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Post by ontopofthis on Nov 1, 2021 14:08:04 GMT -5
Blame no one but yourselves for that. When y'all began encouraging stans to game the charts, it was a wrap Y'all? Who's y'all? Whoever compiles those charts on Twitter |
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Post by mylo on Nov 1, 2021 14:09:48 GMT -5
Whoever compiles those charts on Twitter But forgive me if I'm wrong, wasn't Winston the only one who did this? |
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Nov 1, 2021 14:16:23 GMT -5
I don't think any of us here support chart manipulation
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Post by joshtheking on Nov 1, 2021 14:18:16 GMT -5
Dance in the Dark > Monster I think Dance In The Dark is the better song but I think Monster works better for Halloween, DITD could work as well though |
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Post by gikem on Nov 1, 2021 14:42:20 GMT -5
At this point, I just might make the shift to Spotify and the Mediabase radio charts alone, especially with the 2021 tracking year winding down. If Billboard doesn’t want to be transparent about how they calculate their charts, I have no choice but to consult sources that actually will as long as they’re still around.
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 1, 2021 14:49:34 GMT -5
Hold up. Monster Mash is #1 on Spotify?! This is the first time a Halloween song has gotten to #1 on a streaming platform, right? Hell, I don't even recall Halloween songs ever hitting the top ten on a streaming platform before.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Nov 1, 2021 14:51:50 GMT -5
Blame no one but yourselves for that. When they began encouraging stans to game the charts, it was a wrap You’re 100% right, but drem is going to say that you are gaslighting. lmao the vast majority of pulse users are VERY against chart manipulation, where tf are you getting this info |
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Post by kimberly on Nov 1, 2021 15:06:02 GMT -5
Hold up. Monster Mash is #1 on Spotify?! This is the first time a Halloween song has gotten to #1 on a streaming platform, right? Hell, I don't even recall Halloween songs ever hitting the top ten on a streaming platform before. I think "Thriller" hit #1 on Apple Music yesterday, so they did it at the same time. "Thriller" reached No. 9 on Spotify last year, with 4 Ariana Grande songs ahead of it. In 2019, "Monster Mash" was #13 and "Thriller" was #15. So this isn't exactly out of the blue, it's been a long time coming. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 1, 2021 15:12:42 GMT -5
You’re 100% right, but drem is going to say that you are gaslighting. lmao the vast majority of pulse users are VERY against chart manipulation, where tf are you getting this info Most of you were okay and did nothing when Butter stole a week at #1 from Stay’s prime. That week, Butter was the biggest loser on radio and almost left the Top 100 on radio, while Stay was Top 5 on all 3 metrics. |
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Post by Groovy on Nov 1, 2021 15:15:53 GMT -5
lmao the vast majority of pulse users are VERY against chart manipulation, where tf are you getting this info Most of you were okay and did nothing when Butter stole a week at #1 from Stay’s prime. That week, Butter was the biggest loser on radio and almost left the Top 100 on radio, while Stay was Top 5 on all 3 metrics. Who was okay with this? |
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Post by Groovy on Nov 1, 2021 15:23:44 GMT -5
I don't think anyone posted this yet but Adele's tracklist is out. There's a Target bonus with three songs including Adele doing Easy on Me with Chris Stapleton.
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 1, 2021 15:38:26 GMT -5
"did nothing" as if any of us have the power to do anything to the Hot 100 đź’€
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Post by rosalina4812 on Nov 1, 2021 15:43:46 GMT -5
Most of you were okay and did nothing when Butter stole a week at #1 from Stay’s prime. That week, Butter was the biggest loser on radio and almost left the Top 100 on radio, while Stay was Top 5 on all 3 metrics. Who was okay with this? Of course the troll is making revisionist history while the 40+ page threads are easily searchable |
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Post by dovahduck on Nov 1, 2021 15:47:52 GMT -5
"did nothing" as if any of us have the power to do anything to the Hot 100 đź’€ My dad actually owns Billboard, I'm sorry guys for not being able to doing anything. He just won't listen. |
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Post by lazer on Nov 1, 2021 15:50:56 GMT -5
Me and others have been spending some time CRITICIZING about Butter’s “reign” at #1 for many weeks lmao.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Nov 1, 2021 15:55:15 GMT -5
Of course the troll is making revisionist history while the 40+ page threads are easily searchable If they're easily searchable then quote them, girl!!! fucking hell |
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Nov 1, 2021 15:57:10 GMT -5
the way Good 4 U was robbed of its 10 weeks at #1 was disgusting
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 1, 2021 16:01:12 GMT -5
the way Good 4 U was robbed of its 10 weeks at #1 was disgusting It was robbed of 7 maybe 8, not 10. It would have not been an 11-week #1. Stay and/or IB would have been #1 past Week 10. |
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Post by lurker2 on Nov 1, 2021 16:07:17 GMT -5
Iirc, Butter's first eight weeks + PTD would go to G4U, Butter's 9th to IB, and Butter's 10th + MU to Stay. Also IB's week would go to Stay.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 1, 2021 16:19:09 GMT -5
Iirc, Butter's first eight weeks + PTD would go to G4U, Butter's 9th to IB, and Butter's 10th + MU to Stay. Also IB's week would go to Stay. If we go by the RS chart, G4u would have been #1 the first 7 weeks of Butter, but would have lost out to Stay on PTD’s week at #1 and Butter’s 8th week at #1. The races were close those weeks, and G4u had already fallen below 300 on Butter’s 8th week. I’ll be nice, though, and give you one of those weeks. That puts G4u at 9 weeks. G4u was done by Butter’s 9th week - IB and Stay were ahead at that point. |
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Post by rimetm on Nov 1, 2021 16:27:10 GMT -5
Iirc, Butter's first eight weeks + PTD would go to G4U, Butter's 9th to IB, and Butter's 10th + MU to Stay. Also IB's week would go to Stay. If we go by the RS chart, G4u would have been #1 the first 7 weeks of Butter, but would have lost out to Stay on PTD’s week at #1 and Butter’s 8th week at #1. The races were close those weeks, and G4u had already fallen below 300 on Butter’s 8th week. I’ll be nice, though, and give you one of those weeks. That puts G4u at 9 weeks. G4u was done by Butter’s 9th week - IB and Stay were ahead at that point. What does what the RS chart said matter in this line of conversation? The point you were making was about the Hot 100 being manipulated, not the Hot 100 formula being wrong. On the July 24th chart (Permission to Dance's week at #1), Good 4 U was the #2, ahead of Stay's #3 debut. On the July 31st chart (where Butter returned for an 8th week atop), Good 4 U bulleted at #2 while Stay slid behind Levitating for the #4 spot. Thus it gets both of those weeks if mass sales are countered, not just 1, you're not the arbiter that gets to "be nice" because that's not how this line of discussion was framed. |
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Post by 85la on Nov 1, 2021 16:32:43 GMT -5
Dance in the Dark > Monster I think Dance In The Dark is the better song but I think Monster works better for Halloween, DITD could work as well though I mean pretty much that whole album could be played for Halloween because that whole vide permeates most of the tracks. |
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Post by kindofbiased on Nov 1, 2021 16:37:38 GMT -5
At the end of the day these industry supported charts are made for industry people and it really seems like they're trying to make independent chart reporting and discussion as hard for people as possible. I'm sure it's for absolutely no shady reasons whatsoever tho! Blame no one but yourselves for that. When y'all began encouraging stans to game the charts, it was a wrap I am famously pro chart manipulation, they call me Chart Manipulator Kayla |
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Post by GP on Nov 1, 2021 16:43:20 GMT -5
I don't know what's more tragic, Oh Na Na leaving the top200 WW in its second day while its top20 on TTH or no one even noticing
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Post by gikem on Nov 1, 2021 16:47:36 GMT -5
I'm sure we will still see a fair bit of "chart manipulation" for the foreseeable future even despite AlphaData no longer being public. After all, artists' teams are still well within their right to release multiple versions and let audiences eat them all up, and I'm pretty sure that was happening well before Hot 100 predictors became a widespread thing.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 1, 2021 16:59:03 GMT -5
If we go by the RS chart, G4u would have been #1 the first 7 weeks of Butter, but would have lost out to Stay on PTD’s week at #1 and Butter’s 8th week at #1. The races were close those weeks, and G4u had already fallen below 300 on Butter’s 8th week. I’ll be nice, though, and give you one of those weeks. That puts G4u at 9 weeks. G4u was done by Butter’s 9th week - IB and Stay were ahead at that point. What does what the RS chart said matter in this line of conversation? The point you were making was about the Hot 100 being manipulated, not the Hot 100 formula being wrong. On the July 24th chart (Permission to Dance's week at #1), Good 4 U was the #2, ahead of Stay's #3 debut. On the July 31st chart (where Butter returned for an 8th week atop), Good 4 U bulleted at #2 while Stay slid behind Levitating for the #4 spot. Thus it gets both of those weeks if mass sales are countered, not just 1, you're not the arbiter that gets to "be nice" because that's not how this line of discussion was framed. All that matters is that in the end, you cannot change the fact that G4u was not #1 on either the Hot 100 or RS charts on the weeks of 7/24 and 7/31/2021. |
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Post by Gary on Nov 1, 2021 17:13:22 GMT -5
Rolling Stone chart is irrelevant
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Post by aussie1 on Nov 1, 2021 18:26:35 GMT -5
This silk sonic album rollout has been terrible.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 1, 2021 18:40:58 GMT -5
The hype has completely disappeared.
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