HITS 9/27: Future #1 129k. Katy Perry 44k. Lil Tecca 42k.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Katy just released another version of 143 with live performances of old hits from Rock In Rio so hopefully this helps boost her numbers a bit!

[sedrickwilhelm]

FUTURE

[Choco]

Sept 26, 2024 13:42:58 GMT -5 zdm1998 said:

Idk for Katy to only be predicted 10k less than what Smile debuted with. When it felt like Smile's singles were bigger (NRO and Daisies), and she was in better standing with the public. I'm impressed. Especially given all the backlash she's received. I really think this shows though her team's stupid decision to not focus on streaming at all. Focused on the sales, that's why those are good, but the streams matter too.

I was just hoping she'd make the top 20. I didn't even know top 10 was in the cards.

"Never Really Over" was bigger but was released like a year before the album. "Daisies" was shortlived and even then wasn't that big at all. She's still significantly using the 2024 environment (physical sales with multiple variants) to somewhat lessen the drop. It's how Nicki opened to bigger numbers without an active hit, how Olivia masked a moderate streaming drop into a small increase of overall debut numbers, it was like 75% of the marketing tactic to keep Tortured Poets at the top, etc... Mind you not everyone can get away with it (Shakira had like 8 variants and still couldn't hit top 10 lmao).

Sept 26, 2024 15:59:26 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Katy just released another version of 143 with live performances of old hits from Rock In Rio so hopefully this helps boost her numbers a bit!

That's gonna be for week 2. It could help lessen the drop but those 30k pure sales have nowhere to go but down harshly.

I really wish the variants thing would be reigned in a bit by Billboard. It makes the chart feel way more artificial than it already as big acts can drop XYZ variant with crappy voice notes and a live version and move up and down as they wish. Not a dig against Katy, it's a good tactic for her to lessen the drop, but much like when BTS gamed the iTunes chart into a 10 week #1 hit that no one really heard elsewhere, it's annoying.

[zdm1998]

Sept 27, 2024 9:42:43 GMT -5 Choco said:

Sept 26, 2024 13:42:58 GMT -5 zdm1998 said:

Idk for Katy to only be predicted 10k less than what Smile debuted with. When it felt like Smile's singles were bigger (NRO and Daisies), and she was in better standing with the public. I'm impressed. Especially given all the backlash she's received. I really think this shows though her team's stupid decision to not focus on streaming at all. Focused on the sales, that's why those are good, but the streams matter too.

I was just hoping she'd make the top 20. I didn't even know top 10 was in the cards.

"Never Really Over" was bigger but was released like a year before the album. "Daisies" was shortlived and even then wasn't that big at all. She's still significantly using the 2024 environment (physical sales with multiple variants) to somewhat lessen the drop. It's how Nicki opened to bigger numbers without an active hit, how Olivia masked a moderate streaming drop into a small increase of overall debut numbers, it was like 75% of the marketing tactic to keep Tortured Poets at the top, etc... Mind you not everyone can get away with it (Shakira had like 8 variants and still couldn't hit top 10 lmao).

Sept 26, 2024 15:59:26 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Katy just released another version of 143 with live performances of old hits from Rock In Rio so hopefully this helps boost her numbers a bit!

That's gonna be for week 2. It could help lessen the drop but those 30k pure sales have nowhere to go but down harshly.

I really wish the variants thing would be reigned in a bit by Billboard. It makes the chart feel way more artificial than it already as big acts can drop XYZ variant with crappy voice notes and a live version and move up and down as they wish. Not a dig against Katy, it's a good tactic for her to lessen the drop, but much like when BTS gamed the iTunes chart into a 10 week #1 hit that no one really heard elsewhere, it's annoying.

I get NRO was out long before the album drop, but fact being its a steady streamer. 701 million Spotify streams equates to a relatively successful streaming song. Those weekly stream's don't just completely bottom out a year later, and it shows given how many streams its sitting at now. I'm sure it wasn't pulling in nearly the amount of streams it did when it was first released, when Smile came out, but I'm sure it was still pulling in relatively good streams, even after being out for a year.

And while Daisies wasn't very much of a hit at all. I still think it's outdone anything she's tried on 143.

[Choco]

She did 21 million streams on that week and someone said 143 is pacing to do 14 million ish? Meaning yeah there were bigger hits. She's still getting a decrease because even in the face of the variants she's doing around 5k less pure sales (35k for Smile). My point is she would have dropped much more on that department without all the variants which is why the number feels "close" to what Smile did. It's still overall a 20% decrease in activity even if it feels like "just 10k". 10k is a lot when the numbers get this small.

Smile's chart run btw: 5-54-104-160-out. Should be an interesting comparison with the next week removing all the preorder sales and physicals.

BTW I read on Twitter that Teenage Dream is reportedly doing 14k on streams alone this week, more than her new album...

[avamaxstan]

Sept 26, 2024 13:42:58 GMT -5 zdm1998 said:

Idk for Katy to only be predicted 10k less than what Smile debuted with. When it felt like Smile's singles were bigger (NRO and Daisies), and she was in better standing with the public. I'm impressed. Especially given all the backlash she's received. I really think this shows though her team's stupid decision to not focus on streaming at all. Focused on the sales, that's why those are good, but the streams matter too.

I was just hoping she'd make the top 20. I didn't even know top 10 was in the cards.

Ehh it's sort of apples and oranges. Smile was barely an era, dropped during covid lockdown with no promotion more than a year after the lead single. 143 was one of the best promoted eras in recent memory, big marketing budget and Katy has been everywhere for it around the world. It should've easily cleared Smile's first week, even without a hit single.

[strongerq]

hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

LW	TW	Artist	Title	Label	Total	Change	Albums	TEA	SEA
--	1	FUTURE	MIXTAPE PLUTO	FREEBANDZ/EPIC (SME)	129,242	--	10,349	270	118,623
3	2	CHAPPELL ROAN	THE RISE AND FALL OF A MIDWEST PRINCESS	ISLAND (UMG)	118,021	82%	69,118	730	48,173
2	3	SABRINA CARPENTER	SHORT N' SWEET	ISLAND (UMG)	97,334	-5%	13,797	805	82,731
4	4	POST MALONE	F-1 TRILLION	MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)	54,052	-11%	2,738	826	50,488
6	5	MORGAN WALLEN	ONE THING AT A TIME	BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)	53,496	7%	767	471	52,258
7	6	TAYLOR SWIFT	THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT	REPUBLIC (UMG)	46,925	-6%	4,149	207	42,569
9	7	BILLIE EILISH	HIT ME HARD AND SOFT	DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE (UMG)	44,693	6%	5,048	427	39,217
--	8	KATY PERRY	143	CAPITOL (UMG)	44,089	--	34,386	404	9,298
--	9	LIL TECCA	PLAN A	GALACTIC/REPUBLIC (UMG)	42,288	--	13,230	33	29,025
11	10	NOAH KAHAN	STICK SEASON	MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)	37,193	3%	2,000	184	35,010
10	11	ZACH BRYAN	THE GREAT AMERICAN BAR SCENE	WARNER (WMG)	35,506	-4%	207	232	35,068
12	12	MORGAN WALLEN	DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM	BIG LOUD/MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)	33,942	9%	352	183	33,406
14	13	SZA	SOS	TDE/RCA (SME)	29,914	4%	1,070	55	28,790
13	14	CHARLI XCX	BRAT	ATLANTIC (WMG)	28,382	-7%	2,520	191	25,671
15	15	ZACH BRYAN	ZACH BRYAN	WARNER (WMG)	27,851	-2%	1,687	127	26,036
16	16	ZACH BRYAN	AMERICAN HEARTBREAK	WARNER (WMG)	26,153	-1%	727	219	25,208
17	17	PESO PLUMA	EXODO	DOUBLE P (THE ORCHARD)	26,126	2%	25	41	26,060
22	18	TITO DOUBLE P	INCOMODO	DOUBLE P (THE ORCHARD)	26,011	7%	9	17	25,985
21	19	SHABOOZEY	WHERE I'VE BEEN, ISN'T WHERE I'M GOING	AMERICAN DOGWOOD/EMPIRE (EMPIRE)	24,689	1%	835	882	22,971
--	20	P1HARMONY	SAD SONG	FNC ENTERTAINMENT (KAKAO)	24,239	--	23,112	30	1,097
19	21	BENSON BOONE	FIREWORKS & ROLLERBLADES	NIGHT STREET/WARNER (WMG)	23,121	-7%	873	417	21,832
18	22	TEDDY SWIMS	I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING BUT THERAPY (PART 1)	WARNER (WMG)	22,513	-10%	2,065	802	19,646
5	23	EMINEM	THE DEATH OF SLIM SHADY (COUP DE GRACE)	SHADY/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG)	22,183	-56%	3,582	457	18,144
23	24	TAYLOR SWIFT	LOVER	REPUBLIC (UMG)	21,083	-4%	2,199	224	18,660
27	25	FUTURE & METRO BOOMIN	WE DON'T TRUST YOU	BOOMINATI/FREEBANDZ/REPUBLIC/EPIC (UMG/SME)	20,284	0%	274	51	19,959
25	26	GRACIE ABRAMS	THE SECRET OF US	INTERSCOPE (UMG)	20,241	-4%	1,903	94	18,244
24	27	TWISTERS: THE ALBUM	SOUNDTRACK	ATLANTIC (WMG)	20,035	-7%	1,402	501	18,132
28	28	TAYLOR SWIFT	FOLKLORE	REPUBLIC (UMG)	19,285	1%	2,611	81	16,593
--	29	POST MALONE	THE DIAMOND COLLECTION	MERCURY/REPUBLIC (UMG)	18,690	--	147	100	18,443
32	30	LUKE COMBS	THIS ONE'S FOR YOU	RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE (SME)	18,563	6%	228	84	18,251
31	31	FRANK OCEAN	BLONDE	BOYS DON'T CRY (BLONDED)	18,417	3%	105	18	18,294
30	32	TAYLOR SWIFT	MIDNIGHTS	REPUBLIC (UMG)	18,121	0%	1,757	105	16,258
37	33	TRAVIS SCOTT	UTOPIA	CACTUS JACK/EPIC (SME)	17,998	7%	277	54	17,667
29	34	OLIVIA RODRIGO	GUTS	GEFFEN (UMG)	17,931	-2%	1,726	63	16,142
35	35	PESO PLUMA	GENESIS	DOUBLE P/PRAJIN PARLAY (THE ORCHARD)	17,859	6%	16	23	17,819
36	36	BAD BUNNY	UN VERANO SIN TI	RIMAS (THE ORCHARD)	17,787	6%	98	30	17,659
--	37	KEITH URBAN	HIGH	CAPITOL NASHVILLE (UMG)	17,631	--	13,384	293	3,953
41	38	DRAKE	FOR ALL THE DOGS	OVO/REPUBLIC (UMG)	17,456	6%	5	16	17,434
33	39	TAYLOR SWIFT	1989 (TAYLOR'S VERSION)	REPUBLIC (UMG)	16,670	-4%	2,610	114	13,946
34	40	FLEETWOOD MAC	RUMOURS	WARNER (WMG)	16,471	-4%	2,687	166	13,618
38	41	KENDRICK LAMAR	DAMN.	TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG)	16,356	-2%	1,238	31	15,087
--	42	DON TOLIVER	HARDSTONE PSYCHO	CACTUS JACK/ATLANTIC (WMG)	16,322	--	1,286	28	15,008
40	43	ELTON JOHN	DIAMONDS	ISLAND (UMG)	16,164	-2%	326	246	15,592
43	44	EMINEM	CURTAIN CALL	SHADY/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG)	16,156	0%	413	185	15,558
42	45	OLIVIA RODRIGO	SOUR	GEFFEN (UMG)	16,148	-1%	1,302	72	14,774
46	46	KEN CARSON	A GREAT CHAOS	OPIUM/INTERSCOPE (UMG)	15,901	5%	12	11	15,879
--	47	LINKIN PARK	PAPERCUTS	WARNER (WMG)	15,848	--	908	196	14,744
45	48	KENDRICK LAMAR	GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY	TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE (UMG)	15,818	2%	1,334	21	14,463
39	49	CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL	CHRONICLE: THE 20 GREATEST HITS	FANTASY (UMG)	15,717	-5%	1,267	160	14,291
50	50	SZA	CTRL	TDE/RCA (SME)	15,162	3%	1,346	11	13,805

[jdanton2]

Travis Scott out of the top 50 again.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^That would guarantee his album having one of the top 10 biggest drops from #1 in the Billboard 200. Let's see how close it comes to This House Is Not for Sale's record drop to #169.

[fridayteenage]

Let's go Sabrina number one next week

[ObhiDonna]

Sabrina’s hold is amazing!

[Choco]

Sept 27, 2024 15:59:55 GMT -5 jdanton2 said:

Travis Scott out of the top 50 again.

What a joke lol

[sedrickwilhelm]

He's not much of a joke. Besides he still has UTOPIA in the top 50. I think it makes a lot of sense that Days Before Rodeo is not still in the top 50 selling albums this week. And the reason UTOPIA is is because it is newer music and has more recent and on-going hits. Now-a-days a lot of albums on the list are carried by some big songs still being streamed heavy, and UTOPIA is not even that old, just came out summer last year. I don't see what is so negative or resentful about it that it has to be a "joke."

[Enigma.]

Bizarre that nothing on Travis' mixtape/album/project is doing well on streaming. Like where do those sales come from if people are not listening to the album? He has only 200k fans overall?

[Choco]

Sept 28, 2024 23:12:09 GMT -5 sedrickwilhelm said:

He's not much of a joke. Besides he still has UTOPIA in the top 50. I think it makes a lot of sense that Days Before Rodeo is not still in the top 50 selling albums this week. And the reason UTOPIA is is because it is newer music and has more recent and on-going hits. Now-a-days a lot of albums on the list are carried by some big songs still being streamed heavy, and UTOPIA is not even that old, just came out summer last year. I don't see what is so negative or resentful about it that it has to be a "joke."

The way the album goes up and down the chart for technicalities and not an actual resurgence of popularity is the joke. The rest of your stantement idc bc my post was not about him himself but the chart formula and shenanigans.

[avamaxstan]

A record that no one will ever be able to break :claps:

[avamaxstan]

Sept 28, 2024 23:12:09 GMT -5 sedrickwilhelm said:

He's not much of a joke. Besides he still has UTOPIA in the top 50. I think it makes a lot of sense that Days Before Rodeo is not still in the top 50 selling albums this week. And the reason UTOPIA is is because it is newer music and has more recent and on-going hits. Now-a-days a lot of albums on the list are carried by some big songs still being streamed heavy, and UTOPIA is not even that old, just came out summer last year. I don't see what is so negative or resentful about it that it has to be a "joke."

It dropped entirely out of the top 200, from #1 last week. Embarrassing fraudulence. 

[Mayman]

Sept 30, 2024 15:09:06 GMT -5 avamaxstan said:

Sept 28, 2024 23:12:09 GMT -5 sedrickwilhelm said:

He's not much of a joke. Besides he still has UTOPIA in the top 50. I think it makes a lot of sense that Days Before Rodeo is not still in the top 50 selling albums this week. And the reason UTOPIA is is because it is newer music and has more recent and on-going hits. Now-a-days a lot of albums on the list are carried by some big songs still being streamed heavy, and UTOPIA is not even that old, just came out summer last year. I don't see what is so negative or resentful about it that it has to be a "joke."

It dropped entirely out of the top 200, from #1 last week. Embarrassing fraudulence. 

While it is a little embarassing - it wasn't fraudulence. He's the biggest pure selling male artist of the decade. This album obviously isn't going to stream well since it's 10 years old. It's being released physically for the first time and those physicals shipped last week.

[Choco]

Yeah, it's not really a fraud, I do believe it moved the units they say it moved... it's just dumb how the charts work like that sometimes.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 30, 2024 15:59:53 GMT -5 Choco said:

Yeah, it's not really a fraud, I do believe it moved the units they say it moved... it's just dumb how the charts work like that sometimes.

Yeah fraudulent sales were those 2nd week Paris numbers. lol