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Post by neel on Jun 27, 2023 15:47:41 GMT -5
On the subject of chart stagnation in the top 107/1/23 is the 3rd week in a row where there was no new top 10 songs (new or re-entry) --- (in other words, 6/17, 6/24 and 7/1, all with the same top 10, just in a different order) The last song to enter the top 10 was 'Karma' on the 6/10/23 chart 3 weeks in a row of keeping the same top ten from the prior week, in fact, ties a record. 6 times in chart history this has happened, the last being December 2016 (12/3, 1w2/10 and 12/17 all had the same top 10, just in a different order) What were the other five times? |
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Post by slw84 on Jun 27, 2023 17:05:54 GMT -5
so we're looking at a new Olivia single, a new Lil Uzi Vert album and a new Drake album on friday? everybody realized how boring pop music's been the past 3 months I guess lmao Don’t forget Travis Scott’s new album dropping soon. I might be speculating but Ariana Grande might release new music since her 10th anniversary of her debut album is coming up. Idk exactly when but she hasn’t release new music for almost 3 years. I cant' wait. I was awaiting a shakeup on the charts. |
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Jun 27, 2023 17:46:37 GMT -5
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Post by wavey. on Jun 27, 2023 18:44:40 GMT -5
Oh snap! The miscreants won't stand a chance! But nah, this place is a mess. Y'all can have it, LOL! Though, I guess this thread is better than...politics? Issuing warnings, vacations, and permabans takes work, WHEW! I'd say Politics has the potential to be a little boiling pot🫣 |
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US Spotify - 06/26/23
1(=) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 1,408,728 (-58,121)
2(=) Eslabon Armado, Peso Pluma - Ella Baila Sola 1,190,499 (-13,247)
3(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 956,502 (+29,530)
4(+1) Gunna - fukumean 952,300 (+128,053) (+16%)
5(-1) Luke Combs - Fast Car 845,399 (-22,608)
6(+3) Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice - Barbie World 818,397 (+76,845) (+10%)
7(+1) Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros, Junior H - LADY GAGA 795,879 (+52,220) (+7%)
8(=) Peso Pluma, Junior H - LUNA 792,373 (+97,649) (+14%)
9(-2) SZA - Kill Bill 791,000 (+36,729)
10(=) Tyler the Creator, Kali Uchis - See You Again 774,592 (+35,322)
Peso Pluma - GÉNESIS [11/14]
39(=) BYE 539,704 (+28,652)
40(-6) VVS 533,306 (+11,244)
84(+16) RUBICON 392,260 (+40,250) (+11%)
124(+3) ROSA PASTEL 335,661 (+13,554)
130(+54) LAGUNAS 327,561 (+50,658) (+18%)
143(+57) NUEVA VIDA 314,589 (+43,393) (+16%)
148(+19) CARNAL 311,226 (+22,714)
187(re-entry) ZAPATA 285,908
193(re-entry) GAVILÁN II 283,988
Fourth Day Streams: 4,912,455 (+23%)
Others:
11(-5) Grupo Frontera, Bad Bunny - un x100to 767,408 (-6,329)
12(+3) Fuerza Regida - SABOR FRESA 709,826 (+51,825)
13(-2) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 706,906 (-25,126)
14(+2) Lil Durk, J. Cole - All My Life 703,907 (+54,431)
15(-2) Young Thug, Drake - Oh U Went 690,326 (-13,712)
16(-4) Yng Lvcas, Peso Pluma - La Bebe Remix 689,032 (-16,253)
17(+1) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 639,479 (+10,270)
18(+3) Metro Boomin, Swae Lee, NAV, A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - Calling 634,233 (+29,726)
20(-1) Bad Bunny - WHERE SHE GOES 630,643 (+1,862)
21(-1) Fuerza Regida - TQM 616,618 (+5,171)
25(+2) FIFTY FIFTY - Cupid (Twin Version) 582,724 (+26,703)
26(-1) Kali - Area Codes 581,913 (+15,757)
27(-1) Post Malone, Swae Lee - Sunflower 577,482 (+12,757)
28(-4) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 572,301 (+3,542)
29(+11) Noah Kahan - Dial Drunk 567,587 (+57,244) (+11%)
30(-1) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 558,527 (+4,913)
31(=) Doja Cat - Attention 557,994 (+19,390)
32(+4) Metro Boomin, Swae Lee, Lil Wayne, Offset - Annihilate 552,624 (+32,755)
33(-3) Bizarrap, Peso Pluma - Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 55 552,275 (+5,308)
34(+3) Metro Boomin, A$AP Rocky, Roisee - Am I Dreaming 550,194 (+33,082)
35(-2) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 544,013 (+18,309)
36(-1) Drake - Search & Rescue 543,528 (+23,192)
37(-5) Taylor Swift - Karma 542,308 (+13,909)
38(+6) David Kushner - Daylight 541,884 (+53,096) (+11%)
41(=) Metro Boomin, Coi Leray - Self Love 531,815 (+23,166)
42(-4) Junior H, Peso Pluma - El Azul 530,383 (+15,674)
43(=) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage - Creepin' 518,997 (+24,385)
45(+2) Lyrical Lemonade, Juice WRLD, Cordae - Doomsday 507,619 (+30,626)
47(-1) Kali Uchis - Moonlight 500,880 (+23,148)
50(+1) SZA - Snooze 484,209 (+26,043)
51(+3) Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock - Money Trees 477,343 (+26,993)
52(-3) Lil Durk, Morgan Wallen - Stand By Me 476,041 (+11,457)
54(-6) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 470,439 (-4,117)
57(+1) Peso Pluma - Por las Noches 450,227 (+16,151)
62(+2) Kanye West - I Wonder 439,076 (+18,800)
63(=) Miguel - Sure Thing 438,406 (+12,726)
65(-3) El Alfa, Peso Pluma - PLEBADA 437,554 (+10,799)
72(=) Taylor Swift - Style 416,606 (+11,922)
75(-2) Taylor Swift - Blank Space 411,024 (+10,127)
76(+6) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 404,948 (+20,954)
77(+4) The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, Madonna - Popular 403,895 (+18,640)
78(+5) Dominic Fike - Mona Lisa 403,760 (+21,058)
79(-4) Yahritza Y Su Esencia, Grupo Frontera - Frágil 403,177 (+12,473)
80(+6) Taylor Swift - cardigan 401,721 (+28,912)
82(-3) Jordan Davis - Next Thing You Know 394,912 (+8,829)
83(+4) Metro Boomin, Future, Don Toliver - Too Many Nights 393,503 (+21,266)
85(-1) Megan Moroney - Tennessee Orange 391,288 (+11,420)
86(-1) Taylor Swift - Enchanted 389,437 (+15,099)
92(+11) Metro Boomin, 21 Savage - Glock in My Lap 372,117 (+26,017)
93(+5) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 371,446 (+18,942)
95(+11) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 368,403 (+28,047)
96(+18) Jimin - Like Crazy 365,119 (+30,989)
98(+21) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 358,727 (+28,775)
99(+16) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 358,111 (+24,029)
100(+9) Toosii - Favorite Song 357,917 (+19,520)
104(+6) Bailey Zimmerman - Religiously 353,912 (+15,566)
107(+9) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 350,370 (+16,746)
108(-9) Morgan Wallen - Ain't That Some 348,394 (-3,905)
111(+7) Ice Spice, Nicki Minaj - Princess Diana 346,329 (+15,473)
113(+12) Taylor Swift - Lover 344,669 (+22,418)
114(+17) Taylor Swift - august 343,553 (+23,171)
118(+11) Young Nudy, 21 Savage - Peaches & Eggplants 339,650 (+18,623)
121(-10) Dua Lipa - Dance the Night 338,554 (+1,912)
122(+16) Arctic Monkeys - 505 338,237 (+21,852)
123(-15) Bakar - Hell N Back 337,939 (-1,605)
125(-1) Bizarrap, Rauw Alejandro - Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 56 334,829 (+11,078)
126(+10) Post Malone - Chemical 332,258 (+14,624)
127(-6) Feid, Young Miko - Classy 101 331,236 (+5,150)
131(-14) Morgan Wallen, ERNEST - Cowgirls 326,419 (-6,798)
132(+17) Lana Del Rey - Say Yes to Heaven 326,268 (+22,353)
135(+5) Lil Mabu - MATHEMATICAL DISRESPECT 322,293 (+7,422)
136(+14) Oscar Maydon, Junior H - Fin de Semana 321,900 (+18,700)
141(=) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 315,591 (+1,053)
145(+8) Becky G, Peso Pluma - Chanel 314,005 (+15,814)
155(+19) Taylor Swift - Hits Different 305,812 (+22,914)
156(+5) Taylor Swift - Getaway Car 305,791 (+12,285)
157(-22) Old Dominion - Memory Lane 304,707 (-14,086)
164(+14) Zach Bryan, Maggie Rogers - Dawns 300,251 (+19,671)
168(+24) Pinegrove - Need 2 298,674 (+25,584)
173(re-entry) Eden Muñoz, Junior H - Abcadrio 295,358
175(-28) Tyler Hubbard - Dancin' in the Country 295,010 (-11,451)
176(-53) Young Thug, Drake - Parade on Cleveland 294,573 (-30,526)
181(-8) Fuerza Regida, Natanael Cano - Ch y la Pizza 289,285 (+5,223)
184(re-entry) Zach Bryan - Burn, Burn, Burn 288,120
186(=) Fuerza Regida, Peso Pluma - Igualito a Mi Apá 286,161 (+10,392)
188(-43) Young Thug, 21 Savage, Travis Scott, Yak Gotti - Wit Da Racks 285,858 (-21,077)
191(+7) Zach Bryan - Oklahoma Smokeshow 285,510 (+13,919)
192(+5) Sky Rompiendo, Feid, Myke Towers - El Cielo 284,363 (+12,766)
195(-13) Morgan Wallen - Everything I Love 282,508 (+3,672)
198(re-entry) KAROL G - AMARGURA 280,526
200(re-entry) Metro Boomin, James Blake - Hummingbird 279,666
Biggest Gains (50K+): LAGUNAS, Daylight, Dial Drunk, All My Life, SABOR FRESA, LUNA, LADY GAGA, Barbie World, fukumean
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 28, 2023 10:41:26 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2023 » / « 06 » / « 28 »
1(=) Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down 101.76(+0.69)
2(=) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 91.63(-0.17) +
3(=) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 90.44(+0.40)
4(=) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin' 78.42(-0.50)
5(=) Luke Combs - Fast Car 68.13(+1.10)
6(=) Taylor Swift - Karma 66.96(+0.77)
7(=) SZA - Snooze 61.40(+1.60)
8(=) Miguel - Sure Thing 58.97(-0.45)
9(=) Ed Sheeran - Eyes Closed 56.35(+0.12)
10(+1) Jordan Davis - Next Thing You Know 48.53(+0.21)
13(+1) Lil Durk - All My Life (feat. J. Cole) 45.09(+0.90)
45(+4) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 21.48(+1.24)
-(-) Farruko - Pasa_je_ro 1.64(+1.49) +
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Post by kingvavis on Jun 28, 2023 13:59:36 GMT -5
Despite the chart stagnation, if someone said a year ago that the top 3 was gonna consist of two country songs and a afrobeats song, it would've been shocking. Overall a pretty diverse top 10.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 28, 2023 14:04:13 GMT -5
Interesting how this year started out entirely different from last year, 2022 the charts were stagnant up until April while this year we had a host of new hit songs up until April and since then the chart has been stagnant.
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Post by kingvavis on Jun 28, 2023 14:15:56 GMT -5
Interesting how this year started out entirely different from last year, 2022 the charts were stagnant up until April while this year we had a host of new hit songs up until April and since then the chart has been stagnant. What's also interesting is that the spring season is usually one of the most active in recent years (2022 album tsunami, 2021 had a slew of huge singles and albums, etc). |
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Post by neel on Jun 28, 2023 14:40:39 GMT -5
About 9 songs have so far debuted in the Top 10 this year, that's the lowest we had at this point since 2016 (pretty much when album bombs affecting the chart started becoming a regular thing).
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Post by Bhad Bill on Jun 28, 2023 14:55:12 GMT -5
Y'all I am officially old I think. I'm 30 and have faithfully read the entire Billboard Hot 100 every single Tuesday since June 2012. Plus years before that of subscribing to the actual magazine and reading the physical chart.
I... am really losing interest. I think I am just aging out. The charts have exciting weeks and moments, but for the most part, I just don't care or genuinely don't know or like the artists and songs currently charting. I don't mean it in a shady way, I respect ANYONE who charts, what an achievement. But I just... don't care the way I did. This week's chart in particular was an absolute chore to scroll through. (I didn't even read Monday's Top 10 article, and only remembered to check for the new chart this afternoon...)
I will still be here, following along, let's be real. Just wanted to express how I felt.
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Post by atg on Jun 28, 2023 15:20:46 GMT -5
Even if the charts aren’t moving as much, i’d prefer what we got this year far over how it was the first couple of months into 2022.
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Post by dodgerslakers94 on Jun 28, 2023 17:38:03 GMT -5
Y'all I am officially old I think. I'm 30 and have faithfully read the entire Billboard Hot 100 every single Tuesday since June 2012. Plus years before that of subscribing to the actual magazine and reading the physical chart. I... am really losing interest. I think I am just aging out. The charts have exciting weeks and moments, but for the most part, I just don't care or genuinely don't know or like the artists and songs currently charting. I don't mean it in a shady way, I respect ANYONE who charts, what an achievement. But I just... don't care the way I did. This week's chart in particular was an absolute chore to scroll through. (I didn't even read Monday's Top 10 article, and only remembered to check for the new chart this afternoon...) I will still be here, following along, let's be real. Just wanted to express how I felt. I can totally relate. I started following the charts in 2011 and I’m not sure about you, but that was the prime (for me, of course) for songs and artists to chart up until mid-2018 when I started losing interest. Must’ve been the trap era that made me look away, but anywho. Atp, I’d rather have a turnover of songs hitting #1 like in 2020. Kinda miss it tbh. Yes, we had forgettable #1 songs like Stuck with U, Rain on Me, Trollz, Franchise etc, but it was fun watching different songs take turns at #1. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 28, 2023 18:28:14 GMT -5
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Post by neel on Jun 28, 2023 18:42:30 GMT -5
How is “Creepin” still in the f—king TOP 10!!! |
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Post by atg on Jun 28, 2023 19:06:30 GMT -5
How is “Creepin” still in the f—king TOP 10!!! It might be in the top 10 until late July unless Snooze, Cruel Summer/SNTV, Travis, Uzi, Posty, and Olivia occupy enough spaces to get rid of it and other older songs like Kill Bill, Flowers, Calm Down and Favorite Song to mention a few. There’s nothing wrong with the songs above but there needs to be a lot more dynamic movement happening. |
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Post by wavey. on Jun 28, 2023 21:04:53 GMT -5
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 28, 2023 23:42:40 GMT -5
US Spotify - 06/27/23
1(=) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 1,448,714 (+39,986)
2(=) Eslabon Armado, Peso Pluma - Ella Baila Sola 1,212,373 (+21,874)
3(+1) Gunna - fukumean 1,054,446 (+102,146) (+11%)
4(-1) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 995,315 (+38,813)
5(=) Luke Combs - Fast Car 876,889 (+31,490)
6(+3) SZA - Kill Bill 837,428 (+46,428)
7(-1) Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice - Barbie World 826,529 (+8,132)
8(+2) Tyler the Creator, Kali Uchis - See You Again 800,402 (+25,810)
9(+2) Grupo Frontera, Bad Bunny - un x100to 793,075 (+25,667)
10(-3) Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros, Junior H - LADY GAGA 790,319 (-5,560)
Peso Pluma - GÉNESIS [9/14]
12(-4) LUNA 754,303 (-38,070)
41(-2) BYE 536,953 (-2,751)
51(-11) VVS 494,161 (-39,145)
92(-8) RUBICON 384,132 (-8,128)
127(+3) LAGUNAS 342,275 (+14,714)
145(-21) ROSA PASTEL 319,266 (-16,395)
162(-19) NUEVA VIDA 308,562 (-6,027)
197(-49) CARNAL 287,329 (-23,897)
Fifth Day Streams: 4,217,300 (-14%)
Others:
11(+3) Lil Durk, J. Cole - All My Life 755,090 (+51,183)
13(+3) Yng Lvcas, Peso Pluma - La Bebe Remix 731,693 (+42,661)
14(+1) Young Thug, Drake - Oh U Went 709,248 (+18,922)
15(-2) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 697,364 (-9,542)
16(+4) Bad Bunny - WHERE SHE GOES 680,195 (+49,552)
17(+1) Metro Boomin, Swae Lee, NAV, A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - Calling 676,262 (+42,029)
18(-6) Fuerza Regida - SABOR FRESA 666,582 (-43,244)
19(-2) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 658,782 (+19,303)
21(=) Fuerza Regida - TQM 643,112 (+26,494)
23(+3) Kali - Area Codes 628,016 (+46,103)
24(+7) Doja Cat - Attention 615,155 (+57,161) (+10%)
27(-2) FIFTY FIFTY - Cupid (Twin Version) 603,467 (+20,743)
28(+2) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 600,473 (+41,946)
29(-2) Post Malone, Swae Lee - Sunflower 599,123 (+21,641)
30(-1) Noah Kahan - Dial Drunk 577,214 (+9,627)
31(+5) Drake - Search & Rescue 575,684 (+32,156)
32(-4) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 574,650 (+2,349)
33(+5) David Kushner - Daylight 566,786 (+24,902)
34(+11) Lyrical Lemonade, Juice WRLD, Cordae - Doomsday 564,957 (+57,338) (+11%)
35(=) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 557,892 (+13,879)
36(+1) Taylor Swift - Karma 555,352 (+13,044)
37(-4) Bizarrap, Peso Pluma - Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 55 553,848 (+1,573)
38(-4) Metro Boomin, A$AP Rocky, Roisee - Am I Dreaming 553,276 (+3,082)
39(-7) Metro Boomin, Swae Lee, Lil Wayne, Offset - Annihilate 551,815 (-809)
40(+2) Junior H, Peso Pluma - El Azul 551,772 (+21,389)
42(+1) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage - Creepin' 529,614 (+10,617)
43(+7) SZA - Snooze 526,476 (+42,267)
44(-3) Metro Boomin, Coi Leray - Self Love 525,124 (-6,691)
47(+7) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 515,982 (+45,543)
48(-1) Kali Uchis - Moonlight 514,701 (+13,821)
53(-2) Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock - Money Trees 486,767 (+9,424)
54(-2) Lil Durk, Morgan Wallen - Stand By Me 486,230 (+10,189)
56(+1) Peso Pluma - Por las Noches 470,179 (+19,952)
57(+8) El Alfa, Peso Pluma - PLEBADA 469,948 (+32,394)
59(+4) Miguel - Sure Thing 460,999 (+22,593)
67(-5) Kanye West - I Wonder 439,697 (+621)
68(+9) The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, Madonna - Popular 438,000 (+34,105)
73(-1) Taylor Swift - Style 427,879 (+11,273)
74(+5) Yahritza Y Su Esencia, Grupo Frontera - Frágil 427,321 (+24,144)
75(+7) Jordan Davis - Next Thing You Know 426,156 (+31,244)
77(+8) Megan Moroney - Tennessee Orange 417,125 (+25,837)
78(-3) Taylor Swift - Blank Space 416,525 (+5,501)
79(-3) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 414,933 (+9,985)
81(-3) Dominic Fike - Mona Lisa 412,648 (+8,888)
82(-2) Taylor Swift - cardigan 408,793 (+7,072)
83(=) Metro Boomin, Future, Don Toliver - Too Many Nights 405,257 (+11,754)
87(-1) Taylor Swift - Enchanted 391,971 (+2,534)
88(+33) Dua Lipa - Dance the Night 391,574 (+53,020) (+16%)
91(+13) Bailey Zimmerman - Religiously 386,632 (+32,720)
94(-2) Metro Boomin, 21 Savage - Glock in My Lap 376,958 (+4,841)
96(-1) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 372,620 (+4,217)
97(-4) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 372,430 (+984)
99(+12) Ice Spice, Nicki Minaj - Princess Diana 365,152 (+18,823)
101(+17) Young Nudy, 21 Savage - Peaches & Eggplants 362,315 (+22,665)
103(-3) Toosii - Favorite Song 360,966 (+3,049)
108(-10) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 357,344 (-1,383)
112(-13) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 353,849 (-4,262)
113(+13) Post Malone - Chemical 353,833 (+21,575)
115(-8) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 353,541 (+3,171)
116(-8) Morgan Wallen - Ain't That Some 352,374 (+3,980)
118(+9) Feid, Young Miko - Classy 101 350,873 (+19,637)
119(-5) Taylor Swift - august 350,027 (+6,474)
120(+12) Lana Del Rey - Say Yes to Heaven 349,384 (+23,116)
122(-9) Taylor Swift - Lover 345,917 (+1,248)
125(+11) Oscar Maydon, Junior H - Fin de Semana 343,235 (+21,335)
126(-4) Arctic Monkeys - 505 342,702 (+4,465)
129(-33) Jimin - Like Crazy 341,708 (-23,411)
130(-5) Bizarrap, Rauw Alejandro - Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 56 337,973 (+3,144)
132(-1) Morgan Wallen, ERNEST - Cowgirls 337,366 (+10,947)
133(re-entry) Young Thug, Future - Cars Bring Me Out 335,840
134(+11) Becky G, Peso Pluma - Chanel 334,671 (+20,666),
135(+22) Old Dominion - Memory Lane 332,519 (+27,812)
136(-13) Bakar - Hell N Back 332,293 (-5,646)
142(-7) Lil Mabu - MATHEMATICAL DISRESPECT 321,763 (-530)
147(-6) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 317,827 (+2,236)
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velaxti
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Post by velaxti on Jun 29, 2023 1:29:26 GMT -5
How is “Creepin” still in the f—king TOP 10!!! It might be in the top 10 until late July unless Snooze, Cruel Summer/SNTV, Travis, Uzi, Posty, and Olivia occupy enough spaces to get rid of it and other older songs like Kill Bill, Flowers, Calm Down and Favorite Song to mention a few. There’s nothing wrong with the songs above but there needs to be a lot more dynamic movement happening. It looks to me like Snooze, Cruel Summer and Fukemean are all going top 10 next week which will push Creepin out. If Olivia is out next week as well that could be 4 new songs in the top 10 in 1 week. It's not surprising the top 10 has been so stagnant recently, in that prediction none of them are changing more than +/-5% week-on-week. Increasing the weighting of sales would make the charts move a bit faster as the iTunes chart is a lot more volatile compared to airplay and streaming, but that comes with it's own problem as it's too easy for a small group of people to influence if the weighting is too high. |
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gs
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Post by gs on Jun 29, 2023 2:21:10 GMT -5
Slow movement of the charts due to streaming consumption does not need to be "fixed" and is much more accurate than the sales era - we aren't going back to the that era, unless you want to discard a listener's streams after the first week or up to X number, to prevent their consumption from being infinitely reflected, and make a single-time impact like sales do.
Radio is a different beast and is contributing to the stagnation in the modern era though. Some kind of ACR system on audience numbers for songs that have fallen on streaming but refuse to budge from radio (like Flowers) would help.
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neel
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Post by neel on Jun 29, 2023 2:26:23 GMT -5
It might be in the top 10 until late July unless Snooze, Cruel Summer/SNTV, Travis, Uzi, Posty, and Olivia occupy enough spaces to get rid of it and other older songs like Kill Bill, Flowers, Calm Down and Favorite Song to mention a few. There’s nothing wrong with the songs above but there needs to be a lot more dynamic movement happening. It looks to me like Snooze, Cruel Summer and Fukemean are all going top 10 next week which will push Creepin out. If Olivia is out next week as well that could be 4 new songs in the top 10 in 1 week. It's not surprising the top 10 has been so stagnant recently, in that prediction none of them are changing more than +/-5% week-on-week. Increasing the weighting of sales would make the charts move a bit faster as the iTunes chart is a lot more volatile compared to airplay and streaming, but that comes with it's own problem as it's too easy for a small group of people to influence if the weighting is too high. I agree but then again I don’t want BTS Stans/Barbz pulling the same shit that they did throughout 2020/2021. Were at the era where sales are selling less than 20k-15k per week compared to what it was 10 or even 5 years ago. |
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pcg4
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Post by pcg4 on Jun 29, 2023 3:14:56 GMT -5
Y'all I am officially old I think. I'm 30 and have faithfully read the entire Billboard Hot 100 every single Tuesday since June 2012. Plus years before that of subscribing to the actual magazine and reading the physical chart. I... am really losing interest. I think I am just aging out. The charts have exciting weeks and moments, but for the most part, I just don't care or genuinely don't know or like the artists and songs currently charting. I don't mean it in a shady way, I respect ANYONE who charts, what an achievement. But I just... don't care the way I did. This week's chart in particular was an absolute chore to scroll through. (I didn't even read Monday's Top 10 article, and only remembered to check for the new chart this afternoon...) I will still be here, following along, let's be real. Just wanted to express how I felt. I kinda agree, but for me more than anything is the fact that being non-american, I barely recognise half of the top 20. Like, I know Last Night because I went and listened to it after I saw it was #1, but in my home country and across Europe some of these songs are known by few people. No radio play, impossible to hear them when you go out... I counted it and on last chart's I've passively heard 3 of 20, and activley I have only 10. And I don't think that's a bad thing, that every country has their own music style, but for example 10 years ago I knew practically every song in the Top20 (14) without the need to go and search for it as I didn't follow the charts. I kinda miss those global smashes all packed together. |
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jasper0102
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Post by jasper0102 on Jun 29, 2023 3:36:18 GMT -5
Despite the chart stagnation, if someone said a year ago that the top 3 was gonna consist of two country songs and a afrobeats song, it would've been shocking. Overall a pretty diverse top 10. Yeah, not to mention the Regional Mexican song and the abundance of R&B against pop. How is “Creepin” still in the f—king TOP 10!!! Don't act like you don't know why it's still there: massive radio, decent streaming, and nothing below it that can decisively knock it out, yet. How is “Creepin” still in the f—king TOP 10!!! It might be in the top 10 until late July unless Snooze, Cruel Summer/SNTV, Travis, Uzi, Posty, and Olivia occupy enough spaces to get rid of it and other older songs like Kill Bill, Flowers, Calm Down and Favorite Song to mention a few. Considering how they're going, even with the barrage of new releases i really don't think Flowers or Calm Down (or really any of the top 5 rn) are leaving the top 10 anytime soon. Also feels wrong to call Favorite Song an "older song" even if it probably won't be in the top 10 in a month. |
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goldrush
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Post by goldrush on Jun 29, 2023 8:03:43 GMT -5
Creepin with the lowest units out of the entire top 25. It’s definitely not even remotely close to the top 10 in weekly revenue. Last week it was getting out-streamed by multiple songs in the 50+ positions on the Hot 100.
Sure Thing is performing a little better overall, but in a similar situation. However Creepin is long past its radio peak unlike Sure Thing.
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Groovy
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Post by Groovy on Jun 29, 2023 9:37:18 GMT -5
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Az Paynter
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 29, 2023 10:35:42 GMT -5
To be honest, I'd been wondering lately about re-upping the weight of airplay in the formula. Hear me out; obviously songs with airplay but lacking in streaming will never be contenders for the upper-most end of the chart (and nor should they be, if they aren't getting both) but it's kinda bulls**t for artists like Pink and Miley to reach the level of airplay they have (with 'Trustfall' and 'Jaded' respectively) but all that's good for is... scraping the bottom quarter of the chart at best? Clearly they're not huge airplay hits either but I feel like where they're at should count for something more substantial. What's wrong with a more level balance of songs with airplay but no streaming, against songs with streaming but no airplay?
Even an increase in how much airplay counts would probably have helped Miguel ('Sure Thing') and SZA ('Snooze') hit the top 10 already. It could even give non-crossover country hits more of a fighting chance to maybe hit the top 10 (Jordan Davis comes to mind, seeing as he's #10 in Kworb overall estimates).
The only thing that's keeping me from going all in on this, are the radio zombies still crowding the airplay top 5. 'Flowers', 'Calm Down', 'Creepin' and especially 'Last Night' don't need the added boost.
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Jun 29, 2023 10:43:09 GMT -5
It doesn't help that radio is extremely top heavy, so increasing it's impact on the formula will hurt any newer song's chances of reaching the upper ranks. The gap between zombie #5 Creepin' and #10 is actually bigger than the one between said #10 and P!nk (#34).
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TakeMe
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Post by TakeMe on Jun 29, 2023 10:53:38 GMT -5
How is “Creepin” still in the f—king TOP 10!!! The sales and streams are weaker than anything else in top 10 soooooo Payola? |
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