Billboard Hot 100: 10/21/2023

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Oct 9, 2023 21:47:21 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I think it's apparent that Drake peaked commercially in 2018, he'll never be bigger than he was that year.

Kinda like The Weeknd in 2020 and that's okay

[atg]

Its clear that Drake is obviously past his peak. But him still doing 400k+ along with occupying almost the entire top 10 for the 4th time now is still impressive and something that we all overlook.

[kcdawg13]

Oct 10, 2023 15:49:19 GMT -5 @stateofgrace said:

Oct 9, 2023 21:47:21 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I think it's apparent that Drake peaked commercially in 2018, he'll never be bigger than he was that year.

Kinda like The Weeknd in 2020 and that's okay

We'll see how the next album does before we call it

[dodgerslakers94]

Taylor Swift shares multiple years: 2014, 2015 and 2023.

[clsvltn]

Oct 10, 2023 9:32:46 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Oct 10, 2023 7:30:25 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

3 #1 hit singles (2 of which were back to back #1 debuts) which spent a combined 29 weeks at #1 (4 #1 hits, if you include Sicko Mode). 
13 top 10 hits. 
#1 IFPI Global Artist. 
Most-streamed artist in the US. 
Best-selling album in the US. 
Most-streamed artist on Spotify. 
Most-streamed artist on Apple Music. 

I don't think there are 5 artists this century who have dominated an entire year like that. Drake managing to do so even once, is an accomplishment in an of itself. 

Usher 2004 and Black Eyed Peas 2009 would be the other similar examples I could think of. Hard to compare given each was in a different chart era. But definitely Drake was a monster in 2018.

I would also like to include Eminem of 2002.  Let's not forget he had a #1 single (one of the Hot 100 biggest), #1 movie, plus #1 soundtrack and a #1 album - one of the best selling albums in history.

I also believe "til I collapse" from that album is the most streamed non-single of all time on spotify.

[tekkenguy]

Oct 10, 2023 17:57:26 GMT -5 clsvltn said:

Oct 10, 2023 9:32:46 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Usher 2004 and Black Eyed Peas 2009 would be the other similar examples I could think of. Hard to compare given each was in a different chart era. But definitely Drake was a monster in 2018.

I would also like to include Eminem of 2002.  Let's not forget he had a #1 single (one of the Hot 100 biggest), #1 movie, plus #1 soundtrack and a #1 album - one of the best selling albums in history.

I also believe "til I collapse" from that album is the most streamed non-single of all time on spotify.

Nelly 2002 anyone?

[clsvltn]

Oct 10, 2023 21:31:41 GMT -5 tekkenguy said:

Oct 10, 2023 17:57:26 GMT -5 clsvltn said:

I would also like to include Eminem of 2002.  Let's not forget he had a #1 single (one of the Hot 100 biggest), #1 movie, plus #1 soundtrack and a #1 album - one of the best selling albums in history.

I also believe "til I collapse" from that album is the most streamed non-single of all time on spotify.

Nelly 2002 anyone?

That was my next pick lol

Jay-Z on 2002s "Excuse Me Miss" - "Only dudes movin' units - Em, Pimp Juice and us"

[atg]

Its crazy that all year its been nothing but quiet with occasional album bombs (Morgan, Lil Uzi, Travis, Olivia, etc) but then Drake, Bad Bunny and Taylor all drop in the same month which will definitely create chaos similar to how it was last year around this time as well.

[85la]

Oct 10, 2023 21:31:41 GMT -5 tekkenguy said:

Oct 10, 2023 17:57:26 GMT -5 clsvltn said:

I would also like to include Eminem of 2002.  Let's not forget he had a #1 single (one of the Hot 100 biggest), #1 movie, plus #1 soundtrack and a #1 album - one of the best selling albums in history.

I also believe "til I collapse" from that album is the most streamed non-single of all time on spotify.

Nelly 2002 anyone?

I mean, every year we can pick someone who was big lol. I think the original conversation centered around those top few years where certain artists dominated especially well, in terms of both huge #1 singles and #1 smash albums, in which case I'd also add Adele's 21 era in 2011-2012.

[lazer]

Katy Perry had a consistent era with Teenage Dream that went from 2010-2012!

[fridayteenage]

Oct 10, 2023 22:32:51 GMT -5 lazer said:

Katy Perry had a consistent era with Teenage Dream that went from 2010-2012!

singles-wise sure.

album-wise it did well but it wasn't amazing.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 10/08/23

Drake - For All the Dogs [23/23]
1(+1) IDGAF 2,243,803 (+373,860) (+20%) *NEW PEAK*
2(-1) First Person Shooter 2,193,315 (+207,415) (+10%)
3(=) Virginia Beach 1,648,219 (+170,684) (+12%)
4(=) Slime You Out 1,339,791 (+70,254)
7(-1) Calling for You 1,212,625 (+92,333)
8(+1) Daylight 1,183,510 (+95,249)
9(-1) Gently 1,180,708 (+69,408)
10(=) Rich Baby Daddy 1,146,179 (+108,861) (+10%)
12(-1) Fear of Heights 1,126,743 (+89,435)
15(-1) 8am in Charlotte 1,039,340 (+80,451)
16(-1) 7969 Santa 1,020,693 (+69,807)
17(+1) Amen 973,540 (+75,270)
18(+2) What Would Pluto Do 948,984 (+82,131)
21(=) Bahamas Paradise 900,103 (+80,124) (+10%)
22(=) Tried Our Best 890,975 (+76,342)
25(-1) Another Late Night 814,754 (+48,940)
27(-2) All the Parties 796,483 (+47,460)
28(-2) Members Only 787,113 (+55,429)
29(=) Drew A Picasso 772,604 (+63,950)
32(-1) Away From Home 698,361 (+44,425)
43(=) Polar Opposites 585,569 (+43,799)
49(-4) BBL Love - Interlude 564,826 (+26,917)
59(-5) Screw the World - Interlude 516,607 (+23,485)
Total Fourth Day Streams: 24,584,845 (+9%)

Top 10 Without 'For All The Dogs'
5(=) Doja Cat - Paint the Town Red 1,314,473 (+65,123)
6(+1) Zach Bryan, Kacey Musgraves - I Remember Everything 1,295,097 (+181,786) (+16%)
11(+2) Tate McRae - greedy 1,132,698 (+158,066) (+16%)
13(+4) Mitski - My Love Mine All Mine 1,121,562 (+213,484) (+24%)
14(-2) Gunna - fukumean 1,040,388 (+20,190)
19(=) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 937,800 (+56,170)
20(-4) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 922,143 (+2,743)
23(=) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 848,504 (+66,092)
24(+3) Travis Scott - I KNOW ? 837,991 (+108,348) (+15%)
26(+2) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 803,251 (+75,911)

Other:
30(=) Olivia Rodrigo - bad idea right? 732,439 (+58,587)
31(+5) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 717,716 (+104,984) (+17%)
33(-1) Kenya Grace - Strangers 690,766 (+66,187) (+11%)
34(=) SZA - Snooze 689,825 (+71,516) (+12%)
36(-1) Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros, Junior H - LADY GAGA 665,857 (+{7,657)
37(+1) Doja Cat - Agora Hills 661,688 (+67,223) (+11%)
38(+1) Travis Scott, Drake - MELTDOWN 644,164 (+62,677) (+11%)
39(-2) KAROL G, Peso Pluma - QLONA 630,759 (+35,562)
40(+1) Lil Tecca - 500lbs 613,960 (+69,120) (+13%)
42(=) Olivia Rodrigo - get him back! 597,729 (+53,253) (+10%)
45(+4) Frank Ocean - Pink + White 583,930 (+70,572) (+14%)
48(+4) Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For? 566,961 (+66,845) (+13%)
50(-2) Jung Kook, Jack Harlow - 3D 564,073 (+45,821)
52(+4) Zach Bryan, The War and Treaty - Hey Driver 562,007 (+71,156) (+14%)
53(+8) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 554,727 (+89,951) (+19%)
54(-3) Luke Combs - Fast Car 549,482 (+41,999)
58(+17) Bad Bunny - UN PREVIEW 518,700 (+98,132) (+23%)
60(+5) Zach Bryan, Noah Kahan - Sarah's Place 515,545 (+69,458) (+16%)
61(-3) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 515,545 (+41,361)
62(-2) Oliver Anthony Music - Rich Men North of Richmond 502,501 (+33,278)
64(-1) Travis Scott, SZA, Future - TELEKINESIS 501,800 (+45,667) (+10%)
67(-10) Dua Lipa - Dance the Night 494,726 (+14,600)
68(-9) Jung Kook, Latto - Seven 494,590 (+22,695)
71(=) Zach Bryan - Heading South 475,759-432,273 (+43,486) (+10%)
72(+2) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 475,196 (+54,434) (+13%)
73(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - all-american bitch 469,204 (+44,466) (+10%)
75(+4) Travis Scott, Playboi Carti - FE!N 465,688 (+56,275) (+14%)
76(+10) Noah Kahan, Kacey Musgraves - She Calls Me Back 465,215 (+79,481) (+21%)
77(+6) Zach Bryan - Tourniquet 459,708 (+66,237) (+17%)
80(-12) Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice - Barbie World 440,753 (-284)
82(-6) Myke Towers - LALA 439,879 (+21,424)
83(+5) David Kushner - Daylight 439,157 (+54,684) (+14%)
84(+12) Taylor Swift - cardigan 434,958 (+58,063) (+15%)
85(+6) Noah Kahan, Post Malone - Dial Drunk Remix 430,701 (+51,828) (+14%)
86(+11) Tyla - Water 427,959 (+52,229) (+14%) *NEW PEAK*
87(+6) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 427,066 (+49,505) (+13%)
89(-9) Taylor Swift - Style 421,369 (+15,889)
93(-9) Calle 24, Chino Pacas, Fuerza Regida - Que Onda 411,157 (+18,697)
95(+5) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 409,762 (+37,545) (+10%)
100(+4) Taylor Swift - august 404,145 (+39,183) (+11%)

104(-15) Taylor Swift - Blank Space 393,037 (+8,846)
107(+13) Olivia Rodrigo - the grudge 390,185 (+53,215) (+16%)
108(-10) Ice Spice - Deli 387,606 (+12,832)
110(+28) Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners - Evergreen 384,983 (+68,555) (+22%) *NEW PEAK*
111(-3) Malum, Carin Leon - Según Quién 383,826 (+29,398)
114(-7) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 381,931 (+25,113)
115(-1) Laufey - From the Start 380,619 (+34,139) (+10%)
117(+10) Peso Pluma, Jasiel Nuñez - LAGUNAS 378,698 (+47,345) (+14%)
118(+16) Olivia Rodrigo - lacy 378,628 (+55,460) (+17%)
120(+5) TV Girl - Not Allowed 377,065 (+42,907) (+13%)
123(+1) SUICIDAL-IDOL - ecstacy (slowed) 367,623 (+32,331) (+10%) *NEW PEAK*
129(-14) Fuerza Regida - SABOR FRESA 363,611 (+18,514)
131(+8) Steve Lacy - Infrunami 358,542 (+42,525) (+13%)
134(+30) Zach Bryan, The Lumineers - Spotless 356,935 (+61,166) (+21%)
137(-6) Jessie Murphy, Jelly Roll - Wild Ones 351,161 (+25,490)
143(+25) Zach Bryan, Bon Iver - Boys of Faith 341,642 (+51,113) (+18%)
146(-14) Peso Pluma, Grupo Frontera - TULUM 339,209 (+15,059)
153(-11) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 332,223 (+20,591)
158(-13) Tyler Childers - All Your'n 328,405 (+19,737)
159(-7) juju<3 - Wasted Summers 327,773 (+24,120)
160(re-entry) Peso Pluma, Jasiel Nuñez, Junior H - BIPOLAR 325,254
163(-4) NewJeans - GODS 322,056 (+20,268)
168(-1) Zach Bryan - Revival 318,560 (+24,933)
172(+5) The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, Madonna - Popular 315,862 (+32,802) (+12%)
179(-16) Tyler Childers - Feathered Indians 312,286 (+16,023)
181(+8) Rod Wave, 21 Savage - Turks & Caicos 311,922 (+34,167) (+12%)
183(+2) Rod Wave - Boyz Don't Cry 310,988 (+32,322) (+12%)
189(re-entry) Junior H - Y LLORO 308,128
198(re-entry) That Mexican OT, Paul Wall, DRODi - Johnny Dang 301,303
199(re-entry) Steve Lacy - C U Girl 299,985

Biggest Gains (50K+): Boys of Faith, Spotless, Apocalypse, lacy, Evergreen, the grudge, Everlong, The Night We Met, Water, Dial Drunk, cardigan, Daylight [David Kushner], Tourniquet, She Calls Me Back, FE!N, Lovers Rock, Religiously, Romantic Homicide, we fell in love in october, Shut up My Moms Calling, Sarah's Place, UN PREVIEW, Dark Red, Clouded, Hey Driver, What Was I Made For?, Sweater Weather, No Role Modelz, Pink + White, get him back, See You Again, 500lbs, MELTDOWN, Agora Hills, Snooze, Strangers, Stick Season, bad idea right?, Drew A Picasso, Memebers Only, Something in the Orange, I KNOW ?, Vampire, Tried Our Best, Bahamas Paradise, Last Night, What Would Pluto Do, Amen, 7969 Santa, 8am in Charlotte, My Love Mine All Mine, Fear of Heights, greedy, Rich Baby Daddy, Gently, Daylight [Drake], Calling For You, I Remember Everything, Paint the Town Red, Slime You Out, Virginia Beach, First Person Shooter, IDGAF

US TOP 20 WITHOUT FOR ALL THE DOGS
#1. Paint the Town Red
#2. I Remember Everything
#3. greedy
#4. My Love Mine All Mine *NEW PEAK*
#5. fukumean
#6. Last Night
#7. Cruel Summer
#8. vampire
#9. I KNOW ?
#10. Something in the Orange

#11. bad idea right?
#12. Stick Season *NEW PEAK*
#13. Strangers
#14. Snooze
#15. Kill Bill
#16. LADY GAGA
#17. Agora Hills
#18. MELTDOWN
#19. QLONA
#20. 500lbs

[neel]

Weezy was also dominating shit in 2008. Same with T-Pain the year prior and ‘08.

[thegreatdivine]

4th song off For All the Dogs to reach #1 on US Apple Music.

[thegreatdivine]

Most #1s on US Apple Music
Drake — 60
Lil Baby — 19
Future — 16
Travis Scott — 15
Gunna — 13
J. Cole — 13
Cardi B — 11
Lil Durk — 10
Bad Bunny — 8
Kanye West — 8
Post Malone — 8
The Weeknd — 8
21 Savage — 7
Ariana Grande — 7
Kendrick Lamar — 7
DaBaby — 6
DJ Khaled — 6
Justin Bieber — 6
Taylor Swift — 6
Lil Uzi Vert — 5
Megan Thee Stallion — 5
Nicki Minaj — 5
SZA — 5
Beyoncè — 4
Juice WRLD — 4
6ix9ine — 3
Swae Lee — 3
Lil Wayne — 3
Offset — 3
Olivia Rodrigo — 3
Quavo — 3

[velaxti]

Oct 10, 2023 22:23:48 GMT -5 85la said:

Oct 10, 2023 21:31:41 GMT -5 tekkenguy said:

Nelly 2002 anyone?

I mean, every year we can pick someone who was big lol. I think the original conversation centered around those top few years where certain artists dominated especially well, in terms of both huge #1 singles and #1 smash albums, in which case I'd also add Adele's 21 era in 2011-2012.

That's an interesting question actually. Has there ever been a year where there hasn't been dominant artists?

But anyway, I think people really need to learn to just accept it when artists have a decline in commercial performance, because it has to inevitably happen to every big artist. Like it's even happened to massive stars like Madonna, Mariah Carey, Eminem, Usher, Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, Adele, Lady Gaga, etc. I genuinely think it's impossible for it not to happen. At some point we have to stop being shocked, and instead celebrate their success (as well as acknowledging in cases that even after a decline they're still doing really well). It even happened to Taylor Swift before, and will happen again at some point.

[king_billboard_100]

This is the week Drake gonna tie Michael Jackson #1s (without Jackson 5) and First J Cole #1?

Also i guess iDGAF gonna debut at No. 2
Virginia Beach No. 3

Doja & SZA might still stay in top 10

Anyway still impressive win for Drake!

[jasper0102]

Is IDGAF gonna be the highest song during the 2nd week atr?

[mylo]

Could Drake be number 1 this week and next week with First Person Shooter and then IDGAF

[👑 Eloquent ™]

So with his streams Drake isn't likely to occupy the entire top 10 on the Hot 100 this next week?

[fridayteenage]

maybe idgaf blocks shoot altogether

[king_billboard_100]

J cole needs video

[thegreatdivine]

Seeing as FPS went #1 on US Apple Music before 24 hours and debuted at #1 on US Spotify as well with a healthy lead over IDGAF and managed to maintain said lead for about 4 days, I'd say even with IDGAF's streaming gains, FPS still debuts at #1, if only by a narrow margin.

IDGAF will rise to #2 the following week if its streaming gains continue.

Also gotta keep an eye out for RBD w/ Sexyy Red & SZA. It's risen from #18 to now #5 on US Apple Music. I could see it managing a top 10 debut and then rising the following week and after that, who knows? Gently w/ Bad Bunny is also stable in streams.

So far, those seem to be the 4 songs off Drake's album to keep an eye on.

[mms82]

Rich Baby Daddy is sooooo good, it deserves the success. I wish it was the lead instead of SYO, SZA and Drake still each get a number one and this song gets a moment in the sun to be added to playlists

[neel]

I think “IDGAF” probably ends up being the “Rich Flex” or “Knife Talk” of the album, has longevity strong enough to continue into the next year but doesn’t reach No. 1

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2023 » / « 10 » / « 11 »

1(=) SZA - Snooze 87.26(-0.10)
2(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 85.61(-0.10)
3(=) Luke Combs - Fast Car 81.96(-1.28)
4(=) Doja Cat - Paint The Town Red 71.91(+0.51)
5(=) Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down 70.27(-0.10)
6(=) Nicki Minaj & Ice Spice - Barbie World (with Aqua) [From Barbie The Album] 60.67(-0.60)
7(=) Dua Lipa - Dance The Night 60.26(-0.83)
8(+1) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 55.20(-0.11)
9(-1) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 55.04(-0.52)
10(=) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 50.58(-0.21)

13(=) Miley Cyrus - Used To Be Young 46.88(+0.63)

72(+6) Victoria Monét - On My Mama 15.71(+0.88)

82(+5) Tate McRae - greedy 13.67(+0.70)

[korbel16]

i mean if anyone were to beat michael jackson’s record, it’d be the hot 100 king himself (Drake)… although let’s be real, getting a number 1 in MJ’s time was very difficult, especially 13 of them.

[hughster1]

Oct 11, 2023 12:17:26 GMT -5 korbel16 said:

i mean if anyone were to beat michael jackson’s record, it’d be the hot 100 king himself (Drake)… although let’s be real, getting a number 1 in MJ’s time was very difficult, especially 13 of them.

And of course, if you count number ones on which he had a lead vocal, he's got either 17 (with the four Jackson 5 songs) or 18 (if you also count "We Are the World," which probably shouldn't count since no one there has a "lead" vocal).

[Mayman]

Oct 11, 2023 1:57:33 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Most #1s on US Apple Music
Drake — 60
Lil Baby — 19
Future — 16
Travis Scott — 15
Gunna — 13
J. Cole — 13
Cardi B — 11
Lil Durk — 10
Bad Bunny — 8
Kanye West — 8
Post Malone — 8
The Weeknd — 8
21 Savage — 7
Ariana Grande — 7
Kendrick Lamar — 7
DaBaby — 6
DJ Khaled — 6
Justin Bieber — 6
Taylor Swift — 6
Lil Uzi Vert — 5
Megan Thee Stallion — 5
Nicki Minaj — 5
SZA — 5
Beyoncè — 4
Juice WRLD — 4
6ix9ine — 3
Swae Lee — 3
Lil Wayne — 3
Offset — 3
Olivia Rodrigo — 3
Quavo — 3

Do you have a list of Drake's #1s here? I'm curious which ones got there

[awkwardowl]

Oct 10, 2023 7:30:25 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Oct 9, 2023 21:47:21 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I think it's apparent that Drake peaked commercially in 2018, he'll never be bigger than he was that year.

3 #1 hit singles (2 of which were back to back #1 debuts) which spent a combined 29 weeks at #1 (4 #1 hits, if you include Sicko Mode). 
13 top 10 hits. 
#1 IFPI Global Artist. 
Most-streamed artist in the US. 
Best-selling album in the US. 
Most-streamed artist on Spotify. 
Most-streamed artist on Apple Music. 

I don't think there are 5 artists this century who have dominated an entire year like that. Drake managing to do so even once, is an accomplishment in an of itself. 

Disagree on this one because to the dominance of Usher in 2004 and Eminem in 2002 we can add:
Adele in 2011 with the best-selling album of the century and a Hot 100/Billboard 200 double (also God's Plan had only a slight edge over Perfect in the Hot 100 YE)
Morgan in 2023 with his 16+16 on the chart and also a solid Hot 100/Billboard 200 double
Taylor in 2023 with albeit a slight lead on the charts, but just unreal streaming and sales numbers. I think even a year ago it was hard to imagine a situation where someone would soon overtake Drake in terms of listens as a lead artist on Spotify, but Taylor will probably do it in 3-4 weeks (Drake's lead in total streams is still colossal)
I wouldn't want to understate Drake's accomplishments, but would suggest that Drake's main chart hallmark is how long his career has been going at such a high level without any significant declines, despite the fact that his first big success have come relatively quickly.