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Post by Bob on Jan 6, 2004 18:59:20 GMT -5
Here is the list of first-singles of R&B stars, complied by the following criteria:
1. They've released new material within the past two years
2. They debuted no sooner than Janet Jackson
3. They've had more than one album
4. Their debut single is the one considered to be their first song to reach top 10 of either pop or R&B (Billboard charts)
Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
Monica - Don't Take It Personal
Mya - It's All About Me
Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
Ashanti - Foolish
Aaliyah - Back & Forth
Usher - You Make Me Wanna
Ginuwine - Pony
Tamia - Imagination
Alicia Keys - Fallin'
Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
Deborah Cox - Sentimental
Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
Kelly Price - Friend of Mine
Erykah Badu - On & On
Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
R. Kelly - Sex Me
Shanice - I Love Your Smile
Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way
Brian McKnight – One Last Cry
Musiq – Just Friends
Tyrese – Sweet Lady
Vanessa Williams - Dreamin'
Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It
Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It
Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
SEE PAGE THREE FOR VOTING CATEGORIES
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Post by mst3k on Jan 6, 2004 19:11:21 GMT -5
2. They debuted no later than Janet Jackson I guess I don't understand that rule... do you mean their first hit had to be prior to Janet's first? 'Cause that would eliminate Mariah and R. Kelly... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2004 19:12:19 GMT -5
I think he means no one that debuted before 1982... or probably 1985 because he doesn't consider an artists career to begin until they've had a Top 10 hit.
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Post by Bob on Jan 6, 2004 19:14:59 GMT -5
crap-- thanks, I fixed that. yes, i meant sooner than JJ, and yes, 1985 not that nonsense pre-Control stuff. and i'm considering janet as the beginning of modern R&B, b/c well she is. not that it hasn't changed since then.
i'm gonna add a couple more (feel free to dispute)
Toni Braxton - You Mean the World To Me
Alicia Keys - Fallin'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2004 19:19:31 GMT -5
Toni Braxton - You Mean the World To Me How is this her first hit, when she had two hits prior that were even bigger? |
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Post by mst3k on Jan 6, 2004 19:20:42 GMT -5
How 'bout:
Brian McKnight - One Last Cry
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Post by Bob on Jan 6, 2004 19:46:15 GMT -5
thx both-- fixed Toni and added Brian to the top post
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Post by Bob on Jan 6, 2004 21:02:42 GMT -5
to keep things rolling:
Monica - Just One of Them Days (Don't Take it Personal)
Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
Aaliyah - Back & Forth
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Post by jond7699 on Jan 6, 2004 23:12:19 GMT -5
Mya - "It's All About Me"
Missy Elliot - "Supa Supa Fly"
Deborah Cox - "Sentimental" (peaked #4 on Billboards R&B)
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Post by Edf85 on Jan 7, 2004 1:42:30 GMT -5
to keep things rolling: Monica - Just One of Them Days (Don't Take it Personal) Brandy - I Wanna Be Down Aaliyah - Back & Forth [EvanJ] It's "Don't Take It Personal (Just One Of Dem Days)" [/EvanJ] |
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Post by Bob on Jan 7, 2004 8:36:45 GMT -5
updated!
who knows whether Tamia's first single was "Imagination" or "So Into You"?
Keep adding!
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Post by jond7699 on Jan 7, 2004 8:49:11 GMT -5
"Imagination" was Tamia's firts single if I remember correctly
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Post by Bob on Jan 7, 2004 17:09:29 GMT -5
Ok ok, I'll try to finish this up on my own then we'll do voting. But add or correct anything that's wrong.
Musiq – Just Friends
Tyrese – Sweet Lady
Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
Kelly Price - Friend of Mine
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2004 17:10:44 GMT -5
How are you counting Usher's "Think Of You"? You might as well count Janet's "Young Love". They were the same sized hit basically.
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Post by chebingeo on Jan 7, 2004 17:32:46 GMT -5
Vanessa Williams - Dreamin'
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 7, 2004 19:04:12 GMT -5
Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It?
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Post by Bob on Jan 7, 2004 22:06:22 GMT -5
Sigh... Josh always giving me a hard time... I didn't count Janet's b/c it didn't make top 10 R&B-- but it did make top 10 "Black Singles" lol... I don't think it's fair to count that. So ok ok, I'll change usher to you make me wanna.
added glenn and vanessa-- any more??
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Post by jond7699 on Jan 7, 2004 22:43:08 GMT -5
Montell Jordan - "This Is How We Do It"
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Post by Bob on Jan 7, 2004 23:46:47 GMT -5
Montell Jordan - "This Is How We Do It" good one... also made me remember Donell Jones. U Know Whats Up, although his 4th release, was the first to crack top 10. |
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Post by Bob on Jan 8, 2004 13:11:19 GMT -5
ROUND ONE:
Voting is to be done in 7 groups of four, rank songs 1-4, ties allowed.
Group 1:
Aaliyah - Back & Forth
Alicia Keys - Fallin'
Ashanti - Foolish
Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
Group 2:
Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
Brian McKnight – One Last Cry
Deborah Cox - Sentimental
Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
Group 3:
Erykah Badu - On & On
Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
Ginuwine - Pony
Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It
Group 4:
Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way
Kelly Price - Friend of Mine
Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
Group 5:
Monica - Don't Take It Personal
Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It
Musiq – Just Friends
Mya - It's All About Me
Group 6:
R. Kelly - Sex Me
Shanice - I Love Your Smile
Tamia - Imagination
Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
Group 7:
Tyrese – Sweet Lady
Usher - You Make Me Wanna
Vanessa Williams - Dreamin'
Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
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Post by Bob on Jan 8, 2004 13:13:24 GMT -5
ROUND ONE: Voting is to be done in 7 groups of four, rank songs 1-4, ties allowed. Group 1: 1.Aaliyah - Back & Forth 1.Alicia Keys - Fallin' 4.Ashanti - Foolish 3.Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style) Group 2: 2.Brandy - I Wanna Be Down 4.Brian McKnight – One Last Cry 3.Deborah Cox - Sentimental 1.Donell Jones - U Know What's Up Group 3: 1.Erykah Badu - On & On 2.Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me 3.Ginuwine - Pony 4.Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It Group 4: 1.Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately 4.Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way 3.Kelly Price - Friend of Mine 1.Mariah Carey - Vision of Love Group 5: 1.Monica - Don't Take It Personal 2.Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It 4.Musiq – Just Friends 3.Mya - It's All About Me Group 6: 3.R. Kelly - Sex Me 2.Shanice - I Love Your Smile 4.Tamia - Imagination 1.Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song Group 7: 2.Tyrese – Sweet Lady 1.Usher - You Make Me Wanna 4.Vanessa Williams - Dreamin' 3.Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2004 13:40:56 GMT -5
LOL @ me giving you a hard time. I just want it to be fair.  ROUND ONE: Voting is to be done in 7 groups of four, rank songs 1-4, ties allowed. Group 1: 1. Aaliyah - Back & Forth 2. Alicia Keys - Fallin' 3. Ashanti - Foolish 4. Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style) Group 2: 1. Brandy - I Wanna Be Down 2. Donell Jones - U Know What's Up 3. Deborah Cox - Sentimental 4. Brian McKnight – One Last Cry Group 3: 1. Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me 2. Ginuwine - Pony 3. Erykah Badu - On & On 4. Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It Group 4: 1. Mariah Carey - Vision of Love 2. Kelly Price - Friend of Mine 3. Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately 4. Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way Group 5: 1. Monica - Don't Take It Personal 2. Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It 3. Mya - It's All About Me 4. Musiq – Just Friends Group 6: 1. Shanice - I Love Your Smile 2. Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song 3. R. Kelly - Sex Me 4. Tamia - Imagination Group 7: 1. Vanessa Williams - Dreamin' 2. Tyrese – Sweet Lady 3. Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love 4. Usher - You Make Me Wanna I basically love every single one of these songs so nothing that I ranked #4 was a bad song. My least favorite on here is probably "One Last Cry" though. |
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Post by FreakyFlyBry on Jan 8, 2004 15:36:44 GMT -5
Group 1:
1.Alicia Keys - Fallin'
2.Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
3.Aaliyah - Back & Forth
4.Ashanti - Foolish
Group 2:
1.Deborah Cox - Sentimental
2.Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
3.Brian McKnight – One Last Cry
4.Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
Group 3:
1.Ginuwine - Pony
2.Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It
3.Erykah Badu - On & On
4.Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
Group 4:
1.Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
2.Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
3.Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way
4.Kelly Price - Friend of Mine
Group 5:
1.Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It
2.Mya - It's All About Me
3.Monica - Don't Take It Personal
4.Musiq – Just Friends
Group 6:
1.Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
2.Shanice - I Love Your Smile
3.Tamia - Imagination
4.R. Kelly - Sex Me
Group 7:
1.Usher - You Make Me Wanna
2.Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
3.Tyrese – Sweet Lady
4.Vanessa Williams - Dreamin'
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Post by Christos on Jan 11, 2004 12:16:24 GMT -5
Voting is to be done in 7 groups of four, rank songs 1-4, ties allowed.
Group 1:
1. Alicia Keys - Fallin'
2. Aaliyah - Back & Forth
2. Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
4. Ashanti - Foolish
Group 2:
1. Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
2. Deborah Cox - Sentimental
3. Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
4. Brian McKnight – One Last Cry
Group 3:
1. Erykah Badu - On & On
2. Ginuwine - Pony
3. Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
4. Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It
Group 4:
1. Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
1. Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way
3. Kelly Price - Friend of Mine
4. Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
Group 5:
1. Monica - Don't Take It Personal
2. Montell Jordan - This Is How We Do It
2. Musiq – Just Friends
4. Mya - It's All About Me
Group 6:
1. Shanice - I Love Your Smile
2. Tamia - Imagination
3. R. Kelly - Sex Me
4. Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
Group 7:
1. Usher - You Make Me Wanna
2. Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
3. Tyrese – Sweet Lady
4. Vanessa Williams - Dreamin'
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Post by mst3k on Jan 11, 2004 23:25:55 GMT -5
ROUND ONE:
Voting is to be done in 7 groups of four, rank songs 1-4, ties allowed.
Group 1:
1. Aaliyah - Back & Forth
2. Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
3. Alicia Keys - Fallin'
4. Ashanti - Foolish
Group 2:
1. Brian McKnight – One Last Cry
2. Deborah Cox - Sentimental
3. Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
4. Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
Group 3:
1. Ginuwine - Pony
2. Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It
3. Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
4. Erykah Badu - On & On
Group 4:
1. Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
2. Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
3. Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way
4. Kelly Price - Friend of Mine
Group 5:
1. Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It
2. Monica - Don't Take It Personal
3. Mya - It's All About Me
4. Musiq – Just Friends
Group 6:
1. Shanice - I Love Your Smile
2. Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
3. R. Kelly - Sex Me
4. Tamia - Imagination
Group 7:
1. Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
2. Usher - You Make Me Wanna
3. Vanessa Williams - Dreamin'
4. Tyrese – Sweet Lady
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Post by jond7699 on Jan 12, 2004 8:04:24 GMT -5
ROUND ONE:
Group 1:
3) Aaliyah - Back & Forth
2) Alicia Keys - Fallin'
4) Ashanti - Foolish
1) Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
Group 2:
1) Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
2) Brian McKnight – One Last Cry
3) Deborah Cox - Sentimental
4) Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
Group 3:
2) Erykah Badu - On & On
3) Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
1) Ginuwine - Pony
4) Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It
Group 4:
2) Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
4) Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way
3) Kelly Price - Friend of Mine
1) Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
Group 5:
2) Monica - Don't Take It Personal
1) Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It
4) Musiq – Just Friends
3) Mya - It's All About Me
Group 6:
3) R. Kelly - Sex Me
2) Shanice - I Love Your Smile
4) Tamia - Imagination
1) Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
Group 7:
4) Tyrese – Sweet Lady
3) Usher - You Make Me Wanna
2) Vanessa Williams - Dreamin'
1) Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
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Post by Bob on Jan 12, 2004 17:48:35 GMT -5
ROUND ONE IS OVER!
Based on the system, the worst 11 were eliminated, in order of worst to better:
Ashanti - Foolish
Musiq – Just Friends
Tamia - Imagination
Glenn Lewis - Don't You Forget It
Jill Scott - Gettin' In The Way
Kelly Price - Friend of Mine
R. Kelly - Sex Me
Brian McKnight – One Last Cry
Mya - It's All About Me
Tyrese – Sweet Lady
Vanessa Williams - Dreamin'
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Post by Bob on Jan 12, 2004 17:52:35 GMT -5
ROUND TWO:
GROUP 1:
Aaliyah - Back & Forth
Alicia Keys - Fallin'
Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
Deborah Cox - Sentimental
GROUP 2:
Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
Erykah Badu - On & On
Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
Ginuwine - Pony
GROUP 3:
Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
Monica - Don't Take It Personal
Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It
GROUP 4:
Shanice - I Love Your Smile
Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
Usher - You Make Me Wanna
Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2004 17:54:13 GMT -5
GROUP 1:
1. Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
2. Aaliyah - Back & Forth
3. Alicia Keys - Fallin'
4. Deborah Cox - Sentimental
5. Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
GROUP 2:
1. Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
2. Erykah Badu - On & On
3. Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
4. Ginuwine - Pony
GROUP 3:
1. Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
2. Monica - Don't Take It Personal
3. Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It
4. Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
GROUP 4:
1. Shanice - I Love Your Smile
2. Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
3. Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
4. Usher - You Make Me Wanna
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Post by Bob on Jan 12, 2004 17:55:02 GMT -5
GROUP 1:
1.Aaliyah - Back & Forth
2.Alicia Keys - Fallin'
4.Blu Cantrell - Oops (Hit Em Up Style)
5.Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
3.Deborah Cox - Sentimental
GROUP 2:
3.Donell Jones - U Know What's Up
1.Erykah Badu - On & On
2.Faith Evans - You Used To Love Me
4.Ginuwine - Pony
GROUP 3:
4.Janet Jackson - What Have You Done For Me Lately
1.Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
2.Monica - Don't Take It Personal
3.Montel Jordan - This Is How We Do It
GROUP 4:
1.Shanice - I Love Your Smile
3.Toni Braxton - Another Sad Love Song
2.Usher - You Make Me Wanna
4.Whitney Houston - You Give Good Love
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