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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 24, 2022 13:27:21 GMT -5
Iβd say Purpose was the first one. That produced 3 Top 5βs at the same time (WDYM, Sorry, and Love Yourself). Iβm still amazed at how Bieber was able to actively promote 3 singles at the same time and have them all in the Top 5 not just that week, but for several weeks afterwards. Iβm pretty sure that is never going to happen again in this era of overexposure. there have been lots of albums with three successful singles (although, yes, Purpose is one of the GOAT with its trifecta) β but Purpose didn't have an album bomb which I'd define as where most of the tracks debuted. Didn't all the deepcuts from Purpose debut that week, including a few Top 40 debuts, Loce Yourself debuting in the Top 10, a few songs from the deluxe
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Post by After Minutes on May 24, 2022 13:50:48 GMT -5
Since we pretty much know what will be Harry's and Jack's next singles, I wonder when they'll be getting their push, since I could see them either having a decent top 10 run (for Dua Lipa, though I could see this even going to #1 off the novelty alone if Jack pulls off an actual remix by Dua) or challenging for the #1 spot (with Late Night Talking)
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 24, 2022 13:51:01 GMT -5
This is what I have:
No. 2, "Sorry," (up from No. 3) No. 4, "Love Yourself" (NEW) No. 5, "What Do You Mean?" (up from No. 6) No. 19, "I'll Show You" (up from No. 27) No. 31, "The Feeling," featuring Halsey (NEW) No. 34, "Where Are U Now" (Skrillex & Diplo With Bieber) (up from No. 49) No. 42, "Mark My Words" (NEW) No. 43, "Purpose" (NEW) No. 49, "No Pressure," featuring Big Sean (NEW) No. 53, "Company" (NEW) No. 54, "No Sense," featuring Travi$ Scott (NEW) No. 67, "Life Is Worth Living" (NEW) No. 74, "Children" (NEW) No. 81, "Been You" (NEW) No. 88, "We Are," featuring Nas (NEW) No. 90, "Get Used to Me" (NEW) No. 98, "Trust" (NEW)
Also, keep in mind this was the week the 25/52 rule was introduced. However, even if the rule wasnβt introduced, TOL and SUAD would probably still be kicked into recurrency by the 9 JB songs in the Top 50.
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Post by inverse on May 24, 2022 14:06:31 GMT -5
some of this album longevity will be a new phenomenon - weβve had album bombs for a few years now (Formation Iβd consider the first real album bomb of the new era), but those typically all fall off in a week or two. Sour (Folklore a little with the longevity of some of those tracks, but Sour was the first with big longevity) heralded a new era where some album tracks will have 10+ weeks from people just streaming the album on loop despite no push from the artist as singles Drake's Views had crazy nuts longevity in 2016. I think that in addition to 3 singles all in the top 20 at once he had "Grammy's", "Hype", "Still Here" and "Child's Play" all hit 10 weeks without ever hitting the top 30 or being released as singles
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 24, 2022 14:17:49 GMT -5
It should be both Purpose (25/52 rule) and Formation (Princeβs death) had external forces that caused many more songs to go recurrent than would have otherwise. The first album to do serious damage to the charts without any help was Divide. That album really destroyed the UK charts, they had to implement the rule that limited the number of songs an artist can chart to 3. Then, a few months later came DAMN. Kendrick really was that big in 2017.
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Post by atg on May 24, 2022 14:42:18 GMT -5
Since we pretty much know what will be Harry's and Jack's next singles, I wonder when they'll be getting their push, since I could see them either having a decent top 10 run (for Dua Lipa, though I could see this even going to #1 off the novelty alone if Jack pulls off an actual remix by Dua) or challenging for the #1 spot (with Late Night Talking) So predicting next singles from the recent album bombs would be: Harry - Late Night Talking Kendrick - Die Hard or Silent Hill Jack Harlow - Dua Lipa Bad Bunny - Me Porto Bonito or Titi Me Pregunto Future - Puffin On Zooties
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 24, 2022 14:53:50 GMT -5
some of this album longevity will be a new phenomenon - weβve had album bombs for a few years now (Formation Iβd consider the first real album bomb of the new era), but those typically all fall off in a week or two. Sour (Folklore a little with the longevity of some of those tracks, but Sour was the first with big longevity) heralded a new era where some album tracks will have 10+ weeks from people just streaming the album on loop despite no push from the artist as singles Iβd say Purpose was the first one. That produced 3 Top 5βs at the same time (WDYM, Sorry, and Love Yourself). Iβm still amazed at how Bieber was able to actively promote 3 singles at the same time and have them all in the Top 5 not just that week, but for several weeks afterwards. Iβm pretty sure that is never going to happen again in this era of overexposure. For an album as big as Purpose was, it's had very terrible longevity on the Billboard 200 but I guess when you consider the performance of Justin's entire album discography on the Billboard 200, it isn't so surprising. He charted 0 albums for like 2 straight years until Changes dropped and then again for a few weeks until Justice dropped.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 24, 2022 14:59:45 GMT -5
There are album bombs, and songs that linger from those, and then you have albums with multiple actively promoted singles. Bieber has had several instances where multiple songs were being actively promoted, and succeeding at the same time. Ariana too. Lingering album bombs Iβm less knowledgeable of as I donβt follow the chart that closely but didnβt Planet Her have a few album tracks that stuck around?
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Post by atg on May 24, 2022 14:59:58 GMT -5
some of this album longevity will be a new phenomenon - weβve had album bombs for a few years now (Formation Iβd consider the first real album bomb of the new era), but those typically all fall off in a week or two. Sour (Folklore a little with the longevity of some of those tracks, but Sour was the first with big longevity) heralded a new era where some album tracks will have 10+ weeks from people just streaming the album on loop despite no push from the artist as singles Iβd say Purpose was the first one. That produced 3 Top 5βs at the same time (WDYM, Sorry, and Love Yourself). Iβm still amazed at how Bieber was able to actively promote 3 singles at the same time and have them all in the Top 5 not just that week, but for several weeks afterwards. Iβm pretty sure that is never going to happen again in this era of overexposure. It was a toss up between albums like 1989, Title, BBTM, Purpose and 25 that had decent album bombs and longevity with their singles including songs on all those projects that werenβt singles but still sticked around on the Hot 100 for a minute. I think Lemonade and Views were the first albums that influenced the streaming era as weβre seeing today and changed the entire way we saw them. It wasnβt anymore just a couple of songs from an album that were the most listened to that made it onto the charts, but the entire album would as well. Then as time passes further into the streaming era, we would see album bombs getting more stronger and stronger and it would eventually be just off majority streaming alone which was really insane, but now its just a regular thing we see.
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Post by gikem on May 24, 2022 15:10:30 GMT -5
As I recall, BBTM was the first album bomb to cause significant damage to a particular part of the Hot 100 (in this case the bottom 50, as I donβt remember if any non-singles actually made the top 40). Purpose (alongside One Directionβs History that same week) was the first one to really impact the top 50 significantly thanks to the exorbitant number of videos Justin made to promote the album (nearly every song on the album had one, at least for the standard edition).
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 24, 2022 15:15:50 GMT -5
There are album bombs, and songs that linger from those, and then you have albums with multiple actively promoted singles. Bieber has had several instances where multiple songs were being actively promoted, and succeeding at the same time. Ariana too. Lingering album bombs Iβm less knowledgeable of as I donβt follow the chart that closely but didnβt Planet Her have a few album tracks that stuck around? I also remember several album tracks off SOUR charting for multiple weeks after the album dropped.
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Post by Limited Edition on May 24, 2022 15:19:53 GMT -5
As It Was will reach top 20 on the GOAT list. Calling it now.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 24, 2022 15:22:54 GMT -5
As It Was will reach top 20 on the GOAT list. Calling it now. Nah, itβs going to peak on radio soon, and Harry is going to drop it to promote Late Night Talking on radio. Itβs only a matter of time before it gets passed by either About Damn Time and/or Wait For U. Iβd be willing to bet at least one of those songs ends up higher than AIW on the all-time chart.
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Post by Limited Edition on May 24, 2022 15:32:12 GMT -5
As It Was will reach top 20 on the GOAT list. Calling it now. Nah, itβs going to peak on radio soon, and Harry is going to drop it to promote Late Night Talking on radio. Itβs only a matter of time before it gets passed by either About Damn Time and/or Wait For U. Iβd be willing to bet at least one of those songs ends up higher than AIW on the all-time chart. My prediction is it will have similar longevity to Stay, maybe not quite as good but still enough to make the top 20
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Post by mms82 on May 24, 2022 15:35:07 GMT -5
This is what I have: No. 2, "Sorry," (up from No. 3) No. 4, "Love Yourself" (NEW) No. 5, "What Do You Mean?" (up from No. 6) No. 19, "I'll Show You" (up from No. 27) No. 31, "The Feeling," featuring Halsey (NEW) No. 34, "Where Are U Now" (Skrillex & Diplo With Bieber) (up from No. 49) No. 42, "Mark My Words" (NEW) No. 43, "Purpose" (NEW) No. 49, "No Pressure," featuring Big Sean (NEW) No. 53, "Company" (NEW) No. 54, "No Sense," featuring Travi$ Scott (NEW) No. 67, "Life Is Worth Living" (NEW) No. 74, "Children" (NEW) No. 81, "Been You" (NEW) No. 88, "We Are," featuring Nas (NEW) No. 90, "Get Used to Me" (NEW) No. 98, "Trust" (NEW) Also, keep in mind this was the week the 25/52 rule was introduced. However, even if the rule wasnβt introduced, TOL and SUAD would probably still be kicked into recurrency by the 9 JB songs in the Top 50. whoops, I apologize I was wrong! good catch phieagles!
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Post by Normi on May 24, 2022 15:44:04 GMT -5
It's always interesting to see album tracks doing their own little thing, like how 'Needed Me' just became a single on its own or 'Sex With Me' randomly appeared in the 80s in 2017 I find it interesting that it's the bigger pop/crossover releases that seem to produce these type of songs
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Post by velaxti on May 24, 2022 15:53:46 GMT -5
It's always interesting to see album tracks doing their own little thing, like how 'Needed Me' just became a single on its own or 'Sex With Me' randomly appeared in the 80s in 2017 I find it interesting that it's the bigger pop/crossover releases that seem to produce these type of songs Rihanna had quite a lot. Loveeeeeee Song, Pour It Up, Birthday Cake, all were chatting for quite a long time before/without being singles. There's of course Dark Horse by Katy Perry which was outperforming her actual 2nd single Unconditionally. The Drake/Future album had album tracks that did very well. Jumpman of course (which peaked on its 4th week I think as an album track which is very unusual because they normally just fall after first week, and then sadly didn't manage to surpass it's peak after it became a single, I think it reached the same position it got to as an album track). They had another album track Big Rings which I think managed to spend 20 weeks on the Hot 100 and go recurrent which is really amazing! I think Someone Like You and Set Fire To the Rain by Adele were chatting a lot before becoming singles too. A lot of Olivia Rodrigo's album tracks seemed to hang around for ages too.
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Post by Groovy on May 24, 2022 16:29:26 GMT -5
Young Thug is also supposed to be on it.
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Post by korbel16 on May 24, 2022 16:57:09 GMT -5
Tbh most of the songs Harry is landing in the top 10 this week are quite good, Daylight in particular
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on May 24, 2022 17:30:43 GMT -5
As It Was will reach top 20 on the GOAT list. Calling it now. Nah, itβs going to peak on radio soon, and Harry is going to drop it to promote Late Night Talking on radio. Itβs only a matter of time before it gets passed by either About Damn Time and/or Wait For U. Iβd be willing to bet at least one of those songs ends up higher than AIW on the all-time chart. peaking at radio doesn't mean free-falling. Blinding Lights peaked at radio in May '20 and it was still #1 until September, and in the top 10 one year after it hit #1 there. Also, In Your Eyes didn't stop BL, so yeah...if it's meant to be, nothing will stop As It Was. also, BL was still in the top 10 after SYT peaked at radio, so you shouldn't use the cards "peaked at radio" and "other singles".
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 24, 2022 21:27:15 GMT -5
Talking about Post Malone look where I found him singing. The movie just got released on Disney +. I doubt the song will chart.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 25, 2022 6:14:51 GMT -5
I think the Top 5 of As It Was, First Class, Wait For U, Late Night Talking, and About Damn Time, in that order, is pretty much set in stone. Outside the Top 5 is where things get interesting.
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Post by whales10268 on May 25, 2022 7:17:37 GMT -5
Hopefully Matilda is the next single.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 25, 2022 7:23:08 GMT -5
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 25, 2022 7:59:09 GMT -5
Harry's House on Spotify Day 1: WW β 97.6M US β 36.3M
Day 2: WW β 68.6M (-30%) US β 24.4M (-33%)
Day 3: WW β 56.7M (-18%) US β 20.6M (-15%)
Day 4: WW β 59.9M (+5%) US β 21.7M (+11%)
Day 5: WW β 54.3M (-10%) US β 19.3M (-11%)
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Post by pokepikalem on May 25, 2022 8:19:32 GMT -5
Harry's House on SpotifyDay 1: WW β 97.6M US β 36.3M Day 2: WW β 68.6M (-30%) US β 24.4M (-33%) Day 3: WW β 56.7M (-18%) US β 20.6M (-15%) Day 4: WW β 59.9M (+5%) US β 21.7M (+11%) Day 5: WW β 54.3M (-10%) US β 19.3M (-11%) 334M after 5 days, so it will hit 400M by the end of the first tracking week. Adding another ~470/480M from AIW before the album release. The album will easily hit 1B before the 2nd tracking week ends.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 25, 2022 10:26:56 GMT -5
US Spotify - 05/24/22
Harry Styles - Harry's House 1(=) As It Was 2,432,888 (-146,223) 2(=) Late Night Talking 2,018,035 (-218,103) 3(=) Matilda 1,654,030 (-192,305) 4(=) Music for a Sushi Restaurant 1,549,144 (-206,493) 5(=) Little Freak 1,489,584 (-189,215) 6(=) Daylight 1,467,825 (-196,624) 7(=) Grapejuice 1,422,219 (-200,691) 8(=) Satellite 1,355,720 (-167,127) 9(=) Cinema 1,258,160 (-184,253) 10(=) Keep Driving 1,256,791 (-174,844) 11(=) Daydreaming 1,224,524 (-177,249) 12(=) Love of My Life 1,183,988 (-157,649) 14(-1) Boyfriends 1,062,930 (-162,666) Total Streams: 19,375,838 (-11%)
Bad Bunny - Un Verano Tin Si 16(=) Me Porto Bonito 1,030,604 (+11,379) 18(=) Tità Me Preguntó 956,536 (-531) 19(=) Moscow Mule 937,558 (-11,303) 21(+1) Después de la Playa 782,472 (-5,799) 23(+1) Ojitos Lindos 764,346 (+20,693) 24(-1) Party 760,411 (+4,010) 31(=) Tarot 568,183 (-1,143) 35(+3) Efecto 538,595 (+18,228) 36(=) Un Ratito 535,103 (-798) 44(-1) Yo No Soy Celoso 495,863 (-5,341) 48(-1) Neverita 457,452 (-5,687) 53(=) La Corriente 434,172 (-4,599) 62(-1) Otro Atardecer 396,858 (-2,783) 63(-1) Andrea 392,857 (+691) 76(+1) Un Coco 361,981 (-603) 77(-2) Aguacero 361,703 (-1,546) 78(-2) El Apagón 360,244 (-2,376) 82(-1) Dos Mil 16 353,072 (-3,564) 91(-4) Callaita 339,767 (+494) 100(-2) Me Fui de Vacaciones 320,818 (-523) 101(+1) Enséñame a Bailar 317,590 (-708) 109(-3) Un Verano Sin Ti 311,614 (-2,748) 151(-11) Agosto 270,962 (-2,047) Total Streams: 12,048,761 (+.02%)
Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers 15(=) N95 1,054,235 (-30,152) 22(-1) Die Hard 780,938 (-24,264) 29(=) Rich Spirit 621,280 (-1,011) 30(=) Silent Hill 592,774 (-23,829) 38(-4) Father Time 515,176 (-29,530) 39(-4) United in Grief 514,598 (-22,073) 51(-3) Count Me Out 439,258 (-23,860) 59(-4) Savior 402,802 (-19,328) 83(-15) We Cry Together 349,400 (-31,381) 89(-15) Purple Hearts 343,384 (-20,172) 103(-14) Worldwide Steppers 316,126 (-21,369) 132(-15) Mr. Morale 282,360 (-17,545) Total Streams: 6,212,331 (-8%)
Others: 13(+1) Jack Harlow - First Class 1,140,342 (+3,402) 17(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 990,985 (+3,401) 20(=) Future, Tems, Drake - WAIT FOR U 846,594 (-1,054) 25(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 749,645-738,576 (+11,069) 26(+1) Future - PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ 679,776 (+7,849) 27(-1) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 675,597 (-6,444) 28(=) Post Malone, Roddy Ricch - Cooped Up 658,470 (-7,494) 31(+1) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 570,321 (+4,528) 33(=) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 563,490 (+9,394) 34(+3) Jack Harlow - Dua Lipa 539,018 (+10,615) 37(+2) KAROL G - PROVENZA 525,667 (+8,530) 40(+1) The Kid LAROI - STAY 510,228 (+2,255) 42(-2) Doja Cat - Woman 504,683 (-8,799) 45(=) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 475,257 (+6,925) 46(=) Justin Bieber - Ghost 469,481 (+4,792) 47(+3) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 461,514 (+17,079) 49(=) WILLOW - Wait a Minute! 444,356 (-10,668) 50(+2) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 442,164 (+2,700) 52(-1) Arctic Monkeys - 505 435,318 (-4,812) 56(+1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 410,392 (-6,267) 57(+1) The Walters - I Love You So 410,175 (-4,926) 60(=) Elley DuhΓ© - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 400,837 (+410) 61(+2) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam 397,214 (+5,746) 68(-2) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 381,506 (-2,500) 69(+1) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 378,168 (+4,184) 70(+1) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 373,995 (+1,231) 71(+1) Tyler the Creator - See You Again 371,696 (-97) 73(+6) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 369,607 (+7,734) 85(+1) Future, Drake - IM ON ONE 347,717 (+7,796) 87(+8) Quavo, Takeoff - HOTEL LOBBY 344,691 (+17,076) 96(-3) The Kid Laroi - Thousand Miles 325,627 (-2,303) 97(+2) Jack Harlow - Churchill Downs 323,550 (+2,625) 98(+5) Latto - Big Energy 321,695 (+4,724)
102(+5) Yeat - MonΓ«y so big 316,546 (+2,246) 104(+1) Lil Baby - Right On 315,332 (+867) 106(-2) Nicky Youre, dazy - Sunroof 314,041 (-1,664) 110(+4) Leah Kate - 10 Things I Hate About You 310,088 (+6,594) 111(+5) Megan Thee Stallion, Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 309,430 (+7,374) 113(-12) CafunΓ© - Tek It 307,896 (-12,124) 116(+2) Ruth B. - Dandelions 301,264 (+2,319) 117(+2) Tyler the Creator - NEW MAGIC WAND 300,978 (+4,492) 122(+5) Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be 291,288 (+3,676) 126(-1) Morgan Wallen - Don't Think Jesus 287,355 (-1,084) 128(-2) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 286,335 (-1,986) 131(-19) Suki Waterhouse - Good Looking 284,298 (-21,422) 138(+38) Lil Baby - In A Minute 278,044 (+24,704) 141(-2) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 276,444 (+2,404) 143(+3) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 275,807 (+6,479) 155(-14) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 268,280 (-3,586) 160(-7) The Rare Occasions - Notion 264,814 (-614) 173(+6) Lil Durk - What Happened To Virgil 256,651 (+4,280) 175(-44) Zach Bryan - Heavy Eyes 256,524 (-28,833) 183(+17) Doja Cat - Vegas 253,121 (+10,381) 187(-27) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange (Z&E Version) 249,240 (-13,104) 194(-14) Zach Bryan - From Austin 246,175 (-6,058) 196(+2) Benson Boone - In the Stars 245,502 (+1,809)
Top 10 Without Harry Styles 1. First Class 2. N95 3. Me Porto Bonito 4. About Damn Time 5. TitΓ Me PreguntΓ³ 6. Moscow Mule 7. WAIT FOR U 8. DespuΓ©s de la Playa 9. Die Hard 10. Ojitos Lindos
Total Streams for Something in the Orange: 819,561
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Post by thatpolishboy on May 25, 2022 10:51:13 GMT -5
Young Thug is also supposed to be on it. Almost a guaranteed worldwide hit just like One Kiss (well, unlikely it will repeat the success). But, I wonder if this will perform better in the US now that Dua is a lot more established?
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Post by gikem on May 25, 2022 11:54:47 GMT -5
Almost a guaranteed worldwide hit just like One Kiss (well, unlikely it will repeat the success). But, I wonder if this will perform better in the US now that Dua is a lot more established? I definitely think it will (keep in mind that no song from FWB Vol. 1 peaked higher than #20). Maybe a contender for #1 or even Song of the Summer, but in terms of its first week, it does have to go up against As It Was the week after Harry's album.
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Post by mms82 on May 25, 2022 11:58:01 GMT -5
there was a mash up of The Wire and Hold On, We're Going Home a few years back that I can't find from a quick Google, but that was fire. I think their sounds would work well
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