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Post by jayromeo19 on Nov 14, 2022 17:52:33 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 14, 2022 17:54:40 GMT -5
I doubt she will do it every time, nor will it work every time though. The extra incentive for fans for this specifically, in addition to keeping her #1, was to gain priority access to her tour; there's only so many tours she can go on, and I bet even she couldn't have predicted they would snatch these up so zealously. Plus, if she follows the inner workings of the charts closely, she knows this looks bad, and probably doesn't want the "BTS" stigma. well too late for that haha she surpassed it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 17:57:06 GMT -5
I doubt she will do it every time, nor will it work every time though. The extra incentive for fans for this specifically, in addition to keeping her #1, was to gain priority access to her tour; there's only so many tours she can go on, and I bet even she couldn't have predicted they would snatch these up so zealously. Plus, if she follows the inner workings of the charts closely, she knows this looks bad, and probably doesn't want the "BTS" stigma. well too late for that haha she surpassed it. I'm sure EVERYONE wants the " BTS" stigma since it seems to be code for nonstop success Back to reality: We love a three week #1 smash hit from an artist at her peak. Not everyone has that in 2022  |
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Post by wavey. on Nov 14, 2022 18:07:51 GMT -5
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 14, 2022 18:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by firefox on Nov 14, 2022 18:17:59 GMT -5
What's the update on chart positions Drake hasn't occupied yet? Are there any new gaps filled already? And also, almost 300 Hot 100 entries for Drake?! 🤯
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 14, 2022 18:25:40 GMT -5
What's the update on chart positions Drake hasn't occupied yet? Are there any new gaps filled already? And also, almost 300 Hot 100 entries for Drake?! 🤯 31, 43, 46, 59, 77, 93, 96, 98, 99 |
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Post by firefox on Nov 14, 2022 18:30:37 GMT -5
What's the update on chart positions Drake hasn't occupied yet? Are there any new gaps filled already? And also, almost 300 Hot 100 entries for Drake?! 🤯 31, 43, 46, 59, 77, 93, 96, 98, 99 We need a Drake flop album to fill those up. Get that Drake! |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 14, 2022 18:36:07 GMT -5
It's been obvious for a while now but digital sales should be weighed down again, maybe even completely split in half or removed entirely. Nobody buys digital singles anymore unless it's a mass buying campaign, it would also prevent stuff like "Am I the Only One" or all the other right-wing boomer tracks like that debuting Top 40 with purely sales and no streaming/airplay.
Before any stans come at me, I think radio needs to be weighed down too. But more people are listening to radio than buying digital singles, so it should be weighed more than sales for sure. But at the end of the day, it's almost 2023, the most popular way to consume music is streaming and it's been like that for a while. We live in the streaming era, and that metric should be increased. Streams should matter more than sales and airplay since that's how most people consume music nowadays, and it's very hard to manipulate streaming which is why stans sorta dropped mass streaming and moved over to mass buying as it's more successful to get a huge debut that way.
I don't hate Taylor for playing the system, but Billboard probably should've cut sales last summer after "Butter" sat at #1 for 10 weeks.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 14, 2022 18:42:05 GMT -5
Ohhh, so Drake cares about the charts, too. Not enough to ever do anything to game the charts in his favor, though, which is really what matters. I bet his team told him about the shenanigans Taylor pulled to hold on to the #1 spot this week and that's his reaction to that. Lmaoooo “i bet his team told him” ily |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2022 18:45:36 GMT -5
Drake's Billboard RecordsMost cumulative weeks spent on the Hot 100 (all entries): 2,839 weeks Most cumulative weeks spent on the Hot 100 (all chart weeks): 680 weeks Most consecutive weeks spent on the Hot 100: 431 weeks (2009-2017) Most weeks spent on the Artist 100: 437 weeks Most Hot 100 hits: 293 Most top 40 Hot 100 hits: 173 Most top 20 Hot 100 hits: 115 Most top 10 Hot 100 hits: 67 Most top 5 Hot 100 hits: 34 Most No. 1 Hot 100 debuts: 7 Most top 5 Hot 100 debuts: 24 Most top 10 Hot 100 debuts: 52 Most top 20 Hot 100 debuts: 92 Most top 40 Hot 100 debuts: 140 Most No. 2-peaking Hot 100 hits: 8 Most simultaneous Hot 100 debuts in a single week: 22 Most simultaneous top 20 Hot 100 hits: 15 Most simultaneous top 40 Hot 100 hits: 21 Most simultaneous Hot 100 hits: 27 Most No. 1 hits by a Rapper: 11 Biggest Streaming Week on the Billboard 200: 745.9M (Scorpion) Most No. 1 hits on the Mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart: 43 Most No. 1 hits on the Rap Airplay chart: 39 Most No. 1 hits on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart: 26 Most No. 1 hits on the R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart: 28 Most No. 1 hits on the Hot Rap Songs chart: 27 Most No. 1 hits on the Rhythmic Airplay chart: 36 Most No. 1 hits on the Streaming Songs chart: 15 Only solo act with 3 or more songs which have each spent at least 10 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100 Only solo male act with over 50 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100 (54 weeks) Only solo act with 11 No. 1 hits on the Hot 100 and 11 No. 1 albums on the Billboard 200 Artist of the 2010s decade
On the May 23, 2009 chart, Drake scored his first entry on the Hot 100 with “Best I Ever Had.” He has charted for a total of 680 out of the 704 total chart weeks since then.
Drake's Hot 100 consecutive runs: May 23, 2009 (Best I Ever Had) - August 19, 2017 (Passionfruit) — 431 weeks February 3, 2018 (God's Plan) - September 4, 2021 (Betrayal) — 188 weeks September 18, 2021 (Way 2 Sexy) - April 30, 2022 (P Power) — 33 weeks May 14, 2022 (Wait 4 U) - now — 28 weeks (and counting)
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 14, 2022 18:45:53 GMT -5
I don't hate Taylor for playing the system, but Billboard probably should've cut sales last summer after "Butter" sat at #1 for 10 weeks. I think they shouldn't count other versions (Hotter, Cooler, Lonely witch, dancing witch...), instrumentals and remixes (only count if it's official or something). |
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Post by mikerivera on Nov 14, 2022 18:54:02 GMT -5
I don't hate Taylor for playing the system, but Billboard probably should've cut sales last summer after "Butter" sat at #1 for 10 weeks. I think they shouldn't count other versions (Hotter, Cooler, Lonely witch, dancing witch...), instrumentals and remixes (only count if it's official or something). So…don’t count the Billy Ray Cyrus version of Old Town Road? The one that got most of the radio play and both of the videos, but was still a remix? I know he released of ton of other remixes afterwards that were just meant to the get the record, but how do you differentiate between those and the first BCR remix that most people think of with that song |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 14, 2022 19:05:55 GMT -5
I think they shouldn't count other versions (Hotter, Cooler, Lonely witch, dancing witch...), instrumentals and remixes (only count if it's official or something). So…don’t count the Billy Ray Cyrus version of Old Town Road? The one that got most of the radio play and both of the videos, but was still a remix? I know he released of ton of other remixes afterwards that were just meant to the get the record, but how do you differentiate between those and the first BCR remix that most people think of with that song I said official, so yeah, I'd count Billy's version, Ariana's for Save Your Tears, Kanye's for E.T. Bieber's for Despacito, Sean Paul's for Cheap Thrills... |
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Post by kimberly on Nov 14, 2022 19:32:27 GMT -5
Drake loves "Unholy" by Sam Smith & Kim Petras, confirmed. an ALLY! twerks to *21, can you do something for meeeee* |
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Post by 85la on Nov 14, 2022 19:54:50 GMT -5
So…don’t count the Billy Ray Cyrus version of Old Town Road? The one that got most of the radio play and both of the videos, but was still a remix? I know he released of ton of other remixes afterwards that were just meant to the get the record, but how do you differentiate between those and the first BCR remix that most people think of with that song I said official, so yeah, I'd count Billy's version, Ariana's for Save Your Tears, Kanye's for E.T. Bieber's for Despacito, Sean Paul's for Cheap Thrills... You still didn't seem to answer their question though of how you differentiate "official versions" of songs. It seems like you're saying the ones that receive major promotion and radio pushes. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 14, 2022 20:03:50 GMT -5
Drake loves "Unholy" by Sam Smith & Kim Petras, confirmed. an ALLY! twerks to *21, can you do something for meeeee*Funny enough Swifties were getting revenge by covering up all of Drake's tracks and only keeping Ant-Hero, but they also covered Unholy for some reason  |
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Nov 14, 2022 20:16:09 GMT -5
Taylor owes absolutely nothing to Drake… what has he ever done for her? The charts are supposed to be competitive and a reflection of the most popular songs for that week. Does Drake think he deserves #1 based on his status or because his peers will just roll over to him? Taylor didn’t post petty s**t when Old Town Road outplaced her two singles… On a different note, was everyone crying this hard when Lil Nas X released 101 remixes of OTR to beat the record for most weeks at #1? Was thegreatdivine in shambles? Just curious. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 14, 2022 20:24:32 GMT -5
The only time I can recall there being such an intense reaction to remixes was Willow and BTS
Usually the reaction is “lol one week boost who cares”
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Post by Darkest Hour on Nov 14, 2022 20:31:41 GMT -5
The follow-up post mentions decrease in weight of radio and increase in weight of streaming. This is supported by Something In The Orange (streaming heavy and got country streaming gainer) ranking higher than Wasted On You (much more radio than SITO) on Hot Country Songs chart this week despite the predictions saying otherwise. |
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Post by David on Nov 14, 2022 20:35:10 GMT -5
Ohhh, so Drake cares about the charts, too. Not enough to ever do anything to game the charts in his favor, though, which is really what matters. I bet his team told him about the shenanigans Taylor pulled to hold on to the #1 spot this week and that's his reaction to that. Drake definitely cares about #1's... I don't think he would have as many as he does if he (and his team) didn't care to some extent. Taylor was just obviously prepared once "Anti-Hero" needed a boost. And, honestly, if I were in her shoes I likely would have done the same thing... especially with him releasing his album so close to mine. Just my opinion. |
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Post by David on Nov 14, 2022 20:38:56 GMT -5
Taylor owes absolutely nothing to Drake… what has he ever done for her? The charts are supposed to be competitive and a reflection of the most popular songs for that week. Does Drake think he deserves #1 based on his status or because his peers will just roll over to him? Taylor didn’t post petty s**t when Old Town Road outplaced her two singles… On a different note, was everyone crying this hard when Lil Nas X released 101 remixes of OTR to beat the record for most weeks at #1? Was thegreatdivine in shambles? Just curious. Honestly, I was a bit of a baby when OTR beat OSD's record... but please know I've been a lamb for going on 30 years, LOL. I was sad when that record was broken but I have to give Lil Nas X credit in that he's gone on to have a good career after OTR. On another note, I think Drake seems like an immature dude. With that said, "Passionfruit" is one of my all-time favorite songs. He has some great material. |
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Post by chartfreak on Nov 14, 2022 20:44:06 GMT -5
I don’t listen to much Taylor Swift and haven’t heard any of the new album or the remixes, but if my fave artist released a bunch of remixes and I liked them, I’d be excited just to have the music. For all the talk of chart manipulation, this is also a case of people just buying music they like… which is kind of the point of what the charts are supposed to measure. I always thought the BTS stuff was kind of sad because a lot of it was mass buying of stuff that these fans already had (nobody needed 100 digital copies of the same track). But Taylor (and most of the other artists releasing extra remixes) are actually giving fans new music. If chart rules inspire artists to create more remixes that fans can enjoy, I’d count that as a good thing. A lot of remixes are great! Exactly, majority of fans in general are not crazy chart freaks like us. In regards to Drake, looks like his feelings are hurt. |
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Post by imbuemyblue on Nov 14, 2022 20:51:56 GMT -5
While I still dislike the chart tactics, seeing that insane number just makes me like, 'you know what? I guess she does deserve it this week'. If Rihanna had managed that for 'LMU' last week I would have thought the same. This wasn't exactly some squeaker of a race. Still, a rule change wouldn't be the worst thing.
One thing I find interesting is that when these weeks happen, people are upset about the games but usually not the artist. I don't remember people saying Rihanna or BTS are garbage humans. Seems to be unique to Taylor.
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Post by cooper on Nov 14, 2022 21:04:25 GMT -5
While I still dislike the chart tactics, seeing that insane number just makes me like, 'you know what? I guess she does deserve it this week'. If Rihanna had managed that for 'LMU' last week I would have thought the same. This wasn't exactly some squeaker of a race. Still, a rule change wouldn't be the worst thing. One thing I find interesting is that when these weeks happen, people are upset about the games but usually not the artist. I don't remember people saying Rihanna or BTS are garbage humans. Seems to be unique to Taylor. That’s just not true. If anything, other artists receive way more hate for doing these “games” than Taylor. Taylor gets off pretty easy because of her white privilege unfortunately tbh |
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Post by imbuemyblue on Nov 14, 2022 21:09:10 GMT -5
To clarify, I meant in this forum, not at large (I agree that on Twitter it's different and race is a major factor).
I could be wrong, but I don't remember people on this forum last week saying negative things about Rihanna personally or her individual character; rather it was all about the tactics that were related to her song. Same goes for BTS last year. There seems to be an assumption that certain artists are directly involved in the chart manipulations while others are not, and I'm not really sure how people decide which way it goes.
The fact that your 4 posts thus far are all just to drag Taylor kinda proves my point....
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 14, 2022 21:10:50 GMT -5
Are we supposed to believe she suddenly added 17 shows due to demand? Lol. Clearly she'd already booked those places. |
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 14, 2022 21:15:28 GMT -5
Nice to see Taylor Swift get an 3rd week at #1 with Anti-Hero. It looks like the rest of the album tracks are dropping as expected. I’m sure the 2nd single will do well whenever that gets released.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 14, 2022 21:18:01 GMT -5
Not enough to ever do anything to game the charts in his favor, though, which is really what matters. I bet his team told him about the shenanigans Taylor pulled to hold on to the #1 spot this week and that's his reaction to that. Drake definitely cares about #1's... I don't think he would have as many as he does if he (and his team) didn't care to some extent. Taylor was just obviously prepared once "Anti-Hero" needed a boost. And, honestly, if I were in her shoes I likely would have done the same thing... especially with him releasing his album so close to mine. Just my opinion. Then why didn't Drake release any music videos or have any radio deals or anything for this album? He literally didn't push any song/single. We can also go back to situations like "Hotline Bling" where he could have had a #1 if he really wanted. To clarify, I meant in this forum, not at large (I agree that on Twitter it's different and race is a major factor). I could be wrong, but I don't remember people on this forum last week saying negative things about Rihanna personally or her individual character; rather it was all about the tactics that were related to her song. Same goes for BTS last year. There seems to be an assumption that certain artists are directly involved in the chart manipulations while others are not, and I'm not really sure how people decide which way it goes. Some of that could be because people recognize Taylor is involved in her career; in a way it's a compliment because not "blaming" her would actually be saying other people are controlling her career. Plus she has to be making all of these remixes, whereas one could say Rihanna isn't directly involved with different single covers and whatever else went on there (I'm not saying she wasn't aware, I'm just saying an artist making 23 separate remixes of all their lead singles shows a real involvement on their part). |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 14, 2022 21:18:52 GMT -5
Not enough to ever do anything to game the charts in his favor, though, which is really what matters. I bet his team told him about the shenanigans Taylor pulled to hold on to the #1 spot this week and that's his reaction to that. Drake definitely cares about #1's... I don't think he would have as many as he does if he (and his team) didn't care to some extent. Taylor was just obviously prepared once "Anti-Hero" needed a boost. And, honestly, if I were in her shoes I likely would have done the same thing... especially with him releasing his album so close to mine. Just my opinion. Hate to be the one to tell you, but Drake simply releasing music and having said music do damage on the charts /= him caring about the charts. Drake has always been a prolific artist, before he was ever signed to a major record label and before the streaming era. Before the streaming era took off, he'd release free songs on SoundCloud for fans every now and then in batches of 3/4 songs (to the anger of his record label, who'd always try to take the songs down). Streaming just made it easier for him to share that music with even more people and that's all you're seeing with his output rate today. All Drake does is release his music and go about his day. The most he'll do following the release of a new full-length project is to service a song off it to radio/release a music video for that song. That's it. He has never used any of the several chart manipulation tactics to give himself a leg up on the charts — ever. Never used bundles. Doesn't do radio deals. Doesn't release remixes clearly aimed to boost the position of a song on the charts. Never did the "deluxe" thing where an artist drops enough songs for a whole other album. These are all things other artists in his position have done that he's either lightly mocked in songs or in interviews. To your point ificanthaveyou, you're right. Taylor doesn't owe Drake anything and the charts ARE meant to be competitive. I don't think Drake imagines that she owes him anything. He just peeped the EXTRA length she had to go to just to secure the #1 spot and that's likely what rubbed him the wrong way (and he's not wrong for feeling that way, especially considering the fact that Anti-Hero is a hit and would have easily returned to #1 the following week). I know some Swifties who feel the same way so I don't know why you or anyone else is acting like Drake is a monster for feeling the way he likely felt. With all that being said, it's not that deep. This isn't the first time a Drake song peaked at #2 because it was blocked by another song (Best I Ever Had, Hotline Bling & Laugh Now Cry Later are all huge Drake hits that peaked at #2 because they were blocked by another song) so I know Drake isn't losing sleep over it but I fully expect every Taylor fan to do the most with his IG stories post because of course. Congratulations to Taylor and congratulations to Drake. |
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