Mega248
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Post by Mega248 on Oct 26, 2003 23:40:12 GMT -5
How the hell is "In Da Club" still sitting comfortably at #4 recurrent? Even the extremely slow dropping "Bring Me To Life" looks ready to drop below it in a week or two. "When I'm Gone" went recurrent around the same time and is now 750 spins below it. Not even "Hanging By A Moment" stayed at the top of the recurrent list for this long.
"Ignition"'s been up there for quite a while too.
Why is "Lose Yourself" the only Eminem song that got much recurrent play?
I'm surprised "Picture" isn't sticking around longer.
Looks like "Breathe" is already below "Hit 'Em Up Style".
I'm mad that "Are You Happy Now" isn't having a longer recurrent life.
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Post by j on Oct 26, 2003 23:54:32 GMT -5
In Da Club has stabilized at 1800 spins for over a month now, I think. Not too shabby for a rap song!
I mentioned before that "When I'm Gone" is receiving very little recurrent airplay compared to other Year-End #1s that are rock songs.
R Kelly is getting 100 more spins per week than Justin Timberlake. The two songs have been neck-to-neck since forever. I don't think he can make up the mere 1000 spin difference between Rock Your Body and Ignition by the end of November tho.
Lose Yourself is getting a lot of airplay because it's a classic. Yes, a classic.
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Post by ted11804 on Oct 27, 2003 15:41:02 GMT -5
Females tend to have trouble getting recurrent airplay. Just look at "Miss Independent!" I'm not against females, but it's just a fact. Bands and rappers don't usually fall as fast. Look at "Low". Over -800 already!
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Post by j on Oct 27, 2003 15:43:54 GMT -5
Females tend to have trouble getting recurrent airplay. Tell that to Mary J Blige's Family Affair. I think it just really depends on the song. Genre too. Rock songs tend to get a lot more recurrent airplay, and they're mostly by male bands. I think if you include both the gender variable and genre variable into the same statistical model, the gender variable will come out highly insignificant, whereas if you include only gender, it will look statistically significant, but that's only because there's a high correlation between gender and genre. |
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Post by irice22 on Oct 27, 2003 15:45:49 GMT -5
I found it that top five light rock hits made by bands or a new artist fall the slowest and get the most recurrent play. Take "Unwell" and "A Thousand Miles" for example.
I think rappers generally fall pretty fast, unless they are known pretty well like Eminem or 50 Cent.
Rock falls kind of slowly too usually.
Pop songs done by well known artists tend to rise fast and fall fast.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 27, 2003 17:07:05 GMT -5
"In Da Club" is getting lots of recurrent play because while extremely annoying, it is also extremely catchy and infectious. It is the rap anthem of 2003.
Same with "Lose Yourself". It's the first rap song ever to win an Oscar!
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Noah Eaton
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Oct 27, 2003 18:14:59 GMT -5
Sorry for sounding dumb, but what makes a song "recurrent"?
Thanks
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Post by irice22 on Oct 27, 2003 18:16:57 GMT -5
For the pop chart the rule is 20 weeks on the Top 50 chart. If the song is still in the Top 20 on its 21st, 22nd, 23rd, etc. week it will not me removed.
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Oct 27, 2003 19:39:54 GMT -5
So the same thing as on the Hot 100, if a song has been on for 20 weeks or more, and drops below #50, it is automatically off the chart
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Post by mst3k on Oct 27, 2003 21:09:38 GMT -5
So the same thing as on the Hot 100, if a song has been on for 20 weeks or more, and drops below #50, it is automatically off the chart Bingo! :) |
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Oct 27, 2003 22:45:55 GMT -5
^ Thank U!
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Post by arebomb on Oct 28, 2003 0:59:10 GMT -5
So the same thing as on the Hot 100, if a song has been on for 20 weeks or more, and drops below #50, it is automatically off the chart Not exactly. I thought it was if you dropped below #20 after your 20th week on the CHR/Pop charts you were gone.... |
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Post by Keith3000 on Oct 28, 2003 1:11:35 GMT -5
On the CHR/Pop chart, a song goes recurrent (is taken off the chart) if it has spent more than 20 weeks on the chart and drops below #20. On the Hot 100 it's the same thing, except the song has to drop below #50.
Considering this year's recurrents, yeah, Justin and RKelly have been basically back-to-back ever since they were both at the top spot. Chances are they'll be back-to-back in the year-end chart as well!
"When I'm Gone" is definitely not as big a hit as previous year'end #1's by Nickelback, Lifehouse or Vertical Horizon in terms of recurrent spins. 50 Cent and Eminem's recurrent spins will help their songs on the year-end chart as well.
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Post by tico on Oct 28, 2003 1:25:03 GMT -5
I found it that top five light rock hits made by bands or a new artist fall the slowest and get the most recurrent play. Take "Unwell" and "A Thousand Miles" for example. I think rappers generally fall pretty fast, unless they are known pretty well like Eminem or 50 Cent. Rock falls kind of slowly too usually. Pop songs done by well known artists tend to rise fast and fall fast. I think you might be on to something. Now that I think about it, you're right. Looking at the 2000s, the first hit singles for Vertical Horizon, 3 Doors Down, Lifehouse and Nickelback all were big hits and had a considerable amount of recurrent play and their follow-ups had less-than-stellar chart performances. Rap and pop songs have a tendency to have a higher burnout factor, at least in my opinion. |
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Post by irice22 on Oct 28, 2003 2:13:06 GMT -5
Cool, I wasn't expecting anyone to agree with me.
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Post by tico on Oct 28, 2003 2:28:54 GMT -5
Looking at the list of artists I just mentioned, the reason I believe pop/rock songs tend to last longer not just because it tests very well with adult audiences, but the songs are usally about subjects people can relate to and having a good melody doesn't hurt either. I'd bet most people who've been dumped by a lover can relate to "Everything You Want". "When I'm Gone" became the unofficial anthem of the recent Iraq war since many
Americans know someone who served or is serving in the military, even if they didn't serve in Iraq.
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Post by j on Oct 28, 2003 10:17:48 GMT -5
Well - regarding 3 Doors Down (Kryptonite) and Nickelback, theeir follow-ups were just terrible songs to begin with. For Lifehouse, coming from a rock band, the song was really too slow for Pop radio to really do well on the charts. Vertical Horizon released a great song as a second single, and it went all the way to #12. Maybe you could argue that recurrent airplay for the first single stopped it from reaching the Top 10, but #12 is pretty good.
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Post by BlahBlahBlah on Oct 28, 2003 20:11:56 GMT -5
Vertical Horizon released a great song as a second single, and it went all the way to #12.
I thought "You're A God" was a horrible song and how it even reached Top 10 was due to "Everything You Want." But then, I never understood the appeal of "Everything You Want" anyway. |
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Post by j on Oct 29, 2003 0:19:18 GMT -5
#10.
I thought "You're A God" was a horrible song and how it even reached Top 10 was due to "Everything You Want." But then, I never understood the appeal of "Everything You Want" anyway. It was #12 on Rick Dees, which was what I remembered. When a second single peaks outside the Top 10, I suppose it's hard to conclude whether it got hit by recurrentitis or whether it got to where it did only because of the success of the first single. You think it's the latter in the case of "You're A God", I think it's the former. |
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Post by FreakyFlyBry on Oct 29, 2003 0:31:24 GMT -5
It was #12 on Rick Dees, which was what I remembered. I believe the #12 peak was from AT40, they weren't using R&R at the time, because I remember it made top 10 on Rick Dees. |
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Post by thisbeautifulmess on Nov 1, 2003 1:02:50 GMT -5
[quote author=tico "When I'm Gone" became the unofficial anthem of the recent Iraq war since many
Americans know someone who served or is serving in the military, even if they didn't serve in Iraq. [/quote]
I think it's sad that such a good song has been reduced to being rememberd as a "fad song".
And all 4 singles off Vertical Horizon's first CD were great songs!
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Post by jond7699 on Nov 1, 2003 1:25:00 GMT -5
Musically I think You're A God is better than EYW. I think that radio stations play recurrents too much nowadays. It seems not an hour goes by without hearing some annoyingly overplayed song when refreshing new music is being ignored
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