Alternative year-end chart of 2005 predictions?

[Mega248]

At this point, it looks like the top three will be:

1. Nine Inch Nails- The Hand That Feeds
2. Green Day- Boulevard of Broken Dreams
3. Green Day- Holiday

When's the last time a group occupied two of the top 3 spots on the year-end chart, on any format?

"Mr. Brightside", "Feel Good Inc.", "Beverly Hills", "Best of You" and "E-Pro" should have no problem finishing in the top 10.

[agon666]

I think Holiday might pass BOBD, as would Best Of You.

[jdmasta289]

Believe me, I really don't want to ruin what could be an interesting conversation on the songs that will become the biggest hits of what was, in my opinion, an excellent year for alternative music, and a "revival year" as well for '90s artists such as the Foo Fighters, Beck, Nine Inch Nails, Green Day, and more.

The year-end charts should NOT be comprised the way they are.  I have never taken R&R year-end charts seriously because of the recurrent airplay that they include in their calculations.  For example, a song that is only on the chart for the first three or four weeks of the year should NOT belong in the top 30 by year's end.  If it's not on the chart, don't count it!!

I personally calculate the year-end charts based on point values for each song that hits the top 50.  I believe that is a better way, and then songs that barely or never made the Top 50 (like that Slipknot song from 1999, can't remember the title) won't be in the Top 100, where they shouldn't belong.  Calculate based on CHART success, not total PLUS recurrent spins.

I'm sorry, I'm just really frustrated at how R&R calculates their year-end charts, and I personally try to ignore them completely.

[Mega248]

jdmasta289 said:

Believe me, I really don't want to ruin what could be an interesting conversation on the songs that will become the biggest hits of what was, in my opinion, an excellent year for alternative music, and a "revival year" as well for '90s artists such as the Foo Fighters, Beck, Nine Inch Nails, Green Day, and more.

The year-end charts should NOT be comprised the way they are.  I have never taken R&R year-end charts seriously because of the recurrent airplay that they include in their calculations.  For example, a song that is only on the chart for the first three or four weeks of the year should NOT belong in the top 30 by year's end.  If it's not on the chart, don't count it!!

I personally calculate the year-end charts based on point values for each song that hits the top 50.  I believe that is a better way, and then songs that barely or never made the Top 50 (like that Slipknot song from 1999, can't remember the title) won't be in the Top 100, where they shouldn't belong.  Calculate based on CHART success, not total PLUS recurrent spins.

I'm sorry, I'm just really frustrated at how R&R calculates their year-end charts, and I personally try to ignore them completely.

I can see where you're coming from, especially on the part about songs that only spend like three weeks at the beginning of the year on the chart, but the purpose of a year-end chart is to show which songs were played the most that year, and the only way to accurately represent that is to include any spins the song recieved, even if the vast majority of them were after the song was moved to recurrent status.

[jdmasta289]

I can see where you're coming from, especially on the part about songs that only spend like three weeks at the beginning of the year on the chart, but the purpose of a year-end chart is to show which songs were played the most that year, and the only way to accurately represent that is to include any spins the song recieved, even if the vast majority of them were after the song was moved to recurrent status.

I don't mean to be nitpicky, but, in that case, why not set all the old Linkin Park, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, STP, Smashing Pumpkins, RHCP, Audioslave, and Nirvana songs in the Top 100 for the year?

If the year-end charts are measured on airplay, and the old recurrents are still getting 75-100 spins for an entire week for 52 weeks, wouldn't that qualify songs like "In The End" (Linkin Park), "Like A Stone" (Audioslave), and "By The Way" (RHCP) for the Top 100 for this year, as well?

Again, I don't mean to be argumentative, but I just think it's a poor way to calculate popularity. Then, artists like Garbage only peak somewhere in the 80's with a song that peaked around #8.

It makes me wonder if golds like "Even Flow" or "Smells Like Teen Spirit" would hit the Top 100 for this year, as well.

[halo19]

I would actually have to disagree. If they're going to play it more than other songs that are in the top 50 anyway, those songs should count, too. It reflects airplay, which the charts are supposed to.

The recurrent rule shouldn't even exist in the first place (case in point: "Bandages" from a couple years ago).

[alexcuse]

Holiday has already passed BOBD...

Here's the top ten of the year so far:
Rank, ARTIST, Title of Song, Year-to-Date Airplay
1 NINE INCH NAILS The Hand That Feeds 59111
2 GREEN DAY Holiday 54111
3 WEEZER Beverly Hills 52684
4 GREEN DAY Boulevard of Broken Dreams 50179
5 FOO FIGHTERS Best of You 49090
6 KILLERS Mr. Brightside 44450
7 BECK E Pro 43860
8 QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE Little Sister 43214
9 SYSTEM OF A DOWN B.Y.O.B. 39078
10 AUDIOSLAVE Be Yourself 38019

Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc (#13) is probably strong enough to make the top five if it doesn't have huge drops at the end of the year. Seether - Remedy (#14), Staind - Right Here (#24), and Green Day - Wake Me Up When September Ends (#27) all have good shots at the top ten too.

My predictions:

1 NINE INCH NAILS The Hand That Feeds
2 FOO FIGHTERS Best of You
3 WEEZER Beverly Hills
4 GREEN DAY Holiday
5 GORILLAZ Feel Good Inc.
6 GREEN DAY Boulevard of Broken Dreams
7 KILLERS Mr. Brightside
8 QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE Little Sister
9 BECK E Pro
10 GREEN DAY Wake Me Up When September Ends

[Mega248]

alexcuse said:

Holiday has already passed BOBD...

R&R uses the airplay from December of the previous year through November of the current year to determine the year-end charts. "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" got about 12,000 spins more than "Holiday" in December, so "BOBD" will most likely finish with slightly more spins than "Hoilday".

[tortuga]

E Pro?

[ChartKid]

Does anyone have the December spins? BOBD was #1 for all of December. I don't think NIN has passed them already including those, have they? I still find it possible BOBD could be #1 for the year. It should on Rock at least.

[DuckHead]

chartkid said:

Does anyone have the December spins?  BOBD was #1 for all of December.  I don't think NIN has passed them already including those, have they?  I still find it possible BOBD could be #1 for the year.  It should on Rock at least.

"Boulevard..." had 12591 spins in December.

[alexcuse]

ehl said:

alexcuse said:

Holiday has already passed BOBD...

R&R uses the airplay from December of the previous year through November of the current year to determine the year-end charts. "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" got about 12,000 spins more than "Holiday" in December, so "BOBD" will most likely finish with slightly more spins than "Hoilday".

Sorry, my bad...