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Post by 85la on Aug 26, 2023 12:38:20 GMT -5
If the country rumours for Beyβs next album/act are true, Iβm really curious how sheβs gonna perform on streaming with country as a genre now catching up in that field. Honestly, probably not good. Let's be real, the country industry is still resistant (to put it mildly) to Black people and women, and then her core audience isn't likely to be excited about a country album. If she went country she'd surely break records for a Black woman making country music, but she herself would likely get lower numbers than she otherwise would. It's not a coincidence that every country artist as of late who has gotten into the top 10 of the Hot 100 - Morgan Walgreens, Luke Combs, Blackface Aldean, Oliver Anthony, Zach Bryan, even going back to Sam Hunt - is a white male.
I don't disagree that this is how it would likely play out, but I would hold out some hope. Back in the 60s, what Ray Charles did with Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music was unprecedented (even though that wasn't a completely Country album and incorporated R&B and other genres, but it's likely Beyonce would do the same), and that became his biggest album yet by far, so there is some precedent that the genre could potentially be open to black artists, especially if they are already big in other genres.
As for Zach's album, I've started to listen to it and am enjoying it pretty much so far! It's obviously different than the mostly Bro-county that's smashing on the charts now and receiving the most airplay, being more folk/americana, so I'm not sure how much Country radio (let alone pop/AC) would catch on? Something in the Orange itself only peaked at #20 on country radio. And the standout track is with Kasey Musgraves, but she never got much country airplay either.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 26, 2023 12:54:17 GMT -5
US Spotify - 08/25/23
Zach Bryan - Zach Bryan
1(DEBUT) I Remember Everything 2,496,753
2(DEBUT) Overtime 2,081,776
3(DEBUT) East Side of Sorrow 1,993,731
4(DEBUT) Summertime's Close 1,965,066
5(DEBUT) Hey Driver 1,888,765
6(DEBUT) Spotless 1,874,672
8(DEBUT) Fear and Friday's 1,800,087
9(DEBUT) Fear and Friday's (Poem) 1,757,846
10(DEBUT) Ticking 1,696,173
13(DEBUT) Holy Roller 1,594,068
14(DEBUT) Tourniquet 1,571,033
15(DEBUT) El Dorado 1,468,248
17(DEBUT) Jake's Piano - Long Island 1,444,014
18(DEBUT) Tradesman 1,385,869
19(DEBUT) Smaller Act 1,359,121
22(DEBUT) Oklahoma Son 1,261,223
Total First Day Streams: 27,638,445
Top 10 Without Zach Bryan S/T Album
7(-6) Doja Cat - Paint the Town Red 1,853,259 (+178,696) (+11%)
11(-9) Oliver Anthony Music - Rich Men North of Richmond 1,611,373 (+114,317)
12(DEBUT) Miley Cyrus - Used to Be Young 1,595,325
16(-13) Gunna - fukumean 1,446,783 (+41,238)
20(-16) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 1,338,771 (+86,150)
21(DEBUT) Selena Gomez - Single Soon 1,287,466
23(-18) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 1,222,251 (+24,783)
24(-14) Travis Scott, Drake - MELTDOWN 1,010,872 (+112,746) (+13%)
25(-19) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 993,137 (+15,941)
26(-18) Olivia Rodrigo - bad idea right? 990,834 (+78,900)
Other:
27(-20) Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice - Barbie World 924,851 (-2,004)
28(-17) Dua Lipa - Dance the Night 908,585 (+83,156) (+10%)
29(-20) Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For? 895,489 (-5,271)
30(-16) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 875,964 (+114,787) (+15%)
31(-19) Travis Scott - I KNOW ? 845,477 (+23,716)
32(-17) KAROL G, Peso Pluma - QLONA 835,282 (+78,445) (+10%)
33(-20) Luke Combs - Fast Car 829,960 (+46,304)
34(-17) Jung Kook, Latto - Seven 808,049 (+85,702) (+12%)
37(-17) Tyler the Creator, Kali Uchis - See You Again 716,459 (+8,599)
39(-14) Bailey Zimmerman - Religiously 685,671 (+65,776) (+11%)
40(-22) Travis Scott, Playboi Carti - FE!N 681,631 (-40,671)
41(-20) Travis Scott, SZA, Future - TELEKINESIS 678,926 (-15,713)
43(-19) Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros, Junior H - LADY GAGA 645,373 (+9,016)
44(-12) SZA - Snooze 632,771 (+85,046) (+16%)
46(-12) Grupo Frontera, Bad Bunny - un x100to 626,138 (+79,754) (+15%)
47(+7) Zach Bryan - Heading South 599,724 (+121,900) (+26%) *new peak*
48(-22) Taylor Swift - august 590,507 (-27,565)
49(-16) Myke Towers - LALA 583,411 (+36,674)
50(-21) KAROL G - MI EX TENΓA RAZΓN 577,255 (+21,441)
52(-24) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 570,966 (+7,073)
54(-24) NewJeans - Super Shy 560,969 (+8,535)
55(-16) Kali Uchis - Moonlight 555,927 (+22,549)
57(-26) Taylor Swift - Style 546,424 (-2,305)
58(-17) Taylor Swift - Karma 544,426 (+13,995)
60(-20) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 533,984 (+2,177)
62(+20) Zach Bryan, Maggie Rogers - Dawns 527,036 (+106,429) (+25%)
64(-19) Lil Durk, J. Cole - All My Life 525,862 (+20,208)
65(+8) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 520,777 (+84,905) (+19%) *new peak*
66(-20) Bad Bunny - WHERE SHE GOES 515,925 (+18,937)
67(-5) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 511,051 (+51,965) (+11%)
68(-30) Laufey - From the Start 506,380 (-31,751)
69(-21) Ice Spice - Deli 500,953 (+11,677)
70(-19) Taylor Swift - Blank Space 496,505 (+13,048)
72(-23) David Kushner - Daylight 488,621 (+242)
73(-21) Fuerza Regida - SABOR FRESA 486,311 (+3,719)
78(-22) Travis Scott, Bad Bunny, The Weeknd - K-POP 476,583 (+3,249)
83(DEBUT) Gucci Mane, J. Cole, Mike WiLL Made-It - There I Go 462,814
84(-20) Charlie XCX - Speed Drive 462,171 (+5,275)
85(-1) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 459,350 (+43,638) (+10%)
86(-29) Taylor Swift - cardigan 458,921 (-13,660)
87(-21) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 458,920 (+6,964)
89(-42) Noah Kahan, Post Malone - Dial Drunk Remix 457,860 (-37,325)
90(-25) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 455,513 (-699)
91(-20) Peso Pluma, Grupo Frontera - TULUM 455,425 (+10,040)
95(-15) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 441,045 (+17,902)
96(-22) Fuerza Regida - TQM 432,338 (-596)
98(-19) Peso Pluma, Jasiel NuΓ±ez - LAGUNAS 426,686 (+139)
99(-30) Taylor Swift - I Can See You 426,015 (-23,401)
101(+16) Zach Bryan - Oklahoma Smokeshow 425,594 (+62,584) (+17%) *new peak*
105(-22) FIFTY FIFTY - Cupid (Twin Version) 421,016 (+1,898)
107(+18) Zach Bryan - Burn, Burn Burn 412,185 (+56,729) (+16%)
108(-23) Young Nudy, 21 Savage - Peaches & Eggplants 411,519 (+4,966)
110(-17) Bizarrap, Peso Pluma - Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 55 405,222 (+10,059)
111(-14) That Mexican OT, Paul Wall, DRODi - Johnny Dang 405,017 (+17,526)
112(-14) The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, Madonna - Popular 404,695 (+17,755)
115(DEBUT) Conan Gray - Winner 398,073
119(+33) Zach Bryan - Revival 395,810 (+63,460) (+19%) *new peak*
121(+8) Tyler Childers - All Your'n 393,915 (+42,603) (+12%)
122(-30) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 392,374 (-3,569)
123(-24) Travis Scott - MY EYES 391,938 (+5,315)
124(-22) KAROL G - S91 389,661-379,555 (+10,106)
129(-23) Odetari, 9lives - I LOVE YOU HOE 386,021 (+13,403)
131(-28) Dave, Central Cee - Sprinter 383,242 (+4,958)
134(-1) Tyler Childers - Feathered Indians 378,666 (+29,450)
138(-31) Travis Scott, Rob49, 21 Savage - TOPIA TWINS 371,311 (-1,093)
139(-23) Peso Pluma - BYE 370,654 (+6,963)
140(-30) Taylor Swift - Lover 370,425 (+333)
144(-9) Jimin - Like Crazy 368,046 (+19,508)
145(-22) Feid, Young Miko - Classy 101 367,117 (+10,968)
151(-38) Steve Lacy - Infrunami 356,617 (-7,854)
153(-16) Peso Pluma, Junior H - LUNA 355,534 (+8,541)
156(-22) Peso Pluma - RUBICON 353,441 (+4,311)
159(-3) KAROL G - AMARGURA 351,808 (+21,304)
161(-16) Carin Leon - Primera Cita 350,608 (+12,020)
171(DEBUT) BLACKPINK - THE GIRLS 337,917
176(-1) Grupo Frontera, Grupo Firme - EL AMOR DE SU VIDA 331,675 (+16,833)
178(-15) HARDY - TRUCK BED 330,078 (+9,018)
179(-19) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 329,788 (+2,709)
180(-23) Taylor Swift - Getaway Car 329,316 (-1,054)
181(-2) Jordan Davis - Next Thing You Know 327,946 (+20,682)
185(-43) Faye Webster - I Know You 323,582 (-17,397)
186(-40) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 323,073 (-15,204)
196(-37) Lil Uzi Vert - Flooded the Face 316,755 (-11,164)
199(-28) Tyler Childers - In Your Love 315,259 (-525)
Biggest Gains (50K+): Burn Burn Burn, Oklahoma Smokeshow, Flowers, Sun to Me, Dawns, Heading South, un x100to, Snooze, Religiously, Seven, QLONA, Something in the Orange, Dance the Night, bad idea right?, MELTDOWN, Cruel Summer, Rich Men North of Richmond, Paint The Town Red
US TOP 20 WITHOUT ZACH BRYAN (S/T album)
#1. Paint the Town Red
#2. Rich Men North of Richmond
#3. Used to Be Young
#4. fukumean
#5. Cruel Summer
#6. Single Soon
#7. Last Night
#8. MELTDOWN
#9. vampire
#10. bad idea right?
#11. Barbie World
#12. Dance the Night
#13. What Was I Made For?
#14. Something in the Orange
#15. I KNOW ?
#16. QLONA
#17. Fast Car
#18. Seven
#19. Kill Bill
#20. Ella Baila Sola
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 26, 2023 13:24:38 GMT -5
yowch i think Blackpink were still popular... also "It's not a coincidence that every country artist as of late who has gotten into the top 10 of the Hot 100 - Morgan Walgreens, Luke Combs, Blackface Aldean, Oliver Anthony, Zach Bryan, even going back to Sam Hunt - is a white male." are you intentionally leaving out a certain someone who had a top 5 hit from a country song last month? That BLACKPINK song isn't a proper single, it's just a cut from a promotional game they're in. READY FOR LOVE was treated the same. It were an acutal comeback single, it wouldn't have been dropped without warning or promo, K-Pop singles don't work like that. Also I looked at the Top 10 singles from last month and the only artist who could fit this "certain someone" hasn't been a fulltime country act in almost a decade, it makes sense Taylor wouldn't be included in discussions about country acts. And no, it charting on the country charts doesn't matter. |
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Post by velaxti on Aug 26, 2023 14:19:54 GMT -5
yowch i think Blackpink were still popular... also "It's not a coincidence that every country artist as of late who has gotten into the top 10 of the Hot 100 - Morgan Walgreens, Luke Combs, Blackface Aldean, Oliver Anthony, Zach Bryan, even going back to Sam Hunt - is a white male." are you intentionally leaving out a certain someone who had a top 5 hit from a country song last month? If we're going as far back as Body Like a Back Road, then there's also been Gabby Barrett. Also, Maren Morris, got top 10 on the year-end chart with The Bones, although that song was like 95% pop to my ears, but she's considered a country artist normally. It doesn't go against your overall point, that country is dominated by white men, but just for the sake of accuracy. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 26, 2023 15:28:57 GMT -5
yowch i think Blackpink were still popular... also "It's not a coincidence that every country artist as of late who has gotten into the top 10 of the Hot 100 - Morgan Walgreens, Luke Combs, Blackface Aldean, Oliver Anthony, Zach Bryan, even going back to Sam Hunt - is a white male." are you intentionally leaving out a certain someone who had a top 5 hit from a country song last month? If we're going as far back as Body Like a Back Road, then there's also been Gabby Barrett. Also, Maren Morris, got top 10 on the year-end chart with The Bones, although that song was like 95% pop to my ears, but she's considered a country artist normally. It doesn't go against your overall point, that country is dominated by white men, but just for the sake of accuracy. I completely forgot about Barrett. Was that song top 10 before the Puth remix? "The Bones" was a long running song but it didn't go top 10 on the Hot 100 (or at Top 40), so it didn't fit what I was saying. |
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Post by Darkest Hour on Aug 27, 2023 3:47:31 GMT -5
US Spotify - Saturday
1 (=) Zach Bryan - I Remember Everything (feat. Kacey Musgraves) (1,963,862 streams)
6 (-1) Zach Bryan - Hey Driver (feat. The War and Treaty) (1,294,039 streams)
7 (-1) Zach Bryan - Spotless (feat. The Lumineers) (1,287,003 streams)
8 (-5) Zach Bryan - East Side of Sorrow (1,233,856 streams)
11 (+3) Zach Bryan - Tourniquet (1,161,279 streams)
12 (-10) Zach Bryan - Overtime (1,154,907 streams)
13 (-5) Zach Bryan - Fear and Friday's (1,138,091 streams)
14 (-10) Zach Bryan - Summertime's Close (1,111,930 streams)
15 (-5) Zach Bryan - Ticking (1,073,573 streams)
16 (-3) Zach Bryan - Holy Roller (feat. Sierra Ferrell) (1,004,146 streams)
19 (-4) Zach Bryan - El Dorado (938,203 streams)
20 (-1) Zach Bryan - Smaller Acts (919,422 streams)
21 (-4) Zach Bryan - Jake's Piano - Long Island (916,609 streams)
23 (-14) Zach Bryan - Fear and Friday's (Poem) (911,754 streams)
24 (-6) Zach Bryan - Tradesman (909,773 streams)
29 (-7) Zach Bryan - Oklahoman Son (825,906 streams)
Total: 17,844,353 streams
10 (+2) Miley Cyrus - Used To Be Young (1,207,853 streams)
22 (-1) Selena Gomez - Single Soon (914,534 streams)
191 (-108) Gucci Mane - There I Go (feat. J. Cole & Mike WiLL Made-It) (301,543 streams)
Fall out of top 200 for Conan Gray and BLACKPINK.
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