The Weeknd & Anitta - "São Paulo"

[kcdawg13]

Nov 20, 2024 3:27:23 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Last real hit was Save Your Tears. Yikes

What qualifies as a real hit to you? Take My Breath reached #8 on pop and #6 on the Hot 100, also spent 20 weeks there. And what about Die For You and Creepin? Also both Popular and One Of The Girls did really great internationally and have over a billion streams on Spotify (Popular is close). Timeless is sitting at #14 on the Hot 100 right now in its 7th week, reached #3 and it’s sitting in the Top 10 on both Apple Music and Spotify. Also, what about his collabs You Right and One Right Now? Moth To A Flame was also a big international hit. He’s had plenty of hits since Save Your Tears.

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[die Lotterie]

The energy in this one is absolutely undeniable, and it has been giving me life lately. It would be cool if this smashed; it sounds fresh in the context of the current musical landscape.

[krissirge]

Is this the first phonk song that has reached the US Hot 100? Kordhell collab when?

[Mayman]

Nov 20, 2024 1:52:09 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Is this actually being pushed as the third radio single or did the label just throw the song out there for adds and random stations decided to pick it up?

This is just radio playing it on its own, no adds date or any push whatsoever from the label. It also helps that normally this low of a spin count wouldn't allow it to enter the top 50, the threshold is just really low right now.

Nov 20, 2024 8:52:51 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Nov 20, 2024 3:27:23 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Last real hit was Save Your Tears. Yikes

What qualifies as a real hit to you? Take My Breath reached #8 on pop and #6 on the Hot 100, also spent 20 weeks there. And what about Die For You and Creepin? Also both Popular and One Of The Girls did really great internationally and have over a billion streams on Spotify (Popular is close). Timeless is sitting at #14 on the Hot 100 right now in its 7th week, reached #3 and it’s sitting in the Top 10 on both Apple Music and Spotify. Also, what about his collabs You Right and One Right Now? Moth To A Flame was also a big international hit. He’s had plenty of hits since Save Your Tears.

That user only comes into threads to spew shit to get a reaction and be miserable. Like legitmately just makes stuff up. Not one person who follows the charts actually believes The Weeknd, someone with several top 10 hits since Save Your Tears, has had no hits since then. Not even the OP believes that statement.

[mccloud]

Nov 20, 2024 8:52:51 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Nov 20, 2024 3:27:23 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Last real hit was Save Your Tears. Yikes

What qualifies as a real hit to you? Take My Breath reached #8 on pop and #6 on the Hot 100, also spent 20 weeks there. And what about Die For You and Creepin? Also both Popular and One Of The Girls did really great internationally and have over a billion streams on Spotify (Popular is close). Timeless is sitting at #14 on the Hot 100 right now in its 7th week, reached #3 and it’s sitting in the Top 10 on both Apple Music and Spotify. Also, what about his collabs You Right and One Right Now? Moth To A Flame was also a big international hit. He’s had plenty of hits since Save Your Tears.

His last huge hit that everyone knows...the second it comes on, is Save Your Tears. Take My breath was frontloaded/spent 1 week in the top 10. Die For You was a 6 year old song when it blew up. Popular and One Of The Girls are very modest hits in the US (the largest, most important market). Creepin is Metro Boomin's song. One Right Now is a Post Malone song, carried by radio, that wasn't in the top 50 of streaming past the first like 3 weeks. Moth to a Flame wasn't a hit at all in the US. Timeless could end up huge, it's doing pretty well. However, nothing really other than that song has been close to the level of success that the singles from his first 3 studio albums.

[mccloud]

Nov 21, 2024 2:15:40 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Nov 20, 2024 1:52:09 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Is this actually being pushed as the third radio single or did the label just throw the song out there for adds and random stations decided to pick it up?

This is just radio playing it on its own, no adds date or any push whatsoever from the label. It also helps that normally this low of a spin count wouldn't allow it to enter the top 50, the threshold is just really low right now.

Nov 20, 2024 8:52:51 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

What qualifies as a real hit to you? Take My Breath reached #8 on pop and #6 on the Hot 100, also spent 20 weeks there. And what about Die For You and Creepin? Also both Popular and One Of The Girls did really great internationally and have over a billion streams on Spotify (Popular is close). Timeless is sitting at #14 on the Hot 100 right now in its 7th week, reached #3 and it’s sitting in the Top 10 on both Apple Music and Spotify. Also, what about his collabs You Right and One Right Now? Moth To A Flame was also a big international hit. He’s had plenty of hits since Save Your Tears.

That user only comes into threads to spew shit to get a reaction and be miserable. Like legitmately just makes stuff up. Not one person who follows the charts actually believes The Weeknd, someone with several top 10 hits since Save Your Tears, has had no hits since then. Not even the OP believes that statement.

K buddy. Pick a song by The Weeknd prior to Timeless that wasn't frontloaded/spends 1 week in the top 10 on the Hot 100. Not a feature. I'll wait. All you guys do is talk about radio when it comes to the definition of hits when no one listens to it under the age of 40. Streaming is what determines it. All radio does is manipulate the Hot 100. Hell, even Timeless only debuted as high as it did because of a Playboi Carti feature. I love The Weeknd, but he is past his prime commercially. Dude got outsold by Gunna 2 years ago because he couldn't sell 150k.

[shakemaki]

The Weeknd just needs to make hit-ready songs like Starboy and After Hours were packed with again and he’ll smash again. There’s a reason those two albums in particular have fueled him to be the most streamed artist even this year. It’s a matter of the material not being as mainstream/memorable, not him being past the point where he can get big hits.

[Mayman]

Nov 21, 2024 14:23:32 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Nov 21, 2024 2:15:40 GMT -5 Mayman said:

This is just radio playing it on its own, no adds date or any push whatsoever from the label. It also helps that normally this low of a spin count wouldn't allow it to enter the top 50, the threshold is just really low right now.

That user only comes into threads to spew shit to get a reaction and be miserable. Like legitmately just makes stuff up. Not one person who follows the charts actually believes The Weeknd, someone with several top 10 hits since Save Your Tears, has had no hits since then. Not even the OP believes that statement.

K buddy. Pick a song by The Weeknd prior to Timeless that wasn't frontloaded/spends 1 week in the top 10 on the Hot 100. Not a feature. I'll wait. All you guys do is talk about radio when it comes to the definition of hits when no one listens to it under the age of 40. Streaming is what determines it. All radio does is manipulate the Hot 100. Hell, even Timeless only debuted as high as it did because of a Playboi Carti feature. I love The Weeknd, but he is past his prime commercially. Dude got outsold by Gunna 2 years ago because he couldn't sell 150k.

Not sure why features and non top 10 hits don't count. By that definition Post Malone hasn't had a hit since 2019. We both know that's not true. Creepin, Popular, Die For You, One of the Girls are all international hits. And I know they are because "streaming is what determines" a hit, and since they all have over a billion streams they count. I'd also say Take My Breath was a hit. Just because it didn't hit monster levels doesn't mean it's not a hit. Timeless is also stable on the Hot 100 with only moderate levels of airplay. Thank you streaming!

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[mccloud]

Nov 21, 2024 17:03:49 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Nov 21, 2024 14:23:32 GMT -5 mccloud said:

K buddy. Pick a song by The Weeknd prior to Timeless that wasn't frontloaded/spends 1 week in the top 10 on the Hot 100. Not a feature. I'll wait. All you guys do is talk about radio when it comes to the definition of hits when no one listens to it under the age of 40. Streaming is what determines it. All radio does is manipulate the Hot 100. Hell, even Timeless only debuted as high as it did because of a Playboi Carti feature. I love The Weeknd, but he is past his prime commercially. Dude got outsold by Gunna 2 years ago because he couldn't sell 150k.

Not sure why features and non top 10 hits don't count. By that definition Post Malone hasn't had a hit since 2019. We both know that's not true. Creepin, Popular, Die For You, One of the Girls are all international hits. And I know they are because "streaming is what determines" a hit, and since they all have over a billion streams they count. I'd also say Take My Breath was a hit. Just because it didn't hit monster levels doesn't mean it's not a hit. Timeless is also stable on the Hot 100 with only moderate levels of airplay. Thank you streaming!

No one cares about how songs are doing internationally. Those all hit like 55 on the Hot 100 (except Timeless, as i stated already). Hundreds of thousands of his fans are buying it from the US, not Argentina or France where the album sells 12,000 copies first week. Clearly i'm talking about domestically

[Mayman]

Nov 22, 2024 17:11:18 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Nov 21, 2024 17:03:49 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Not sure why features and non top 10 hits don't count. By that definition Post Malone hasn't had a hit since 2019. We both know that's not true. Creepin, Popular, Die For You, One of the Girls are all international hits. And I know they are because "streaming is what determines" a hit, and since they all have over a billion streams they count. I'd also say Take My Breath was a hit. Just because it didn't hit monster levels doesn't mean it's not a hit. Timeless is also stable on the Hot 100 with only moderate levels of airplay. Thank you streaming!

No one cares about how songs are doing internationally. Those all hit like 55 on the Hot 100 (except Timeless, as i stated already). Hundreds of thousands of his fans are buying it from the US, not Argentina or France where the album sells 12,000 copies first week. Clearly i'm talking about domestically

Well I guess we're talking about something different because all of these qualifiers for a hit to fit your view to cause trouble in this thread don't make any sense. Thankfully we can agree, even if you continue to lie, that The Weeknd indeed has had hits since Save Your Tears. Not one person on this forum would say differently.

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Nov 22, 2024 17:11:18 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Nov 21, 2024 17:03:49 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Not sure why features and non top 10 hits don't count. By that definition Post Malone hasn't had a hit since 2019. We both know that's not true. Creepin, Popular, Die For You, One of the Girls are all international hits. And I know they are because "streaming is what determines" a hit, and since they all have over a billion streams they count. I'd also say Take My Breath was a hit. Just because it didn't hit monster levels doesn't mean it's not a hit. Timeless is also stable on the Hot 100 with only moderate levels of airplay. Thank you streaming!

No one cares about how songs are doing internationally. Those all hit like 55 on the Hot 100 (except Timeless, as i stated already). Hundreds of thousands of his fans are buying it from the US, not Argentina or France where the album sells 12,000 copies first week. Clearly i'm talking about domestically

by that definition, Billie's lovely isn't a hit song, because it peaked at #64 on the Hot 100, but it's only a Diamond certified song in the US and soon the most streamed female song on Spotify. And who cares if it's a collab or a song from 2016, he's the lead vocalist on Creepin (that's like saying This Is What You Came for doesn't count for Rihanna, because it's not "her" song) and most people heard DFY in 2022-23, and if Timeless debuted in the top 3 because of Carti, why doesn't he have a solo top 10 song then?
It's not easy to have a hit like SYT, even the biggest artist of the decade so far - Taylor, scored "only" two giant hits (AH and CS).

[haven]

Nov 21, 2024 2:01:31 GMT -5 krissirge said:

Is this the first phonk song that has reached the US Hot 100? Kordhell collab when?

this is baile funk, or funk carioca (but i hear it refered to as baile most often). baile funk is deeply rooted in brazillian culture, and anitta is brazillian. pls do not confuse

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[mccloud]

Nov 22, 2024 19:43:59 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Nov 22, 2024 17:11:18 GMT -5 mccloud said:

No one cares about how songs are doing internationally. Those all hit like 55 on the Hot 100 (except Timeless, as i stated already). Hundreds of thousands of his fans are buying it from the US, not Argentina or France where the album sells 12,000 copies first week. Clearly i'm talking about domestically

by that definition, Billie's lovely isn't a hit song, because it peaked at #64 on the Hot 100, but it's only a Diamond certified song in the US and soon the most streamed female song on Spotify. And who cares if it's a collab or a song from 2016, he's the lead vocalist on Creepin (that's like saying This Is What You Came for doesn't count for Rihanna, because it's not "her" song) and most people heard DFY in 2022-23, and if Timeless debuted in the top 3 because of Carti, why doesn't he have a solo top 10 song then?
It's not easy to have a hit like SYT, even the biggest artist of the decade so far - Taylor, scored "only" two giant hits (AH and CS).

You're straight up delusional if you think Carti isn't the reason for its debut. Literally 2 weeks prior, with the hype of being his first lead single over 2 years, Dancing In the Flames didn't even make the top 10. 

[Mayman]

Nov 26, 2024 10:33:53 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Nov 22, 2024 19:43:59 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

by that definition, Billie's lovely isn't a hit song, because it peaked at #64 on the Hot 100, but it's only a Diamond certified song in the US and soon the most streamed female song on Spotify. And who cares if it's a collab or a song from 2016, he's the lead vocalist on Creepin (that's like saying This Is What You Came for doesn't count for Rihanna, because it's not "her" song) and most people heard DFY in 2022-23, and if Timeless debuted in the top 3 because of Carti, why doesn't he have a solo top 10 song then?
It's not easy to have a hit like SYT, even the biggest artist of the decade so far - Taylor, scored "only" two giant hits (AH and CS).

You're straight up delusional if you think Carti isn't the reason for its debut. Literally 2 weeks prior, with the hype of being his first lead single over 2 years, Dancing In the Flames didn't even make the top 10. 

Playboi Carti's latest solo single on the Hot 100: OUT. I'd say it was a combination of both, rather than just the impact of one or the other. People care more about a good song than a name!

[mccloud]

Cherrypicking the one song that didn't make top 40 the past like 5 years but went diamond anyways (Lovely) isn't making the argument you think it is regardless. The Weeknd has had "hits" that have done well but nothing that stuck in the top 10 for months like with After Hours. 2 of the 3 new singles are underperforming badly on streaming and his entire last album did had arguably one modest hit out of 4 released

[Mayman]

Nov 26, 2024 10:56:54 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Cherrypicking the one song that didn't make top 40 the past like 5 years but went diamond anyways (Lovely) isn't making the argument you think it is regardless. The Weeknd has had "hits" that have done well but nothing that stuck in the top 10 for months like with After Hours. 2 of the 3 new singles are underperforming badly on streaming and his entire last album did had arguably one modest hit out of 4 released

Did Creepin and Die For You not stay in the top 10 for months? 

[mccloud]

Nov 26, 2024 10:56:35 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Nov 26, 2024 10:33:53 GMT -5 mccloud said:

You're straight up delusional if you think Carti isn't the reason for its debut. Literally 2 weeks prior, with the hype of being his first lead single over 2 years, Dancing In the Flames didn't even make the top 10. 

Playboi Carti's latest solo single on the Hot 100: OUT. I'd say it was a combination of both, rather than just the impact of one or the other. People care more about a good song than a name!

All Red is "out" of the Hot 100 (it's debut is almost the same as Dancing In The Flames lol) because it isn't getting spammed by Pop radio despite a bad performance. 

[mccloud]

Nov 26, 2024 10:59:41 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Nov 26, 2024 10:56:54 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Cherrypicking the one song that didn't make top 40 the past like 5 years but went diamond anyways (Lovely) isn't making the argument you think it is regardless. The Weeknd has had "hits" that have done well but nothing that stuck in the top 10 for months like with After Hours. 2 of the 3 new singles are underperforming badly on streaming and his entire last album did had arguably one modest hit out of 4 released

Did Creepin and Die For You not stay in the top 10 for months? 

Creepin is the only thing i would consider even remotely close to his successes prior to Dawn FM. Die For You was 6 years old, not some new single he dropped that he wrote recently

[Mayman]

Nov 26, 2024 11:00:59 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Nov 26, 2024 10:56:35 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Playboi Carti's latest solo single on the Hot 100: OUT. I'd say it was a combination of both, rather than just the impact of one or the other. People care more about a good song than a name!

All Red is "out" of the Hot 100 (it's debut is almost the same as Dancing In The Flames lol) because it isn't getting spammed by Pop radio despite a bad performance. 

Interesting how DITF is outstreaming it on Spotify though.

[Mayman]

Nov 26, 2024 11:04:47 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Nov 26, 2024 10:59:41 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Did Creepin and Die For You not stay in the top 10 for months? 

Creepin is the only thing i would consider even remotely close to his successes prior to Dawn FM. Die For You was 6 years old, not some new single he dropped that he wrote recently

Die For You became popular in 2022 and hit #1 in 2023. It's a hit. Like girl you look like a fool with your attempt at trolling and lying. 

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[mccloud]

Nov 26, 2024 11:06:20 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Nov 26, 2024 11:00:59 GMT -5 mccloud said:

All Red is "out" of the Hot 100 (it's debut is almost the same as Dancing In The Flames lol) because it isn't getting spammed by Pop radio despite a bad performance. 

Interesting how DITF is outstreaming it on Spotify though.

Yeah, internationally it is. Because they are still eating up generic 80's synth pop 

[mccloud]

Nov 26, 2024 11:07:03 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Nov 26, 2024 11:04:47 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Creepin is the only thing i would consider even remotely close to his successes prior to Dawn FM. Die For You was 6 years old, not some new single he dropped that he wrote recently

Die For You became popular in 2022 and hit #1 in 2023. It's a hit. Like girl you look like a fool with your attempt at trolling and lying. 

Die For You is a song from his prime from years ago. Not a recent single off a newer studio album. Really not sure how you're not grasping this

Also don't call me "girl". I'm not female or gay 

[Mayman]

Nov 26, 2024 11:12:15 GMT -5 mccloud said:

Nov 26, 2024 11:07:03 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Die For You became popular in 2022 and hit #1 in 2023. It's a hit. Like girl you look like a fool with your attempt at trolling and lying. 

Die For You is a song from his prime from years ago. Not a recent single off a newer studio album. Really not sure how you're not grasping this

Also don't call me "girl". I'm not female or gay 

Offended over being called "girl" in a general context, wow that's sad. Is "Running Up That Hill" not a 2022 hit despite being released in the 80s? I don't think so. "Die For You" was a #1 hit on the Hot 100 in 2023. Not if, ands, old, new, whatever.