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Post by pen on Jun 21, 2006 23:26:08 GMT -5
This goes for adds on July 24th. Pilot Speed is apparently the new name of a band called Pilate, who released a new album called Sell Control For Life's Speed in Canada earlier this year. I think what is happening is that Wind-Up signed the band and is releasing the album over here.
Listening to this song, they sound a lot in the same vein as Wind-Up's recent acquisitions like The Exit, People In Planes, and Stefy.
I don't know why Wind-Up is doing this though. They're starting to promote a new band when they have a lot of bands already on their label that are just twiddling their thumbs waiting for Wind-Up to give them a go-ahead. That's why Alter Bridge and Drowning Pool left, because Wind-Up doesn't know shit.
Meanwhile, Megan McCauley, Ben Moody, Eric Durrance, and Omnisoul have been waiting to release their albums for a year now, and Strata, Atomship, Submersed, Finger Eleven, and 12 Stones are getting the short end of the stick. Wind-Up blows a big fat one. Here's hoping all their acts wise up and join Rock Ridge or DRT.
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Post by allnightmarelong on Jun 21, 2006 23:42:36 GMT -5
haha they renamed the band? I've disliked this band ever since they released "Into Your Hideout" (here in Canada) back in 2003. they're just really boring. I support most Canadian bands but these guys... no.
dont be surprised if these guys are dumped after one album. thats just Wind-Up's way. I'm really on edge for new Finger Eleven and 12 Stones (my fav band). I'm not impressed at all.
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Post by pen on Jun 22, 2006 9:29:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't say I'm impressed in any way, but I thought the song was decent enough. Now I have the album so I'll listen to that and see if my opinion changes.
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Post by crash46 on Jun 22, 2006 17:15:51 GMT -5
"Barely Listening" is a f***ing smooth, awesome track. "Into Your Hideout" was pretty good too. Although if a critic were to claim that they just ride the wave of anything trendy from the States and carry it over the border where it'll get guaranteed airplay in Canada, I couldn't argue.
And I don't know what the deal is with the name change. I don't know anyone who knows anything about this band but I could guess it's one of those moves to get people to pronounce the name right instead of like the yoga videos, whatever the hell those things are. If that's the case, I won't argue that either. I don't want my name confused with such nonsense.
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Post by pen on Jun 22, 2006 19:04:30 GMT -5
I wonder if it has to do with the Pontius Pilate connection. Ridiculous but I wouldn't put it past Wind-Up.
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Post by winner2000 on Jun 23, 2006 6:43:55 GMT -5
Their album was a pretty big dud here in Canada, so I doubt they'll be able to do much in the states. The song itself is pretty good IMO, but not GREAT.
As for the name, Pilot Speed sounds incredibly lame...
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Post by pen on Jul 3, 2006 11:43:52 GMT -5
Pilate made a post about the reasoning behind the name change. I figured it was something like this.
BTW, it seems the US album release is called Into The West. I'm not sure why, but "Into The West" is a song on Sell Control For Life's Speed. It could be that they're putting some new or old tracks on the U.S. release and thus the name change, but who knows why Wind-Up does anything anymore.
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Just some words regarding our name change. I really feel you all deserve a more detailed explanation. As mentioned in the note on our website, the impetus for the name change is purely legal in nature. Given the litigious nature of the United States we could not afford to retain Pilate as a band name. In the event that a company with a similarily named brand came after us, we as Pilate could be embroiled in a legal battle that could potentially cost the band hundreds of thousands of dollars. As you might rightly assume, this is money we do not have. Trademark lawyers in the US looked into companies that had similar names (similar spelling and/or phoenetics), and advised us that in keeping the name Pilate, we would be very vulnerable to such lawsuits.
This was indeed an unfortunate development, but one we would have undoubtedly eventually run into in the US. With this in mind we sought to change the band name. We wanted to keep Pilot (pilate) in some form just to make the transition easier. As much as we are all in many ways attached to the name Pilate, for us to venture outside of our own country the change was imperative. I also understand everyone's feelings toward Pilot Speed, any change as large as this is sure to be met with mixed emotions... In the end however we may now be able to avoid jokes about stomach excercises, as well as the common pronounciation error, Pee-lah-tee...
The change was not meant to alienate or disappoint those of you who have to this point been our biggest supporters. I could not in words state the importance of your support and passion thus far, and am saddened by the thought that this change makes any of you feel less involved in the fortunes of this band.
We ARE the same band, and rely on the small percentage of you who continue to spread the word. Moreover, the up-coming name transition renders your support all the more crucial.
In the end the decision to change names was made because we wanted to be able to continue to make music, not just at home in Canada but around the world. I hope this clarifies things for many of you. That was my intent.
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Post by pen on Jul 3, 2006 12:26:32 GMT -5
BTW, hugwhore, the Pilate forum apparently wants to have a word with you.
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Post by allnightmarelong on Jul 3, 2006 16:50:48 GMT -5
wheres the pilate forum?
do they wanna meet up at the monkey bars after school to beat me up?
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Post by pen on Jul 3, 2006 20:05:35 GMT -5
wheres the pilate forum? do they wanna meet up at the monkey bars after school to beat me up? Nah, probably just meet in the bathroom to have a good cry and make out. |
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Post by allnightmarelong on Jul 5, 2006 18:20:48 GMT -5
lol
where are you lookin? I cant find the fourm you're refering too.
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Post by pen on Jul 5, 2006 20:59:24 GMT -5
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Post by Pipa on Jul 5, 2006 22:05:59 GMT -5
How amusing.
Pilate is one of the better U2 ripoffs.
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Post by allnightmarelong on Jul 5, 2006 22:37:48 GMT -5
HAHAHA! that was awesome. well I hope the guy that wants to kick my ass reads this, Pilate is the worst Canadian band in 5 years!!!
I stand by what I said, they'll be dropped after one album.
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Post by pen on Jul 5, 2006 23:18:41 GMT -5
Well, if they're dropped, it'll be because Wind-Up is run by dicks.
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Post by reception on Aug 3, 2006 18:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by [upsilon]™ on Sept 24, 2006 18:47:32 GMT -5
Recently iTune's Single of the Week. I recently downloaded it and it's great.
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Post by fatalthirteen on Sept 26, 2006 20:33:33 GMT -5
Is this song still being played? Please, please, PLEASE fade into oblivion!
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Post by pen on Sept 26, 2006 23:09:43 GMT -5
Is this song still being played? Please, please, PLEASE fade into oblivion! Wow, what a dick you are. |
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Post by fatalthirteen on Sept 27, 2006 22:37:36 GMT -5
Why do you know these guys personally or something?!
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Post by pen on Sept 27, 2006 22:59:08 GMT -5
Why do you know these guys personally or something?! Maybe I do. You don't know. But whether I know them or not, I know it's retarded to wish for a band's failure. You're only asking for karma to come kick you in the ass. By the way, no I don't know them. |
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Post by fatalthirteen on Sept 27, 2006 23:31:23 GMT -5
I wasn't serious...just would've expected the bitching from a family member or friend than from a fan  . And this is a music opinion board is it not? My opinion is that I hate this band and it's just as valid as yours when and if you want to gush over them. They will be dropped by windup and everything will be happy and good eventually  |
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Post by pen on Sept 28, 2006 0:46:15 GMT -5
I wasn't serious...just would've expected the b**ching from a family member or friend than from a fan . And this is a music opinion board is it not? My opinion is that I hate this band and it's just as valid as yours when and if you want to gush over them. They will be dropped by windup and everything will be happy and good eventually You're allowed to have an opinion just as I am, that's true, but that still doesn't make you any less of a dick. How would them being dropped by Wind-Up, being denied the chance to live doing what they love, possibly benefit you in any way that isn't totally selfish and inconsiderate? Because you don't want to hear them on your radio station anymore? Tough shit, they have as much right to be there for their listeners as anything you like. You're not special. For example, I don't like Insane Clown Posse, but I would never wish for them to become poor or stop making music, because I understand that people like them and they're only trying to live off of what they love doing. There is nothing about the music I listen to that makes it any better or worse than what those ICP fans are listening to, other than my own personal opinion, and who the hell am I to will failure on anyone? Shit, I didn't even wish failure upon that spammer's band, and I think they're totally warped. And unlike you, I wouldn't expect this mindset of mine from only family members or even just fans, but from anyone with any common sense, decency, or respect for hard-working individuals with a dream that are making people happy. What you're doing, that I call bitching, and it's disgusting that someone else's failure would bring you joy in life. |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 28, 2006 8:53:22 GMT -5
For example, I don't like Insane Clown Posse, but I would never wish for them to become poor or stop making music, because I understand that people like them and they're only trying to live off of what they love doing. There is nothing about the music I listen to that makes it any better or worse than what those ICP fans are listening to, other than my own personal opinion, and who the hell am I to will failure on anyone? s**t, I didn't even wish failure upon that spammer's band, and I think they're totally warped.
You know, you're the first person I know to explain that to someone else. I tried a few times but I kinda gave up since it didn't seem like anybody was listening.
Now, I'll wish some people would go away (like Jessica Simpson and Shawn Desman) but it's not fair for me to wish failure upon singers. I'll wish *more* success on the ones I like but not failure. ...unless I personally think the person(s) deserves it.... |
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Post by pen on Sept 28, 2006 11:10:43 GMT -5
I don't think anyone deserves failure. I think everyone has their place in the world and deserves a chance to succeed, especially if what they're doing is to the benefit of other people. Those people may not be me, but why should they have to be? The world doesn't revolve around me, nor should it. See, all this hate for opposing states of mind is why the world is in the sorry state it is today. Where's the love, man? Where is the love?
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Post by crash46 on Sept 28, 2006 11:42:51 GMT -5
I think people like Jessica Simpson have brought the collective IQ of Americans down by maybe 2 or 3 whole points, and since the end result is her laughing all the way to the bank because of it, I think her failure would be her karma biting her in the ass. Therefore I throw parties in celebration of her flop singles and unanimously awful film reviews.
But any artist showing even a hint of sincerity...yeah I would feel kind of bad wishing for their failure.
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Post by pen on Sept 28, 2006 12:14:23 GMT -5
Hm. That is actually not a bad counterargument. I like your style, good sir.
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Post by fatalthirteen on Sept 29, 2006 14:26:53 GMT -5
I wasn't serious...just would've expected the b**ching from a family member or friend than from a fan . And this is a music opinion board is it not? My opinion is that I hate this band and it's just as valid as yours when and if you want to gush over them. They will be dropped by windup and everything will be happy and good eventually You're allowed to have an opinion just as I am, that's true, but that still doesn't make you any less of a dick. How would them being dropped by Wind-Up, being denied the chance to live doing what they love, possibly benefit you in any way that isn't totally selfish and inconsiderate? Because you don't want to hear them on your radio station anymore? Tough s**t, they have as much right to be there for their listeners as anything you like. You're not special. For example, I don't like Insane Clown Posse, but I would never wish for them to become poor or stop making music, because I understand that people like them and they're only trying to live off of what they love doing. There is nothing about the music I listen to that makes it any better or worse than what those ICP fans are listening to, other than my own personal opinion, and who the hell am I to will failure on anyone? s**t, I didn't even wish failure upon that spammer's band, and I think they're totally warped. And unlike you, I wouldn't expect this mindset of mine from only family members or even just fans, but from anyone with any common sense, decency, or respect for hard-working individuals with a dream that are making people happy. What you're doing, that I call b**ching, and it's disgusting that someone else's failure would bring you joy in life. I tried to keep my replies to you somewhat lighthearted but you really have a stick far up your ass about this don't you!! Jeez, it was a comment made without much thought or care and it doesn't make me a dick to wish that artists who are making music I don't like need not get shoved down my throat by every media available. There are thousands and thousands of artists with record deals but only a tiny percentage of them are going to be popular and enjoy success and the rest are going to FAIL-one band's success takes up airplay that would otherwise be given to another band. So I'm not necessarily wishing failure on Pilot Speed or any other band I don't like, but rather I'm wishing success on other bands that may otherwise not get played! Now that's all done, it's too bad you think you're as fair a person as you claim you are because you wish the music industry was a happy place where you and your sh**ty artists could frolic in a meadow filled with bunnies and flowers-- hate to break it to you but that's not a case. And don't call me a dick because your being you're being one in your responses. I may be a dick when I comment on bands I don't like but you're a hypocrite. This is the last post I'll make replying to your bitchy comments in this or any other thread where I state a negative opinion about a band. You really just need to get over yourself. |
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Post by allnightmarelong on Sept 29, 2006 18:04:44 GMT -5
well I hope this band goes away. call it failing if you'd like, I dont really care. there are plenty of other things for them to do in this world. Im not saying I want them to become poor and live on the street. for some reason, people automatically think if you want a band to fail, you want them to be poor. wtf they can get another job somewhere else. a failing band isnt the end of the world for these guys. go get an education and get a 9-5 job like anyone else.
I just avoid this song and bands I dislike... but if they disappeared from the airwaves, I'd be happy!
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Post by pen on Sept 30, 2006 10:56:30 GMT -5
I tried to keep my replies to you somewhat lighthearted Actually, I took your tone as rather flippant and immature (and I still do), but that's the way the net works. but you really have a stick far up your ass about this don't you!! You bet. Jeez, it was a comment made without much thought or care Obviously. and it doesn't make me a dick to wish that artists who are making music I don't like need not get shoved down my throat by every media available. Sure it does. I don't know if things are different where you are, but over here I watch television, visit countless music websites, give any band that comes down the pike a fair shot, and I've never felt that anyone was shoving anything down my throat. Now I don't listen to the radio, but you know, when you listen to the radio, you're not going to only hear what you like because there are other listeners too, and if you don't like what they like and they're in greater numbers, well then that's the chance you take. The radio is not exclusive nor should it be. So it seems to me that the only person shoving anything down your throat is yourself. There are thousands and thousands of artists with record deals but only a tiny percentage of them are going to be popular and enjoy success and the rest are going to FAIL-one band's success takes up airplay that would otherwise be given to another band. So I'm not necessarily wishing failure on Pilot Speed or any other band I don't like, but rather I'm wishing success on other bands that may otherwise not get played! This is utter bullshit. There is no evidence that if a band fell off of the radar that another band would suddenly rise up in their place. For example, if Hinder suddenly went off of radio, sure, other artists would see an increase in their plays to fill the void, but no single artist would suddenly see a massive improvement in their popularity. If Hinder ever faded away, I'm not holding my breath for Psychostick to get attention, is what I'm saying. It just won't happen. A band's popularity does have something to do with the current musical climate, sure, but it will always have far more to do with the band themselves and their target audience. Just look at how many bands have managed to be successful without radio play. The Mars Volta is a great example, and yes they have the legacy of At The Drive-In behind them, but ATDI wasn't a very mainstream band either, and they certainly didn't pull in the numbers that Mars Volta are. Meanwhile, Sugarcult is a very mainstream band and they're not doing shit. You can't make any sort of claim that a band's popularity will affect another band's popularity in turn. It just doesn't work out. It's illogical. Now that's all done, it's too bad you think you're as fair a person as you claim you are because you wish the music industry was a happy place where you and your sh**ty artists could frolic in a meadow filled with bunnies and flowers-- hate to break it to you but that's not a case. And don't call me a dick because your being you're being one in your responses. I may be a dick when I comment on bands I don't like but you're a hypocrite. See, I may have called you a dick, but I think I've represented my argument very well in a serious and careful fashion. Instead, you're calling me a hypocrite based on ludicrous comments that I'm "frolicing in a meadow with bunnies and flowers". I am doing no such thing, I'll tell you that. I'm getting ready to take the highway to work for eight hours, and there will be no bunnies, no flowers, and certainly no frolicing. BTW, how is it being a hypocrite to want people to be fair and reasonable and respectful of others? Oh wait, I forgot what planet I'm on. This is the last post I'll make replying to your b**chy comments in this or any other thread where I state a negative opinion about a band. You really just need to get over yourself. need to get over yourself. This whole thing is based on the fact that you're being selfish and think that's justified. |
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