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Post by Jaffas85 on May 14, 2004 0:51:11 GMT -5
What current Chart toppers do you think will reach "Diamond" certification or higher?
Usher - "Confessions"?
Norah Jones - "Come Away With Me"?
Norah Jones - "Feels Like Home"?
Evanescence - "Fallen"?
Alicia Keys - "Diary of Alicia Keys"?
Will any or all of these albums reach or surpass 10X Platinum?
What do you think?
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Post by chebingeo on May 14, 2004 1:05:18 GMT -5
Come Away With Me has the biggest chance of making the top 100 albums of all time list.
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Post by Bob on May 14, 2004 1:06:01 GMT -5
Usher, sadly.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on May 14, 2004 7:07:49 GMT -5
Usher, then Norah's first.
Outkast's is coming very soon.
I just don't think Ev is going to do that this year. It'll take a few years for them to do that.
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Post by msanoja on May 14, 2004 7:11:29 GMT -5
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Post by flarbygarby on May 14, 2004 10:51:19 GMT -5
I'd say FIRST Norah Jones (album 1 & 2) then *possibly* Usher lagging behind at a slow pace. Honestly, I think his album will fall quickly towards the middle/end of the year. Fallen, as marvelous as the album is and as miraculously consistent the sales have been, I just don't see cracking diamond certification. I'd say they'll get to 6X platinum, the most. People underestimate how extrememely difficult it is to get diamond certification nowadays. Even Eminem with all his popularity two years ago hasn't been able to crack it.
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Post by Ragin on May 14, 2004 12:14:20 GMT -5
Come Away With Me has already sold over 9 million copies it could go 10X any time now. Usher looks destined to, and I'd expect The Eminem Show will as well. I'm not sure about Usher, but he sure is selling like wildfire right now. I don't think Feels Like Home will, and Fallen will need another major hit if it is going to. I know the Eminem Show isn't current, but since it has sold a little over 9 right now I threw it in.
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Post by Matt4319 on May 14, 2004 17:49:53 GMT -5
I think "Come Away With Me" will be the only one.
Feels Like Home: around 7x
Confessions: 6x
Fallen: 6x
Diary: 5x
Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is already diamond because it's a double album.
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Post by strong4PMB! on May 14, 2004 18:45:12 GMT -5
I think "Come Away With Me" will be the only one. |
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Post by EvanJ on May 14, 2004 20:01:20 GMT -5
Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is already diamond because it's a double album. No it isn't. The doubling contributes to the certification. You don't double the certification yourself. "For boxed sets, and double albums with a running time that exceeds 100 minutes or more, the RIAA multiplies shipments by the number of discs and/or tapes." www.billboard.com/bb/charts/bb200.jspThe RIAA multiplies, not you. If Outkast was 18 times platinum (double the listed 9 times platinum the chart gives) I think there would be media attention to the fact that it would have been the highest certified album of the 2000s and the highest certified album since Shania's "Come On Over." |
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Post by mst3k on May 14, 2004 20:42:06 GMT -5
True.
Expect it to be certified 10x platinum in the near future, though (it was certified 9x nearly three months ago).
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Post by Rumors on May 14, 2004 21:05:50 GMT -5
I think "Come Away With Me" will be the only one. Feels Like Home: around 7x Confessions: 6x Fallen: 6x Diary: 5x Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is already diamond because it's a double album. Good estimates. I agree. |
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Post by Jaffas85 on May 15, 2004 0:16:10 GMT -5
How well do you all think that "Josh Groban - Closer" will end up selling?
It's been selling steadily since it's release a few months ago and I think is now up to 3.3 million sold in America.
P.S. The Outkast album has sold 4.8 million or so but is certified 9X Platinum because it's a double album.
I think they should scrap this rule of Double albums getting double certifications.
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Post by Matt4319 on May 15, 2004 0:41:31 GMT -5
No it isn't. The doubling contributes to the certification. You don't double the certification yourself. "For boxed sets, and double albums with a running time that exceeds 100 minutes or more, the RIAA multiplies shipments by the number of discs and/or tapes." www.billboard.com/bb/charts/bb200.jspThe RIAA multiplies, not you. If Outkast was 18 times platinum (double the listed 9 times platinum the chart gives) I think there would be media attention to the fact that it would have been the highest certified album of the 2000s and the highest certified album since Shania's "Come On Over." Sorry, that confused the heck out of me. The RIAA can say a double album has gone diamond (or whatever certification it is now), but I can't? |
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Post by mst3k on May 15, 2004 9:03:22 GMT -5
Sorry, that confused the heck out of me. The RIAA can say a double album has gone diamond (or whatever certification it is now), but I can't? LOL... translated, I think he meant that OutKast's album isn't diamond yet (you said that it was). It's only 9x platinum at the moment (for shipments of 4.5 million units). :) |
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Post by Matt4319 on May 15, 2004 9:31:36 GMT -5
LOL... translated, I think he meant that OutKast's album isn't diamond yet (you said that it was). It's only 9x platinum at the moment (for shipments of 4.5 million units). :) Either that, or he meant an album that has sold 10 million copies can't be called Diamond until the RIAA certifies it Diamond. [It's sold 4,814,000 (x2 = 9,628,000).] |
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Post by ExActLy99 on May 15, 2004 10:52:48 GMT -5
I don't think any of these albums will reach diamond status. Outkast will go diamond, but like Shania Twain, 2 discs are doubled.
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Post by Ragin on May 15, 2004 15:08:58 GMT -5
I don't think any of these albums will reach diamond status. Outkast will go diamond, but like Shania Twain, 2 discs are doubled. Wow, really? You don't think an album that has sold over 9 million copies and is still selling 20,000 a week is going to go diamond? |
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Post by EvanJ on May 15, 2004 18:38:07 GMT -5
LOL... translated, I think he meant that OutKast's album isn't diamond yet (you said that it was). It's only 9x platinum at the moment (for shipments of 4.5 million units). :) That's what I meant, but also you get certified by the RIAA. You sell 1,000,000 or 10,000,000, you don't sell platinum or diamond. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 15, 2004 20:29:35 GMT -5
Its selling 2 albums essentially. So...why not?
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Post by Bob on May 15, 2004 20:36:40 GMT -5
Its selling 2 albums essentially. So...why not? b/c only 5 million people bought it |
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Post by Ragin on May 16, 2004 6:33:21 GMT -5
Its selling 2 albums essentially. So...why not? And in the case of Outkast you are buying both too. |
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Post by Ragin on May 16, 2004 6:34:43 GMT -5
b/c only 5 million people bought it So what? Probably only 300,000 people bought Clay Aiken's album, but them buying it 7 times each still pushes it over 2 million. AS mentioned above with Outkast, you are also paying for both albums, so people are shelling out more money for it. |
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