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Post by pen on Jan 31, 2006 14:51:00 GMT -5
New single from Hypnotize. Goes for adds on the 20th of February. I'm not really happy with this choice as I thought they would go with something like Tentative or Soldier Side instead of the most obvious single, but then again I guess it was too obvious not to pass up.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Feb 1, 2006 1:25:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I kinda figured they'd go with this since it was getting the most play out of any of the album tracks. I don't really like this song at all, and I was hoping for "Soldier Side", but oh well.
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Post by Rob64 on Feb 1, 2006 8:24:05 GMT -5
:( This is the only song that I don't like on the album. :( It's so boring.
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Post by JeffB on Feb 1, 2006 12:38:47 GMT -5
:( This is the only song that I don't like on the album. :( It's so boring. Same here, i skip it each time i listen the album. Soldier Side would be a better choice if they wanted a slow song for the single.
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Post by Rob64 on Feb 1, 2006 13:29:37 GMT -5
"Holy Mountains" is so much better though! That should be the next single. "Lonely Day" is too plain and ordinary for them.
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Post by crash46 on Feb 2, 2006 20:49:28 GMT -5
There was only one song off either album that I had hoped would not be released. And of course, "Lonely Day" is the one. I don't mind the song being on the album; I'll even say the solo is pretty nicely done. It's just not cut out for the radio, and that's all there is to it.
We've had to wait way too long for a radio single to be a song that slams. If they go back and do "Lost In Hollywood" like the rumors say they will, that wait will most likely be extended into years. I am not down with that.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 2, 2006 21:38:09 GMT -5
"Tentative" should have been the album's second single in my opinion.
System Of A Down should take advantage of the fact they're a rather avant-garde alternative band that manages to make consecutive #1 album debuts with six-figure sales, and show the world all their various sides. "Lonely Day" is no help in achieving that feat.
If they release a third single from "Mesmerize", I think it ought to be "Violent Pornography" or "Revenga".
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 3, 2006 19:18:20 GMT -5
We've had to wait way too long for a radio single to be a song that slams. If they go back and do "Lost In Hollywood" like the rumors say they will, that wait will most likely be extended into years. I am not down with that.
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Post by reception on Feb 9, 2006 21:44:50 GMT -5
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Feb 10, 2006 16:10:40 GMT -5
I have noticed that each single from the Mezmerize/Hypnotize era seems to be mellower than the last, and "Lost In Hollywood" would continue that pattern. Which I'm not too happy about, as there are plenty of songs that are more intense but still radio-friendly enough.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Feb 10, 2006 23:31:37 GMT -5
Wow..I'm disappointed. It's really not like they'll lose any credibility with this one, considering they will likely never have a pop crossover unless they DRAMATICALLY alter their image. It is by far the poppiest single they've ever released though.
Horrible single choice, but it will do fairly well and I'm sure everyone is used to the hard SOAD by now. (Don't forget about "Cigaro", which in my opinion was even harder than "B.Y.O.B.")
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Post by American Idiot on Feb 16, 2006 1:20:21 GMT -5
I agree that this is a very poor choice by the band for making this a single. I don't dislike the song, but I just don't think has the catchiness and craziness that most SOAD singles have had, and there are some much better choices on Hypnotize. If it was up to me, I guess I would have chosen Attack, since that song is just plain freaking insane.
After only hearing this song on the radio a few times over the past week, I think I'm already in the beginning stages of getting tired of it. I expect it to still do amazingly well because well its SOAD, and I'm sure within a month from now I'll be changing the station when it comes on while its the most played song on the charts.
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Post by pen on Feb 16, 2006 6:36:44 GMT -5
Daron said they decided to make it a single because "so many people ask us about it and it is really straightforward, it's almost like made to be a single." Whatever Daron, whatever happened to not doing what people expect? Feh.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Feb 18, 2006 15:46:31 GMT -5
Why don't they just release this straight to pop if they are so intent upon making this a single?
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Post by Rob64 on Feb 18, 2006 15:56:17 GMT -5
NO. I don't want System of a Down releasing songs to pop. Seriously. That would suck.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Feb 19, 2006 17:00:11 GMT -5
;) I was only kidding, of course, but I was trying to point out what a weak weak weak single choice this is.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 19, 2006 18:13:36 GMT -5
NO. I don't want System of a Down releasing songs to pop. Seriously. That would suck. Even Frank Zappa released songs to Pop ("Valley Girl" became a huge hit for him) and he is by far a quintessential name in avant-garde songwriting. I won't hate System of a Down if they choose to release a song there, I just hope when they do it's representative of how creative and superior they are to 99% of other metal bands. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by jdmasta289 on Feb 23, 2006 21:37:39 GMT -5
Upon about 10 listens, I have concluded that it really is sad to see SOAD stoop to this level. They will probably pull out of it, but I could seriously see this on a pop station. It's Daron Malakian, whose voice is probably too "alternative" for that format, but come on. I can't believe who I thought to be a "bad-ass" metal band could do something like this. It's so bland, maybe Barbra Streisand could do a cover.
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Post by Chato on Feb 25, 2006 6:21:03 GMT -5
Come on guys , this isn't that bad . The guitar soloing sounds like something you could hear from a european melodic metal band . This song is further proof for me that SOAD is one of the most innovative and talented bands in the mainstream rock scene these days.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 26, 2006 1:30:39 GMT -5
I've always liked it just fine and consider it one of the best 5 tracks on Hypnotize.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Feb 26, 2006 15:58:01 GMT -5
Come on guys , this isn't that bad . The guitar soloing sounds like something you could hear from a european melodic metal band . This song is further proof for me that SOAD is one of the most innovative and talented bands in the mainstream rock scene these days. It's not bad musically, but the lyrics and the overall repetitiveness of the song just make me cringe.
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Post by tortuga on Mar 17, 2006 1:06:53 GMT -5
Ooh, I'm so depressed.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Mar 22, 2006 19:09:58 GMT -5
This may be hyperbole, considering I don't believe I've never heard a SOAD song written by Daron Malakian (as this one is)...But I honestly believe they should never, ever let Malakian write another song in his life. He was on Hard Drive about five weeks ago, talking about how he's taken time to write personal material, and this song for SOAD. The lyrics are downright terrible. My problem with the writing goes hand-in-hand with complaints people make about the writing on Reznor's new album. In this case, it's just so horribly contrived and forced that it takes away from a rather average song and makes it completely bad. I mean "the most loneliest day of my life"???? "Such a lonely day...Should be banned"??? Come on, guys. And where the hell is Serj? His cryptic voice is what makes this band. Daron just sounds forced and doesn't comply with the music one bit. I will say Daron is a good back-up singer, but please. Stick to backing up Serj, dude. I could envision listening to this between Jessica Simpson & 50 Cent on my local pop station, I really could. I mean, it's hard to believe (after listening to "Toxicity" and "Sugar" twice each), a band like this could stoop to this level, at least coming after a light-rock single (by their standards), and a more melodic previous single ("Question"). And... Haha
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Post by pen on Mar 22, 2006 23:04:18 GMT -5
To be fair, I read the other band members convinced him to put this song on the album. He didn't want to initially. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Daron apparently writes the majority of SOAD material along with Serj so I don't doubt that he has the ability to write songs, and I personally really like the more vocal role he's taking in SOAD. I think Serj and Daron's voices mesh really well together and I think Daron has every right to take center stage every once in a while. Lost In Hollywood comes to mind as a good Daron track. Feel free to disagree but that's what I think.
And I don't think Lonely Day is such a bad song either. The lyrics are pretty simplistic, but I don't think they're as offensively juvenile as people make them out to be. Of course, then we're getting on the subject of expectations and what people want out of System, so I have to agree that it is a major departure from usual System fare both musically and lyrically, and people who dislike the song based on that are well within their right. There are better songs. It is a radio-made single and it is the emoest that System has ever been, and it is disappointing that it's phasing out songs like Soldier Side and Tentative for media attention. It does also go against what System said about picking songs against normal standards.
But I mean, come on, let's be honest with ourselves. Haven't we all had a lonely day? A lonely day that we can't stand? Should be banned? That we'll never miss? Shouldn't exist? Let's be real, here.
Yes, that was a joke.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 23, 2006 1:10:28 GMT -5
I don't think it's that big of a deal. Daron apparently writes the majority of SOAD material along with Serj so I don't doubt that he has the ability to write songs, and I personally really like the more vocal role he's taking in SOAD. I think Serj and Daron's voices mesh really well together and I think Daron has every right to take center stage every once in a while. And I don't think Lonely Day is such a bad song either. The lyrics are pretty simplistic, but I don't think they're as offensively juvenile as people make them out to be. I agree with all of this. I add that the guitar solo is amazing and really sets this song apart from all the other milder rock fare that crosses over. As for musical input, as Daron's profile has increased over the course of SOAD's career, so have his contributions to the songs. Off the first record, he wrote the music for 9 of the songs, co-writing the other 4. And he co-wrote the lyrics for "CUBErt." Off the second record, he wrote the music for 10 of the 14 songs, co-writing 3. (Serj wrote "Shimmy" all by himself.) This time he co-wrote the lyrics for half of them, including "Chop Suey!" and "Aerials." ( Steal This Album's credits are only available online, and I don't have the necessary software to access them.) On Mezmerize, Daron wrote the music for all 10 songs, except for a co-writing credit on "Question!" and helped write lyrics for every song except "Question!" again. In fact, he wrote all the lyrics for "Radio/Video," "Violent Pornography," and "Old School Hollywood." On Hypnotize, Daron wrote the music for 9 of its 12 tracks, co-writing the other 3. He wrote lyrics for 11 of the songs (Serj handled "Vicinity of Obscenity"), including "Kill Rock 'n' Roll," "She's Like Heroin," "Lonely Day" of course, and "Soldier Side" all by himself. Without Daron, there would be no System of a Down.
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Post by tortuga on Mar 23, 2006 15:26:17 GMT -5
The guitar solo is the only redeeming aspect of this song. I'm with JD here, the lyrics are really bad. It sounds like something Simple Plan would write.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 23, 2006 15:32:07 GMT -5
This song is ok if you ignore the lyrics. But then the guy with the really nasally voice comes in. Can't they do one single without him?
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Post by jdmasta289 on Mar 24, 2006 1:10:22 GMT -5
This song is ok if you ignore the lyrics. But then the guy with the really nasally voice comes in. Can't they do one single without him? See? Point well taken.
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Post by Rob64 on Mar 24, 2006 17:30:36 GMT -5
What's wrong with you people? I don't know why everybody is complaining about the lyrics. System of a Down fans EXPECT these kinds of lyrics.
What about the song "Chic'N Stu" from "Steal This Album"? The friggin song is about PIZZA! But I wouldnt' have it any other way. This is part of why I love this band.
Wanna split the pie? Pizza pizza pie, every minute, every hour, bye bye bye Pepperoni and green peppers, mushrooms, olives, chives
Or what about the song "Bounce" from "Toxicity"?
I brought my pogo stick just to show her a trick she had so many friends Gliding through many hands Jump pogo.....Bounce pogo Down pogo, up pogo
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Post by crash46 on Mar 25, 2006 6:06:01 GMT -5
The lyrics to those songs, as well as countless others (ie. "Cigaro") are metaphors. If you take those lyrics at face value, then of course they're going to sound dumb (unless you like them that way, which is okay). And nearly every 'hater' of SOAD tries to use those face value lyrics to their advantage to try to prove their point, and it's funny because they have no idea how ignorant they're being.
I don't think "Lonely Day" is comparable to those, however. And I see nothing wrong with the song in itself. It's just that SOAD broke through with "Chop Suey!", and the majority of their tracks are similar in neckbreakabilty. Except that the singles have all been exceptions to that, as of late, and therein lies the problem.
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