Katy Perry – “143” coming to slay/ "The LIFETIMES Tour"

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 12:38:08 GMT -5 Choco said:

Tbh I'm kinda glad this tanked due to the Luke association.

I wouldn't go as far to say I am glad this tanked, but I do feel like it is owed due to her own decisions and its lack of quality.

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

Sept 21, 2024 12:31:37 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:29:20 GMT -5 HEADOFTHEPACK said:

Yeah this is the annoying thing, like we're all somehow hoping she fails - maybe we're just disappointed? Know what would have been really awesome? A throwback KP album full of amazing pop songs. Not what we got.

This is the way sensitive stans always operate. God forbid someone have valid criticisms or critiques and doesn't treat this open forum like a fansite or they risk being dismissed or labeled a "hater", "jealous" etc. It's such an incredibly predictable immature mentality to have. lol I've had this accused about me with Mariah, Katy, even Taylor! lol Someone even tried to have me banned for having criticisms of their fav. It's crazy. There are plenty of artists I genuinely don't like (such as Drake), but you won't see me in their comment sections or threads, because I don't waste my time on artists I don't like.

First of all since you alluded to me without saying my name let me clear things up. I didn't care if you criticized Mariah I cared because you were obtuse, condescending, insulting people and have a certain personality that is grating, lecturing with long essay's twisting people words and then playing victim and sending nasty dms. You monopolize threads and making it dreadful and you're a instigator and baiting people into arguments and toxic.

I didnt like narratives you spun about me. I'm not an angel,I atleast fair and real and admit my faults which you never can but I really this post is EXACTLY why I react

And cue now go play the victim I'm ignoring your reply

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 12:41:10 GMT -5 Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:31:37 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

This is the way sensitive stans always operate. God forbid someone have valid criticisms or critiques and doesn't treat this open forum like a fansite or they risk being dismissed or labeled a "hater", "jealous" etc. It's such an incredibly predictable immature mentality to have. lol I've had this accused about me with Mariah, Katy, even Taylor! lol Someone even tried to have me banned for having criticisms of their fav. It's crazy. There are plenty of artists I genuinely don't like (such as Drake), but you won't see me in their comment sections or threads, because I don't waste my time on artists I don't like.

First of all since you alluded to me without saying my name let me clear things up. I didn't care if you criticized Mariah I cared because you were obtuse, condescending, insulting people and have a certain personality that is grating, lecturing with long essay's twisting people words and then playing victim and sending nasty dms. You monopolize threads and making it dreadful and you're a instigator and baiting people into arguments and toxic.

I didnt like narratives you spun about me. I'm not angel,I atleast fair and real and admit my faults which you never can but I really this post is EXACTLY why I react

And cue now go play the victim I'm ignoring your reply

What? I didn't even have you in mind! lol I didn't even see your post until I was tagged as I have you blocked. lol That's crazy. Even more crazy that you're holding onto all this animosity when I haven't even thought of you nor cared enough to be upset with you. lol

[wavey.]

Looking forward to a tour. RockinRio looked awesome for her. And the pandemic really fcked up SMILE era. The crowd went crazy for "Teary Eyes".

[Choco]

I mean Katy's still fabulous for a throwback!

(Really wish she never said that).

[wjr15]

Sept 21, 2024 12:41:10 GMT -5 Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:31:37 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

This is the way sensitive stans always operate. God forbid someone have valid criticisms or critiques and doesn't treat this open forum like a fansite or they risk being dismissed or labeled a "hater", "jealous" etc. It's such an incredibly predictable immature mentality to have. lol I've had this accused about me with Mariah, Katy, even Taylor! lol Someone even tried to have me banned for having criticisms of their fav. It's crazy. There are plenty of artists I genuinely don't like (such as Drake), but you won't see me in their comment sections or threads, because I don't waste my time on artists I don't like.

First of all since you alluded to me without saying my name let me clear things up. I didn't care if you criticized Mariah I cared because you were obtuse, condescending, insulting people and have a certain personality that is grating, lecturing with long essay's twisting people words and then playing victim and sending nasty dms. You monopolize threads and making it dreadful and you're a instigator and baiting people into arguments and toxic.

I didnt like narratives you spun about me. I'm not angel,I atleast fair and real and admit my faults which you never can but I really this post is EXACTLY why I react

And cue now go play the victim I'm ignoring your reply

Its rich that the most blind loyalty Swiftie on this board is going after Lambs and KatyCats for the exact behavior they show with Taylor.

[holdmecloser255]

It is sad to watch one of the pop idols who have defined my childhood and teenage years fall so hard. It is safe to say that 143 is a coup de grâce to her career in music. She will never recover from such a complete failure. She might not even release another album ever again (not sure about the terms of her contract). At least, she was smart to sell her catalog rights for $225 million last year. Katy is definitely set for life, so she can safely retire now. I guess that she should have retired after Prism. Witness tarnished her image of an invinsible hitmaker. She should have opted for a Rihanna-esque retirement instead of releasing several flop albums that have destroyed her brand.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 12:43:46 GMT -5 wjr15 said:

Its rich that the most blind loyalty Swiftie on this board is going after Lambs and KatyCats for the exact behavior they show with Taylor.

It's funny that a vague comment on the behavior of stans triggered you two specifically. Well, hit dogs will holler I suppose.

First of all, show me an example of ONE single comment of mine where I've came after anyone for merely criticizing Taylor. I'll wait. I myself have criticized Taylor on this forum many times, most of which you unironically blind stans are in fact blind to and never acknowledge in your "Taylor Stan" accusations. Disagreeing with someone's opinion or assertion is just fine and EVERYONE partakes in this on this forum. I haven't posted on this forum for 15 years for the approval of random strangers so whether or not you or anyone else likes or "approves" of the way I articulate myself is neither here nor there. I am who I am. You don't like it? There's a block button for a reason, use it. I personally find this random ass personal attack on me from various random members HILARIOUS and telling. Good to know I am doing laps in minds honey. Y'all are INVESTED. Continue as you were.

[wavey.]

She can release as much as she wants. Pretty sure shes not worried about commercial success since WITNESS(Especially after selling her publishing).Shes established, what does she have to prove? The album can be disappointing to some, others enjoy it. It is what it is.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 12:52:23 GMT -5 wavey. said:

She can release as much as she wants. Pretty sure shes not worried about commercial success since WITNESS[/b

You've kept saying this, but her own words contradict this sentiment. She was speaking on having one of the "biggest hits of her career" at the start of this era and she went back to the drawing board with an accused sexual predator for the sole purpose of trying to retrigger past success. Like, it's very obvious she has wanted to be successful with this project?

[Nick]

Anyway…..I’m not expecting Katy to shock us like Sabrina did, but hoping the sales are decent for her at this stage of her career. Still enjoy her music more than her contemporaries.

[SPRΞΞ]

yea she can easily continue with droplets and not put out a whole album.

[Dylan :)]

Well, if she doesn’t ever release a full album again, I think Wonder is an amazing end to her album career

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 12:57:45 GMT -5 Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:42:09 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

What? I didn't even have you in mind! lol I didn't even see your post until I was tagged as I have you blocked. lol That's crazy. Even more crazy that you're holding onto all this animosity when I haven't even thought of you nor cared enough to be upset with you. lol

Funny cause you responded in less than 45 seconds. When I block someone they completely disappear and I never respond but clearly you can't help yourself and instead of taking accountability you always choose to be passive aggressive and petty. Girl, nobody afraid of you and nobody will put petty Coco nnnn ssssk.

Keep me on block but whenever I choose to call you out after I hold my tongue for weeks you certainly deserve it. Do better. Nobody feeling you cause if you period point blank facts

Coco I am gonna say this as respectfully as possible.... you're dead to me. Non-existent. Like, truly. I buried you in our last interaction and quite literally haven't thought of you since. YOU were NOT one of the lambs who accused me of not being a Mariah fan at all. I don't even align you with Mariah. You're just demonstrating what you have always been IMO: a bully. Up until you tagged me (note to you, you can't block as in remove people's posts from this forum, it hides them and doesn't notify you unless tagged) in your ranting, raving post Id assumed I hadn't been a thought on your mind either, least of all would I have thought you have been stewing and brewing such annomysity and hatred for me this whole entire time. LMAO Unlike you, I let the past go where it happens. I don't hold onto grudges. But best wishes for you and your mental health. Please don't tag or interact with me again as I asked you not to last time. You were not mentioned in my post and you were never a thought, despite your own grandiose assumptions. Now, kindly, please move on with your life and leave me alone. =) I don't wish to be continuously drawn into interactions with you. In the words of Taylor "Id very much like to be excluded from this narrative". Now unlike what you said before, I will actually not be responding to anything further you have to say.

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

Girl just say you don't like Katy spare us the fraudulent I'm concerned about Katy essays and be REAL for a change. Its boring reading someone with an agenda and being passive aggressive is a just too much. Let them enjoy their thread and go stir up Taylor threads like you do with your fragility

"you're dead to me. Non-existent. Like, truly. I buried you in our last interaction and quite literally haven't thought of you since"

You sound like Donald Trump nnnn ssk

"But best wishes for you and your mental health"

The difference between me a stable human being is that I would never go this low for some pulse BS. I'll shade and speak on what you type but this is low down and exactly why nobody likes you

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 12:59:52 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Well, if she doesn’t ever release a full album again, I think Wonder is an amazing end to her album career

Oh no way she doesn't release more music. She still has gotta have a redemption arc from this album quality-wise!

[Ty]

Maybe kicking a man when he's down is...not cool?

Some of the music critics are just showing their true characters.

We know nothing about what artists go through. I hope this is not going to take a toll on her mental health. She didn't do anything that deserves this level of hate.

[holdmecloser255]

Sept 21, 2024 12:16:08 GMT -5 wjr15 said:

The sharks are out and they smell the blood.

These are mostly Lady Gaga fans in their 30s who still cannot recover from what Katy did to them with "Roar." The fact that Katy had two gigantic hits while Gaga's pop music career was being destroyed has made them permanently bitter no matter how many flops Katy is going to have. Their can certainly gloat as much as they can, but Gaga's career is not exactly thriving either. Sure, she was lucky to hop on a Bruno Mars song that has become a big hit, but she's about to have a $200 million commercial disaster (based on the pre-sale of tickets) and her own solo lead single. Gaga's pop music career was permanently destroyed in 2013, so she had to pivot to jazz, conservative HAC music, acting and just anything to stay afloat. Her only pop album in a decade was a commercial flop that secured a hit only because of streaming giant Ariana. At least, I can appreciate that Katy has never recorded a "country" album. Although, I wanted her to lean more into the pop-rock sound that originally made her famous instead of delivering such a lazy mediocre record.                 

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 13:24:57 GMT -5 holdmecloser255 said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:16:08 GMT -5 wjr15 said:

The sharks are out and they smell the blood.

These are mostly Lady Gaga fans in their 30s who still cannot recover from what Katy did to them with "Roar." The fact that Katy had two gigantic hits while Gaga's pop music career was being destroyed has made them permanently bitter no matter how many flops Katy is going to have. Their can certainly gloat as much as they can, but Gaga's career is not exactly thriving either. Sure, she was lucky to hop on a Bruno Mars song that has become a big hit, but she's about to have a $200 million commercial disaster (based on the pre-sale of tickets) and her own solo lead single. Gaga's pop music career was permanently destroyed in 2013, so she had to pivot to jazz, conservative HAC music, acting and just anything to stay afloat. Her only pop album in a decade was a commercial flop that secured a hit only because of streaming giant Ariana. At least, I can appreciate that Katy has never recorded a "country" album. Although, I wanted her to lean more into the pop-rock sound that originally made her famous instead of delivering such a lazy mediocre record.                 

Lord. There's a Gaga vs Katy fan feud still going from like 12 years ago? 🤣🤣

[wavey.]

Sept 21, 2024 12:54:49 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:52:23 GMT -5 wavey. said:

She can release as much as she wants. Pretty sure shes not worried about commercial success since WITNESS[/b

You've kept saying this, but her own words contradict this sentiment. She was speaking on having one of the "biggest hits of her career" at the start of this era and she went back to the drawing board with an accused sexual predator for the sole purpose of trying to retrigger past success. Like, it's very obvious she has wanted to be successful with this project?

Ok things don't work all the time, there has to be a push regardless of the sound..and it.shows Captiol isnt going to give a push like she used to get. she still seems satisfied🤷🏾

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 13:28:25 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:54:49 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

You've kept saying this, but her own words contradict this sentiment. She was speaking on having one of the "biggest hits of her career" at the start of this era and she went back to the drawing board with an accused sexual predator for the sole purpose of trying to retrigger past success. Like, it's very obvious she has wanted to be successful with this project?

Ok things don't work all the time, she still seems satisfied🤷🏾

Oh yeah she seems in good spirits thankfully, at least from the Rock In Rio concert I watched last night.

[schnetzka]

Even if the album isn't the best (yes, working with Dr. Luke was wrong and yes, the album is pretty generic), all of those people saying that they doubt she'll ever release an album again don't really make sense to me. This is Katy's life and she's not going to let anything stop that even if her music isn't doing as well as it used to. Having said that, people say they love a redemption arc but in reality, people enjoy seeing others fail more. Let's just hope in the future Katy realizes her wrongs with this era.

[Nick]

Omg at the gays always coming for other female artists. This is a Katy thread, let’s not do that.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Random AF, but is Katy still good friends with Nicki or what happened with that?

[shakemaki]

I do think we should move on from blaming association with you know who for all the failing here. These songs are simply flops across the board, it literally wouldn’t matter whose name was attached.

[shakemaki]

Sept 21, 2024 3:40:58 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Sept 21, 2024 1:56:41 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

I’m kinda on board with the absurdly low meta at this point? This is just getting worse for me with repeated listens. I have been saying since WW came out I think AI was heavily involved to make it, and hearing the whole album I’m more convinced than ever now.

A lot of this sounds like an obsessed Katy Cat got bored waiting for new music from her and fired up the AI software. I’m pretty sure I think Lifetimes is the “highlight” of the album, and I maintain it’s an unfinished demo… back to listening to 365 for me, which is what a “dance pop” Katy Perry album should have been.

Even if you think it’s beyond awful, the worst album of the year when this garbage exists?

As some already mentioned, I’ll at least give credit to Camilla for it sounding like she tried to do something interesting with that one (and mostly failed). 143 songs legit feel like zero f**ks or effort were given by anyone throughout the whole song-making process. I think that’s what makes it so terrible to me. It’s Britney Jean teas, except they somehow still ended up with a few bops on that one in spite of it all. Those aren’t here.

[wjr15]

Sept 21, 2024 13:24:57 GMT -5 holdmecloser255 said:

Sept 21, 2024 12:16:08 GMT -5 wjr15 said:

The sharks are out and they smell the blood.

These are mostly Lady Gaga fans in their 30s who still cannot recover from what Katy did to them with "Roar." The fact that Katy had two gigantic hits while Gaga's pop music career was being destroyed has made them permanently bitter no matter how many flops Katy is going to have. Their can certainly gloat as much as they can, but Gaga's career is not exactly thriving either. Sure, she was lucky to hop on a Bruno Mars song that has become a big hit, but she's about to have a $200 million commercial disaster (based on the pre-sale of tickets) and her own solo lead single. Gaga's pop music career was permanently destroyed in 2013, so she had to pivot to jazz, conservative HAC music, acting and just anything to stay afloat. Her only pop album in a decade was a commercial flop that secured a hit only because of streaming giant Ariana. At least, I can appreciate that Katy has never recorded a "country" album. Although, I wanted her to lean more into the pop-rock sound that originally made her famous instead of delivering such a lazy mediocre record.                 

Let’s not start a stan war here and leave that messy stan war stuff on Twitter/X. Gaga is amazing, talented, successful and she’s doing great in her career. Her and Katy are friends. It’s not 2013 anymore.

[Bhad Bill]

Okay after my second listen… CRUSH into LIFETIMES into ALL THE LOVE into NIRVANA is a vibe and just fun dance music. I love it!!

Don’t care for WOMEN’S WORLD, or any of the collabs. GIMME GIMME and 21 savage are complete garbage. So is the Kim Petras song. IM HIS HES MINE is… fine but I don’t really need it. ARTIFICIAL sucks too lol. TRUTH is fine but by the time I got there, who cares? Average.

WONDER is actually beautiful and I like Daisy on it, and I was getting emotional on my run. 💙

I bought it on vinyl and me and my two besties had a fun listening party and drank de soi. I hope this flopping helps her finally ditch Luke and give us something a little more creative. I’d love more tracks like Harleys!!!!

[dbhmr]

This album is trash and deserves the thrashing tbh. It's so lifeless, meaningless, seemingly without effort or interest from anyone involved. That's what makes it on par with Britney Jean. I gave each song at least 60 seconds and few made it beyond that.

She should announce in a month it was entirely AI created to prove that AI can't do art and release something stripped back or experimental. It would be wholly believable at this point.

"Crush" was probably my favorite and that's likely because of the moments I could sing "Catch My Breath" over it lol.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 21, 2024 13:55:42 GMT -5 dbhmr said:

She should announce in a month it was entirely AI created to prove that AI can't do art and release something stripped back or experimental. It would be wholly believable at this point.

I swear I had this thought earlier today! Like wouldn't it be incredible if the cd case held a secret second disc that was the actual new album and all this was just one big social experiment on the danger of using AI to manufacture a pop album. 🤣