Katy Perry – “143” coming to slay/ "The LIFETIMES Tour"

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jun 21, 2024 6:05:34 GMT -5 austin said:

Jun 20, 2024 18:52:30 GMT -5 ƒreakshow said:

I keep waiting for an "insider" or someone on her team to deny the Ava Max leftover/Dr. Luke involvement rumors but none of that is happening...so it must really be true.

Kind of tough to deny an exclusive Rolling Stone article they paid for to announce the collab. It’s real lol

What do you mean paid for?

[austin]

Jun 23, 2024 7:41:52 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Jun 21, 2024 6:05:34 GMT -5 austin said:

Kind of tough to deny an exclusive Rolling Stone article they paid for to announce the collab. It’s real lol

What do you mean paid for?

I guess instead of paid for, I meant they gave Rolling Stone the scoop.

[Dylan :)]

It's interesting how wrong people were when California Gurls leaked

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

definitely not playing this era.

[Caviar]

Werq

[Eloqueen™]

Jun 23, 2024 14:36:03 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

It's interesting how wrong people were when California Gurls leaked

That's crazy because "California Girls" always seemed so obvious (of a hit) and radio-ready to me. lol

[avamaxstan]

Jun 23, 2024 19:09:24 GMT -5 Eloqueen™ said:

Jun 23, 2024 14:36:03 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

It's interesting how wrong people were when California Gurls leaked

That's crazy because "California Girls" always seemed so obvious (of a hit) and radio-ready to me. lol

The leaked demo was LQ and did not sound the same.

[Dylan :)]

Other than the mastering and bridge instrumental, they basically sound the same

[wjr15]

[avamaxstan]

[Eloqueen™]

So her own team did in fact try to get her to skip the collaboration. Yeah, it is disappointing. First "Bon Appetit" during the "purposeful pop" era and now a collab with an accused sex offender with a female empowerment anthem. What is she thinking in that nogin of hers. lol

[neogale]

Jun 25, 2024 13:43:26 GMT -5 Eloqueen™ said:

So her own team did in fact try to get her to skip the collaboration. Yeah, it is disappointing. First "Bon Appetit" during the "purposeful pop" era and now a collab with an accused sex offender with a female empowerment anthem. What is she thinking in that nogin of hers. lol

What happened with Bon Appetit?

[Eloqueen™]

Jun 25, 2024 13:51:46 GMT -5 neogale said:

Jun 25, 2024 13:43:26 GMT -5 Eloqueen™ said:

So her own team did in fact try to get her to skip the collaboration. Yeah, it is disappointing. First "Bon Appetit" during the "purposeful pop" era and now a collab with an accused sex offender with a female empowerment anthem. What is she thinking in that nogin of hers. lol

What happened with Bon Appetit?

I mean nothing I suppose, I was just commenting on how contradictory releasing "Bon Appetit" was after announcing she'd be releasing music with substance and purpose. lol

I'm still perched for this album though! I know it is gonna have some pure glossy pop bangers on it, even if I'm not crazy about "Woman's World" so far.

[Active Aggressive]

The Daily Mail is one of the worst tabloids (I actually know a writer for them, LOL) so I would take anything they "report" with a grain of salt.

[SoMuchToSay]

Whether her team warned her or not (assuming they likely did), it's a TERRIBLE look. The fact that she has called Kesha a friend in the past, but then goes and works with her alleged rapist is insane. Like WTF, how did she think people would react? Luke isn't likely bringing anything to the table that Max and Cirkut couldn't duplicate. It sucks because it's already taken so much away from the song and immediately rubbed people the wrong way. Furthermore I find myself pressed to even support it no matter how good it is, since I've been a longtime fan of both Katy and Kesha.

[kmbgs]

Personally I am happy to move on from the Kesha/DL issues given that litigation settled and I think we need to get some BOPS from Katy and she definitely can't do it without him sorry!

[SPRΞΞ]

From the live

- very Pop-dance album
- The album is "fun. party. we're going up-up-up"
- Woman's World is not the album title
- No slow songs

[bat1990]

Jun 25, 2024 16:21:07 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

From the live

- very Pop-dance album
- The album is "fun. party. we're going up-up-up"
- Woman's World is not the album title
- No slow songs

Good, she has enough with Wide Awake, Thinking of You, Save as Draft, Into Me You See, Never Worn White, Not Like The Movies, and Miss You More,

[SPRΞΞ]

someone from the Paris listening party said if you love Walking on Air, you'll LOVE the album.

[Active Aggressive]

Then, I guess I will be...just OK with the album? LOL.

[Eloqueen™]

Jun 25, 2024 17:02:10 GMT -5 bat1990 said:

Jun 25, 2024 16:21:07 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

From the live

- very Pop-dance album
- The album is "fun. party. we're going up-up-up"
- Woman's World is not the album title
- No slow songs

Good, she has enough with Wide Awake, Thinking of You, Save as Draft, Into Me You See, Never Worn White, Not Like The Movies, and Miss You More,

Ballads are not Katy's strong suit whatsoever so I'm more than fine with that! lol Bring the smashes (Dr. Luke collabs aside).

[kmbgs]

Jun 25, 2024 19:13:04 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

someone from the Paris listening party said if you love Walking on Air, you'll LOVE the album.

FINALLY MY TIME

[SPRΞΞ]

I’m excited to have a good gym playlist. Maybe Gaga’s will be all dance too like Chromatica. That was a good gym playlist as well.

I’m very excited, flop or not!

[surfy]

Jun 25, 2024 13:56:31 GMT -5 Eloqueen™ said:

Jun 25, 2024 13:51:46 GMT -5 neogale said:

What happened with Bon Appetit?

I mean nothing I suppose, I was just commenting on how contradictory releasing "Bon Appetit" was after announcing she'd be releasing music with substance and purpose. lol

I'm still perched for this album though! I know it is gonna have some pure glossy pop bangers on it, even if I'm not crazy about "Woman's World" so far.

well, she did side with Migos after they refused to perform with the drag queens she hired, and they fired the drag queens at the venue (SNL if i remember correctly?)

[wavey.✨️]

Jun 25, 2024 21:28:01 GMT -5 surfy said:

Jun 25, 2024 13:56:31 GMT -5 Eloqueen™ said:

I mean nothing I suppose, I was just commenting on how contradictory releasing "Bon Appetit" was after announcing she'd be releasing music with substance and purpose. lol

I'm still perched for this album though! I know it is gonna have some pure glossy pop bangers on it, even if I'm not crazy about "Woman's World" so far.

well, she did side with Migos after they refused to perform with the drag queens she hired, and they fired the drag queens at the venue (SNL if i remember correctly?)

I think the drag queens were still there but Migos were at a separate table(it was a dinner themed performance if I recall).

[iHype.]

I’m sorry but I am pretty confused on why Katy is being demanded to be such an ally for Kesha?

Specifically when it comes to the Luke case a key thing people gloss over is that Kesha went around telling people that Katy was also raped by Dr. Luke which was completely untrue and she denied.

At that point it’s pretty reasonable she distanced herself from the case period, didn’t take any sides, and just waited for everything to be handled. However afterward when the allegations were dismissed AND Kesha lied about Katy being falsely raped, why is it now expected that Katy *owes Kesha* some type of allegiance? After she went around telling people that she was falsely raped?

Imagine if someone went around telling people you were falsely raped then you are also gaslit into siding with the rest of their accusations or you’re a bad person.

Specifically knowing what Katy went through uniquely — is it ridiculous that she feels hesitant towards Kesha, maybe questions her in general, and does not feel it’s right to permanently cut off people in allegiance/favor of her? Regardless of Kesha/Luke, I think everyone seemingly glosses over the fact Katy was put in a very offputting situation herself and how ridiculous it must feel to constantly be shamed for not supporting someone who went around spreading damaging things about you for their own personal case.

[Eloqueen™]

Jun 25, 2024 23:01:32 GMT -5 iHype. said:

I’m sorry but I am pretty confused on why Katy is being demanded to be such an ally for Kesha?

Specifically when it comes to the Luke case a key thing people gloss over is that Kesha went around telling people that Katy was also raped by Dr. Luke which was completely untrue and she denied.

At that point it’s pretty reasonable she distanced herself from the case period, didn’t take any sides, and just waited for everything to be handled. However afterward when the allegations were dismissed AND Kesha lied about Katy being falsely raped, why is it now expected that Katy *owes Kesha* some type of allegiance? After she went around telling people that she was falsely raped?

Imagine if someone went around telling people you were falsely raped then you are also gaslit into siding with the rest of their accusations or you’re a bad person.

Specifically knowing what Katy went through uniquely — is it ridiculous that she feels hesitant towards Kesha, maybe questions her in general, and does not feel it’s right to permanently cut off people in allegiance/favor of her? Regardless of Kesha/Luke, I think everyone seemingly glosses over the fact Katy was put in a very offputting situation herself and how ridiculous it must feel to constantly be shamed for not supporting someone who went around spreading damaging things about you for their own personal case.

Yeah I'm pretty sure most aren't criticizing Katy for not having an "allegiance" to Kesha. It's about the principle, not the people involved.

[iHype.]

Jun 26, 2024 1:47:05 GMT -5 Eloqueen™ said:

Jun 25, 2024 23:01:32 GMT -5 iHype. said:

I’m sorry but I am pretty confused on why Katy is being demanded to be such an ally for Kesha?

Specifically when it comes to the Luke case a key thing people gloss over is that Kesha went around telling people that Katy was also raped by Dr. Luke which was completely untrue and she denied.

At that point it’s pretty reasonable she distanced herself from the case period, didn’t take any sides, and just waited for everything to be handled. However afterward when the allegations were dismissed AND Kesha lied about Katy being falsely raped, why is it now expected that Katy *owes Kesha* some type of allegiance? After she went around telling people that she was falsely raped?

Imagine if someone went around telling people you were falsely raped then you are also gaslit into siding with the rest of their accusations or you’re a bad person.

Specifically knowing what Katy went through uniquely — is it ridiculous that she feels hesitant towards Kesha, maybe questions her in general, and does not feel it’s right to permanently cut off people in allegiance/favor of her? Regardless of Kesha/Luke, I think everyone seemingly glosses over the fact Katy was put in a very offputting situation herself and how ridiculous it must feel to constantly be shamed for not supporting someone who went around spreading damaging things about you for their own personal case.

Yeah I'm pretty sure most aren't criticizing Katy for not having an "allegiance" to Kesha. It's about the principle, not the people involved.

And again what is the principle? When Katy is uniquely someone who was victim of proven false accusations being spread by Kesha.

Kesha herself also never issued any apology, retraction, or otherwise tried to reach out to Katy to our knowledge after going around and spreading lies on her being sexually assaulted. So why is she seemingly not having to abide by any principles with Katy, but Katy is expected to in return?..

[Eloqueen™]

Jun 26, 2024 2:00:57 GMT -5 iHype. said:

And again what is the principle? When Katy is uniquely someone who was victim of proven false accusations being spread by Kesha.

Kesha herself also never issued any apology, retraction, or otherwise tried to reach out to Katy to our knowledge after going around and spreading lies on her being sexually assaulted. So why is she seemingly not having to abide by any principles with Katy, but Katy is expected to in return?..

Let's not be disingenuous here. I think you know very well what principle I am referencing. Let's not act shocked or surprised people take issue with Katy, or any artist for that matter, working with an accused rapist, particularly given we all know the sensitive climate we're living in now where merely supporting someone with what one believes is a generally unpopular opinion could get side-eyed. Kesha was wrong to publicly speak on Katy's experience with Dr. Luke as it wasn't her place (though personally I don't feel she was lying, speaking untruths with the intention of doing so, just Katy maybe didn't want said information publicly announced or Kesha was misinformed etc). Not everyone interpreted nor frames what Kesha had to say about Katy in the intentionally malicious way you do. And again, you keep framing this as a Katy vs Kesha thing, when it's not. It's an issue with Katy and who she aligns herself with in reflection of her character and morality independent of Kesha, especially as Katy presents a female empowerment anthem as the lead for her new album. Kesha herself could have been replaced by any other female and people would still feel the same. Her choosing to work with him certainly wouldn't gain her any points on the pro-woman front and it plays as hypocritical given her stance as a feminist, their personal issues aside. It's not complicated. Personally I'm shocked she would choose to work with him because it's detrimental to her own image and career. Whatever her personal feelings for Kesha, the optics are terrible.

[dbhmr]

Also, I might be remembering wrong, but the Kesha accusation about Katy was in a private text between Kesha and Lady Gaga that...Dr. Luke subpoenaed and therefore made public record, right?

Anyway, can't believe people are pretending to be so obtuse that they can't see why rejoining with Luke for her comeback single is a terrible idea for someone who wants a hit in 2024.