases a new album, the song that's released as a single should be the only song to be allowed to chart at that time. 10 songs in the top 10 by the same artist is ridiculous.

Only if you can define what a single is that doesn’t only apply to the 1960s through to the 1990s.

A song that is sent to radio is a single.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Sept 14, 2021 7:40:58 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Sept 14, 2021 7:15:38 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Only if you can define what a single is that doesn’t only apply to the 1960s through to the 1990s.

A song that is sent to radio is a single.

Why only radio? What if a song isn’t “sent” to radio and radio plays it on their own? Sent by whom? What about viral singles? Promo singles? Video singles? Songs by country women that radio doesn’t play? Are they are ineligible?

[rimetm]

Sept 14, 2021 7:40:58 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Sept 14, 2021 7:15:38 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Only if you can define what a single is that doesn’t only apply to the 1960s through to the 1990s.

A song that is sent to radio is a single.

Need to Know was sent to Rhythmic on August 31. That's the tracking week for the September 11 chart. You believe its #14 peak is illegitimate and it should've debuted last week at #18 (chucking the Kanye songs other than Hurricane)? You're not thinking about the implications of your proposal, despite specifying it further.