Billboard Hot 100: 07/02/2022

[renaboss]

Jun 19, 2022 12:12:29 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Jun 19, 2022 11:36:43 GMT -5 renaboss said:

what was the last Ariana song that actually went hard? "Break Free"?

Rain on Me. I know what you meant, but it's a joint lead!

(I like that song and was so happy it happened AND that it hit #1, buuuut I still felt underwhelmed by it.)

[Ling-Ling]

My only advice, if you're looking to the charts for music, no wonder you're consistently disappointed. None of the best pop, dance, R&B, rock, etc. is on the charts.

Barring a few exceptions of course.

[renaboss]

Jun 19, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I feel like we have this convo about younger artists not having "it" compared to older acts every 3 months and the responses are always the same. I'm just tired at this point.

I'm not gonna debunk any stances (y'all should know my opinions on this topic by now) but my question is this: why is it always music that takes the beating? Why is it never TV or movies or architecture or furniture or theatre or poetry? Why is it always music?

I feel like ageism isn't as big of a problem in other mediums as it is with music. It used to be something so closely associated with the cinema, for example - the older you get, the less leading roles you'll land - but as hard as ageism goes there, it still feels easier for older people to star in a hit movie than it is for someone the same age to have a hit song. It's also much harder to keep track of the amount of hit movies an actor makes compared to the amount of hit songs a singer has. Does anyone even watch the box office charts the way we do the Hot 100? I'm sure that must be a thing, but I've never heard of it. Also, a song is usually by one or two artists, a movie has a whole-ass credited cast with different levels of importance, so... I don't know, way too many variables there. 

Edit: A better question to ask might be, why does the factor of time mean so much more with music than it does with other mediums? If you're caught watching a movie that came out last year, no one bats an eye, but if you're in middle school and someone catches you listening to a 1-year-old song they make fun of you. Been there.

[renaboss]

Jun 19, 2022 12:31:09 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

My only advice, if you're looking to the charts for music, no wonder you're consistently disappointed. None of the best pop, dance, R&B, rock, etc. is on the charts.

Barring a few exceptions of course.

I'm such a chart geek though that falling in love with new releases and not seeing them become hits would be heartbreaking. Go figure.

(Wow, I had not been this active here on Pulse in a long time)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jun 19, 2022 12:36:19 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Jun 19, 2022 12:31:09 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

My only advice, if you're looking to the charts for music, no wonder you're consistently disappointed. None of the best pop, dance, R&B, rock, etc. is on the charts.

Barring a few exceptions of course.

I'm such a chart geek though that falling in love with new releases and not seeing them become hits would be heartbreaking. Go figure.

(Wow, I had not been this active here on Pulse in a long time)

Honestly as someone who's only been chart watching for 5 years: I've detached myself from any expectation the best new music will even chart for one week but also that it has never been the case. The best of the 70s/80s/90s never charted and it won't change anytime soon. And if any great music does chart, it's the exception not the norm.

Once you get over the idea the best music this year will not be on the charts, it makes both chart watching and enjoying music outside of charts much more enjoyable. If anything, it inspires me to listen to more stuff more: if not a lot of people are going to listen to great music, at least you can and your experiences and emotions felt are things no chart can ever take away.

[thegreatdivine]

I hope Drake comes back with an alternative album and then a country album and then a rock album after that.

He's already got enough hits for like 5 careers. He'll probably break the record for the most top 5 hits with this album. That'll give him sole claim over the records for the most top 5/top 10/top 20/top 40/most overall entries on the Hot 100, along with 11 #1 albums.

I'm down for getting "weird" with the music and doing whatever the hell he wants to do, even if it's not usual hip-hop/R&B/pop stuff he usually makes. The sky is the limit. Can't be afraid of flopping by trying something different at this stage of his career with all the success he's been blessed to have. Just try something different and see what happens.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jun 19, 2022 11:53:43 GMT -5 gikem said:

With regards to the shorter length of songs, I’m still waiting for record executives to figure out that extended versions are a thing and that not only do they really expand the number of streams for a song because there’s more than one version to choose from, but it gives you the opportunity to make songs that sound fully fleshed out in terms of structure, thus increasing their quality and making people actually want to listen to them more. That’s how I finally got won over by Lil Nas X’s song Montero - the extended mix puts it on another level for me.

Yeah, and that’s not to say shortened versions can’t also work. Radio edits of album versions were regularly a thing. Why not just issue the two versions? I’d say even what Doja did with “You Right” might work except the extra bit felt more like an addition, rather than filling in what was removed. In the cases of many 2:30 or 3 minute songs, it feels like it’s incomplete. It’s not that they need something added to it, rather they need something to fill it in — if that makes sense to anyone else.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jun 19, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I feel like we have this convo about younger artists not having "it" compared to older acts every 3 months and the responses are always the same. I'm just tired at this point.

I'm not gonna debunk any stances (y'all should know my opinions on this topic by now) but my question is this: why is it always music that takes the beating? Why is it never TV or movies or architecture or furniture or theatre or poetry? Why is it always music?

It’s an interesting question. Why is it only in music that this comes up? I argue that it’s less about the artists and more about their foundation. The labels, how they’re marketed, and what I feel to be label intervention that affects the quality of the music that follows the first album. What I mean by that is that I often wonder how much impact labels have on the music made by artists who have found themselves suddenly successful and are now attempting to extend their success with a new era. I’ve noticed how first albums feel the most original and authentic to the artist and the second album (or third) seems to strip a lot of that signature away in an effort to blend in with whatever is in at the time. Maybe it’s the artists doing it, maybe it’s the producer, or maybe it’s the label pushing it on both in an attempt to get a bigger product. In the end, the result is almost always less interesting than the artist’s own first era and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. But it feels to me that this need for instant success is at the expense of something longer term because the artist is now in less a position to distinguish themselves from others. (Ellie Goulding)

But maybe I’m just rambling.

[atg]

Jun 19, 2022 12:44:54 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I hope Drake comes back with an alternative album and then a country album and then a rock album after that.

He's already got enough hits for like 5 careers. He'll probably break the record for the most top 5 hits with this album. That'll give him sole claim over the records for the most top 5/top 10/top 20/top 40/most overall entries on the Hot 100, along with 11 #1 albums.

I'm down for getting "weird" with the music and doing whatever the hell he wants to do, even if it's not usual hip-hop/R&B/pop stuff he usually makes. The sky is the limit. Can't be afraid of flopping by trying something different at this stage of his career with all the success he's been blessed to have. Just try something different and see what happens.

I would rather him do at least one more IYRTITL type of project but it’s actually labeled a studio album this time (i know it doesn’t mean anything but just labeling it actually goes a long way). Then after he can experiment all he wants. I think doing this could definitely please everyone in his fan base who’s been wanting him to do a straight rap project for years and for people who are tired of him making the same sounds over and over and want to see change for once. H,NM probably appeals a lot more to the latter but its just that we don’t see much people praising the album because its full of hate rn.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jun 19, 2022 12:33:09 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Jun 19, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I feel like we have this convo about younger artists not having "it" compared to older acts every 3 months and the responses are always the same. I'm just tired at this point.

I'm not gonna debunk any stances (y'all should know my opinions on this topic by now) but my question is this: why is it always music that takes the beating? Why is it never TV or movies or architecture or furniture or theatre or poetry? Why is it always music?

I feel like ageism isn't as big of a problem in other mediums as it is with music. It used to be something so closely associated with the cinema, for example - the older you get, the less leading roles you'll land - but as hard as ageism goes there, it still feels easier for older people to star in a hit movie than it is for someone the same age to have a hit song. It's also much harder to keep track of the amount of hit movies an actor makes compared to the amount of hit songs a singer has. Does anyone even watch the box office charts the way we do the Hot 100? I'm sure that must be a thing, but I've never heard of it. Also, a song is usually by one or two artists, a movie has a whole-ass credited cast with different levels of importance, so... I don't know, way too many variables there. 

Edit: A better question to ask might be, why does the factor of time mean so much more with music than it does with other mediums? If you're caught watching a movie that came out last year, no one bats an eye, but if you're in middle school and someone catches you listening to a 1-year-old song they make fun of you. Been there.

I think the box office definitely has its own set of followers. It seems to be in more news tidbits and stories than hot 100 stats I find. But the ageism thing, I think a lot of it might just be with how we view music. Musicians don’t disappear or stop what they’re doing just because they’re getting older. They just no longer make the charts, and while there’s certainly an age aspect to that, in particular to amount of label promotion put into them, that doesn’t mean their success is ending. Mass music consumption is mainly a younger people thing. Staying up with the hottest trends and whatnot. There’s a point where people usually stop doing that. After a while, artists will stop catering to those audiences too. But they still carry on with major tours and stuff anyway well into their 50s onward. The biggest tours of any year usually include older acts. That’s their domain.
But I suppose then it asks the question, how often do we listen to new music by artists 50+? Even if it isn’t music that makes the chart, is there anything by an artist 50 or older that has made any sort of interesting statement or something worthy of being noticed? Now I’m curious! Imma make a thread!

[phieaglesfan712]

Elton John is about to have the longest running charting hit of his career at age 75, after an almost 25-year hiatus.

Can you imagine Drake going on hiatus now, and then getting a huge hit in like 2046/2047?

[HolidayGuy]

Elton John had 50 years and change in his career before "Cold Heart," which, if it were a solo single, wouldn't be doing as well as it has. And, it's not like he hasn't released music in 25 years.

Drake's success among those to emerge/hit it big in the digital-/streaming-era is untouchable, that much is for sure.

[ontopofthis]

Jun 19, 2022 1:19:07 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I like that the idea of not having a monoculture is somehow a bad thing

I actually believe that it is great and gives artists more agency. That is for the people who are whining about nothing feeling eventful or ubiquitous anymore 

[ontopofthis]

Jun 19, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I feel like we have this convo about younger artists not having "it" compared to older acts every 3 months and the responses are always the same. I'm just tired at this point.

I'm not gonna debunk any stances (y'all should know my opinions on this topic by now) but my question is this: why is it always music that takes the beating? Why is it never TV or movies or architecture or furniture or theatre or poetry? Why is it always music?

There are probably even more articles and what not about movie stars not being a thing anymore because of the younger generations not having anyone who can reliably have people go to theaters, so that is not even true. You see it on here because it is a website about music, but the conversation is usually always about actors to be honest 

[85la]

Jun 19, 2022 12:33:09 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Jun 19, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I feel like we have this convo about younger artists not having "it" compared to older acts every 3 months and the responses are always the same. I'm just tired at this point.

I'm not gonna debunk any stances (y'all should know my opinions on this topic by now) but my question is this: why is it always music that takes the beating? Why is it never TV or movies or architecture or furniture or theatre or poetry? Why is it always music?

I feel like ageism isn't as big of a problem in other mediums as it is with music. It used to be something so closely associated with the cinema, for example - the older you get, the less leading roles you'll land - but as hard as ageism goes there, it still feels easier for older people to star in a hit movie than it is for someone the same age to have a hit song. It's also much harder to keep track of the amount of hit movies an actor makes compared to the amount of hit songs a singer has. Does anyone even watch the box office charts the way we do the Hot 100? I'm sure that must be a thing, but I've never heard of it. Also, a song is usually by one or two artists, a movie has a whole-ass credited cast with different levels of importance, so... I don't know, way too many variables there. 

Funny you mention this, because I am exactly this person!!! (at least a lot more so in the past, I've become a bit more focused on music charts lately because of the declining relevance of the box office and streaming taking over, which is harder to track and get usage numbers from). And I'm especially weird in that I'm familiar with all time periods and eras, literally from the beginning of the Golden Age of Hollywood around 1930 all the way to the present.

Ageism might be a little less of a factor in movies than it is in music and perhaps it's getting a little better, but it definitely still and has always existed and especially much more for women than for men (as is the case in music). If you're a male actor, whether you're in your 20s or your 50s or even 60s, studios will still often cast you in the biggest blockbuster leading roles, while for females this would be unthinkable (case in point, Tom Cruise, who will turn 60 next month, just had his biggest box office opener ever with Top Gun 2). And in terms of tracking the number of "hit movies" per actor, that isn't too difficult either, but perhaps a little more subjective and definitely depends on different factors as well (as in music), such as how big the star is and the prestige level of the rest of the cast and crew, but a good benchmark to use would be if the film was able to make a profit, taking the box office gross against the production costs (if known). Despite this, critical acclaim also seems to be more important in movies than in music, so if a movie grosses $200 million at the box office and makes a profit but is panned by critics, it often isn't seen as "legit" enough of a success as a multi-platinum album with multiple top ten hits but with similarly poor reviews would be.

I'm sure a lot of what I'm talking about also applies to TV (and other areas of entertainment, such as various types of live performances and theater), but I don't follow those as closely.

[iHype.]

The elephant in the room is that Drake clearly has lost touch of what music of his are highlights and would actually resonate with the public.

A lot of the recent output not being received well or not doing as well on the charts comes down to him simply making wrong selections.

“Falling Back” being pushed as the lead when it is one of the worst songs on the album, and by the end of the week there will be at least 3+ other tracks higher. The first tracks on the album were arguably the worst so I have no clue as to why he would put them at the top of the tracklist. This ruined maximizing a #1 debut and the tracklist also messed with the reception and people sitting through the album.

“What’s Next” should’ve never been a single over “Wants and Needs”.

“Toosie Slide” had no business being a fully promoted single of all songs from Dark Lane Demo Tapes.

CLB would’ve been better received with some obvious weak songs removed, and other than “Way 2 Sexy” being a lead everything else was horribly planned. “Girls Want Girls” should’ve never been a single and “Knife Talk” was pushed way too late. Scorpion having “I’m Upset” be a single right before release then also releasing “Don’t Matter to Me” as a single on release we’re two consecutive historically bad fumbles and he got really lucky by “In My Feelings” taking off on its own and saving the post-release portion of the era.



Too many yes men around him.

[ontopofthis]

You are not getting another "experimental," lol, project from him again. The label is about to have him on a tight leash because the numbers are bad, and the one song that is showing any strength is the one that is not even similar to the others. It is hilarious how the Drake stans who would not shut up about The Weeknd's numbers are all "its about the art." Unlike The Weeknd's project, the reviews for Drake's are not even good to be saying anything about artistry 

[fridayteenage]

Jun 19, 2022 15:00:33 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

Elton John had 50 years and change in his career before "Cold Heart," which, if it were a solo single, wouldn't be doing as well as it has. And, it's not like he hasn't released music in 25 years.

Drake's success among those to emerge/hit it big in the digital-/streaming-era is untouchable, that much is for sure.

drake can collab with rihanna's baby in a few decades to get his cold heart.

[Ling-Ling]

Jun 19, 2022 15:26:26 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

You are not getting another "experimental," lol, project from him again. The label is about to have him on a tight leash because the numbers are bad, and the one song that is showing any strength is the one that is not even similar to the others. It is hilarious how the Drake stans who would not shut up about The Weeknd's numbers are all "its about the art." Unlike The Weeknd's project, the reviews for Drake's are not even good to be saying anything about artistry 

Drake is signed to his own label, lol. He can literally do anything he wants.

[JukeboxJacob]

Jun 19, 2022 6:31:56 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Jun 19, 2022 4:57:46 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

well as pop culture and music chart enthusiasts, it's not as interesting

so because things are less centralized and there's more variety, that's somehow less interesting?

I guess it's about what you prefer. I think it's more fun when there's media that a large portion of the population is into at the same time

[JukeboxJacob]

Jun 19, 2022 8:23:21 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 10.32 (+1.52)

Its airplay is making some big strides. Should be at a good number by the time the season finale of Stranger Things airs! Still rooting for this to get a week at #1 on the Hot 100.

I didn't get the appeal at first, now it's been stuck in my head

[iHype.]

Jun 19, 2022 15:26:26 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

You are not getting another "experimental," lol, project from him again. The label is about to have him on a tight leash because the numbers are bad, and the one song that is showing any strength is the one that is not even similar to the others. It is hilarious how the Drake stans who would not shut up about The Weeknd's numbers are all "its about the art." Unlike The Weeknd's project, the reviews for Drake's are not even good to be saying anything about artistry 

This is delusion and trying to insert an opinion on something you know nothing about lol.

His music is released through his own label - OVO Records, which is why this release was the mess it was. He is under Republic via a distribution deal ala Taylor/Weeknd. They own their masters and control the releases, Republic just distributes and promotes for them.

His label isn't going to have him on a "tight leash" when he runs everything and is his own boss to begin with. This also isn't some new artist who debuted 2 years ago and has to prove they're able to be commercially viable. He still is the most consumed artist of the year regardless of how this performs, and just smashed with an album literally 9 months ago. This is just additional money for his team and label(s) from someone who is already by far one of their most profitable names. He could sit on a couch for the next year straight and drop absolutely nothing, and still consistently be a top 5 selling artist off his catalog alone. This isn't an Ava Max or Camila Cabello who is only as relevant and profitable as their current era. 

[JukeboxJacob]

Jun 19, 2022 11:36:43 GMT -5 renaboss said:

I have sadly reached that age where I find myself thinking "they don't make music like they used to anymore." I wouldn't say I'm out of touch necessarily, since I do keep up with a variety of charts and have an annoying friend who shares most TikTok trends with me, but none of it excites me much - it takes a real novelty like a Disney song or a Kate Bush comeback to pique my interest. Album bombs have also really hindered the legitimacy of the Hot 100 and other charts for me; I don't need another lecture on how the weekly charts should accurately reflect the biggest songs on any given week, I still think all that data should be factored exclusively into the albums chart and have the Hot 100 go back to being a proper singles chart. But anyway.

My biggest problem, musically speaking, is with how lowbeat today's music is. It's the rare hit that makes you want to get up and dance, and proper ballads seem to be a thing of the past too, it's all very middle-of-the-road between the two. The point has been made here that today's music reflects the perpetual state of ennui that young listeners are in during these trying times, but let's face it, every single era has found the world at large saying that things keep getting worse, so that excuse only goes so far, and if anything I feel like upbeat music should be needed more then. Even pop music is following in the tradition of lowbeat hip-hop - what was the last Ariana song that actually went hard? "Break Free"?

Also, I hate that rising trend of making songs as short as possible to rack up more streams. If a song doesn't have a climax, I don't feel inclined to replay it, why be disappointed over and over?

It's hard not to think that today's pop stars really don't have what it takes to become A-listers, but it goes beyond their talent or versatility. The system is simply rigged against them - ever since the advent of the teen idol culture, every artist's peak follows one particular generation for a period of time, and once their listeners grow out of the contemporary hit scene, those artists are done for. And those eras keep getting shorter and shorter, meaning that artists have a slimmer chance of becoming legacy acts. It's still mind-boggling how huge Katy was for 5-6 years and how fast she fell. I love Doja, but I have a hard time imagining her selling out arenas ten years from now... Fingers crossed, though.

thanks for your input, it's pretty interesting! I agree, album bombs make things interesting, but annoying at the same time. What if Billboard introduced a new Hot 100 that filtered out the first week placements of album bombs? That would kinda cool IMO

You're 100% right about the lowbeat thing. That's the reason so many people don't like today's music, and why the whole industry's in such a rut. Yet when we DO get the occasional "fun" song, like Bam Bam, they falter in success b/c they don't fit in. I also agree that society NEEDS more uplifting music during sucky times. That's actually what happened during the recession of 08/09, instead of music going limp, artists decided to do the opposite and make happy music, the medium was used as an escape, rather than a way to vent like it is today.

I disagree with the song lengths tho. As someone with crippling ADHD, I think songs going short is the best change to happen to music in a while. No more choruses repeated more times than necessary, and no more nothing bridges.

Lastly, I think stars are just as able, or even more able to be cultural icons than in the past, with everyone being on social media all the time nowadays. LNX is kinda setting an example of this IMO

[JukeboxJacob]

Jun 19, 2022 12:27:37 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Jun 19, 2022 11:55:09 GMT -5 mms82 said:

what they said

It's okay sometimes to express dislike or disinterest without it being an attack or offense. I don't like the current state of pop music or pop charts, but the only reason I have an opinion in the first place is because I care. This, btw, is not an attack on you either, I think you phrased your point rather well, other people here would simply dismiss me with some snappy and predictable remark.

yeah you have to walk on eggshells around here

[thegreatdivine]

Jun 19, 2022 15:26:26 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

You are not getting another "experimental," lol, project from him again. The label is about to have him on a tight leash because the numbers are bad, and the one song that is showing any strength is the one that is not even similar to the others. It is hilarious how the Drake stans who would not shut up about The Weeknd's numbers are all "its about the art." Unlike The Weeknd's project, the reviews for Drake's are not even good to be saying anything about artistry 

I admire your hate for Drake but there have been others before you who did it A LOT better. Posts like this are weak and expose just how little you know about Drake's music/career.

[JukeboxJacob]

Jun 19, 2022 12:33:09 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Jun 19, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

what they said

Edit: A better question to ask might be, why does the factor of time mean so much more with music than it does with other mediums? If you're caught watching a movie that came out last year, no one bats an eye, but if you're in middle school and someone catches you listening to a 1-year-old song they make fun of you. Been there.

Music evolves faster than any other mediums of culture, well, other than memes. A movie from 10 years ago (say, Hunger Games) doesn't really wear its age, if that movie was made today, it probably wouldn't be that different. Therefore, watching a decade old movie is like whatever. However, a song from 10 years ago (pick any EDM hit of summer 2012) sounds incredibly dated. Therefore, listening to that stuff is deemed "uncool"

[thegreatdivine]

Jun 19, 2022 15:24:53 GMT -5 iHype. said:

The elephant in the room is that Drake clearly has lost touch of what music of his are highlights and would actually resonate with the public.

A lot of the recent output not being received well or not doing as well on the charts comes down to him simply making wrong selections.

“Falling Back” being pushed as the lead when it is one of the worst songs on the album, and by the end of the week there will be at least 3+ other tracks higher. The first tracks on the album were arguably the worst so I have no clue as to why he would put them at the top of the tracklist. This ruined maximizing a #1 debut and the tracklist also messed with the reception and people sitting through the album.

“What’s Next” should’ve never been a single over “Wants and Needs”.

“Toosie Slide” had no business being a fully promoted single of all songs from Dark Lane Demo Tapes.

CLB would’ve been better received with some obvious weak songs removed, and other than “Way 2 Sexy” being a lead everything else was horribly planned. “Girls Want Girls” should’ve never been a single and “Knife Talk” was pushed way too late. Scorpion having “I’m Upset” be a single right before release then also releasing “Don’t Matter to Me” as a single on release we’re two consecutive historically bad fumbles and he got really lucky by “In My Feelings” taking off on its own and saving the post-release portion of the era.



Too many yes men around him.

I wouldn't say he has lost his touch because he's still making music that people care enough to listen to and it's not a case of having yes men around him either. I think, as always, it's simply Drake making/pushing the music he personally likes without putting too much thought behind it. I recall the story of him making/releasing Started from the Bottom as the lead single off Nothing Was the Same and how his team/label didn't get it and thought it was a bad decision. Ditto for Hotline Bling and how no one around him "got it" when he played it for them. He has always done what he wants to do. This is the same man who pushed Marvins Room (of all songs) as the lead single off Take Care.

I totally agree that his decisions on singles over the last few years have been spotty but for someone with as many hits as he has, is that really surprising? I doubt he's as calculative about what songs "work" like some other musicians are. He's been on "just put the music out and let it do what it'll do" energy for years now and it always works out somehow because he is who he is. Maybe he misses out on some #1/top 10 hits as a result but at this point, who cares, really?

Personally, I wouldn't mind if he spends the rest of his career just exploring other genres and putting his own spin on them. He's got more hits than any one man should have plus he can always score more hits through features so he'll be fine in that department. I'd definitely be here for more adventurous albums, even if it doesn't always work. The fun will be in him just trying sh*t he's never done before. I totally get where you're coming from on the points you made, though.

[Angel]

Jun 19, 2022 15:03:37 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Jun 19, 2022 1:19:07 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I like that the idea of not having a monoculture is somehow a bad thing

I actually believe that it is great and gives artists more agency. That is for the people who are whining about nothing feeling eventful or ubiquitous anymore 

My "okay boomer" moment, I guess. But I actually kind of agree tbh. I really do love being able to find my own lane and taste and only focus on artists I enjoy listening to but I also imagine there was something so fun about being a part of Thrillermania. The only thing I can think of that comes even remotely close that I have been a part of myself is 25 release week. I remember going to target to get the CD and having a moment with someone my parents' age. We just spent a few minutes talking about how much we loved Hello and how excited we were to listen to the new album. That really feels lost in today's culture. I guess if you wanna engage with people online you can but it isn't the same. 

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Where did WDTAB peak in total AI?

[JukeboxJacob]

Jun 19, 2022 12:31:09 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

My only advice, if you're looking to the charts for music, no wonder you're consistently disappointed. None of the best pop, dance, R&B, rock, etc. is on the charts.

Barring a few exceptions of course.

yeah but the charting stuff could also be a lot better