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Post by SHOOTER on Apr 15, 2024 17:09:50 GMT -5
Thank god we were on the same accord with Speed Demon. If I never hear it again, it'll still be too soon.
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 16, 2024 10:34:15 GMT -5
Welcome back! The first song leaving us now will see someone lose their #1. Eight people will lose a bottom 5.
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 16, 2024 11:07:50 GMT -5
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Apr 16, 2024 11:39:30 GMT -5
Finally a perfect ranking. Love this song!
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 16, 2024 11:42:39 GMT -5
Well, they say the sky's the limit And to me that's really true But my friend, you have seen nothin' Just wait 'til I get through4. Bad"Bad" was inspired by a true story MJ had read about a kid who grew up in the ghetto and tried to escape by attending private school, but was killed by his friends when he returned for Thanksgiving break. The single was released in September 1987 as the second single from Bad. It topped the soul, dance, and Hot 100 charts, and hit #1 in six other countries. The music video, 18 minutes in length, premiered as part of a special on CBS the same day the album was released. Directed by Martin Scorsese, it features Wesley Snipes in one of his earliest appearances and was influenced by West Side Story. "Bad" was originally intended to be a duet with Prince, but he declined, taking issue with the opening line "Your butt is mine". Prince instead offered the song "Wouldn't You Love To Love Me", but MJ turned that down. Apologies to beyoncelover, poopshark, jtd Thee Stallion, and annoymous1... Points: 235 Average: 4.42 Standard Deviation: 2.527 (4th highest)beyoncelover - 1 poopshark - 1 jtd Thee Stallion - 1 annoymous1 - 1 B-Boy - 2 bat1990 - 2 TheOutcast - 2 Mayman - 3 zippy - 3 Ivy Leegue™ - 3 erosthegreekgod - 3 SHOOTER - 3 Soulsista - 4sportytheartist - 4divasummer - 4mamooshka - 4rowellfarm490 - 4samo🦕 - 4Mirago - 4.indulgecountry - 4RoseColoredGirl - 5 • Господин Умљеновић • - 6 wyckyd - 6 tallen2001 - 6 singingrulebritannia - 7 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 - 7 newpower - 7 jenglisbe - 8 #LisaRinna - 8 God - 10 312999 - 10 Taking the bronze is the song that has the 2nd highest SD. Five people will lose their #1, six more will get rid of a bottom 5.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Apr 16, 2024 11:45:44 GMT -5
Make that change! :(
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Post by 312999 on Apr 16, 2024 12:09:28 GMT -5
Not a Bad song at all, just a strong album that something had to be low.
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 16, 2024 12:12:32 GMT -5
I've been a victim of a selfish kind of love It's time that I realize That there are some with no home Not a nickel to loan Could it be really me pretending that they're not alone?3. Man In The Mirror"Man In The Mirror" was one of two songs on Bad not written by MJ (the other being "Just Good Friends"). Written by Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett, who also provides background vocals, it was released in January 1988 as the album's fourth single. It topped the soul and Hot 100 charts, and has hit the Top 10 in four other countries. The instrumental intro at the end of his memorial service in 2009. The song came about after Quincy Jones invited a group of songwriters to his house and asked them to write for Michael's next album. Garrett came with th line about a man looking in the mirror, and Ballard came up with the melody. A demo was recorded within a week, and was approved for the album. A longer middle eight as added and the lyrics were modified at MJ's request, and the Andraé Crouch Choir provided additional vocals. Here's his performance at the Grammy Awards in 1988. Apologies to sportytheartist, 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲, 312999, #LisaRinna, and .indulgecountry... Points: 245 Average: 4.10 Standard Deviation: 2.844 (2nd highest)sportytheartist - 1 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 - 1 312999 - 1 #LisaRinna - 1 .indulgecountry - 1 jenglisbe - 2 • Господин Умљеновић • - 2 RoseColoredGirl - 2 Ivy Leegue™ - 2 samo🦕 - 2 erosthegreekgod - 2 Mirago - 2 Soulsista - 3beyoncelover - 3mamooshka - 3newpower - 3TheOutcast - 3B-Boy - 4 SHOOTER - 4 Mayman - 5 tallen2001 - 5 divasummer - 5 annoymous1 - 5 singingrulebritannia - 6 bat1990 - 6 rowellfarm490 - 7 jtd Thee Stallion - 7 zippy - 9 poopshark - 9 wyckyd - 10 God - 11
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Post by beyoncelover on Apr 16, 2024 12:13:12 GMT -5
Lmao the way I forgot that I put "Bad" at #1. I was expecting that to be my #4 when looking for my stats but lol guess not, haha.
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 16, 2024 12:16:31 GMT -5
vs.They're separated by just two points! Which song will come out on top, "The Way You Make Me Feel" or "Smooth Criminal"? The final 2 will be revealed later today!
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Post by beyoncelover on Apr 16, 2024 12:20:36 GMT -5
5. Dirty Diana: Oooh nice yayyy my first perfect rank of this rankdown, with this being my #5! This is a strong, great and memorable rock track from Michael. I do love this and it's great from him - but sadly it's not as iconic as the incredible 4 songs that are remaining. 4. Bad: Wait up, OMGG WHOA I did not remember putting "Bad" at #1, but looking at my list I see that I did? Oh snapp, wow. I don't know if I agree with this now but I do clearly really love this song and it's iconic. But I guess listening to these songs all together made me put this 1st? But still an amazing, iconic song and wish it could have gone higher but it's such a toss up with this Top 4. 3. Man In The Mirror: Oooh yayy I'm happy to get another perfect rank here with this song being my #3. This is such a beautiful, moving song and I do absolutely love it. Michael sounds great here and love the message of this song. Oooh such an iconic Top 2! It's my #2 vs. my #4. Hoping for my #2 to win but I think my #4 will take the win. Both would be amazing winners.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 16, 2024 12:20:55 GMT -5
Prince instead offered the song "Wouldn't You Love To Love Me", but MJ turned that down. Oh wow, I didn't know that fact. I think it could have worked well for Prince and MJ, but it certainly didn't carry the type of message MJ seemed to want to portray with "Bad." I just don't like some of the lyrics on "Bad." I'm sad to see "Man in the Mirror" at #3. I put it at #2 and kind of wished I'd put it at #1. It's one of the few 'message' songs that really work for me. It's just a beautiful song sung really well. I love both songs in the top 2, but "The Way You Make Me Feel" is the first MJ song I remember hearing/loving and I have loved it since. I hope it wins, though in hindsight the video is pretty cringe.
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Post by • Господин Умљеновић • on Apr 16, 2024 12:45:13 GMT -5
No... Not The way you make me feel as #1
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Post by zippy on Apr 16, 2024 12:48:23 GMT -5
Dirty Diana - I haven't heard this one as many times as Beat It but it doesn't hit me as hard as I remember. Still a good hard rock song.
Bad - I have thought of this as one of my favorite MJ songs because of its beat and addicting chorus. And not to forget this song was in the Megamind movie.
Man In The Mirror - This is an iconic song but I feel that I've heard it too many times to fully appreciate it. Still, I agree with its message and I think the choir and key change help the song.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 16, 2024 12:49:39 GMT -5
"Man in the Mirror" has literally saved lives
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 16, 2024 17:05:52 GMT -5
And here we go, the final 2... Hey, pretty baby with the high heels on You give me fever like I've never ever known You're just a product of loveliness I like the groove of your walk, your talk, your dress2. The Way You Make Me Feel"The Way You Make Me Feel" was released in November 1987 as the third single from Bad. It went straight to the top of the soul, dance, and Hot 100 charts. It also hit #1 in Ireland and Spain, the latter happening after its 2006 re-release. The music video, over 9 minutes in full, features model Tatiana Thumbtzen as well as MJ's sister La Toya. The song originally had the working title "Hot Fever". Points: 288 Average: 2.71 Standard Deviation: 1.736 (3rd lowest)Soulsista - 1 jenglisbe - 1 RoseColoredGirl - 1 B-Boy - 1 mamooshka - 1 bat1990 - 1 erosthegreekgod - 1 SHOOTER - 1 Mirago - 1 Mayman - 2beyoncelover - 2God - 2divasummer - 2rowellfarm490 - 2newpower - 2annoymous1 - 2#LisaRinna - 2.indulgecountry - 2sportytheartist - 3 wyckyd - 3 poopshark - 3 samo🦕 - 3 singingrulebritannia - 4 tallen2001 - 4 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 - 4 Ivy Leegue™ - 4 zippy - 5 jtd Thee Stallion - 5 TheOutcast - 5 • Господин Умљеновић • - 7 312999 - 7
Which means.. As he came into the window It was the sound of a crescendo He came into her apartment He left the bloodstains on the carpet1. Smooth Criminal"Smooth Criminal" was developed from an earlier song MJ had written titled "Al Capone". It was released in November 1988 as the seventh single from Bad, peaking at #2 on the soul chart and #7 on the Hot 100. It also hit #1 in five other countries. The music video is taken from Moonwalker, and pays tribute to the musical The Band Wagon. It features Michael and the dancers doing a 45-degree lean; this was achieved using a harness and some cables. Congrats to newpower for a perfect Top 3! Points: 290 Average: 2.65 Standard Deviation: 1.496 (Lowest)Mayman - 1zippy - 1God - 1singingrulebritannia - 1tallen2001 - 1rowellfarm490 - 1Ivy Leegue™ - 1newpower - 1samo🦕 - 1TheOutcast - 1Soulsista - 2 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 - 2 mamooshka - 2 312999 - 2 SHOOTER - 2 jenglisbe - 3 RoseColoredGirl - 3 B-Boy - 3 divasummer - 3 jtd Thee Stallion - 3 annoymous1 - 3 .indulgecountry - 3 • Господин Умљеновић • - 4 beyoncelover - 4 bat1990 - 4 poopshark - 4 erosthegreekgod - 4 sportytheartist - 5 wyckyd - 5 Mirago - 5 #LisaRinna - 6 And that concludes Michael Jackson's "Bad": The Rankdown! Thanks to everyone who participated.
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Post by RoseColoredGirl on Apr 16, 2024 17:13:44 GMT -5
I was hoping for "The Way You Make Me Feel" to take the win since it was my #1, but "Smooth Criminal" is a great winner too! Thanks for hosting Soulsista, this was a lot of fun!
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Post by samo🦕 on Apr 16, 2024 17:15:11 GMT -5
iconic top 2 but the winner is correct imo - it's still unbelievable that this wasn't as big as the rest of the singles at the time
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Post by B-Boy on Apr 16, 2024 17:24:21 GMT -5
My top 3 was neck-to-neck. I would've been fine with either of them going number one.
I always felt like "Bad" was the signature song off the album.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Apr 16, 2024 17:53:05 GMT -5
YESSSSSS Smooth Criminal. I was worried Way You Make Me Feel would win. Thanks Soulsista!
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Post by SHOOTER on Apr 16, 2024 18:47:53 GMT -5
I knew this would win but I'm just glad superior taste did recognize the immaculate greatness of TWYMMF. Thanks for hosting Soulsista
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 16, 2024 19:29:33 GMT -5
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Post by zippy on Apr 16, 2024 19:41:53 GMT -5
I was confident that Smooth Criminal would end up winning, although the score was closer than I expected. No doubt it’s one of MJ’s greatest danceable hits and I haven’t gotten tired of it one bit.
I cannot say I like TWYMMF as much as his other hits because the song’s rhythm always felt kind of odd. Still a pretty good song. In fact, I heard it playing on the speakers earlier today when I walked in an Amazon warehouse.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 16, 2024 23:56:27 GMT -5
The top 3 was my top 3, just in a different order, so I ain't mad at it!
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Post by Mayman on Apr 17, 2024 1:12:04 GMT -5
Glad Smooth Criminal won, definitely within my favorites from him overall. Looking forward to an eventual Dangerous rankdown!
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Post by • Господин Умљеновић • on Apr 17, 2024 1:22:54 GMT -5
Was listening to Dangerous yesterday
No doubt his best album. For me
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Post by beyoncelover on Apr 17, 2024 1:42:53 GMT -5
2. The Way You Make Me Feel: Oooh yess, I really love this song and think it's such an iconic song. Yay for another perfect ranking as I did rank this at #2 as well. I did have a feeling that this song wouldn't win so I am not surprised. I am surprised to see 9 #1 rankings for this song as I did not think this would get so much. Wow lors of perfect ranks with all of those #2s. :o
1. Smooth Criminal: While this song is my #4, I can not and am not mad about this song winning the game as it truly deserves to. Wow at 10 #1 rankings here but I get it. Again, this is simply iconic and an amazing/fantastic song. The song, the video, the impact, etc - it is all so iconic. I love everything about this song, as it's so fun, catchy but still got that effect to it to this day. Wow at nearly all of the rankings in the Top 5 except for that one #6. Very impressive ranks. :o
Yayy I'm good with the 3 perfect ranks! And I can't wait for the next Billboard #1 R&B Songs series rankdown!
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Post by Mayman on Apr 17, 2024 2:18:41 GMT -5
Was listening to Dangerous yesterday No doubt his best album. For me I agree! Love the new jack swing tracks on it especially.
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Post by balletgirlmom on Apr 18, 2024 13:18:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the MJ estate has any new stuff to release? For some reason, I thought he had so many unreleased songs. I mean more than what we have alfready officially got.
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