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Post by Gary on Jun 12, 2023 12:53:22 GMT -5
Well because of demand for the music. Biggest star in the country at the time of the "incident". That "incident" would have likely impacted a lesser artist more though.
He (and Taylor Swift) remain the biggest stars in music today.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 12, 2023 13:07:13 GMT -5
Morgan was able to dodge the controversy because he kept his head down and stayed out of headlines since the incident, and a lot of the fanbase he picked up over the last year didn't even know/remember the incident. At the same time his fanbase and country fans in general likely don't care about him spouting the N word so it didn't hurt him. His dumb fans were literally yelling "let's go brandon" at his shows, they don't exactly seem the type to get offended when racist language is used.
I don't like that he said it or support it and I personally find his music dreadfully boring and don't understand why he's so popular. And this is gonna be controversial, but when we have people like Chris Brown are still sitting around making hits, it's hard to keep pushing back at Wallen for something he said 2 years ago. At some point you have to get over it or make peace with it.
That being said, Last Night is one of the worst #1 singles of the decade and it's time for something to unseat it.
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Post by neel on Jun 12, 2023 13:19:38 GMT -5
Morgan was able to dodge the controversy because he kept his head down and stayed out of headlines since the incident, and a lot of the fanbase he picked up over the last year didn't even know/remember the incident. At the same time his fanbase and country fans in general likely don't care about him spouting the N word so it didn't hurt him. His dumb fans were literally yelling "let's go brandon" at his shows, they don't exactly seem the type to get offended when racist language is used. I don't like that he said it or support it and I personally find his music dreadfully boring and don't understand why he's so popular. And this is gonna be controversial, but when we have people like Chris Brown are still sitting around making hits, it's hard to keep pushing back at Wallen for something he said 2 years ago. At some point you have to get over it or make peace with it. That being said, Last Night is one of the worst #1 singles of the decade and it's time for something to unseat it. Permanently unseat it, because if one song just knocks it down for 1 or 2 weeks(or even 3 weeks) it rises up. Especially with it gaining on radio and the long lifespan country radio will give it alone. I really hope this song never gets close to the discussion of it coming for Lil Nas's X record, or never comes near "One Sweet Day" and "Despacito". "Last Night" is definitely not the song that deserves to be #1 for 12-19 weeks.
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Post by Music Fan on Jun 12, 2023 14:13:40 GMT -5
I think Last Night will def be a twelve week #1. This week will already be its tenth. Would love if it went longer, but no other recent country song has accomplished what this song has, so I'm content with whatever it continues to get.
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Post by Groovy on Jun 12, 2023 14:29:50 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 12, 2023 14:51:49 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/morgan-wallen-last-night-luke-combs-fast-car-hot-100-to-10-1235351650/Morgan Wallen’s ‘Last Night’ Leads Hot 100 for 10th Week, Luke Combs’ ‘Fast Car’ Hits Top FiveBy Gary Trust 06/12/2023 Morgan Wallen’s “Last Night” achieves a 10th week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart. It becomes the 44th song since the Hot 100 began in August 1958 to reign for 10 or more weeks, out of 1,149 total No. 1s – an achievement that only 4% of all leaders have attained. Plus, Luke Combs’ cover of Tracy Chapman’s classic “Fast Car” keeps on driving, advancing from No. 8 to No. 4 on the Hot 100. The song surpasses the No. 6 peak in 1988 of Chapman’s original – and, combined with Wallen’s “Last Night,” makes for two simultaneous top five country hits for the first time since 2000. The Hot 100 blends all-genre U.S. streaming (official audio and official video), radio airplay and sales data. All charts (dated June 17, 2023) will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (June 13). For all chart news, you can follow billboard and billboardcharts on both Twitter and Instagram. Wallen’s “Last Night,” released on Big Loud/Mercury/Republic Records, drew 68.8 million radio airplay audience impressions (up 4%) and 31 million streams (down 6%) and sold 8,000 downloads (down 6%) in the June 2-8 tracking week, according to Luminate. The song, which initially led the Hot 100 in March, becoming Wallen’s first leader on the list, adds a 12th week at No. 1 on the Streaming Songs chart; holds at its No. 4 high on Radio Songs; and rebounds 6-4 on Digital Song Sales, following a week on top. Additionally, “Last Night” tops Billboard’s Hot Country Songs chart, which employs the same multi-metric methodology as the Hot 100, for an 18th week – tying for the 10th-longest command since the chart became an all-encompassing genre survey in October 1958. Wallen is the only soloist with two of the 10 longest-leading Hot Country Songs hits in that span, as his “You Proof” amassed 19 weeks on top in 2022. “Last Night” concurrently leads the Country Airplay chart for a sixth week and holds at its No. 10 best on the Pop Airplay chart. It became Wallen’s ninth No. 1 on the former and his first top 10 on the latter list. “Last Night” is also the hottest hit on Billboard’s Songs of the Summer chart, which returned a week earlier. Miley Cyrus’ “Flowers” lifts 3-2 on the Hot 100, after eight weeks at No. 1 beginning upon its debut in January. It posts a 17th week atop Radio Songs (87 million in audience, essentially even week-over-week). The track now solely boasts the third-longest reign since Radio Songs began in December 1990 – and claims outright the longest domination for a song by a woman. Most Weeks at No. 1 on Radio Songs: 26, “Blinding Lights,” The Weeknd, 2020 18, “Iris,” Goo Goo Dolls, 1998 17, “Flowers,” Miley Cyrus, 2023 16, “Girls Like You,” Maroon 5 feat. Cardi B, 2018 16, “We Belong Together,” Mariah Carey, 2005 16, “Don’t Speak,” No Doubt, 1996-97 15, “Easy On Me,” Adele, 2021-22 Rema and Selena Gomez’s “Calm Down” rises to a new No. 3 Hot 100 high, from No. 5. (It reaches the top three in its 40th week on the chart, the fifth-longest ascent to the region; Glass Animals’ “Heat Waves” took a record 51 weeks to the top three in 2021-22.) “Calm Down” also tops the Billboard U.S. Afrobeats Songs chart for a 41st week, extending the longest reign since the ranking began over a year ago (in partnership with music festival and global brand Afro Nation). Luke Combs’ cover of Tracy Chapman’s “Fast Car” accelerates to a new No. 4 Hot 100 high. The song bests the No. 6 peak, in August 1988, of Chapman’s original. Three weeks ago, Combs’ version became the 16th remake of an ‘80s Hot 100 top 10 to also reach the tier. As his has now charted higher than Chapman’s, of those 16 such double-ups, covers have peaked higher than originals in only five cases. Notably, Chapman, who solely wrote “Fast Car,” appears in the Hot 100’s top five with a second hit as a songwriter: “Give Me One Reason,” which she also penned solo, and which became her other top 10 as a recording artist, hit No. 3 in June 1996. Combs adds his second top five Hot 100 hit, after “Forever After All” debuted at its No. 2 peak in November 2020. “Fast Car” wins the Hot 100’s top Airplay Gainer award for a third consecutive week (34.2 million, up 30%). As previously reported, it hits the Country Airplay top 10 and ranks in the top 25 on Adult Contemporary, Adult Pop Airplay and Pop Airplay. The song is also up 1% to 20.2 million streams and 4% to 9,000 sold. Meanwhile, with Wallen’s “Last Night” at No. 1 and Combs’ “Fast Car” parked at No. 4, two country hits (as defined by titles that have hit Billboard’s Hot Country Songs chart, where they currently place at Nos. 1 and 2, respectively) rank in the Hot 100’s top five simultaneously for the first time in over 23 years: for eight weeks in February-April 2000, Lonestar’s “Amazed” and Faith Hill’s “Breathe” shared space in the top five. (Before that, such tandems had not occurred since September 1981, when Juice Newton’s “Queen of Hearts” and Ronnie Milsap’s “[There’s] No Gettin’ Over Me” ranked in the top five together.) A pair of country songs appearing in the Hot 100’s top five for the first time in nearly a quarter-century continues the genre’s surge this year; as analyzed by Hit Songs Deconstructed, country tied pop as the most prominent primary genres in the chart’s top 10 in Q1 2023, marking country’s best such showing in over a decade. Lil Durk’s “All My Life,” featuring J. Cole, dips 4-5 on the Hot 100, three weeks after it launched at its No. 2 high. It tops the multi-metric Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs for a third week each. SZA’s “Kill Bill” keeps at No. 6 on the Hot 100, after it became her first No. 1, for a week in April. It leads the multi-metric Hot R&B Songs chart for a 25th week. Toosii’s “Favorite Song” rebounds 9-7 on the Hot 100, after hitting No. 5. Eslabon Armado and Peso Pluma’s “Ella Baila Sola” retreats 7-8 on the Hot 100, after reaching No. 4 – the best rank ever for a regional Mexican song. It posts a 10th week at No. 1 on the multi-metric Hot Latin Songs chart. Metro Boomin, The Weeknd and 21 Savage’s “Creepin’ ” repeats at No. 9 on the Hot 100, after hitting No. 3, and, rounding out the top 10, Taylor Swift’s “Karma,” featuring Ice Spice, falls to No. 10 from its No. 2 high, a week after it vaulted (from No. 27) following the first week of tracking after the release of its remix with Ice Spice. Still, “Karma” hits the Radio Songs top 10 (12-7; 45.6 million, up 19%), becoming Swift’s 18th top 10, as she ties for the seventh-best sum (Rihanna leads with 30), and Ice Spice’s second. Luminate, the independent data provider to the Billboard charts, completes a thorough review of all data submissions used in compiling the weekly chart rankings. Luminate reviews and authenticates data. In partnership with Billboard, data deemed suspicious or unverifiable is removed, using established criteria, before final chart calculations are made and published.
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Post by renfield75 on Jun 12, 2023 14:57:48 GMT -5
Luke Combs having the highest charting version of "Fast Car" is like Glee having the highest charting "Don't Stop Believin'" or Ritt Momney having the biggest version of "Put Your Records On". I actually like Luke's version but that just doesn't seem right.
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Post by mms82 on Jun 12, 2023 15:01:57 GMT -5
Luke Combs having the highest charting version of "Fast Car" is like Glee having the highest charting "Don't Stop Believin'" or Ritt Momney having the biggest version of "Put Your Records On". I actually like Luke's version but that just doesn't seem right. I agree - although those are all songs that have had significantly more longevity than in the moment vitality. (Also my hottest take is that I like the Ritt Momney version more, I know that’s wrong lol)
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Post by gs on Jun 12, 2023 15:19:45 GMT -5
I think Last Night will def be a twelve week #1. This week will already be its tenth. Would love if it went longer, but no other recent country song has accomplished what this song has, so I'm content with whatever it continues to get. Unless Olivia's song is a huge smash hit, or Taylor has some kind of viral track from SNTV, I see it beating As It Was' solo record easily, and OTR is not too safe either I fear. Remember that a lot of As It Was' weeks at #1 were super weak in the 210-230 range, so it basically just has to hold on by a thread and not get blocked by a big smash as AIW managed unscathed
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Post by Gary on Jun 12, 2023 15:41:40 GMT -5
On Fast Car and others
As we know - direct comparisons of peaks across different charts and especially different eras are basically meaningless
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Post by Music Fan on Jun 12, 2023 15:44:16 GMT -5
I think Last Night will def be a twelve week #1. This week will already be its tenth. Would love if it went longer, but no other recent country song has accomplished what this song has, so I'm content with whatever it continues to get. Unless Olivia's song is a huge smash hit, or Taylor has some kind of viral track from SNTV, I see it beating As It Was' solo record easily, and OTR is not too safe either I fear. Remember that a lot of As It Was' weeks at #1 were super weak in the 210-230 range, so it basically just has to hold on by a thread and not get blocked by a big smash as AIW managed unscathed Right. Isn't Olivia rumored to release June 30? And Taylor on July 7? That still gives Morgan three more tracking weeks -- which could actually bring him up to 13 weeks at #1.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jun 12, 2023 15:51:57 GMT -5
Did the Ice Spice remix really contribute 50%+ points to Karma this past tracking week? Unless radio has replaced OG, I just don't see how that credit is earned.
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Post by wavey. on Jun 12, 2023 15:53:22 GMT -5
Whats so crazy is that the album had a positive effect after that. Is what it is I guess. Even DaBaby is slowly getting a hit again after what he said(initally shxt went bad for him, but it NEVER went bad for Wallen🤷🏾) I wouldn’t say never went bad. Some country stations banned him for a bit. All awards shows banned him during that time. But the backlash didn’t last that long. That was a like a slap on the wrist. Wasn't it like a 2 week thing? Even with that, the album still increased. It is what it is tho🤷🏾
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Post by Gary on Jun 12, 2023 16:03:07 GMT -5
SPS increased from 130K to 150K for like 2 weeks at the "incident" while it was in the news cycle.
So publicity from the incident didn't really do much on the sales side. A 4 month radio ban was basically it.
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Post by rainie on Jun 12, 2023 16:26:32 GMT -5
yeah that the end of the day i feel like the wallet incident hits less of a weird note for me because of anything wallen did (obviously him saying the n word was absolutely wack and should be held against him but as others have said, pales in comparison to a chris brown or even a nicki minaj imo) but more because it felt like he actually *gained* fans directly from it. again, that's not neccesarily his fault but it doesn't mean it doesn't make his smash success feel weird to me
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jun 12, 2023 16:29:57 GMT -5
Last Night is definitely not the worst #1 of the decade, lol. Not even close.
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Post by lazer on Jun 12, 2023 16:46:38 GMT -5
And I thought the charts would be better post-pandemic, I guess I was wrong. In fact, it’s worse now than it was during covid.
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Post by 85la on Jun 12, 2023 17:33:52 GMT -5
He Hasn't left the charts with the controversy, and his popularity was only boosted, so I'm not sure what you're trying to saying here? Wasted on You went recurrent in June that year and and he didn't have a song chart until Sand in My Boots in October so this statement is untrue. I was referring to the Billboard 200 mainly. Yes, he did leave the Hot 100 for a while (although that was only due to radio completely dropping him, streams and sales for his songs actually increased). And then of course, after the absence, he came roaring back on the Hot 100 much stronger than ever before.
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Post by Darkest Hour on Jun 12, 2023 17:58:28 GMT -5
Debuts and As It Was left the chart this week:
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Post by 85la on Jun 12, 2023 18:22:33 GMT -5
Well because of demand for the music. Biggest star in the country at the time of the "incident". That "incident" would have likely impacted a lesser artist more though. He (and Taylor Swift) remain the biggest stars in music today. Ok, but I find it a bit curious that you certainly did not start stanning HARD for Wallen until after the "incident" (nor have you any other artists whatsoever in all the years you've been on Pulse, which certainly is not lost on some of us who've gotten to know you over the years), so it definitely seems that the "incident" had some significance for you in some way. Unless it's all been coincidental? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 12, 2023 18:28:17 GMT -5
I just heard "Last Night" for the first time. I did not expect it to be so monotone.
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Post by imbondz on Jun 12, 2023 18:57:58 GMT -5
Well because of demand for the music. Biggest star in the country at the time of the "incident". That "incident" would have likely impacted a lesser artist more though. He (and Taylor Swift) remain the biggest stars in music today. Ok, but I find it a bit curious that you certainly did not start stanning HARD for Wallen until after the "incident" (nor have you any other artists whatsoever in all the years you've been on Pulse, which certainly is not lost on some of us who've gotten to know you over the years), so it definitely seems that the "incident" had some significance for you in some way. Unless it's all been coincidental? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I don’t know Gary and I can tell you you’re emphatically wrong. Ridiculous statement. You should be embarrassed for typing it.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 12, 2023 19:09:56 GMT -5
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 12, 2023 19:26:50 GMT -5
Last Night is definitely not the worst #1 of the decade, lol. definitely not the worst, but gosh it's such a non-event for a 10+ weeks at #1 song. Can't believe this song will probably be in the top 10 of the decade...
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Post by 85la on Jun 12, 2023 19:44:25 GMT -5
Ok, but I find it a bit curious that you certainly did not start stanning HARD for Wallen until after the "incident" (nor have you any other artists whatsoever in all the years you've been on Pulse, which certainly is not lost on some of us who've gotten to know you over the years), so it definitely seems that the "incident" had some significance for you in some way. Unless it's all been coincidental? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I don’t know Gary and I can tell you you’re emphatically wrong. Ridiculous statement. You should be embarrassed for typing it. If You don't know him, then how can you say I'm wrong? Which is why I was asking, trying to clarify.
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Post by Gary on Jun 12, 2023 19:56:26 GMT -5
I don’t know Gary and I can tell you you’re emphatically wrong. Ridiculous statement. You should be embarrassed for typing it. If You don't know him, then how can you say I'm wrong? I was just asking for clarification, pointing something out. You don't know me either I request that whatever has you angry tonight that you focus on music and charts rather than me --- thanks
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jun 12, 2023 21:06:17 GMT -5
Last Night is definitely not the worst #1 of the decade, lol. definitely not the worst, but gosh it's such a non-event for a 10+ weeks at #1 song. Can't believe this song will probably be in the top 10 of the decade... It’s a non-event to the gay community I’m sure, but it’s pretty huge among the GP. He’s the male Taylor Swift. His music is playing at my work constantly.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jun 12, 2023 21:27:57 GMT -5
Madonna still has 6.5 years to nab a fifth decade with a Top 40 hit. So close at #43.
Still hard to believe that she's only had *two* Hot 100 appearances since 2010: GAYL (#10 in 2010) and BIM (#84 in 2015).
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 12, 2023 22:06:03 GMT -5
Yes. Since "Give Me...," she had two bubbling under appearances ("Girl Gone Wild" and "Living For Love," Nos. 6 and 8, respectively).
Another note: I believe M is the first female to land in the Hot 100's top half, new hit or not, in five decades.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jun 12, 2023 22:37:48 GMT -5
Yes. Since "Give Me...," she had two bubbling under appearances ("Girl Gone Wild" and "Living For Love," Nos. 6 and 8, respectively). Another note: I believe M is the first female to land in the Hot 100's top half, new hit or not, in five decades. Plus two other Bubbling features: 'Levitating (The Blessed Madonna Remix) No. 10 and 'Champagne Rose' No. 20).
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