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Post by wjr15 on Sept 16, 2024 21:23:38 GMT -5
Maybe Flynn should pick the next single too…
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Post by popwizard on Sept 16, 2024 22:38:05 GMT -5
It's a good thing Katy Kats aren't Jennifer Lopez or even Taylor fans or they would've crumbled having to deal with actual unnecessary/unjustified hatred/vitriol toward their fav as of late. lol Katy is certainly no victim in this situation she perpetrated and gave no f**ks about repairing (saying pretty much "f y'all" in her VMA speech) so any backlash or consequence of her own actions she brought on herself. I admire the level of blind devotion and optimism required to believe your fav never ever makes mistakes or feel they should be criticized when they mess up tho. Personally, Katy's like Nicki for me: I love her material so much, but her personality and character keeps me from being a super fan. As for 143, I see it opening half of what Smile opened with. So I'm expecting 25k, which isn't good, but I haven't expected it to be, so it's what it is. I have been really enjoying "I'm His, He's Mine" surprisingly! I don't think anyone is expecting a blockbuster opening or single for Katy at this stage but I did see some predicting 100k for 143 opening week so, I think it's possible some may be surprised by the outcome, but who knows?! Maybe she'll surprise the hell out of us all and open with 120k or something crazy. lol I think she’ll do Normani numbers. She doesn’t have any streaming numbers. So she won’t get a boost like if she had a hot single. This album is going to launch with weak numbers on radio, streaming and sales. Isnt this coming out in about 4 days? Shouldn’t she be doing some TV promo? It’s probably better if she has a quiet release. Just release the album and move on. On another note, that is unrelated to your post, she should let Orlando’s son pick her next single. She really has nooooo taste if that single and Dark Horse weren’t her choices. I bet she picked Birthday and This Is How We Do as singles.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 16, 2024 22:48:40 GMT -5
It's a good thing Katy Kats aren't Jennifer Lopez or even Taylor fans or they would've crumbled having to deal with actual unnecessary/unjustified hatred/vitriol toward their fav as of late. lol Katy is certainly no victim in this situation she perpetrated and gave no f**ks about repairing (saying pretty much "f y'all" in her VMA speech) so any backlash or consequence of her own actions she brought on herself. I admire the level of blind devotion and optimism required to believe your fav never ever makes mistakes or feel they should be criticized when they mess up tho. Personally, Katy's like Nicki for me: I love her material so much, but her personality and character keeps me from being a super fan. As for 143, I see it opening half of what Smile opened with. So I'm expecting 25k, which isn't good, but I haven't expected it to be, so it's what it is. I have been really enjoying "I'm His, He's Mine" surprisingly! I don't think anyone is expecting a blockbuster opening or single for Katy at this stage but I did see some predicting 100k for 143 opening week so, I think it's possible some may be surprised by the outcome, but who knows?! Maybe she'll surprise the hell out of us all and open with 120k or something crazy. lol I think she’ll do Normani numbers. She doesn’t have any streaming numbers. So she won’t get a boost like if she had a hot single. This album is going to launch with weak numbers on radio, streaming and sales. Isnt this coming out in about 4 days? Shouldn’t she be doing some TV promo? It’s probably better if she has a quiet release. Just release the album and move on. On another note, that is unrelated to your post, she should let Orlando’s son pick her next single. She really has nooooo taste if that single and Dark Horse weren’t her choices. I bet she picked Birthday and This Is How We Do as singles. she definitely picked This Is How We Do. I remember getting all the hidden tea during that time.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 17, 2024 8:26:47 GMT -5
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Post by Ty on Sept 17, 2024 9:05:48 GMT -5
Glad to know she's still booking the MSG!
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 17, 2024 9:26:18 GMT -5
I’m glad we have a tour coming but not until next summer? I was hoping for an arena tour this winter, like Jan/Feb/Mar. Hopefully she comes to Pittsburgh or someplace nearby or else I’ll be taking a trip next summer, since I missed her residency.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 17, 2024 9:27:04 GMT -5
I'm worried about this tour. Even back during the Witness tour she wasn't selling out venues and her profile is even lower now. Hopefully the power of nostalgia pulls through.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 17, 2024 9:37:01 GMT -5
I'm worried about this tour. Even back during the Witness tour she wasn't selling out venues and her profile is even lower now. Hopefully the power of nostalgia pulls through. I think she’ll do fewer shows and stick to larger markets, similar to what Dua is doing. Katy went to smaller markets like Pittsburgh, Omaha, Louisville, Cleveland etc on top of the larger markets too like LA, NYC, Miami for her Witness tour. And it was those smaller markets that had the lower ticket sales. I would be surprised if they try to do a tour as big as her last one.
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Post by PerPlexied on Sept 17, 2024 10:06:33 GMT -5
Maybe Flynn should pick the next single too… Next single???
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 17, 2024 11:39:35 GMT -5
Current streams on Spotify: Woman's World - 33.83M Lifetimes - 19.66M I'm His, He's Mine -2.37M
That's like 10k for the label...There's NO WAY Capitol will make profit from this.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 17, 2024 12:44:21 GMT -5
Well then I hope they drop her or she leaves, cuz CLEARLY they aren’t compatible anymore. They haven’t done anything right by her since Chained to the Rhythm.
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Post by Caviar on Sept 17, 2024 13:00:23 GMT -5
When do tix go on sale?
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Post by wavey. on Sept 17, 2024 13:18:42 GMT -5
Nothing officially announced yet.
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 17, 2024 14:20:12 GMT -5
Sometimes I am excited for this upcoming tour, and then sometimes I am like “cant be arsed with her”, this woman is giving me such dilemma!!
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 17, 2024 14:42:15 GMT -5
Well then I hope they drop her or she leaves, cuz CLEARLY they aren’t compatible anymore. They haven’t done anything right by her since Chained to the Rhythm. How are they doing her "wrong" exactly? It's not known Katy isn't responsible for her own single choices this era if that's the issue, she got a big budget for her first music video following two underperforming eras (which is rare in itself), she got budget for two further videos before the album's release, she's been saturated in the media, she had a good budget for her album including multiple variants, like to me, it seems like the label is doing everything in their power to bolster Katy's career and get her back to the forefront, but she's simply not delivering on her end from what I've seen. What am I missing here to fault her label for any of this mess or even the mess with "Smile" or "Witness" which also seemed to be her own doing? It all seems streamlined by Katy's choices. I mean the more we learn, the more we find out that Katy is detrimental to her own career.
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Sept 17, 2024 16:01:37 GMT -5
Well then I hope they drop her or she leaves, cuz CLEARLY they aren’t compatible anymore. They haven’t done anything right by her since Chained to the Rhythm. How are they doing her "wrong" exactly? It's not known Katy isn't responsible for her own single choices this era if that's the issue, she got a big budget for her first music video following two underperforming eras (which is rare in itself), she got budget for two further videos before the album's release, she's been saturated in the media, she had a good budget for her album, like to me, it seems like the label is doing everything in their power to bolster Katy's career and get her back to the forefront, but she's simply not delivering on her end from what I've seen. What am I missing here to fault her label for any of this mess or even the mess with "Smile" or "Witness" which also seemed to be her own doing? It all seems streamlined by Katy's choices. I mean the more we learn, the more we find out that Katy is detrimental to her own career. It looks like the label approved the single choices and overall the whole album. Can't the label simply say, this material is not good enough to release, we are not going to release it or promote it? Seriously, sometimes I hear singles or albums that are so far below the artist's previous quality level that I can't help myself but think, who approved this for release, who agreed to spend millions on promotion for this song/album? Does anyone at the label have a functioning pair of ears?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 17, 2024 16:11:25 GMT -5
It looks like the label approved the single choices and overall the whole album. Can't the label simply say, this material is not good enough to release, we are not going to release it or promote it? Sure the label has the ultimate ability to "shelve" a project, but I'm quite sure it's not so simple, as money is spent and needs to be recouped for producer's time/work as well as extra songwriter's time and work so it's not as if there can be an endless loop of song construction without compensation. The problem you're contemplating is ultimately still rooted back to the artist, in this case, Katy. She is ultimately responsible for her own material, particularly given she's the core songwriter in this scenario. It's her writing and selection of tracks that form this supposed horrid material. Ultimately a label can only be as strong as its artists creatively. So again, the problem arrives back at Katy's doorstep, not at the label.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 17, 2024 21:03:26 GMT -5
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Post by shakemaki on Sept 18, 2024 0:14:49 GMT -5
I have no clue how much the label/her team are or aren’t at the wheel of things this era vs Katy herself, but what I will say is Katy was the one who ruined so much of the Prism era’s potential to truly be TD 2.0. As far as I recall, she was pretty much in complete control that era, and was the one insistent on single choices such as Unconditionally, Birthday, and the dreaded This Is How We Do over blatantly obvious smashes like Dark Horse, Legendary Lovers, and Walking On Air.
I think she even outright didn’t want DH released at all iirc, and CHR were the ones who took it top 20 without even an adds date (extremely rare) and forced her hand. So my TLDR I guess is that she hasn’t shown to have the best judgment in the past that she knows what works for her.
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 18, 2024 4:43:06 GMT -5
Atleast she is uploading voter registration related posts in between the banal Tiktok clips of annoying twinks dancing to her songs.
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Post by clsvltn on Sept 18, 2024 10:08:14 GMT -5
so Paris Hilton is doing nearly 50K in pure sales this week with her physicals... coupled with her previous digital week only she was nearly 65K units. It would be super embarrassing if Katy doesn't pass that...
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 18, 2024 11:18:30 GMT -5
It would be super embarrassing if Katy doesn't pass that... is that gonna be the next thing people make fun of her about?
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Post by Bhad Bill on Sept 18, 2024 11:43:52 GMT -5
It would be super embarrassing if Katy doesn't pass that... is that gonna be the next thing people make fun of her about? I was actually coming in to say that I hope she does Paris Hilton’s new album’s numbers. And I didn’t mean it as an insult! Can’t add much than what’s already been said other than I’m still rooting for Katy but it definitely seems like she brought all this on herself, from terrible single choices (Birthday, TIHWD, Small Talk, and now Woman’s World). I’m so frustrated because she finally had good will and attention and all she had to do was release a BANGER from ANYONE OTHER THAN LUKE!!! I am still having a listening party on vinyl with two gays and my reluctant sister in my Prismatic world tour shirt on Friday lol. We will be sipping her awful drink de soi.
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Post by clsvltn on Sept 18, 2024 11:44:43 GMT -5
It would be super embarrassing if Katy doesn't pass that... is that gonna be the next thing people make fun of her about? I am a fan of both but yes, that is honestly pretty embarassing. No one would have ever thought Paris Hilton's 2nd album ,nearly 2 decades after her prime would be (potentially) outselling one of the biggest pop stars comeback in music history
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 18, 2024 12:01:52 GMT -5
is that gonna be the next thing people make fun of her about? I am a fan of both but yes, that is honestly pretty embarassing. No one would have ever thought Paris Hilton's 2nd album ,nearly 2 decades after her prime would be (potentially) outselling one of the biggest pop stars comeback in music history she'll also be outsold by everyone in front of her on the chart. Should she be embarrassed about those too?
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 18, 2024 13:02:37 GMT -5
Given her legacy and star power, I would say so.
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Post by clsvltn on Sept 18, 2024 13:24:16 GMT -5
I am a fan of both but yes, that is honestly pretty embarassing. No one would have ever thought Paris Hilton's 2nd album ,nearly 2 decades after her prime would be (potentially) outselling one of the biggest pop stars comeback in music history she'll also be outsold by everyone in front of her on the chart. Should she be embarrassed about those too? Yes? Lol It is a stain on her career and embarrassing without a doubt. I am one of her biggest supporters here, I have constantly played her new music, stuck up for her, etc. but it doesn't change facts that this will be potentially devastating to her legacy
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Sept 18, 2024 13:31:43 GMT -5
I mean, it is embarrassing if she doesn't outsell Paris Hilton, but also why is Paris Hilton selling that much?!?!? lol Those are kind of awesome numbers for not even having a single out there or a musical career.
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 18, 2024 13:55:01 GMT -5
Changing topic, which variant/versions have you guys preordered (if you have)? I am getting the purple vinyl because love that artwork and it segues in well with my purple vinyl collections lol.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 18, 2024 14:29:32 GMT -5
Changing topic, which variant/versions have you guys preordered (if you have)? I am getting the purple vinyl because love that artwork and it segues in well with my purple vinyl collections lol. I got one of the silver signed vinyls because I wanted to have something signed by Katy and I ordered the purple variant so I can have the bonus track.
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