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Post by FriendsFan on Apr 17, 2004 22:04:45 GMT -5
With the huge success of "With You" and "Take My Breath Away," should Jessica/Columbia give "The Sweetest Sin" another try?
I'm talking about as a single following "Take My Breath Away."
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Post by George Tropicana on Apr 17, 2004 22:45:14 GMT -5
Maybe. I thought she wanted to release "Angels."  "I Have Loved You" is another good single. |
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Post by strong4PMB! on Apr 18, 2004 0:07:47 GMT -5
Maybe. I thought she wanted to release "Angels." "I Have Loved You" is another good single. |
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Post by Gorminako on Apr 18, 2004 0:57:21 GMT -5
It's better than either "With You" or her version of "Take My Breath Away", so why not?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2004 6:00:39 GMT -5
I like it much better than the two singles she has released after it, but the song never sounded pop friendly to me. Maybe it would have been a hit in 1992, but it sounds dated now.
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Post by pkwi on Apr 18, 2004 7:20:32 GMT -5
No, "Sweetest Sin" is a decent Pop song overall, but the production and lyrics are too bland to help it stand out, Jessica and Columbia shouldn't attempt to revive it, it wouldn't work. Release another song as a fourth single, maybe "Forbidden Fruit".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2004 7:29:53 GMT -5
None of the non-singles really jump out as potential singles to pop radio. Her most played album track is "Angel" with 2 cumulative spins in the entire history of the album.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Apr 18, 2004 8:55:29 GMT -5
NO! The song is awful.
She has a couple of potential follow ups. I'd go with the title track. It has the same pop appeal as "With You". "Be" is similar and could work as well. If she wants to go the ballad route, I'd go with "You Don't Have To Let Go".
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Post by af18c on Apr 18, 2004 9:09:23 GMT -5
No, the song just wasnt good. They could release it internationally...but as far as the US goes, she should go with "Angels"
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Post by irice22 on Apr 18, 2004 10:23:44 GMT -5
She should move on. In fact, I think she should have released "I Have Loved You" third. She should have saved "Take My Breath Away" for a soundtrack or something, I hate when artists add songs onto their albums. I especially hate when they add singles on to their albums!
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Post by Pet Shop Boy on Apr 18, 2004 14:52:29 GMT -5
If she releases 'Angels' it'll have to be American only. No other country is going to accept such a poor version of a massive and not particularly old hit....
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Post by af18c on Apr 18, 2004 15:00:19 GMT -5
If she releases 'Angels' it'll have to be American only. No other country is going to accept such a poor version of a massive and not particularly old hit.... I agree. America will be the only receptive country because 1. Jessicas huge now and 2. Robbie Williams isnt |
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Apr 18, 2004 15:04:06 GMT -5
If she releases 'Angels' it'll have to be American only. No other country is going to accept such a poor version of a massive and not particularly old hit.... I agree that it's horrid, but that wouldn't necessarily stop it. In the UK particularly, awful covers top the charts regularly. |
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Post by DJstrawberryBounce on Apr 18, 2004 15:55:00 GMT -5
The song sucks especialy as a 1st single. I think she has little time left in the spot light....she is just so mediocure, she is not a good performer, and her dummbness will only get her so far for a little while longer. She wont be a newly wed forever, her music is so blah. And regret buying her album before the new version came out.
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Post by af18c on Apr 18, 2004 20:21:21 GMT -5
The song sucks especialy as a 1st single. Do you think if they released 'With You' as the first single, it would have hit #1? I dont think so...i dont think it wouldve cracked the top 10. I think they planned that. They released a song, they knew probally wouldnt got top 10 and then when Newlyweds came out, they figured to released the most radio-friendly song on the album. |
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Post by George Tropicana on Apr 18, 2004 20:33:28 GMT -5
Do you think if they released 'With You' as the first single, it would have hit #1? I dont think so...i dont think it wouldve cracked the top 10. I think they planned that. They released a song, they knew probally wouldnt got top 10 and then when Newlyweds came out, they figured to released the most radio-friendly song on the album. None of her songs would've touched the Top 40 if her show didn't become as big as it did. "Sweetest Sin" is a strong single, but she wasn't "famous" yet when it came out. "With You" is mediocre. It's not a great song. Does anybody remember when we all found out "With You" was a single and how we trashed it? |
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Post by inthemusiczone2004 on Apr 18, 2004 20:53:18 GMT -5
Do you think if they released 'With You' as the first single, it would have hit #1? I dont think so...i dont think it wouldve cracked the top 10. I think they planned that. They released a song, they knew probally wouldnt got top 10 and then when Newlyweds came out, they figured to released the most radio-friendly song on the album. Sorry but none of that wa splanned. On the Newlyweds show Jessica even talked about how she knew Sweetest Sinc shouldnt have been a 1st single but the label picked it and thats what they wanted. There was no "plan" for that. |
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Post by Ragin on Apr 19, 2004 10:42:07 GMT -5
No it shouldn't be given a second chance.
I really think a lot of her dumb moments are planned and scripted. I've seen other moments when she seems fairly sly, so I kind of wonder how much of that is put on.
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Post by j on Apr 19, 2004 10:48:03 GMT -5
This is an easy one.
NO!
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Post by Pet Shop Boy on Apr 19, 2004 11:15:48 GMT -5
I agree that it's horrid, but that wouldn't necessarily stop it. In the UK particularly, awful covers top the charts regularly. Yes, but usually only when it's either a Pop idol contestant singing it, or it's an old song. I'm telling you now, she releases this in the UK, she'll tank..... |
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Post by pkwi on Apr 19, 2004 14:57:03 GMT -5
Sorry but none of that wa splanned. On the Newlyweds show Jessica even talked about how she knew Sweetest Sinc shouldnt have been a 1st single but the label picked it and thats what they wanted. There was no "plan" for that. It's called acting. Anywho, record labels do this strategy w/ many artists and bands now, they release a so-so song for the first single, then release one of the best or best song as second single. |
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Post by Ragin on Apr 19, 2004 15:10:21 GMT -5
It's called acting. Anywho, record labels do this strategy w/ many artists and bands now, they release a so-so song for the first single, then release one of the best or best song as second single. I'm going to have to throw the penalty flag on this one. In what world would that EVER be a good strategy? The record labels want to sell records and want the hype to hit when it is released. A strong first single is the only way to guarantee any kind of sales with the record. With a proven artist I can see them experimenting a little more with that first single, but I wouldn't classify Jessica Simpson as a proven artist. |
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Post by pkwi on Apr 19, 2004 15:18:40 GMT -5
I'm going to have to throw the penalty flag on this one. In what world would that EVER be a good strategy? The record labels want to sell records and want the hype to hit when it is released. A strong first single is the only way to guarantee any kind of sales with the record. With a proven artist I can see them experimenting a little more with that first single, but I wouldn't classify Jessica Simpson as a proven artist. That's what I was implying, not with newer artists/bands who have just released their first or second album. Many established artists have done this, such as Britney w/ "Toxic" to follow up "MATM" or Christina w/ "Beautiful" to follow up "Dirrty". Obviously Columbia had enough faith in Jessica, or were just going through routine with what they assumed would be her final album w/ them before they dropped her. I agree w/ your last point though. |
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Post by M on Apr 19, 2004 15:22:33 GMT -5
That's what I was implying, not with newer artists/bands who have just released their first or second album. Many established artists have done this, such as Britney w/ "Toxic" to follow up "MATM" or Christina w/ "Beautiful" to follow up "Dirrty". Obviously Columbia had enough faith in Jessica, or were just going through routine with what they assumed would be her final album w/ them before they dropped her. I agree w/ your last point though. I think she got lucky. I'm guessing the record label was scrambling to find another single after "Sweetest Sin" bombed. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2004 15:36:12 GMT -5
Labels do not intentionally release crap first. LOL!  What you're seeing in a lot of these cases are upbeat generic comeback hype hits. They're not meant to be anything but insantly ear catching. Most of these blow up quick and fall just as quick and fast. |
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Post by pkwi on Apr 19, 2004 15:55:12 GMT -5
Labels do not intentionally release crap first. LOL! What's the excuse then for "Eat You Alive" or "F*ck It (I Don't Want You Back)" then? Lol. :) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2004 15:56:23 GMT -5
What's the excuse then for "Eat You Alive" or "F*ck It (I Don't Want You Back)" then? Lol. :) well in that case the crap is the artist |
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Post by Sean on Apr 19, 2004 18:21:32 GMT -5
Jessica got lucky that "With You" came out at the right time when Newlyweds started to have an impact. It wasn't some master strategy of hers or the record company... pure luck. They thought "Sweetest Sin" was the strongest single from the album and released it first. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
I think they should release "Sweetest Sin".... it's a good song and has the strongest potential out of the songs on the album. If TMBA can be a hit, so can SS. "Angels" is the worst song she has ever done and it should flop if released.
I agree with TCorey that "In This Skin" and "Be" (in that order) are 2 other potential single contenders.
I am surprised by how much I like "With You"... it is definitely one of my very favourite songs of the entire year so far. When it first came out I thought it was so mediocre and I couldn't believe it became such a big hit... but there's something about it that's just so infectious and likeable.
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Post by benmcd2000 on Apr 20, 2004 0:03:42 GMT -5
I love “Sweetest Sin.” Jessica sounds awesome on it, and the production is right on the money. That being said, I’ve always thought it was the wrong song for Jessica to record. Lyrically, it sounds like a song that you would sing while contemplating adultery and I doubt Jessica is thinking about cheating on Nick. Had this song been done by Britney Spears, then it would make much more sense.
The time is right for the label to release “Be.” It’s a perfect sounding record for the summer, and thematically, the perfect lyric for Jessica to sing. As much as I love “With You,” I think it the singles were reversed, “With You” would have flopped and “Sweetest Sin” would have been a hit. It all had to do with the timing of her rise to fame.
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Post by Pet Shop Boy on Apr 20, 2004 1:49:25 GMT -5
Had this song been done by Britney Spears, then it would make much more sense. Except Britney could NEVER handle the vocals this song requires to sound good.... |
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