Billboard Hot 100: 07/22/2023

[tituscat]

Jul 18, 2023 11:34:22 GMT -5 85la said:

Jul 18, 2023 10:12:12 GMT -5 musiclife said:

No there isn't.

Yes there are.

And what are they?

[Gary]

Still gaining at radio
holding well on streams and sales

I guess a "doubt" could be a stringer #1 debut by someone else?

[85la]

Jul 18, 2023 17:37:43 GMT -5 tituscat said:

Jul 18, 2023 11:34:22 GMT -5 85la said:

Yes there are.

And what are they?

It will need to spend 6 more weeks at #1 to break the record, which is of course a long time. A multitude of things can happen until then and any number of songs could come up to break its run, such as Cruel Summer, Fukumean, or Drake or Travis or any other unreleased song. It's shown incredible stability and still growing somewhat at radio, so not saying it has no shot at all, but its points total is overall on a downward trend now and is by no means insurmountable, so it's silly to say "there are no doubts" that it will definitely break the record.

[Gary]

If not for the four songs that stepped in to interrupt the 14 week run - it would be 19 weeks now.


The song is still growing so....we will see.

[hitsrus]

I think the biggest thing we have learnt from LN is just how hard it is in todays conditions it is to get 300 points, but much more importantly to stay at that level after initial hype week,

Also, looking at points for the last few months - it is definitely a possibility for LN to snag a week in September even declining to 250 points - which is about what I expect come mid Sept point wise for the song,

But there are so many what it's as always with the charts. Something new could come along, skmeqthing new might not.

[atg]

Jul 18, 2023 22:39:17 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

I think the biggest thing we have learnt from LN is just how hard it is in todays conditions it is to get 300 points, but much more importantly to stay at that level after initial hype week,

Also, looking at points for the last few months - it is definitely a possibility for LN to snag a week in September even declining to 250 points - which is about what I expect come mid Sept point wise for the song,

But there are so many what it's as always with the charts. Something new could come along, skmeqthing new might not.

Now imagine if Last Night came out during the stale period we had last year and did the same amount of points as its doing now.

[Gary]

As we learned from the album chart where his 2021 album is STILL top 10 after 131 weeks. Margan Wallen fans do a lot of streaming

Last Night, after its reign at #1 ends (whenever that is) could hang i the top 10 for a while

[neel]

Jul 18, 2023 22:44:28 GMT -5 Gary said:

As we learned from the album chart where his 2021 album is STILL top 10 after 131 weeks. Margan Wallen fans do a lot of streaming

Last Night, after its reign at #1 ends (whenever that is) could hang i the top 10 for a while

If this song somehow dethrones "Blinding Lights" on the GOAT list, I have officially lost hope on this country. Even worse this pile of trash will be the one to push "Bille Jean" out of the Top 100.


The good thing is that the next list updates in either 2026 or 2028, so a collection of songs can try to replace Morgy if does reach #1. 

It’s already clear he’ll have the No. 1 album of the 2020s.

[gs]

Jul 18, 2023 22:51:20 GMT -5 neel said:

Jul 18, 2023 22:44:28 GMT -5 Gary said:

As we learned from the album chart where his 2021 album is STILL top 10 after 131 weeks. Margan Wallen fans do a lot of streaming

Last Night, after its reign at #1 ends (whenever that is) could hang i the top 10 for a while

If this song somehow dethrones "Blinding Lights" on the GOAT list, I have officially lost hope on this country. Even worse this pile of trash will be the one to push "Bille Jean" out of the Top 100.


The good thing is that the next list updates in either 2026 or 2028, so a collection of songs can try to replace Morgy if does reach #1. 

It’s already clear he’ll have the No. 1 of the 2020s.

The No. 1 of the 2020s and all-time are the same thing 

The fact that TWO all-time songs came within 4 years is testament to Billboard's system no longer working

Not to mention STAY and As It Was threatening top 5 each; four songs in the top 10 within 4 years is silly. They need to re-think the system

The problem is a combination of consumption being able to be endlessly reflected in the chart (compared to sales era, where a single purchase would mark the end of consumption for a listener), and radio acting more like streaming holding onto top hits forever. It has produced a deadly combination where hits now last forever. If you were to measure how many times older songs that were purchased were being consumed, they too would chart way longer. No matter what silly multipliers or inverse points are used, the whole thing is flawed.

[hitsrus]

Jul 18, 2023 22:51:20 GMT -5 neel said:

The good thing is that the next list updates in either 2026 or 2028, so a collection of songs can try to replace Morgy if does reach #1. 

It’s already clear he’ll have the No. 1 album of the 2020s.

isn't the 65th anniversary like just a couple weeks away?

I suppose they did just recently update the list - which I still haven't figured out why they didn't wait until now - but to not do anything for the anniversary?  Wait five more years?  Baffled.

[neel]

Jul 19, 2023 1:30:45 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

Jul 18, 2023 22:51:20 GMT -5 neel said:

The good thing is that the next list updates in either 2026 or 2028, so a collection of songs can try to replace Morgy if does reach #1. 

It’s already clear he’ll have the No. 1 album of the 2020s.

isn't the 65th anniversary like just a couple weeks away?

I suppose they did just recently update the list - which I still haven't figured out why they didn't wait until now - but to not do anything for the anniversary?  Wait five more years?  Baffled.

I'm talking about the ones after the August 2023 65th Anniversary update, assuming Billboard does what they did in 2018 and show all 600(potentially 650) songs, "Last Night" run from February to August will rank it somewhere between #500-#400. 

[Skibidi Bop Bop]

All I want for Christmas Is U to the rescue. Atleast its Number 1 everywhere. Unlike LN which is only known in like 3 countries? Top 28 in UK and Non existent to the rest of Europe and Asia.😂. I'm mean come on what happened to American taste.

[Choco]

Country music is the equivalent of local US music for other markets. Like, I wouldn't expect música llanera, which is our version of "country", in Venezuela, to translate well into other markets. Even huge acts like Carrie Underwood never quite made it overseas; look at how much better Taylor Swift's international numbers got once she transitioned to full pop.

As for those all time records thing, they always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Or do we really think "Blinding Lights" is seriously the biggest hit ever?

[hitsrus]

Jul 19, 2023 9:25:18 GMT -5 Choco said:

Country music is the equivalent of local US music for other markets. Like, I wouldn't expect música llanera, which is our version of "country", in Venezuela, to translate well into other markets. Even huge acts like Carrie Underwood never quite made it overseas; look at how much better Taylor Swift's international numbers got once she transitioned to full pop.

As for those all time records thing, they always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Or do we really think "Blinding Lights" is seriously the biggest hit ever?

It's all about context.

I don't look at a chart from another country, and say gee, that stuff sure is local. Not sure who any of those people are and why they are being played so much.  Must not be real songs they aren't charting here.

this is the US Hot 100 thread.  Not the world thread. 

As for all time lists.  Again it is about context.  The songs represent chart action not bigness.  The title they use for their lists doesn't help and is misleading to an extent.  Plus well any list quickly falls apart once you start comparing apples to oranges.  Charts now have nothing in comparison to old charts and how they were made and why.  One off consumption, a purchase, vs endless consumption, stresming,

[divasummer]

I guess Morgan Wallen’s “Last Night” is out streaming “Vampire” at most streaming services besides Spotify.
I was kind of surprised it was the number one streamed song of the week….
I guess seeing the Spotify update everyday here skewed my judgement..?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Taylor Swift Breaks Her Own Record on Streaming Songs Chart

7/19/2023

By Kevin Rutherford

She appears on the latest chart 22 times, the most at once by a woman.

Taylor Swift nets 22 songs on Billboard’s Streaming Songs chart dated July 22, breaking her own record in the process.

With 22 appearances, Swift sets a new mark for the most songs on the survey at once by a woman since its 2013 inception, surpassing the 20 she achieved on the Nov. 5, 2022, ranking upon the release of her album Midnights.

This time, it’s her LP Speak Now (Taylor’s Version) that makes up the bulk of the songs, with 20 of the 22 from the new release. Leading the way is “I Can See You (Taylor’s Version) (From the Vault),” which bows at No. 2 with 24.7 million official U.S. streams in the week ending July 13, according to Luminate.

The other two Swift tunes on Streaming Songs are Lover’s “Cruel Summer” (No. 10, 15.4 million streams) and Midnights’ “Anti-Hero” (No. 44, 10 million streams).

In all, Swift occupies six of the chart’s top 10. The next largest after “I Can See You,” “Mine (Taylor’s Version),” appears at No. 6 with 16.2 million streams. (Swift is one of two acts to hold down the entire top 10, having done so on the aforementioned Nov. 5, 2022, list. Drake has accomplished the feat twice: Nov. 19, 2022, and Sept. 18, 2021.)

Those five new top 10s (as “Cruel Summer” had previously reached the top 10) breaks Swift out of a tie with Lil Baby for the second-most top 10s in the chart’s history, now boasting 39. Drake leads all acts with 85 top 10s.

Most Top 10s, Streaming Songs

85, Drake
39, Taylor Swift
34, Lil Baby
29, The Weeknd
26, 21 Savage
25, Future
24, Kanye West
23, J. Cole
23, Justin Bieber
23, Post Malone

Only three times has an artist netted more than 22 songs on Streaming Songs at once. Morgan Wallen holds the all-time record, set earlier this year, with 30 (March 18), followed by Drake (28; July 14, 2018) and Bad Bunny (23; May 21, 2022).

Concurrently, as previously reported, “I Can See You” leads the crop of Speak Now (Taylor’s Version) songs on the multimetric Billboard Hot 100, bowing at No. 5. And on the Billboard 200, the album starts at No. 1 with 716,000 equivalent album units earned.

[wavey.]

🤯 @ Drake, gdamn!