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Post by Matt4319 on Feb 25, 2004 13:03:14 GMT -5
It's gotten to the point where I don't have the time/energy/desire/etc. to publish the chart every week. I was talking to Ethan about this, and he suggested letting a few people take turns making the chart each week so it isn't as much of a burden on one person.
So if anyone is interested in helping me out with this, send me a private message or reply to this topic. Please be advised that this is a time-consuming process taking at least 5-6 hours per week. If you're up for it, let me know. If you want to help but are not sure how the process is done, PM me and I'll take you through the steps.
I'd like to have at least two other volunteers, for a three-week cycle between each person's stint, but if six other people want to help out, that's fine too. It would also allow for more room for another person to step in if someone else can't do it that week or something.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 25, 2004 15:27:46 GMT -5
I know what you mean. Pulse Callout is a month behind now. :( I just don't have the desire to work it anymore. I can blame it on lack of interest of the rest of the board but I dunno if that's it. Also, the fact that there are so many problems with the webform certainly isn't inspiring.
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Post by Mega248 on Feb 25, 2004 15:45:14 GMT -5
As I already told you, I'd be happy to do it at least some of the time. I can't garuntee it will always be on time, but I'll do my best.
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Post by j on Feb 25, 2004 16:58:14 GMT -5
I wish someone here is smart enough to write some kind of html program that can do the chart automatically every week.
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Post by BlahBlahBlah on Feb 25, 2004 18:20:05 GMT -5
I would be able to do something like that if only everyone's formatting is the same!
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Post by insect2 on Feb 25, 2004 21:00:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I might be able to help for a chart or two. Though, I can't promise I'd be able to balance it between pending schoolwork, and of course the latter would be the tiebreaker. But it might be possible. I haven't done something like this in over a year.
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Post by j on Feb 25, 2004 23:01:55 GMT -5
I would be able to do something like that if only everyone's formatting is the same! Then why don't we implement that? Matt? |
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Post by Bob on Feb 26, 2004 14:46:44 GMT -5
Then why don't we implement that? Matt? we should use Excel |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2004 14:47:51 GMT -5
I would be able to do something like that if only everyone's formatting is the same! Yeah, I personally would have no problem doing my chart in a certain format if it would make things easier for you guys. |
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Post by mst3k on Feb 26, 2004 15:32:23 GMT -5
Same here.
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Post by Matt4319 on Feb 26, 2004 17:10:29 GMT -5
It doesn't really make a difference to me personally what formats the charts are posted in. Over the past two years I've learned to go through the charts quickly no matter how they are posted. Of course, if others find it easier for a specific format, I'd be fine with it. Excel spreadsheets are fine, but don't necessarily make it quicker to compile. It wouldn't even be quicker if everyone sent their chart in an Excel spreadsheet to whoever was compiling the Pulse 100 that week. Unless there's some obvious way that I'm not aware of... the method I use is tried and true. But it's getting a bit tiring.
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Post by FreakyFlyBry on Feb 26, 2004 17:29:56 GMT -5
I may be interested in helping out at some point.
If there's a way to compile it if they're all in the same format, I wouldn't have a problem adapting.
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Post by BlahBlahBlah on Feb 26, 2004 20:28:54 GMT -5
It doesn't really make a difference to me personally what formats the charts are posted in. Over the past two years I've learned to go through the charts quickly no matter how they are posted. Of course, if others find it easier for a specific format, I'd be fine with it. Excel spreadsheets are fine, but don't necessarily make it quicker to compile. It wouldn't even be quicker if everyone sent their chart in an Excel spreadsheet to whoever was compiling the Pulse 100 that week. Unless there's some obvious way that I'm not aware of... the method I use is tried and true. But it's getting a bit tiring. |
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Post by Guy LeDouche on Feb 27, 2004 2:16:12 GMT -5
I have enough rudementary Java and HTML under my belt to bang out a little program that could take charts from any reasonably coherent form of formatting and spit them out onto a webpage.
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Post by Matt4319 on Feb 27, 2004 14:37:15 GMT -5
Guy, I've sent off the stuff you needed to do what you explained in the PM to me. The thing is, if they do that, I can easily whip out a program that can automatically tabulates the chart. Would it have to be stripped down to Position, Artist, and Title though? And if so, how would you extract that from all the other data people post with their chart like Weeks on, Peak, etc.? |
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Post by BlahBlahBlah on Feb 27, 2004 16:27:45 GMT -5
Would it have to be stripped down to Position, Artist, and Title though? And if so, how would you extract that from all the other data people post with their chart like Weeks on, Peak, etc.? |
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Post by Matt4319 on Feb 27, 2004 16:31:49 GMT -5
Not exactly, as long as people post with the correct format, then they can do whatever with it. Can you send me a copy of the Excel file so I can see what I can do with it? Sure, if you get on AIM. ;) |
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Post by BlahBlahBlah on Feb 27, 2004 17:08:42 GMT -5
Sure, if you get on AIM. ;)  |
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Post by Matt4319 on Feb 27, 2004 17:23:29 GMT -5
Well now that AIM is down, can you get on MSN? I'm on Yahoo Messenger... I've had troubles with MSN lately. |
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Post by mark1969 on Feb 27, 2004 18:11:32 GMT -5
i would be willing to help in anyway that i can as i currently do 2 music websites & charts online, they are done using openoffice 1.1.0 in Html format, but i am still learning more and more things to improve both my websites and also remember i am an aussie.
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Post by insect2 on Feb 27, 2004 21:43:38 GMT -5
I'd just like to state for the record that I don't know how to put an Excel chart onto a webpage. If I did a chart, I'd have to send it to someone who knew how. Would that be OK?
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Post by billcs on Feb 28, 2004 8:05:33 GMT -5
A web page can easily be done in Word. You could even copy the relevant data from Excel into Word and then just reformat the Word copy and make a template.
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Post by timjhar on Feb 29, 2004 5:49:52 GMT -5
I may have an answer for the processing of the charts. In the new beta version of Beyond Radio you can upload your chart as a text file and the system will put it in a central database that then can be downloaded as an Excel file by the administrator at the end of the week. Billcs is already uploading charts for me in this way. If you guys wanted to uplaod your charts there and we could establish a "pulse chart" option, then Matt could download the Excel file of all the Pulse charts and create the weekly chart in much less time. There is one catch. Song titles and Artist have to be typed the same way or a new data record is established. For example, Beyonce can have multiple records for Baby Boy if the artist name is written, Beyonce, Beyonce', Beyonce f/Sean Paul, Beyonce w/Sean Paul etc. If, especially with artist with featured artists we establish a format then there would be less errors to catch. People could still post there charts here in any format they wanted but the data would be collected via Beyond Radio. This also would ensure that your chart gets used for all the Beyond Radio charts it fits into. Take a look at the site at olc-02.mcc-sys.com/beta/This could be a great thing for all of us because then the Pulse chart and Beyond Radio can grow without a ton of extra work involved. I know that is something I've wanted and needed for a long time and theoretically it can work great. Matt, the system also downloads the most recent chart from the last 4 weeks for a member with the dtae of the chart so keeping track of that is easy as well. |
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Post by Matt4319 on Feb 29, 2004 14:16:53 GMT -5
There is one catch. Song titles and Artist have to be typed the same way or a new data record is established. For example, Beyonce can have multiple records for Baby Boy if the artist name is written, Beyonce, Beyonce', Beyonce f/Sean Paul, Beyonce w/Sean Paul etc. If, especially with artist with featured artists we establish a format then there would be less errors to catch. Yeah, that definitely poses a problem. You even forgot all the spellings with Beyoncé, lol. Perhaps you could do something like what Sunny did with his program (explained in this topic), which is to just look at the first 5 characters of each title/artist instead of reading the whole thing. That would count all the following as the same title: Baby Boy - Beyonce Baby Boy - Beyonce, Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyonce f/Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyonce and Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyoncé Baby Boy - Beyoncé f/Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyoncé, Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyoncé and Sean Paul etc. It also differentiates among multiple songs with the same title, such as: Angel - Sarah McLachlan Angel - Shaggy Angel - Amanda Perez |
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Post by billcs on Feb 29, 2004 22:25:49 GMT -5
Matt, I don't know if you've looked at the Beyond Radio beta site, but since I've been uploading the Adult Dance charts there, it's worked quite well. Like anything else, we all just need to find that extra time to do it all... But I think what Tim's suggesting is a good option.
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Post by Matt4319 on Mar 1, 2004 1:15:09 GMT -5
Matt, I don't know if you've looked at the Beyond Radio beta site, but since I've been uploading the Adult Dance charts there, it's worked quite well. Like anything else, we all just need to find that extra time to do it all... But I think what Tim's suggesting is a good option. I really would like for something to work here... but I'm just not sure if we can get over 50 people to type the artist, title, etc. in the exact same way. How many people have been contributing to the Adult Dance chart, or whatever charts that have been compiled using this database system? |
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Post by j on Mar 1, 2004 1:54:18 GMT -5
Baby Boy - Beyonce Baby Boy - Beyonce, Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyonce f/Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyonce and Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyoncé Baby Boy - Beyoncé f/Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyoncé, Sean Paul Baby Boy - Beyoncé and Sean Paul You're forgetting all the different possibilities with Beyounce. Maybe the first 4 letters is enough. Mediabase song url's only have 4 letters too. |
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Post by billcs on Mar 1, 2004 15:52:16 GMT -5
I really would like for something to work here... but I'm just not sure if we can get over 50 people to type the artist, title, etc. in the exact same way. How many people have been contributing to the Adult Dance chart, or whatever charts that have been compiled using this database system? Well if you and a few helpers set up a template for each contributing chart, then each contributor could either go in and: * manually change their chart positions each week * upload their chart in the prescribed format It really doesn't take a long time to modify a format, all it takes is to copy the original file into a separate file and make the modifications. People may resent doing double the work just to contribute to the Pulse 100 and that's a valid point regardless of how much time it actually takes to do it. |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 1, 2004 16:27:16 GMT -5
I separate artists by just a /
#100 Too Many O' Us - Beyounce/Sean Paul/Rob64/Shaggy/Jay-Z/Michelle Williams/Destiny's Child/Celine Dion
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Post by Guy LeDouche on Mar 1, 2004 20:42:15 GMT -5
Nice job, y'all. I was trying to write a little program like this but it was the song title/artist thing that was hanging me up.
I would be super easy to write a program to automatically make the web page out of the excel data, so it wouldn't have to be entered manually. I can try to work that out if you guys want.
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