Jesy Nelson Discussion

[Ty]

Jesy Nelson, ex-member of the British girlgroup Little Mix, has been signed as a solo artist by Polydor Records/Universal. Her debut single "Boyz" featuring Nicki Minaj was released on October 8, 2021. The song interpolates "Bad Boys For Life," a 2001 hit by Diddy, who also made a cameo in its accompanying music video.



The release has been met with mixed to negative reactions.

[adamalterlago]

ummm i actually like this. Nicki verse is fire. IMO better than most of the Little Mix releases.

[Wave.]

I know she got all the other shit going on, but ion know... she ate it up🤧

[spiritboy]

What do you guys think about "blackfishing" backlash? I can't comment on them since i'm not a POC but your opinions would be welcome, whether the accusations are valid or are people reaching?

[adamalterlago]

As a person of color, I find it a bit ridic. What is she doing differently that a shit ton of other artists and celebs are doing like Bieber, Kim K, I can go on and on.

[SHOOTER]

Personally, when I think of blackfishing, I think of intentionally altering appearances and playing with racial ambiguity to be deceptive (or just flat-out lying about it); think Rachel Dolezal or Jessica Krug. Now if this is how she presented herself day one and she tried to be coy about her race/ethnicity, then it’s a problem. But even someone who just heard of her today can quickly find out she’s a white British woman. I’d say it’s cultural appropriation at worst and she’s not the first nor last white Pop girlie to utilize tenets of Black culture in hopes of maximizing their success. I’m also aware of other faux pas she’s been called out for in the past but, ultimately, I think there’s better ways to expend energy than protesting Jesy Nelson’s career.

[Ty]

[Au$tin]

Oct 9, 2021 11:49:53 GMT -5 adamalterlago said:

As a person of color, I find it a bit ridic. What is she doing differently that a s**t ton of other artists and celebs are doing like Bieber, Kim K, I can go on and on.

...but you criticize Lorde for being white as fuck


Make it make sense.

[adamalterlago]

Oct 10, 2021 21:57:56 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Oct 9, 2021 11:49:53 GMT -5 adamalterlago said:

As a person of color, I find it a bit ridic. What is she doing differently that a s**t ton of other artists and celebs are doing like Bieber, Kim K, I can go on and on.

...but you criticize Lorde for being white as f**k


Make it make sense.

Man, you’re still hurt about that Lorde comment. Good lawd.
I said Lordes visuals, specifically Solar Power, were white as f which they are. There isn’t any diversity within the dancers in the music video. I can count at least four dancers of different ethnic backgrounds in Jesy’s.
These are two different convos hun.

[SHOOTER]

In other news, the rest of LM unfollowed her on social media.

[Dammn Baby]

Oct 11, 2021 2:45:31 GMT -5 SHOOTER said:

In other news, the rest of LM unfollowed her on social media.

Leigh-Anne said she blocked them.

[SHOOTER]

Oct 11, 2021 9:12:44 GMT -5 Dammn Baby said:

Oct 11, 2021 2:45:31 GMT -5 SHOOTER said:

In other news, the rest of LM unfollowed her on social media.

Leigh-Anne said she blocked them.

Well! I guess telling the press she doesn't talk to them anymore wasn't enough.

[Ty]

This is reminding me more and more of when Camila Cabello left 5H...For them, Camila's solo success seems to have played a big part in their disbandment. I wonder if all the attention Jesy's getting right now would eventually catalyze something similar for Little Mix.

[Mike]

Oh my.

[Night Senses]

Grand opening, grand closing.

[Choco]

Thank god I don't like the song. She's too much of a mess right now and I'm fine not supporting her.

She was made aware during Sweet Melody yet she's still acting like that? Mess. The whole UK baddie thing is forced. And Nicki... who cares about her opinion.

[Ling-Ling]

LMAO at her being darker than Nicki Minaj in those vids.

I get that people like to tan. But the hair, the darkened skin tone, the makeup, the fashion, the song and music video... it all kinda culminates into something. If I didn't know who she was, I would honestly think she was at the very least biracial. An yeah, white artists have been dabbling in black sounds, fashions, etc. in an attempt to be "edgier" since the dawn of time. But this goes way beyond that IMO.

She's certainly not the first to do it and she won't be the last. But it's such a glaring case, I can see why it's getting attention.

[Active Aggressive]

LOL of course the Queen of Tone-Deaf will come to her defense. No surprise there.

[Wave.]

adamalterlago meant to quote you, but I agree with what you said. I'll keep a eye on her.

Found the full live cause I know ppl love a clip instead of the whole thing.

http://instagram.com/p/CU6X5fjLios

[kimberly]

mess. the girls remain unbothered while all Jesy & Nicki wanna whine about is Little Mix. 💀

[Wave.]

So Jesy was being messy in Little Mix? Ion know thier history. There's obviously some things we don't know about. I wanna give this girly a shot.

[Active Aggressive]

If Little Minx couldn't make it in the US, one of their rejects certainly won't, so this will all blow over soon enough.

[spiritboy]

Nicki should remain silent, no need to be dragged into unnecessary drama. She already has many controversies around her.

As for Jesy, she deserves all the hate she gets. She could've parted ways with the girls in an amicable way and still got their and LM fans' support. She has been called out blackfishing before and instead of learning something from it, she chose to remain ignorant.

[Ty]

[spiritboy]

Good debut considering the controversy.

[bieberfever]

This is a good debut despite the controversy. I think she needs to head-on address the controversy and lay off the cultural appropriation. I get she wanted to recreate Bad Boyz 4 Life but it lacked originality or her own twist.

[Taylor.]

Despite the controversy? If anything, the controversy helped.

I'm not familiar with UK charts, how did it debut so high when it was out of the top 10/20 on Spotify for most of the week? Was it that strong on Apple Music (currently #10)? Digital sales? YouTube?

[think pink.]

Oct 15, 2021 17:03:41 GMT -5 Taylor. said:

Despite the controversy? If anything, the controversy helped.

I'm not familiar with UK charts, how did it debut so high when it was out of the top 10/20 on Spotify for most of the week? Digital sales? YouTube?

It’s been in the top 10 on Apple UK.

[Choco]

It also started alright on Spotify before cratering after a couple days. Between Adele and Ed Sheeran it's probably doomed in the next couple weeks.

[Ty]

Down to #18 in UK on its second week.