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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 7, 2023 17:05:32 GMT -5
Is Morgan Wallen officially the biggest The Voice alumnus or any act from an American reality singing contest? I'm just curious. he'll never be bigger than Kelly Clarkson, an Emmy and Grammy winner that is beloved by the entire country.  he might be bigger on the Hot 100 idc He's already bigger lol. Dangerous is bigger than any Kelly Clarkson album ever and One Thing at a Time may very well join it in those ranks. Not to talk about If I Know Me (Morgan's debut album), which, after 231 weeks on the Billboard 200, is still steady in the top 40. By the end of this decade, Morgan might have 2 or more Diamond albums to his name and as far as the Hot 100, I can only see him getting stronger there. The only concern with Morgan now is if he'll be able to sustain his fanbase and get even bigger as an artist but even if One Thing at a Time ends up being his commercial peak, as long as future albums can serve longevity the way his prior albums have, he'll be fine. |
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Mar 7, 2023 17:23:41 GMT -5
Regardless let's not disrespect the massive pop album moment that was Breakaway and its 5 hit singles. Behind These Hazel Eyes especially is THAT bitch.
The album itself still was a moment and is #77 on the all time charts for the Billboard 200.
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 7, 2023 18:23:24 GMT -5
To be fair you have to weigh down the streaming era a bit as it's much easier for an album to hang around forever via streaming and rack up a large amount of streaming sales residually. Not to say that Morgan's run isn't impressive as his longevity for his previous album has outdone most if not all of his streaming contemporaries (Drake/Taylor).
I'm hoping Miley's album does really well. Happy to see she's releasing the next single with a music video on Friday. "Violent Chemistry" sounds like an absolute bop as well based on the snippet online. I can see her going one of two ways - the album being massive and doing 200-250 million streams or a handful of tracks make a big impact with "Flowers" getting a big boost and doing a respectable 100-120 million streams. The album only has 12 tracks (13 including the "Flowers" demo) so that will work against it. Unless she releases a deluxe edition with some extra tracks during the week. Although I would love it if she's just rides the album and releases a deluxe with a new single either end of this year/beginning of next to reinvigorate the campaign. I would love it if the album has legs.
Might be hard for Miley to overcome Morgan's second week though as his physicals release next week I believe? His streaming seems to be stabilising as well - but hopefully for Miley he'll fall enough on streaming second week to let her to get to #1.
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Post by Darkest Hour on Mar 7, 2023 18:52:43 GMT -5
Might be hard for Miley to overcome Morgan's second week though as his physicals release next week I believe? Physicals are available this week, but more are coming next week (as stated in his website). From the same Billboard article with the streaming stats; |
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Post by Mayman on Mar 7, 2023 18:53:08 GMT -5
Miley is really on top of this era. I predict 500 million streams week 1. She is not doing 500 million streams with 12 tracks 😭 |
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Post by jasper0102 on Mar 7, 2023 20:16:17 GMT -5
Wow 250 million streams! Is there a possibility this beats the 450 million projection? There’s 4 days to go, maybe he could? Miley is really on top of this era. I predict 500 million streams week 1. Uhhhhhhh, since when did 12 track albums get 500 million streams in their first week? She’s not beating Morgan’s 2nd week lmao. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Mar 7, 2023 21:26:46 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson is not bigger than Morgan Wallen, lol. Morgan is in the same sentence as Taylor, Drake, and Adele. Plus Dangerous will go down as the longest running album in the Top 10 of all time. She's a bigger celebrity tho with all her TV shows and stuff.
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Post by Joe1240 on Mar 7, 2023 21:35:38 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood are still by far the most successful from American Idol.
Kelly Clarkson's most massive era was Breakaway in 2005 and that was way before streaming,You just can't compare to Morgan Wallen who has every song on his album chart to his advantage because of streaming. Different eras, different types of success plus Kelly Clarkson was having hits a majority of her career with nearly every album even the underperforming album My December got a hit out of it.
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Post by mms82 on Mar 7, 2023 21:44:22 GMT -5
Flowers got 52m first week - 500m would mean every track roughly gets flowers debut streaming on average
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Post by mms82 on Mar 7, 2023 21:45:36 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson is not bigger than Morgan Wallen, lol. Morgan is in the same sentence as Taylor, Drake, and Adele. Plus Dangerous will go down as the longest running album in the Top 10 of all time. She's a bigger celebrity tho with all her TV shows and stuff. Agreed. Season 1 Idol was a moment and she remained relevant long after her music career ended with her tv show. She’s bigger as a pop culture figure, but music wise? Morgan is hands down bigger |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Mar 7, 2023 22:03:14 GMT -5
he'll never be bigger than Kelly Clarkson, an Emmy and Grammy winner that is beloved by the entire country. he might be bigger on the Hot 100 idc He's already bigger lol. Dangerous is bigger than any Kelly Clarkson album ever and One Thing at a Time may very well join it in those ranks. Not to talk about If I Know Me (Morgan's debut album), which, after 231 weeks on the Billboard 200, is still steady in the top 40. By the end of this decade, Morgan might have 2 or more Diamond albums to his name and as far as the Hot 100, I can only see him getting stronger there. The only concern with Morgan now is if he'll be able to sustain his fanbase and get even bigger as an artist but even if One Thing at a Time ends up being his commercial peak, as long as future albums can serve longevity the way his prior albums have, he'll be fine. Already bigger? You are aware Breakaway is 6x Platinum and is probably eligible for 7x Platinum with the success of the singles, right? More importantly, she is not a racist. He has NEVER had hits as big as Since U Been Gone, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Because Of You, Breakaway, Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You), or My Life Would Suck Without You either. The revisionism in this thread is really weird, especially considering who they're defending. |
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Post by musiclife on Mar 7, 2023 22:20:24 GMT -5
He's already bigger lol. Dangerous is bigger than any Kelly Clarkson album ever and One Thing at a Time may very well join it in those ranks. Not to talk about If I Know Me (Morgan's debut album), which, after 231 weeks on the Billboard 200, is still steady in the top 40. By the end of this decade, Morgan might have 2 or more Diamond albums to his name and as far as the Hot 100, I can only see him getting stronger there. The only concern with Morgan now is if he'll be able to sustain his fanbase and get even bigger as an artist but even if One Thing at a Time ends up being his commercial peak, as long as future albums can serve longevity the way his prior albums have, he'll be fine. Already bigger? You are aware Breakaway is 6x Platinum and is probably eligible for 7x Platinum with the success of the singles, right? More importantly, she is not a racist. He has NEVER had hits as big as Since U Been Gone, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Because Of You, Breakaway, Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You), or My Life Would Suck Without You either. The revisionism in this thread is really weird, especially considering who they're defending. All they're saying is that statistically Morgan's albums have all been bigger than Kelly Clarksons. Nobody is saying Breakaway was a flop lol but Dangerous is on the verge of going diamond.. Breakaway is not. And going back to my point.. Morgan has had hits just as big as Kelly's big singles. He just didn't have pop radio support, and if he had just a few extra AI's from CHR then Last Night wouldn't be his first Hot 100 #1. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Mar 7, 2023 22:21:54 GMT -5
not My Life Would Suck Without You, lol.
Yes, she has hits of the moment. But Morgan has half the country streaming his albums nonstop for years. Literally years, and literally half the country.
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Post by musiclife on Mar 7, 2023 22:23:13 GMT -5
not My Life Would Suck Without You, lol. Yes, she has hits of the moment. But Morgan has half the country streaming his albums nonstop for years. Literally years, and literally half the country. Exactly. I love Kelly, but Morgan music wise is the biggest from any American singing competition. That doesn't take away from the fact at how huge Kelly and Carrie are. |
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Post by 85la on Mar 7, 2023 22:53:43 GMT -5
not My Life Would Suck Without You, lol. Yes, she has hits of the moment. But Morgan has half the country streaming his albums nonstop for years. Literally years, and literally half the country. Exactly. I love Kelly, but Morgan music wise is the biggest from any American singing competition. That doesn't take away from the fact at how huge Kelly and Carrie are. Um, you're wrong, now this is getting into revisionist history! See my post below.
Is Morgan Wallen officially the biggest The Voice alumnus or any act from an American reality singing contest? I'm just curious. From The Voice yes, but from any American reality singing contest? Hardly. Of the post-2000 crop of reality shows (i.e. American Idol, The Voice, The X Factor, etc.) the already-mentioned Kelly Clarkson (and possibly Carrie Underwood) are arguably bigger, however many people forget that the original run of Star Search (1983-1995) produced an unprecedented number of stars, including Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Usher, Alanis Morissette, and LeAnn Rimes. Most of those I would definitely say are bigger than Morgan (up until now at least). But let's put this to bed shall we? I think there has to be some way of quantifying "bigness," such as current SPS totals, or cumulative total points on the Billboard charts, such as Artist, Billboard 200, and Hot 100. I would think with Kelly's 9 studio albums (plus one greatest hits and one remix album) released over the last 20 years, plus 11 top 10 and 18 top 40 hits, with most of them being bigger than Morgan's biggest hits, including Since U Been Gone, Stronger, Breakaway, Behind These Hazel Eyes, etc., and which all have received significant and recurrent airplay, Kelly would come ahead, though I could be wrong. |
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Post by mms82 on Mar 7, 2023 22:59:26 GMT -5
Exactly. I love Kelly, but Morgan music wise is the biggest from any American singing competition. That doesn't take away from the fact at how huge Kelly and Carrie are.
Um, you're worng, now this is getting into revisionist history! See my post below.
From The Voice yes, but from any American reality singing contest? Hardly. Of the post-2000 crop of reality shows (i.e. American Idol, The Voice, The X Factor, etc.) the already-mentioned Kelly Clarkson (and possibly Carrie Underwood) are arguably bigger, however many people forget that the original run of Star Search (1983-1995) produced an unprecedented number of stars, including Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Usher, Alanis Morissette, and LeAnn Rimes. Most of those I would definitely say are bigger than Morgan (up until now at least).
But let's put this to bed shall we? I think there has to be some way of quantifying "bigness," such as current SPS totals, or cumulative total points on the Billboard charts, such as Artist, Billboard 200, and Hot 100. I would think with Kelly's 9 studio albums (plus one greatest hits and one remix album) released over the last 20 years, plus 11 top 10 and 18 top 40 hits, with most of them being bigger than Morgan's biggest hits, including Since U Been Gone, Stronger, Breakaway, Behind These Hazel Eyes, etc., and which all have received significant and recurrent airplay, Kelly would come ahead, though I could be wrong. I mean… the fact that it’s not a guarantee that Kelly Clarkson would come out ahead combining her 9 albums over Morgan’s 3 albums shows that Morgan is the bigger music artist. That being said, Kelly Clarkson is still hands down more relevant to pop culture with AI season 1 and her talk show (and I don’t see a world even with more mega albums from Wallen where that changes), and I say that as a big Morgan Wallen fan |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Mar 7, 2023 23:20:05 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson is a household name to the General Public and widely associated with launching AI.
I didn't even know MW was on The Voice until Saturday and I follow music pretty closely. TV, with its failure to produce stars like the ones mentioned previously, isn't the same as AI in the eyes of the GP.
That said, MW is on the verge of potentially breaking far beyond Country with his recent crossover success. Why the label skipped sending You Proof to Pop radio is perplexing.
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Post by pnobelysk on Mar 7, 2023 23:47:45 GMT -5
I’m enjoying the Kelly talk. I think something to also keep in mind is that Kelly is/ was a worldwide superstar.
Specifically the breakaway album between the Us And the Uk sold 8 million albums. The five breakaway singles (especially the first) were top 20/top 10 hits in numerous countries. Morgan’s success is a lot more US based. She also had a bunch of worldwide hits and nabbed herself the one of the most successful Christmas songs since all I want for Christmas is you. His albums may outperform her, but even just looking at the success of her singles, I think her stats are superior to his. She’s really the only idol to have such a massive worldwide career.
Carrie I think could be more heavily debated since shes so much more US focused
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Post by kimberly on Mar 7, 2023 23:59:21 GMT -5
I mean… the fact that it’s not a guarantee that Kelly Clarkson would come out ahead combining her 9 albums over Morgan’s 3 albums shows that Morgan is the bigger music artist. That being said, Kelly Clarkson is still hands down more relevant to pop culture with AI season 1 and her talk show (and I don’t see a world even with more mega albums from Wallen where that changes), and I say that as a big Morgan Wallen fan important distinction: this is only plausible if we're considering the US only. so "bigger in the US" -- not the "bigger music artist." so far, Morgan Wallen has certified music consumption in the US & Canada. "Last Night" is his first song to become a hit outside of this region, reaching the Top 10 in Australia. compare that to someone like Kelly Clarkson, whose music topped the charts in the US, Canada, Australia, the UK, Ireland, Brazil, Germany, Denmark, Venezuela, Hungary, Poland, Sweden, Japan, Italy... the list goes on. there's really no doubt about who's the bigger artist overall. (even in the US, if I went outside and asked people about them, I'm 99.9% sure more people would recognize Kelly's face, know her name, and be able to name a song, or recognize one of her songs. though I can't prove this. globally it would be simply embarrassing to compare her to him, a relative unknown.) ETA: pnobelysk said it while I was doing my fact-checking 😂 |
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Post by Music Fan on Mar 8, 2023 1:07:57 GMT -5
^Wow at his consistency on AM. Anyone have any insights as to Drake's song positions on AM throughout his debut weeks for any of his recent releases? Does Morgan actually come close to Drake?
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Post by musiclife on Mar 8, 2023 1:36:05 GMT -5
Exactly. I love Kelly, but Morgan music wise is the biggest from any American singing competition. That doesn't take away from the fact at how huge Kelly and Carrie are. Um, you're wrong, now this is getting into revisionist history! See my post below.
From The Voice yes, but from any American reality singing contest? Hardly. Of the post-2000 crop of reality shows (i.e. American Idol, The Voice, The X Factor, etc.) the already-mentioned Kelly Clarkson (and possibly Carrie Underwood) are arguably bigger, however many people forget that the original run of Star Search (1983-1995) produced an unprecedented number of stars, including Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Usher, Alanis Morissette, and LeAnn Rimes. Most of those I would definitely say are bigger than Morgan (up until now at least). But let's put this to bed shall we? I think there has to be some way of quantifying "bigness," such as current SPS totals, or cumulative total points on the Billboard charts, such as Artist, Billboard 200, and Hot 100. I would think with Kelly's 9 studio albums (plus one greatest hits and one remix album) released over the last 20 years, plus 11 top 10 and 18 top 40 hits, with most of them being bigger than Morgan's biggest hits, including Since U Been Gone, Stronger, Breakaway, Behind These Hazel Eyes, etc., and which all have received significant and recurrent airplay, Kelly would come ahead, though I could be wrong. Again he doesn't have pop radio play. He just has country play. If he had a quarter of the mainstream appeal that Kelly did his numbers this week would be well over a million in sales. He is doing all this as a country artist which does not happen. His appear with the country fanbase generally makes him like he's the Drake of country music. She is a bigger celebrity yes, but he is a bigger musician. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 8, 2023 1:48:51 GMT -5
He's already bigger lol. Dangerous is bigger than any Kelly Clarkson album ever and One Thing at a Time may very well join it in those ranks. Not to talk about If I Know Me (Morgan's debut album), which, after 231 weeks on the Billboard 200, is still steady in the top 40. By the end of this decade, Morgan might have 2 or more Diamond albums to his name and as far as the Hot 100, I can only see him getting stronger there. The only concern with Morgan now is if he'll be able to sustain his fanbase and get even bigger as an artist but even if One Thing at a Time ends up being his commercial peak, as long as future albums can serve longevity the way his prior albums have, he'll be fine. Already bigger? You are aware Breakaway is 6x Platinum and is probably eligible for 7x Platinum with the success of the singles, right? More importantly, she is not a racist. He has NEVER had hits as big as Since U Been Gone, Behind These Hazel Eyes, Because Of You, Breakaway, Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You), or My Life Would Suck Without You either. The revisionism in this thread is really weird, especially considering who they're defending. Yes, already bigger. Dangerous has moved over 6M units in the US in just 2 years and will most certainly be crossing the 10M mark by 2025. I don't know why you're getting in your feelings. What does Kelly Clarkson never being caught on camera saying the N word like Morgan was have to do with anything?
Nobody is "defending" anything. We're just stating facts. Morgan is a bigger act than Kelly Clarkson. It's not revisionism.
Congratulations to Kelly Clarkson and her hits. Morgan has hits of his own and he's a bigger commercial force than she ever was. It is what it is. I mean… the fact that it’s not a guarantee that Kelly Clarkson would come out ahead combining her 9 albums over Morgan’s 3 albums shows that Morgan is the bigger music artist. That being said, Kelly Clarkson is still hands down more relevant to pop culture with AI season 1 and her talk show (and I don’t see a world even with more mega albums from Wallen where that changes), and I say that as a big Morgan Wallen fan important distinction: this is only plausible if we're considering the US only. so "bigger in the US" -- not the "bigger music artist." so far, Morgan Wallen has certified music consumption in the US & Canada. "Last Night" is his first song to become a hit outside of this region, reaching the Top 10 in Australia. compare that to someone like Kelly Clarkson, whose music topped the charts in the US, Canada, Australia, the UK, Ireland, Brazil, Germany, Denmark, Venezuela, Hungary, Poland, Sweden, Japan, Italy... the list goes on. there's really no doubt about who's the bigger artist overall. (even in the US, if I went outside and asked people about them, I'm 99.9% sure more people would recognize Kelly's face, know her name, and be able to name a song, or recognize one of her songs. though I can't prove this. globally it would be simply embarrassing to compare her to him, a relative unknown.) ETA: pnobelysk said it while I was doing my fact-checking 😂 Well, isn't it generally assumed that all discussions had in the Billboard Hot 100/Billboard 200 threads are US-focused, seeing as those are charts that are US-based? Kelly Clarkson is a pop singer and she's been one her entire career. Are we really gonna compare a woman who saw most of her success in the early to mid 2000s when radio weighed a lot more on the Hot 100 than it does today and when pop music was what dominated radio? Even till now, no other genre has the share of listenership or radio impressions pop radio has. Of course she has bigger chart hits than Morgan Wallen (for now, anyways). And as far as being recognized by the average US-citizen, Kelly Clarkson was the winner of the first season of American Idol — a show that went on to become a staple in the US for the next 20 years. Not to mention that she dropped her debut album in 2003 and has basically been rooted in the American subconscious since then. Morgan is a country act who blew up in the middle of a global pandemic and hasn't really had a chance to tour and get his name out there and even when he gets to do that, him being a country act means that most people still won't know who he is years down the line. Most certainly not as much as they know Kelly Clarkson who is not only a famous musician but is also now a famous talk show host. ^Wow at his consistency on AM. Anyone have any insights as to Drake's song positions on AM throughout his debut weeks for any of his recent releases? Does Morgan actually come close to Drake? Scorpion, CLB and Her Loss were all still firmly rooted in the top 20/30 of US Apple Music by the end of their debut weeks. It's also worth noting that for as strong as Morgan is on Apple Music, what's really helping his numbers is the fact that he has 36 songs on his album. While Morgan isn't close to being as strong as Drake is on Apple Music, it's definitely intriguing to see a 36-track album perform this well on the platform. The most songs Drake has ever had on an album is 25 songs but that performed better on Apple Music than Morgan's album currently is. |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Mar 8, 2023 2:07:26 GMT -5
It's also absolutely absurd to say he's bigger considering her peak was in the sales era and the latter is in the streaming era. Basically comparing apples & oranges.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 8, 2023 2:32:07 GMT -5
Not really. People will always compare artists across eras and generations. The only thing we can do is to offer context to the various eras when making comparisons and having discussions.
It's not Kelly's fault she was born 11 years earlier than Morgan and had her career kick off way earlier than his did. It's also not Morgan's fault he was born later than Kelly and had his career kick off in the streaming era.
With that being said, I'm tired of seeing people act like the streaming era is so easy for artists to dominate. It isn't. If it was, we'd have a lot more artists being dominant. There are pros and cons to every era of music consumption, whether that be the physical era, the digital sales era or the streaming era.
For instance, during the prominence of the physical/digital sales eras, listeners were a lot more willing to spend money on music and boy did they spend. Enough to make various artists earn Diamond-certified albums and for some artists, multiple Diamond-certified albums. That isn't happening nearly as easily today because you'd need to amass billions upon billions of streams to get anywhere close to having an album move enough units to be eligible for a Diamond certification.
It should also be said that even the US music market is now a lot more global in nature than it used to be pre-streaming era, so now you have Latin acts, Korean acts and African acts competing with US acts who at most only had to compete with Canadian acts in the past. Add that to the general massive increase of artists in the world today and music being released and it's never been harder to gain the listenership of music lovers and the cherry on top is that musicians are deeply-embedded in an era that counts the number of streams to account for music sales so good luck to you if you can't get people to consistently listen to your music over an extended period of time.
Yes, the streaming era allows for every song off an album to chart on the Hot 100 but some of you act like that's a given for everyone when it isn't. We all know how hard it is to get even one song to chart on the Hot 100; getting multiple to do so just means you have the pull to do so and only some of the biggest artists can pull it off. Chris Brown dropped Heartbreak on a Full Moon (45 songs) and Indigo (43 songs) and was only able to get 7 and 4 songs off those albums to chart on the Hot 100 respectively. Go figure.
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Post by musiclife on Mar 8, 2023 2:44:17 GMT -5
The fact that Morgan has so many people pressed shows how big he really is. To think of a country singer getting #1 on the hot 100 and to now have one of the most streamed albums of all times shows his influence. There isn't anyone in the country game like him honestly. It's actually amazing to watch and see. I really hope Last Night continues the huge success it's having.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Mar 8, 2023 3:07:02 GMT -5
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Envoirment
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 8, 2023 8:10:51 GMT -5
Certainly wasn't expecting the thread to devolve into Kelly Vs Morgan.
It's a shame Apple Music don't publicly publish their numbers. I'd be interested to see just how many streams Morgan is doing.
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Gary
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Post by Gary on Mar 8, 2023 8:30:17 GMT -5
Kelly v Morgan is apples and oranges.
Different genres and even different areas of entertainment.
In the here and now, Morgan Wallen is clearly the biggest star in music. Beyond that, the comparisons don't mean much. As far as the biggest star in entertainment is...who knows.
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