Billboard Hot 100: 05/25/2024

[fridayteenage]

Without Taylor that week, Sabrina would've been number six which is lower than her actual peak so

[sayhey]

May 15, 2024 14:41:44 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

May 15, 2024 14:30:25 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

What a time to break out for Sabrina. A very strong case for a Song of The Summer and number one. DAYS later, we get the biggest rap beef in decades, the biggest non Taylor debut ever and Million dollar baby putting up all time numbers 💀.

Gonna have the biggest number 4 peaking song ever

"Thriller" has entered the chat.

But yeah, bad timing for Sabrina.

Thriller's chart run always intrigued me. It was the 7th and final single off its eponymous album and made a strong #20 debut in February 1984, then shot to #5 and then peaked at #4 for two weeks. It experienced a fairly typical descent down the charts for early-mid 80s standards (#6 - #11 - #15 - #23 - #47 - #69 - #77 - #96 - #99), ranking at #78 on the YEC. The single was certified platinum in 1989 (when the platinum certification for singles was lowered to 1 million). 

To me, it always seemed the physical release of Thriller was suppressed to an extent in order to sell the album. The music video premiered on December 2, 1983 on MTV and caused a massive sensation, propelling the album back to number one on December 24, where it stayed for a further 17 weeks until April 14, 1984, making it 1984's biggest-seller in the process, for a second consecutive year. It seems obvious Epic preferred selling the album over the single, as evidenced by the massive rebound of the album as compared to the relatively modest performance of the single. Added to that, the Making Michael Jackson's Thriller VHS became the first home video to sell a million copies (reportedly eventually reaching 10 million, I would assume globally), which obviously didn't count towards its Billboard's placement and technically further hurt its chart performance.

It's also noteworthy that the Thriller single was sandwiched between two big singles featuring Michael, namely Say Say Say (#1 for 6 weeks) and Somebody's Watching Me (#2), which performed much better on the Hot 100, so this could have further contributed to its limited physical availability in an effort to avoid market oversaturation and/or overexposure. 

Thriller also topped the CHR chart on Radio & Records for the week of February 10, 1984 and remained in the top 3 for 5 weeks, making it a big airplay hit. So this would definitely imply a limited physical availability, as it topped the radio component of the chart.

In any case, the Thriller single was obviously a staggeringly massive cultural phenomenon, which catapulted the album to a second commercial peak after its initial early-mid 1983 peak with Billie Jean and Beat It. But that isn't reflected in its chart performance, as it essentially sold the album and VHS through its juggernaut music video and limited commercial release. Basically, even if it was never released physically and never charted on the Hot 100, the music video would've likely sold the album and VHS just the same. And, conversely, if the single was given a wider retail release, it would've likely been a big #1 on the Hot 100.

Anyway, sorry for rambling, just always found its chart-run interesting lol! 

[neel]

May 15, 2024 18:19:36 GMT -5 sayhey said:

May 15, 2024 14:41:44 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

"Thriller" has entered the chat.

But yeah, bad timing for Sabrina.

Thriller's chart run always intrigued me. It was the 7th and final single off its eponymous album and made a strong #20 debut in February 1984, then shot to #5 and then peaked at #4 for two weeks. It experienced a fairly typical descent down the charts for early-mid 80s standards (#6 - #11 - #15 - #23 - #47 - #69 - #77 - #96 - #99), ranking at #78 on the YEC. The single was certified platinum in 1989 (when the platinum certification for singles was lowered to 1 million). 

To me, it always seemed the physical release of Thriller was suppressed to an extent in order to sell the album. The music video premiered on December 2, 1983 on MTV and caused a massive sensation, propelling the album back to number one on December 24, where it stayed for a further 17 weeks until April 14, 1984, making it 1984's biggest-seller in the process, for a second consecutive year. It seems obvious Epic preferred selling the album over the single, as evidenced by the massive rebound of the album as compared to the relatively modest performance of the single. Added to that, the Making Michael Jackson's Thriller VHS became the first home video to sell a million copies (reportedly eventually reaching 10 million, I would assume globally), which obviously didn't count towards its Billboard's placement and technically further hurt its chart performance.

It's also noteworthy that the Thriller single was sandwiched between two big singles featuring Michael, namely Say Say Say (#1 for 6 weeks) and Somebody's Watching Me (#2), which performed much better on the Hot 100, so this could have further contributed to its limited physical availability in an effort to avoid market oversaturation and/or overexposure. 

Thriller also topped the CHR chart on Radio & Records for the week of February 10, 1984 and remained in the top 3 for 5 weeks, making it a big airplay hit. So this would definitely imply a limited physical availability, as it topped the radio component of the chart.

In any case, the Thriller single was obviously a staggeringly massive cultural phenomenon, which catapulted the album to a second commercial peak after its initial early-mid 1983 peak with Billie Jean and Beat It. But that isn't reflected in its chart performance, as it essentially sold the album and VHS through its juggernaut music video and limited commercial release. Basically, even if it was never released physically and never charted on the Hot 100, the music video would've likely sold the album and VHS just the same. And, conversely, if the single was given a wider retail release, it would've likely been a big #1 on the Hot 100.

Anyway, sorry for rambling, just always found its chart-run interesting lol! 

That period (1984-1991) before SoundScan was used as the main methodology for Billboard was just so weird and very inaccurate. So many huge hits like "We Are the World," "Like a Prayer," "Bad," were doing insane numbers in their first few weeks did not accurately reflect on the Hot 100. Even weirder that none of the official numbers (sales & airplay) that they used to compose the Hot 100 are even public.

[jenglisbe]

"Espresso" is and likely will remain a bigger hit than "Fortnight," chart peak be damned.

[SPRΞΞ]

although not Top 10, let's not pretend like Chemical was a flop. It wasn't. For me, personally, it was my favorite song of 2023. Plus it was Top 10 on Pop.

[clsvltn]

Yeah, Post had a "smaller" era for sure recently, but he is still one of the biggest artists of all time. I mean he has 12 songs over 1 billion streams including 3 over 2 billion and a few others over 1.9 billion. Even Chemical is nearly 500 million which many artists would kill for. I think his country sounding songs just really appealed to people and he was always super likable anyway. It was a smart move to pivot and it seems it will pay off greatly

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 05/14/24

1(=) Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY 5,480,779 (-15,042)
2(=) Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 5,289,958 (-49,956)
3(=) Post Malone, Morgan Wallen - I Had Some Help 4,712,863 (+611,368) (+15%)
4(=) Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 2,796,567 (-4,272)
5(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 2,593,678 (+128,284)
6(=) Kendrick Lamar - euphoria 2,140,727 (-23,298)
7(=) Taylor Swift, Post Malone - Fortnight 1,979,866 (-48,955)
8(=) Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick Lamar - Like That 1,962,307 (+7,215)
9(=) Hozier - Too Sweet 1,777,988 (+19,867)
10(=) Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With A Broken Heart 1,694,314 (+46,666)

Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department [16/16]
12(=) Down Bad 1,333,953 (-4,938)
15(-1) Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? 1,140,405 (-12,803)
22(-2) So Long, London 1,018,217 (-29,934)
23(-2) But Daddy I Love Him 1,003,370 (-25,861)
25(-3) Guilty as Sin? 988,854 (-21,647)
29(-3) My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 932,623 (-19,718)
31(-1) The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 896,954 (-5,677)
34(-3) Florida!!!! 877,348 (-22,972)
36(-2) The Tortured Poets Department 838,199 (-13,499)
55(-7) The Alchemy 716,061 (-26,146)
57(-4) loml 701,535 (-14,416)
62(-4) Fresh Out the Slammer 662,749 (-18,956)
81(-7) I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 570,365 (-12,342)
91(-6) Clara Bow 540,557 (-13,376)
Total Twenty-sixth Day Streams: 15,895,370 (-1.52%)

Taylor Swift - THE ANTHOLOGY [12/15]
50(-5) So High School 744,516 (-24,479)
61(+1) imgonnagetyouback 667,993 (+4,285)
76(-8) The Black Dog 595,638 (-8,447)
89(-2) The Prophecy 543,704 (-8,346)
102(-3) How Did It End? 508,861 (-6,021)
123(-5) I Hate It Here 467,338 (-10,430)
131(-9) The Albatross 456,215 (-16,656)
146(-11) The Bolter 433,236 (-12,725)
148(-12) Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus 431,182 (-13,379)
150(-11) thanK you aIMee 429,782 (-10,312)
167(-11) Peter 411,699 (-10,268)
175(-7) I Look in People's Windows 402,385 (-2,643)
Total Twenty-sixth Day Streams: 6,092,549 (-1.92%)

Overall Twenty-sixth Day Streams: 21,987,919 (-1.63%)

Other:
11(=) Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 1,424,669 (+55,581)
13(=) Artemas - i like the way you kiss me 1,310,755 (+35,288)
14(+2) Chapell Roan - Good Luck, Babe! 1,186,879 (+43,525)
17(-2) Kendrick Lamar - meet the grahams 1,097,423 (+3,662)
18(+1) SZA - Saturn 1,057,627 (-635)
19(+4) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 1,050,937 (+44,797)
20(+5) Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love) 1,028,422 (+50,862)
21(-3) Drake - Family Matters 1,026,663 (-35,550)
24(=) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 995,546 (+17,744)
26(+2) Future, Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, Playboi Carti - Type Shit 975,307 (+24,487)
27(=) Djo - End of Beginning 959,422 (+8,349)
28(+1) FloyyMenor, Cris Mj - Gata Only 949,108 (+20,664)
30(+2) Dasha - Austin 931,376 (+46,001)
32(+1) Benson Boone - Slow It Down 894,719 (+23,296)
37(+5) Sexyy Red - Get It Sexy 821,215 (+33,064)
42(-2) Travis Scott, Playboi Carti - FE!N 785,543 (-21,648)
43(-5) Bryson Tiller - Whatever She Wants 785,215 (-23,257)
44(-3) Morgan Wallen, ERNEST - Cowgirls 773,931 (-17,718)
45(-2) Drake - Push Ups 773,902 (-1,591)
46(+5) Michael Marcagi - Scared to Start 772,144 (+47,450)
48(+1) 21 Savage - redrum 760,493 (+32,860)
49(+10) Mark Ambor - Belong Together 746,499 (+67,150) (+10%) *NEW PEAK*
51(+6) GloRilla - Yeah Glo! 737,712 (+50,386)
52(=) Gunna - one of wun 734,562 (+11,730)
54(+2) Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY (VHS) 716,691 (+29,085)
56(-1) Lay Bankz - Tell Ur Girlfriend 707,039 (+12,412)
58(+3) Don Toliver - Bandit 693,471 (+29,028)
59(+6) GloRilla, Megan Thee Stallion - Wanna Be 688,432 (+71,775) (+12%)
65(+6) Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 631,699 (+39,952)
66(+10) BigXthaPlug - Back On My BS 630,324 (+49,322)
67(+2) BigXthaPlug - Mmhmm 629,838 (+25,948)
68(-5) Rich Amiri - ONE CALL 628,046 (-5,235)
69(+32) Myles Smith - Stargazing 620,555 (+113,928) (+22%) *NEW PEAK*
73(+8) Zach Bryan - Heading South 604,478 (+33,128)
75(-2) Flo Milli - Never Lose Me 596,354 (+9,334)
79(-1) Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock - Money Trees 585,089 (+8,916)
80(+4) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 575,031 (+17,847)
82(-10) Tucker Wetmore - Wind Up Missin' You 569,505 (-21,607)
83(-1) Chappell Roan - Red Wine Supernova 560,568 (-5,184)
84(+8) Ritchy Mitch & The Coal Miners - Evergreen 556,634 (+19,356)
85(+1) A$AP Rocky - Sundress 547,609 (-5,883)
86(+9) Kendrick Lamar - HUMBLE. 547,599 (+22,129)
90(+3) d4vd - Feel It 543,403 (+7,494)
97(+1) Marshmello, Kane Brown - Miles On It 517,552 (-102)
98(-1) Jessie Murph, Jelly Roll - Wild Ones 516,415 (-3,928)
99(-3) Peso Pluma, Junior H, Eslabon Armado - LA DURANGO 513,786 (-7,623)
100(+6) Baby Keem, Kendrick Lamar - family ties 511,788 (+10,574)

103(-3) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 508,612 (-3,665)
110(+22) Natanael Cano, Oscar Maydon - Madonna 484,173 (+29,347)
117(-4) Dominic Fike - Babydoll 474,500 (-8,137)
120(+24) EBK Jaaybo - Boogieman 472,173 (+38,168)
124(-5) Megan Thee Stallion - BOA 465,075 (-12,095)
125(+23) Bakar, Summer Walker - Hell N Back Remix 464,137 (+35,835)
127(+6) Chappel Roan - HOT TO GO! 459,149 (+4,924)
128(+1) Yeat - If We Being Rëal 457,887 (-1,898)
129(+14) Luis R Conriquez, Neton Vega - Si No Quieres No 456,816 (+22,289)
130(-5) TV Girl - Not Allowed 456,341 (-6,904)
132(+8) Fuerza Regida - TÚ NAME 455,066 (+18,465)
136(+43) Dominic Fike - misses 449,241 (+52,875) (+13%) *NEW PEAK*
138(+3) A$AP Rocky, Imogen Heap, Clams Casino - I Smoked Away My Brain 443,845 (+7,646)
140(+10) Future, Metro Boomin, Travis Scott - Cinderella 439,752 (+14,932)
144(+11) Myke Towers, Bad Bunny - ADIVINO 435,444 (+13,191)
145(+33) Olivia Rodrigo - obsessed 435,239 (+35,753)
151(+3) Rvssian, Rauw Alejandro, Ayra Starr - Santa 429,343 (+6,869)
156(+10) Zach Bryan - Revival 425,305 (+19,793)
159(+25) Charli XCX - 360 424,433 (+35,813)
162(-9) The Red Clay Stray - Wondering Why 419,553 (-3,322)
165(+18) Gunna - on one tonight 415,273 (+24,734) *NEW PEAK*
166(-106) Childish Gambino - Atavista 414,919 (-252,048) (-38%)
171(-12) Good Neighbors - Home 404,947 (-13,331)
177(=) Bryan Martin - We Ride 400,980 (+488)
180(RE) Brent Faiyaz, FELIX!, Tommy Richman - Upset 400,254
183(+5) Xavi - Corazón de Piedra 398,733 (+11,837)
189(RE) Gracie Abrams - Risk 389,209

Total Streams for MILLION DOLLAR BABY: 6,197,470

Biggest Gains (50K+): misses, Stargazing, Wasted On You, Wanna Be, Yeah Glo!, Belong Together, we can't be friends (wait for your love), Beautiful Things, Espresso, I Had Some Help

[fridayteenage]

I was looking through wiki, and apparently since mid September which is when the grammy eligibility starts, only 2 songs have dropped which got 10 weeks in the top 10:
Lovin On Me
Beautiful Things.

What an unexciting crop thus far, but perhaps the current hits will have staying power.

[KeepDeanWeird]

May 15, 2024 18:19:36 GMT -5 sayhey said:

May 15, 2024 14:41:44 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

"Thriller" has entered the chat.

But yeah, bad timing for Sabrina.

Thriller's chart run always intrigued me. It was the 7th and final single off its eponymous album and made a strong #20 debut in February 1984, then shot to #5 and then peaked at #4 for two weeks. It experienced a fairly typical descent down the charts for early-mid 80s standards (#6 - #11 - #15 - #23 - #47 - #69 - #77 - #96 - #99), ranking at #78 on the YEC. The single was certified platinum in 1989 (when the platinum certification for singles was lowered to 1 million). 

To me, it always seemed the physical release of Thriller was suppressed to an extent in order to sell the album. The music video premiered on December 2, 1983 on MTV and caused a massive sensation, propelling the album back to number one on December 24, where it stayed for a further 17 weeks until April 14, 1984, making it 1984's biggest-seller in the process, for a second consecutive year. It seems obvious Epic preferred selling the album over the single, as evidenced by the massive rebound of the album as compared to the relatively modest performance of the single. Added to that, the Making Michael Jackson's Thriller VHS became the first home video to sell a million copies (reportedly eventually reaching 10 million, I would assume globally), which obviously didn't count towards its Billboard's placement and technically further hurt its chart performance.

It's also noteworthy that the Thriller single was sandwiched between two big singles featuring Michael, namely Say Say Say (#1 for 6 weeks) and Somebody's Watching Me (#2), which performed much better on the Hot 100, so this could have further contributed to its limited physical availability in an effort to avoid market oversaturation and/or overexposure. 

Thriller also topped the CHR chart on Radio & Records for the week of February 10, 1984 and remained in the top 3 for 5 weeks, making it a big airplay hit. So this would definitely imply a limited physical availability, as it topped the radio component of the chart.

In any case, the Thriller single was obviously a staggeringly massive cultural phenomenon, which catapulted the album to a second commercial peak after its initial early-mid 1983 peak with Billie Jean and Beat It. But that isn't reflected in its chart performance, as it essentially sold the album and VHS through its juggernaut music video and limited commercial release. Basically, even if it was never released physically and never charted on the Hot 100, the music video would've likely sold the album and VHS just the same. And, conversely, if the single was given a wider retail release, it would've likely been a big #1 on the Hot 100.

Anyway, sorry for rambling, just always found its chart-run interesting lol! 

The original 7" single of 'Thriller' only runs 3:56 as per the label. It is a remix with different instrumental break at the end that *omits* the Vincent Price monologue. Search YouTube for: 'Thriller [Single Version] - Michael Jackson' - it has a picture of the 45.

It's safe to assume, Epic only issued the 45 so that 'Thriller' could chart on the Hot 100.

Interestingly, the 'Single Version' found on Michael's 'Numbers Ones' and 'Essential MJ" is not the original vinyl single, but an edit of the album version that retains Vincent Price.

[thatpolishboy]

May 15, 2024 22:19:04 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

I was looking through wiki, and apparently since mid September which is when the grammy eligibility starts, only 2 songs have dropped which got 10 weeks in the top 10:
Lovin On Me
Beautiful Things.

What an unexciting crop thus far, but perhaps the current hits will have staying power.

You're making it sound like its a bad thing they we are getting a highly competitive turn over at the top of the charts?

[awkwardowl]

It seems that Fortnight weekly streams record is safe after Wednesday update. IHSH will be #3 this week and #4 in all-time peaks table. M$B and NLU is already in top 3 with six days of tracking but they both need a big (~910k/750k) Thursday gains to overtake Fortnight debut week. I think Tommy will get this week but there is very small margin between Kendrick and him.
In addition to this big 3 and big Taylor, three other songs in this week Spotify top 10 have top 15 all-time peaks and three remaing songs have (Hozier and Sabrina) or will have (Tipsy) top 50 all-time peaks.

[artifexlife]

May 15, 2024 18:30:43 GMT -5 neel said:

May 15, 2024 18:19:36 GMT -5 sayhey said:

Thriller's chart run always intrigued me. It was the 7th and final single off its eponymous album and made a strong #20 debut in February 1984, then shot to #5 and then peaked at #4 for two weeks. It experienced a fairly typical descent down the charts for early-mid 80s standards (#6 - #11 - #15 - #23 - #47 - #69 - #77 - #96 - #99), ranking at #78 on the YEC. The single was certified platinum in 1989 (when the platinum certification for singles was lowered to 1 million). 

To me, it always seemed the physical release of Thriller was suppressed to an extent in order to sell the album. The music video premiered on December 2, 1983 on MTV and caused a massive sensation, propelling the album back to number one on December 24, where it stayed for a further 17 weeks until April 14, 1984, making it 1984's biggest-seller in the process, for a second consecutive year. It seems obvious Epic preferred selling the album over the single, as evidenced by the massive rebound of the album as compared to the relatively modest performance of the single. Added to that, the Making Michael Jackson's Thriller VHS became the first home video to sell a million copies (reportedly eventually reaching 10 million, I would assume globally), which obviously didn't count towards its Billboard's placement and technically further hurt its chart performance.

It's also noteworthy that the Thriller single was sandwiched between two big singles featuring Michael, namely Say Say Say (#1 for 6 weeks) and Somebody's Watching Me (#2), which performed much better on the Hot 100, so this could have further contributed to its limited physical availability in an effort to avoid market oversaturation and/or overexposure. 

Thriller also topped the CHR chart on Radio & Records for the week of February 10, 1984 and remained in the top 3 for 5 weeks, making it a big airplay hit. So this would definitely imply a limited physical availability, as it topped the radio component of the chart.

In any case, the Thriller single was obviously a staggeringly massive cultural phenomenon, which catapulted the album to a second commercial peak after its initial early-mid 1983 peak with Billie Jean and Beat It. But that isn't reflected in its chart performance, as it essentially sold the album and VHS through its juggernaut music video and limited commercial release. Basically, even if it was never released physically and never charted on the Hot 100, the music video would've likely sold the album and VHS just the same. And, conversely, if the single was given a wider retail release, it would've likely been a big #1 on the Hot 100.

Anyway, sorry for rambling, just always found its chart-run interesting lol! 

That period (1984-1991) before SoundScan was used as the main methodology for Billboard was just so weird and very inaccurate. So many huge hits like "We Are the World," "Like a Prayer," "Bad," were doing insane numbers in their first few weeks did not accurately reflect on the Hot 100. Even weirder that none of the official numbers (sales & airplay) that they used to compose the Hot 100 are even public.

I think even nowadays the songs that are the biggest on the Billboard Hot 100 chart dont generally reflect what the actual audience is listening to and what they will remember in said year.

[mms82]

May 16, 2024 7:04:51 GMT -5 artifexlife said:

May 15, 2024 18:30:43 GMT -5 neel said:

That period (1984-1991) before SoundScan was used as the main methodology for Billboard was just so weird and very inaccurate. So many huge hits like "We Are the World," "Like a Prayer," "Bad," were doing insane numbers in their first few weeks did not accurately reflect on the Hot 100. Even weirder that none of the official numbers (sales & airplay) that they used to compose the Hot 100 are even public.

I think even nowadays the songs that are the biggest on the Billboard Hot 100 chart dont generally reflect what the actual audience is listening to and what they will remember in said year.

Big difference in what people are listening to and what they will remember. What people are listening to, the chart is incredibly accurate. What people will remember? The chart can’t predict the future and neither can anyone.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

May 9, 2024 23:02:56 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Mid-Week Releases

New Singles:
Cassandra Jenkins - Delphinium Blue
aespa - Supernova / Long Chat
Shygirl & Danny L Harle - encore
水曜日のカンパネラ [WEDNESDAY CAMPANELLA] - Archimedes
NxWorries feat. Snoop Dogg and October London - FromHere
ITZY - Algorhythm
Static Dress - crying
Fire-Toolz - RE: Official Request For Reciprocal Indwelling Procedure / The Envy Of The Heavenly Powers
Winter - shaniatwainlovestory
Lido Pimienta - He Venido al Mar
One Step Closer - Blur My Memory
Esperanza Spalding & Milton Nascimento - Outubro
Crossfaith feat. WARGASM - God Speed
Wunderhorse - July
Highly Suspect - Summertime Voodoo
Sammy Rae & The Friends feat. CELISSE - We Made It
Tindersticks - New World / Falling, The Light
Los Campesinos! - Feast Of Tongues
Delta Sleep - Sunchaser
Luna Li - Confusion Song
Lainey Wilson - Hang Tight Honey
Lip Critic - Death Lurking
Nada Surf - In Front of Me Now
Big Hit, Hit-Boy & The Alchemist - Black & Whites
Porches - Joker
ovine hall - do it for me
Swiss Portrait - Worries
Dumont - Let You Go
Crack Cloud - Blue Kite
Cardinals - Nineteen
Marigold - Blue Eclipse
Cold Below - FOUND OUT
Wilderado - Talker
CANDY - You Will Never Get Me
Estee Nack - RUDEBOY
Liana Flores - Nightvisions
Grady - Coattails
Cloud Cult - I Am A Force Field
The Dream Machine - Cindy’s Eyes
Fake Fruit - Mucho Mistrust
Peatle feat. Mandark - Painting (油漆)
Dr. Dog - Tell Your Friends
Yoon Chaewon - Americano on a Rainy Day
Daysormay - SIMMER
Moby feat. Benjamin Zephaniah - Where Is Your Pride?
ALICE - Milky Way
유다연 [YOU DAYEON] - keep it low
The Wind - Sirius Part. 2
KIM A REUM (김아름) - 춤 (Full moon)
British Murder Boys - It's What You Hide
††† - Powerhouse
Palaye Royale - Wednesday Afternoon
Charlotte Cardin - Lonely with Our Love
ELIO - my mother's jeans
Edward Skeletrix - Titanic
Maluma and Pirlo - MIONCA

New Albums and EPs:
Childish Gambino - Atavista
BADBADNOTGOOD - Mid Spiral: Chaos EP
From Indian Lakes - Head Void
Liturgy - Immortal Life II EP
Marina Satti - P.O.P EP
ENHYPEN - <MEMORABILIA> EP
Windows 96 - Yes Da Da Da
Ninajirachi - girl EDM EP
Perry Maysun - Avoid Second Death
Imase - 凡才
ZEROBASEONE - You had me at hello
SennaRin - ADRENA
TENDOUJI - TENDOUJI
Peanuts - Loopin the 3rd
TRSH - Straw Chairs EP
Le Makeup - 予感
The Telephones - Life Is a D.A.N.C.E.
Micah Schnabel - The Clown Watches The Clock
Evocable - Evocable/2
Shloob - With the times
Sewerperson - HOSTEL
Marucoporoporo - Conceive the Sea
Climbgrow - LOVE CROWN
Daichi Yamamoto - Radiant
Kasbo - I'm In Trouble EP
Tiago Iorc - Antes Que O Mundo Acabe
Sick Animation - Fee-Fi Rap Dog Nation
FJAAK - FJAAK The System
wolfacejoeyy - Valentino
JIGDRESS - MINORENTROPY
Lilithzplug - Once Upon A Time
Ameonna - Goddess Reign EP
Shokran - Duat
Nothing's Carved In Stone - BRIGHTNESS

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2024 » / « 05 » / « 16 »

1(=) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 83.70(+0.07)
2(=) Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 71.46(-0.19)
3(=) SZA - Saturn 63.45(+0.74)
4(=) Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love) 55.73(+0.80)
5(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 53.89(-0.40)
6(=) Jack Harlow - Lovin On Me 53.43(-0.08) +
7(=) Doja Cat - Agora Hills 50.08(-0.14)

8(+5) Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen) 49.11(+5.19)
9(-1) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 46.67(+0.21)
10(-1) Luke Combs - Fast Car 45.80(-0.01)

15(+1) Hozier - Too Sweet 42.85(+1.30)

72(+4) Thomas Rhett - Beautiful As You 13.86(+0.77)

77(+8) Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 12.64(+1.15)

85(+12) Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 10.98(+1.00)

-(-) Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY 7.39(+1.22)

[sedrickwilhelm]

This is stunning if true.

[neel]

May 16, 2024 7:04:51 GMT -5 artifexlife said:

May 15, 2024 18:30:43 GMT -5 neel said:

That period (1984-1991) before SoundScan was used as the main methodology for Billboard was just so weird and very inaccurate. So many huge hits like "We Are the World," "Like a Prayer," "Bad," were doing insane numbers in their first few weeks did not accurately reflect on the Hot 100. Even weirder that none of the official numbers (sales & airplay) that they used to compose the Hot 100 are even public.

I think even nowadays the songs that are the biggest on the Billboard Hot 100 chart dont generally reflect what the actual audience is listening to and what they will remember in said year.

Yeah but at least the data is pretty accurate now, unlike in 1988 when the biggest and most talked about song of the week took like five weeks to reach No. 1 just to show off that big first week. Then it immediately started dropping, even though there were no signs of momentum stopping on the streets. Billboard in the second half of the '80s to the first two years of the '90s was just so inaccurate when you look through the charts. Don’t even get me started on the year-end rankings from those years.

[sayhey]

May 15, 2024 22:36:01 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

May 15, 2024 18:19:36 GMT -5 sayhey said:

Thriller's chart run always intrigued me. It was the 7th and final single off its eponymous album and made a strong #20 debut in February 1984, then shot to #5 and then peaked at #4 for two weeks. It experienced a fairly typical descent down the charts for early-mid 80s standards (#6 - #11 - #15 - #23 - #47 - #69 - #77 - #96 - #99), ranking at #78 on the YEC. The single was certified platinum in 1989 (when the platinum certification for singles was lowered to 1 million). 

To me, it always seemed the physical release of Thriller was suppressed to an extent in order to sell the album. The music video premiered on December 2, 1983 on MTV and caused a massive sensation, propelling the album back to number one on December 24, where it stayed for a further 17 weeks until April 14, 1984, making it 1984's biggest-seller in the process, for a second consecutive year. It seems obvious Epic preferred selling the album over the single, as evidenced by the massive rebound of the album as compared to the relatively modest performance of the single. Added to that, the Making Michael Jackson's Thriller VHS became the first home video to sell a million copies (reportedly eventually reaching 10 million, I would assume globally), which obviously didn't count towards its Billboard's placement and technically further hurt its chart performance.

It's also noteworthy that the Thriller single was sandwiched between two big singles featuring Michael, namely Say Say Say (#1 for 6 weeks) and Somebody's Watching Me (#2), which performed much better on the Hot 100, so this could have further contributed to its limited physical availability in an effort to avoid market oversaturation and/or overexposure. 

Thriller also topped the CHR chart on Radio & Records for the week of February 10, 1984 and remained in the top 3 for 5 weeks, making it a big airplay hit. So this would definitely imply a limited physical availability, as it topped the radio component of the chart.

In any case, the Thriller single was obviously a staggeringly massive cultural phenomenon, which catapulted the album to a second commercial peak after its initial early-mid 1983 peak with Billie Jean and Beat It. But that isn't reflected in its chart performance, as it essentially sold the album and VHS through its juggernaut music video and limited commercial release. Basically, even if it was never released physically and never charted on the Hot 100, the music video would've likely sold the album and VHS just the same. And, conversely, if the single was given a wider retail release, it would've likely been a big #1 on the Hot 100.

Anyway, sorry for rambling, just always found its chart-run interesting lol! 

The original 7" single of 'Thriller' only runs 3:56 as per the label. It is a remix with different instrumental break at the end that *omits* the Vincent Price monologue. Search YouTube for: 'Thriller [Single Version] - Michael Jackson' - it has a picture of the 45.

It's safe to assume, Epic only issued the 45 so that 'Thriller' could chart on the Hot 100.

Interestingly, the 'Single Version' found on Michael's 'Numbers Ones' and 'Essential MJ" is not the original vinyl single, but an edit of the album version that retains Vincent Price.

That's true, forgot the 7'' featured a shortened version! Only the 12'' vinyl, which was obviously available in much smaller quantities, featured the full album version with the monologue. This definitely further hurt the single's sales and Hot 100 performance. And agreed, I'd say the Thriller single was issued as a 45 solely to get a 7th song off the album into the top 10, which extended his record of most top 10s off an LP. Once that was achieved, its physical configurations were probably suppressed to facilitate the ongoing gargantuan boost the album was experiencing by minimizing any album sales being cannibalized by the single. And it worked wonders, it really served as the perfect era closer.

[hughster1]

When looking back on pre-Soundscan charts it's useful to remember that not only was the data less accurate but it wasn't reported the same way. My understanding is that, unlike now where there's reports of the actual number of streams, plays, and sales, there wasn't even an estimate of those things. Instead, I believe they complied the data from getting playlists from radio stations and sales rankings from record stores. Not only were those subject to fudging (many stations would drop a song off the chart entirely after it hit number one on their playlist, despite the fact that they were still playing it), but the charts were compiled not by using actual units but by converting chart rankings on those airplay and sales charts. I think they may have weighted stations in different markets as well - e.g. a station in New York City would have more impact than one in a less populated area. And of course only play on certain formats - generally top 40 stations - counted towards the Hot 100. Plus video play, even on MTV, didn't count at all (although it obviously influenced sales and radio airplay). So while there are issues now with things like how various components are weighed, there was a lot more room for estimating and fudging chart positions back then. The Hot 100 was sometimes as much of a "vibe" as anything. Sometimes the most popular songs in the country were so obvious that they were undeniable - the mid-80s MJ/Prince/Madonna/British invasion era was definitely one such time - at other times, like the late 80's/early 90's, the charts were a lot more random and divorced from what people were actually listening to. (Also in the late 80's/early 90s the top 40 format was losing popularity compared to other formats, which also didn't help).

Of course "Thriller" was in that mid 80's run so that doesn't really explain it. I think its short run can be chalked up to (1) delayed release of the single, (2) lower sales of the single since millions and millions of people already had the album, (3) Michael's overexposure (he was EVERYWHERE and it was the seventh single from the album),(4) as others noted the other hits he had out at the same time (when stations usually would only play one or two current songs by an artist at a time), and (5) the fact that it was the video, rather than the song, that was the sensation (ask any Gen X'er if they ever tried to do the "Thriller" dance!).Just my opinion but take it from someone who was there!

[stormlover74]

May 16, 2024 20:18:13 GMT -5 hughster1 said:

When looking back on pre-Soundscan charts it's useful to remember that not only was the data less accurate but it wasn't reported the same way. My understanding is that, unlike now where there's reports of the actual number of streams, plays, and sales, there wasn't even an estimate of those things. Instead, I believe they complied the data from getting playlists from radio stations and sales rankings from record stores. Not only were those subject to fudging (many stations would drop a song off the chart entirely after it hit number one on their playlist, despite the fact that they were still playing it), but the charts were compiled not by using actual units but by converting chart rankings on those airplay and sales charts. I think they may have weighted stations in different markets as well - e.g. a station in New York City would have more impact than one in a less populated area. And of course only play on certain formats - generally top 40 stations - counted towards the Hot 100. Plus video play, even on MTV, didn't count at all (although it obviously influenced sales and radio airplay). So while there are issues now with things like how various components are weighed, there was a lot more room for estimating and fudging chart positions back then. The Hot 100 was sometimes as much of a "vibe" as anything. Sometimes the most popular songs in the country were so obvious that they were undeniable - the mid-80s MJ/Prince/Madonna/British invasion era was definitely one such time - at other times, like the late 80's/early 90's, the charts were a lot more random and divorced from what people were actually listening to. (Also in the late 80's/early 90s the top 40 format was losing popularity compared to other formats, which also didn't help).

Of course "Thriller" was in that mid 80's run so that doesn't really explain it. I think its short run can be chalked up to (1) delayed release of the single, (2) lower sales of the single since millions and millions of people already had the album, (3) Michael's overexposure (he was EVERYWHERE and it was the seventh single from the album),(4) as others noted the other hits he had out at the same time (when stations usually would only play one or two current songs by an artist at a time), and (5) the fact that it was the video, rather than the song, that was the sensation (ask any Gen X'er if they ever tried to do the "Thriller" dance!).Just my opinion but take it from someone who was there!

Whats odd though is thriller did hit #7 in just its 2nd week on the entire chart. By far the fastest climbing of the 7 singles. Perhaps it is due to the fact it already had amassed a good deal of airplay when the single was finally released. And then of course it stalled out just a couple weeks later. And yes as a gen xer the video, the dance, the whole thing was definitely a defining moment

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 05/15/24

1(=) Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY 5,590,647 (+109,868)
2(=) Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 5,102,912 (-187,046)
3(=) Post Malone, Morgan Wallen - I Had Some Help 4,506,203 (-206,660)
4(=) Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 2,714,960 (-81,607)
5(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 2,518,422 (-75,256)
6(=) Kendrick Lamar - euphoria 2,113,959 (-26,768)
7(+1) Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick Lamar - Like That 1,992,211 (+29,904)
8(-1) Taylor Swift, Post Malone - Fortnight 1,921,334 (-58,532)
9(=) Hozier - Too Sweet 1,795,908 (+17,920)
10(=) Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With A Broken Heart 1,617,484 (-76,830)

Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department [16/16]
12(=) Down Bad 1,288,074 (-45,879)
16(-1) Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? 1,095,095 (-45,310)
21(+1) So Long, London 999,146 (-19,071)
24(+1) Guilty as Sin? 983,478 (-5,376)
26(-3) But Daddy I Love Him 969,035 (-34,335)
30(-1) My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 906,815 (-25,808)
33(-2) The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 879,985 (-16,969)
34(=) Florida!!!! 846,111 (-31,237)
37(-1) The Tortured Poets Department 810,491 (-27,708)
54(+1) The Alchemy 687,162 (-28,899)
55(+2) loml 683,630 (-17,905)
63(-1) Fresh Out the Slammer 639,624 (-23,125)
86(-5) I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 548,930 (-21,435)
99(-8) Clara Bow 518,827 (-21,730)
Total Twenty-seventh Day Streams: 15,395,221 (-3.15%)

Taylor Swift - THE ANTHOLOGY [12/15]
52(-2) So High School 706,827 (-37,689)
65(-4) imgonnagetyouback 638,410 (-29,583)
79(-3) The Black Dog 578,083 (-17,555)
93(-4) The Prophecy 532,989 (-10,715)
108(-6) How Did It End? 495,373 (-13,488)
137(-14) I Hate It Here 453,641 (-13,697)
145(-14) The Albatross 438,162 (-18,053)
164(-16) Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus 414,996 (-16,186)
165(-19) The Bolter 414,724 (-18,512)
167(-17) thanK you aIMee 408,580 (-21,202)
181(-14) Peter 398,739 (-12,960)
192(-17) I Look in People's Windows 388,657 (-13,728)
Total Twenty-seventh Day Streams: 5,869,181 (-3.67%)

Overall Twenty-seventh Day Streams: 21,264,402 (-3.29%)

Other:
11(=) Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 1,391,188 (-33,481)
13(=) Artemas - i like the way you kiss me 1,259,384 (-51,371)
14(=) Chapell Roan - Good Luck, Babe! 1,214,265 (+27,386)
17(=) Kendrick Lamar - meet the grahams 1,076,156 (-21,267)
18(=) SZA - Saturn 1,039,003 (-18,624)
19(+1) Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love) 1,030,587 (+2,165)
20(-1) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 1,013,346 (-37,591)
22(-1) Drake - Family Matters 998,868 (-27,795)
23(+1) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 983,977 (-11,569)
25(+1) Future, Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, Playboi Carti - Type Shit 969,482 (-5,825)
27(+1) FloyyMenor, Cris Mj - Gata Only 943,245 (-5,863)
28(+4) Benson Boone - Slow It Down 940,307 (+45,588)
29(-2) Djo - End of Beginning 936,100 (-23,322)
31(-1) Dasha - Austin 901,429 (-29,947)
39(+3) Travis Scott, Playboi Carti - FE!N 800,498 (+14,955)
40(+5) Drake - Push Ups 797,439 (+23,537)
41(+2) Bryson Tiller - Whatever She Wants 792,458 (+7,243)
42(-5) Sexyy Red - Get It Sexy 791,223 (-29,992)
44(+8) Gunna - one of wun 773,156-734,562 (+38,594) *NEW PEAK*
45(-1) Morgan Wallen, ERNEST - Cowgirls 760,478 (-13,453)
46(=) Michael Marcagi - Scared to Start 755,825 (-16,319)
47(+1) 21 Savage - redrum 751,573 (-8,920)
48(+1) Mark Ambor - Belong Together 738,088 (-8,411) *NEW PEAK*
53(+3) Lay Bankz - Tell Ur Girlfriend 704,566 (-2,473)
56(-5) GloRilla - Yeah Glo! 676,552 (-61,160)
57(-3) Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY (VHS) 667,677 (-49,014)
58(=) Don Toliver - Bandit 666,149 (-27,322)
60(+7) BigXthaPlug - Mmhmm 665,129 (+35,291)
64(+9) Zach Bryan - Heading South 638,440 (+33,962)
66(+3) Myles Smith - Stargazing 638,151 (+17,596) *NEW PEAK*
67(-8) GloRilla, Megan Thee Stallion - Wanna Be 634,470 (-53,962)
68(=) Rich Amiri - ONE CALL 625,115 (-2,931)
69(-4) Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 622,152 (-9,547)
74(+8) Tucker Wetmore - Wind Up Missin' You 595,927 (+26,422)
75(+8) Chappell Roan - Red Wine Supernova 593,299 (+32,731)
77(-2) Flo Milli - Never Lose Me 593,023 (-3,331)
78(+1) Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock - Money Trees 589,536 (+4,447)
80(+5) A$AP Rocky - Sundress 576,019 (+28,410)
81(-15) BigXthaPlug - Back On My BS 571,211 (-59,113)
82(-2) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 569,067 (-5,964)
83(+3) Kendrick Lamar - HUMBLE. 567,603 (+20,004)
85(-1) Ritchy Mitch & The Coal Miners - Evergreen 558,158 (+1,524)
88(+2) d4vd - Feel It 545,322 (+1,919)
96(+2) Jessie Murph, Jelly Roll - Wild Ones 528,656 (+12,241)
97(+20) Dominic Fike - Babydoll 520,308 (+45,808) (+10%)
98(+2) Baby Keem, Kendrick Lamar - family ties 519,614 (+7,826)
100(+24) Megan Thee Stallion - BOA 517,698 (+52,623) (+11%)

103(=) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 513,790 (+5,178)
105(-6) Peso Pluma, Junior H, Eslabon Armado - LA DURANGO 510,223 (-3,563)
113(-16) Marshmello, Kane Brown - Miles On It 488,577 (-28,975)
115(+5) EBK Jaaybo - Boogieman 485,058 (+12,885)
124(-14) Natanael Cano, Oscar Maydon - Madonna 466,927 (-17,246)
127(=) Chappel Roan - HOT TO GO! 465,174 (+6,025)
128(+1) Luis R Conriquez, Neton Vega - Si No Quieres No 464,642 (+7,826)
129(+3) Fuerza Regida - TÚ NAME 464,470 (+9,404)
130(-2) Yeat - If We Being Rëal 464,051 (+6,164)
131(+31) The Red Clay Stray - Wondering Why 462,357 (+42,804) (+10%)
134(-9) Bakar, Summer Walker - Hell N Back Remix 455,971 (-8,166)
140(-2) A$AP Rocky, Imogen Heap, Clams Casino - I Smoked Away My Brain 451,374 (+7,529)
141(-11) TV Girl - Not Allowed 447,133 (-9,208)
142(+23) Gunna - on one tonight 438,162 (+22,889)
149(-9) Future, Metro Boomin, Travis Scott - Cinderella 428,848 (-10,904)
150(+1) Rvssian, Rauw Alejandro, Ayra Starr - Santa 427,314 (-2,029)
153(+18) Good Neighbors - Home 424,662 (+19,715)
159(-15) Myke Towers, Bad Bunny - ADIVINO 420,650 (-14,794)
163(-4) Charli XCX - 360 416,173 (-8,260)
166(-10) Zach Bryan - Revival 414,710 (-10,595)
168(-23) Olivia Rodrigo - obsessed 407,998 (-27,241)
171(+6) Bryan Martin - We Ride 405,506 (+4,526)
185(-5) Brent Faiyaz, FELIX!, Tommy Richman - Upset 394,979 (-5,275)
186(-3) Xavi - Corazón de Piedra 393,169 (-5,564)

Total Streams for MILLION DOLLAR BABY: 6,258,324

Biggest Gains (50K+): Heartless (Morgan Wallen), BOA, Oklahoma Smokeshow, MILLION DOLLAR BABY

[awkwardowl]

May 16, 2024 11:21:56 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

8(+5) Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen) 49.11(+5.19)

country radio 💀

[artistry]

This should be the week that Good Luck, Babe! enters the top 40.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

MILLION DOLLAR BABY and Not Like Us were so close to breaking Fortnight's record for biggest US weekly streams for a song (39,002,123)

[fridayteenage]

it's crazy cuz it was just a few weeks ago that 3 different artists had a 16.8 million (168 hours *100k avg) week for the first time.
then 3 different artists had a 20 million week for the first time.
now 3 different artists had a 35 million week for the first time. when before fortnight, 32 million hadn't been hit yet!

[imbondz]

If video views counted, and the Thriller single was not suppressed, it would have been #1 for almost a year. There’s no telling how many weeks it would have been. That video was gigantic.

[imbondz]

I like Million Dollar Baby ok, but where did he come from and how is it so big so quick? TikTok?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

If I'm not mistaken, the eighth day cumulative weekly audience loss of I Had Some Help is probably the highest since Lift Me Up:

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2024 » / « 05 » / « 17 »

1(=) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 83.65(-0.05)
2(=) Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 71.33(-0.12)
3(=) SZA - Saturn 63.84(+0.39)
4(=) Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love) 56.56(+0.83)
5(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 53.54(-0.34)
6(=) Jack Harlow - Lovin On Me 53.20(-0.22)
7(=) Doja Cat - Agora Hills 50.00(-0.08)
8(+1) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 46.62(-0.04)
9(+1) Luke Combs - Fast Car 44.78(-1.03)
10(+5) Hozier - Too Sweet 44.48(+1.64)

23(-15) Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen) 36.16(-12.95)
31(+3) Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 25.56(+0.70) +
46(+2) Cardi B - Enough (Miami) 21.93(+0.73)
70(+2) Thomas Rhett - Beautiful As You 14.69(+0.83)
75(+2) Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 13.47(+0.83)
83(+2) Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 11.71(+0.73)
-(-) Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY 8.61(+1.23)

[badrobot]

I know radio is slow, but I am surprised at just how slow they're being with Espresso. It would be nice if radio picked up and streams stayed strong long enough that it might sneak in a week at #1 this summer.

[stormlover74]

May 17, 2024 11:09:57 GMT -5 badrobot said:

I know radio is slow, but I am surprised at just how slow they're being with Espresso. It would be nice if radio picked up and streams stayed strong long enough that it might sneak in a week at #1 this summer.

It will be inside the top 10 at pop by next week at this time. It's other formats that are slow. Outside of hot ac I'm not sure where else this song would really fit