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Post by awkwardowl on Nov 14, 2022 14:47:35 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback: November 18, 201701 01 Rockstar - Post Malone feat. 21 Savage (4th of 8 weeks at #1)02 07 Havana - Camila Cabello feat. Young Thug 03 02 Bodak Yellow (Money Moves) - Cardi B 04 03 1-800-273-8255 - Logic feat. Alessia Cara & Khalid 05 05 Thunder - Imagine Dragons 06 04 Feel It Still - Portugal. The Man 07 14 Gucci Gang - Lil Pump 08 06 Sorry Not Sorry - Demi Lovato 09 08 Mi Gente - J Balvin & Willy William 10 09 Too Good At Goodbyes - Sam Smith 14 NE MotorSport - Migos, Nicki Minaj & Cardi B 19 46 ...Ready For It? - Taylor Swift Here is the start of last (to date) multiweek battle for #1 in the autumn season. Hope that 21/Drake can rise quickly on the radio and will be able to fight Taylor next weeks or after Xmas.
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Post by mikerivera on Nov 14, 2022 14:50:55 GMT -5
Honestly, no matter how it came about, 327k is an insanely impressive number.
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Post by awkwardowl on Nov 14, 2022 14:55:01 GMT -5
Most Hot 100 top 10 hits in the 2020s decade (so far)1. Drake - 31 2. Taylor Swift - 15 3. 21 Savage - 12 4. Justin Bieber - 10 5. Lil Baby - 10 6/7/8. Future, BTS, Juice WRLD - 7 9/10/11. Bad Bunny, Doja Cat, Harry Styles - 6 Crazy and weird one. Drake is just one album release away from having more top 10 in three years span than everyone else's entire career from past decades.
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Post by Gary on Nov 14, 2022 14:58:52 GMT -5
Taylor fans seem to play "the game" better than BTS
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 14, 2022 15:03:23 GMT -5
Sorry to interrupt the Drake/Taylor discussions but: "Swift has been credited as the lead artist on all 40 of her top 10s, while Madonna ranks third with 37 top 10s as a lead act, among her 38 total."
Which of Madonna's 38 top tens are they not giving her credit for as a lead act??? "4 Minutes" and "Give Me All Your Luvin'" featured other artists but Madonna was the lead on all of them.
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Post by irice22 on Nov 14, 2022 15:04:12 GMT -5
Wasn't BTS selling different looks of the same exact song or something? Seems a bit different than remixes.
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Post by wavey. on Nov 14, 2022 15:11:52 GMT -5
Lol ion wanna hear shxt else about someone doing tactics or anything no more🤣🤣🤣
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Post by avavago on Nov 14, 2022 15:12:07 GMT -5
Sorry to interrupt the Drake/Taylor discussions but: "Swift has been credited as the lead artist on all 40 of her top 10s, while Madonna ranks third with 37 top 10s as a lead act, among her 38 total." Which of Madonna's 38 top tens are they not giving her credit for as a lead act??? "4 Minutes" and "Give Me All Your Luvin'" featured other artists but Madonna was the lead on all of them. The article's been corrected on their site, now says "...Madonna ranks third with 38 top 10s, also all as a lead act."
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Post by badrobot on Nov 14, 2022 15:14:54 GMT -5
Sorry to interrupt the Drake/Taylor discussions but: "Swift has been credited as the lead artist on all 40 of her top 10s, while Madonna ranks third with 37 top 10s as a lead act, among her 38 total." Which of Madonna's 38 top tens are they not giving her credit for as a lead act??? "4 Minutes" and "Give Me All Your Luvin'" featured other artists but Madonna was the lead on all of them. I noticed that too. I wonder if they're calling 4 Minutes a duet, and thus a shared lead credit? Which is weird because that would still mean she's lead.
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Post by mylo on Nov 14, 2022 15:16:15 GMT -5
Hope yall Swifties know you can call her and her team out for these tactics, and still love the song and album. You don't need to pick and choose. Why would I call her out because chart manipulation is a bad thing regardless of the artist?
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Post by iHype. on Nov 14, 2022 15:23:17 GMT -5
The most annoying thing about this is the fact it’s a new beginning and we will now see countless webstore remixes throughout chart runs everytime she does a new single period
If she can juice 300K downloads in a week just because theres nothing stopping her from doing it with the second, third, etc singles and any other upcoming TV singles
Even Carolina & Message In A Bottle would’ve magically been #1 hits they did 300K downloads in a week
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Nov 14, 2022 15:27:11 GMT -5
We need to halt the Swiftie invasion of Pulse immediately
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 14, 2022 15:45:37 GMT -5
so the actual number is even higher than any of the predictors even expected. what's the best-selling song of the year again? I think Anti-Hero might take it now with that alone. We don’t have official word, as it was, about damn time, and big energy are most likely the best sellers this year near the 225k mark but those are rough numbers
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Post by badrobot on Nov 14, 2022 15:56:11 GMT -5
I don’t listen to much Taylor Swift and haven’t heard any of the new album or the remixes, but if my fave artist released a bunch of remixes and I liked them, I’d be excited just to have the music.
For all the talk of chart manipulation, this is also a case of people just buying music they like… which is kind of the point of what the charts are supposed to measure.
I always thought the BTS stuff was kind of sad because a lot of it was mass buying of stuff that these fans already had (nobody needed 100 digital copies of the same track). But Taylor (and most of the other artists releasing extra remixes) are actually giving fans new music.
If chart rules inspire artists to create more remixes that fans can enjoy, I’d count that as a good thing. A lot of remixes are great!
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 14, 2022 16:04:12 GMT -5
I did some quick calculations. Unholy got 91.5% of kworb's radio audience for the week, while Anti-Hero got 88%. It looks like they might be using the same panel of radio stations as they did before, but they just switched to Mediabase completely as their data source.
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Post by Fanstar1 on Nov 14, 2022 16:09:05 GMT -5
Lmaooo didn’t she only need like 80k sales for the #1 Way to overshoot swifties Taylor needed more like 100-120k sales for #1. As far as I can tell there wasn't much coordination or organization behind the sales push either for that matter.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2022 16:21:45 GMT -5
15 Drake songs in the Hot 100 top 20. A new record for most songs charting simultaneously in the top 20 by a single act.
CLB/Midnights both had 14 songs in the top 20.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2022 16:24:15 GMT -5
I don't see why Taylor can't use remixes to score 19 more #1 hits from Midnights. 350-400k sales for each song should do the trick.
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Post by 85la on Nov 14, 2022 16:51:41 GMT -5
I doubt she will do it every time, nor will it work every time though. The extra incentive for fans for this specifically, in addition to keeping her #1, was to gain priority access to her tour; there's only so many tours she can go on, and I bet even she couldn't have predicted they would snatch these up so zealously. Plus, if she follows the inner workings of the charts closely, she knows this looks bad, and probably doesn't want the "BTS" stigma.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 14, 2022 16:54:15 GMT -5
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Post by wavey. on Nov 14, 2022 17:03:52 GMT -5
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Post by firefox on Nov 14, 2022 17:07:29 GMT -5
Ohhh, so Drake cares about the charts, too.
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Post by firefox on Nov 14, 2022 17:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2022 17:12:36 GMT -5
Ohhh, so Drake cares about the charts, too. Not enough to ever do anything to game the charts in his favor, though, which is really what matters. I bet his team told him about the shenanigans Taylor pulled to hold on to the #1 spot this week and that's his reaction to that.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2022 17:17:01 GMT -5
I doubt she will do it every time, nor will it work every time though. The extra incentive for fans for this specifically, in addition to keeping her #1, was to gain priority access to her tour; there's only so many tours she can go on, and I bet even she couldn't have predicted they would snatch these up so zealously. Plus, if she follows the inner workings of the charts closely, she knows this looks bad, and probably doesn't want the "BTS" stigma. Bold of you to assume Taylor cares about the "BTS stigma." As long as she can secure her chart positions and other accolades, she's good and she is willing to do absolutely whatever is necessary to get them.
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Post by Mayman on Nov 14, 2022 17:17:35 GMT -5
at his story. At least he got eight new top 10s from this album. It looks like Rich Flex and Spin Bout U could have decent longevity.
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 14, 2022 17:18:24 GMT -5
LMFAO! I’ll always love him. Just messy.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2022 17:30:41 GMT -5
at his story. At least he got eight new top 10s from this album. It looks like Rich Flex and Spin Bout U could have decent longevity. A new #1 album 4 new top 5 hits 8 new top 10 hits 15 new top 20 hits 15 new top 40 hits 15 new Hot 100 entries And all from a collab album announced 6 days before its originally-intended release date. I'd log that one as a win. I'm curious as to which song will be pushed as the lead single though. It's interesting to me that it's already almost 2 weeks since the album dropped and no song has been selected as a single yet.
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Post by Mayman on Nov 14, 2022 17:34:05 GMT -5
at his story. At least he got eight new top 10s from this album. It looks like Rich Flex and Spin Bout U could have decent longevity. A new #1 album 4 new top 5 hits 8 new top 10 hits 15 new top 20 hits 15 new top 40 hits 15 new Hot 100 entries And all from a collab album announced 6 days before its originally-intended release date. I'd log that one as a win. I'm curious as to which song will be pushed as the lead single though. It's interesting to me that it's already almost 2 weeks since the album dropped and no song has been selected as a single yet. I know, I was wondering the same thing. I saw Privileged Rappers got that performance video, but I don't think that means anything. Circo Loco and Rich Flex are both in the top 50 on Rhythmic radio, but I don't think there's been an official push for either one of them, at least not yet. It'll be interesting to see what they go with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 17:46:21 GMT -5
I don't see why Taylor can't use remixes to score 19 more #1 hits from Midnights. 350-400k sales for each song should do the trick. That would be legendary. We need her to do it --- It's very funny to see people trying to shade Taylor with BTS. Like they are literally a global phenomenon and she's on her 10th album at a time when she should be considered a geriatric popstar. I genuinely don't see the shade especially since she is an artist with undeniable iconic GP hits and albums regardless of any tactics 16 years down the line. It seems like an attempt at discrediting her when in fact it just shows that she won the "war"
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