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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 25, 2005 19:25:23 GMT -5
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Several threads are being closed and I see really no fighting or anything in them-so Im wondering if we have new rules or guidelines to follow? Ive been gone off and on since summer began and I figure I might have missed the notice that certain topics are no longer allowed on the boards....
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2005 19:32:23 GMT -5
Someone here is helping us root out some double standards and I told him we'd love to hear his input. He seems to be good at this so we'll be dealing with any topics that seem created just to start arguments.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on May 25, 2005 22:13:20 GMT -5
Certain topics have pertained to inappropriate subject matter for a forum that is open to people of almost all ages.
And of course, the staff did damage control. And some topics have been repeats of older ones.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 26, 2005 13:28:32 GMT -5
Someone here is helping us root out some double standards and I told him we'd love to hear his input. He seems to be good at this so we'll be dealing with any topics that seem created just to start arguments. So which topics are not allowed at all anymore? I can guess a few (no more over rated songs/albums/artists topics, no more which songs/artists/cds do you dislike...) Are there any other topics that are not longer allowed by the boards? |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2005 14:00:37 GMT -5
Basically any topic created asking what songs you think are crap, what artists suck, who is overrated, etc. are no longer allowed because they're generally created by people out of anger or to cause arguments.
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Post by staythenight on May 26, 2005 15:01:13 GMT -5
Basically any topic created asking what songs you think are crap, what artists suck, who is overrated, etc. are no longer allowed because they're generally created by people out of anger or to cause arguments. isnt that what the "free downloads count" doing??? started by someone out of anger and jealousy.. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 26, 2005 15:28:29 GMT -5
Basically any topic created asking what songs you think are crap, what artists suck, who is overrated, etc. are no longer allowed because they're generally created by people out of anger or to cause arguments. isnt that what the "free downloads count" doing??? started by someone out of anger and jealousy.. Was that entire thread deleted?! I cant find it and it had information I wanted...like the Itunes and Billboard information about it. Are we not allowed to discuss buying free downloads now, even if it affects the charts?? |
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Post by staythenight on May 26, 2005 15:54:41 GMT -5
there really wasnt any info going on other than people venting their anger that HBG didnt spend one more week at #1.................if ppl stuck to the topic it would have cool to have a mature discussion on free downloads....but it turned out to be a mariah and we belong togther bashing ie flop song, flop album, flop artist......only jealousy and anger would make ppl say stupid things
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 27, 2005 11:02:27 GMT -5
Yeah, but why was it deleted? Someone must have gotten REALLY nasty because I think most posts are only closed.
COuld anyone repost or tell me where the information is reposted? Someone had information from billboard or itunes about the actual process of the label buying free downloads...
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Post by crash46 on May 27, 2005 11:05:30 GMT -5
??? ??? ??? Several threads are being closed and I see really no fighting or anything in them-so Im wondering if we have new rules or guidelines to follow? Ive been gone off and on since summer began and I figure I might have missed the notice that certain topics are no longer allowed on the boards.... I am the double-standards whiz he was speaking of. Back to work for me... pulsemusic.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=lounge&action=display&thread=1112752557Oh, look. We can't come to an agreement that Carrie was the rightful winner on that one TV show, or even if she has greater ability than past losers. Guess it's time to shut that one down, too. pulsemusic.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=pop&action=display&thread=1107210418What's this? Mariah Carey about to be #1? What will those who don't like Mariah have to say about that? Man, it's got volatility written all over it. Padlock time! Seriously though. What's the point of having this board if everyone is required to agree on everything, like every song ever created, and basically think that the entire world is comprised of sunshine, butterflies, flowers, and rainbows. There is a difference between a debate and a fight--a huge difference. There's seven moderators at this board now; you'd think that at least a couple of them would be able to decipher the difference well enough to not have to make unneccesary and just plaing stupid rules like disallowing negativity in any shape or form. |
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Post by Libra on May 27, 2005 12:36:27 GMT -5
The prevailing trend seems to be that lately a respectable debate over an issue is impossible due to one or both sides being really immature about it (especially in the free downloads fiasco), such to the point that it's easier to just disallow disagreements rather than lock every outrageous war that results. This goes hand in hand with having more moderators here, but obviously only so many can be here at once (and one who is also an administrator is currently overseas).
That's just my theory on it.[/font]
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Post by halo19 on May 27, 2005 12:37:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it's lame, but I guess that's just the current rule. The one I understood the least was "Worst CDs You Own", because that one wasn't really a fighting topic and was used for the purpose of stating that there were CDs you owned that you didn't like. I am starting to wonder why we even have a YOP forum if you can't just state an opinion.
It's like having a person that can't accept any criticism -- that's life. I'm thinking constructive criticism was never really negative to begin with. In fact, it's a bit like idealism. You say the things that could be improved upon what's happening.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 27, 2005 12:50:38 GMT -5
I havent even seen that many vicious fights...honestly, more like a few members who like to run around and bash people if they say anything.
I think we should delete the In Your Opinion forum if we are not longer allowed to give our opinions honestly. Or change it to the Give your opinion if its positive only forum.
It seems like we have gotten so lock crazy lately-even posts that have no fights whatsoever are being locked (or deleted, oddly, in some cases)
This board to me has always been a place where you COULD say your opinions openly about artists and cds. If I want to say "Mariah's new cd sucks to me" I should be able to. If I want to say Vanessa Carlton is one of the worst songwriters I have ever heard, I should be able to. If I want to say that Chariot by Gavin Degraw is overrated, I should be able to. (Or anyone else of course)
Now we are not allowed to critique artists I guess...or songs or cds. I just dont get the point of the board if that is so.
I know this will probably be locked and deleted too now...
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Post by Libra on May 27, 2005 12:54:28 GMT -5
I havent even seen that many vicious fights...honestly, more like a few members who like to run around and bash people if they say anything. I think we should delete the In Your Opinion forum if we are not longer allowed to give our opinions honestly. Or change it to the Give your opinion if its positive only forum. It seems like we have gotten so lock crazy lately-even posts that have no fights whatsoever are being locked (or deleted, oddly, in some cases) This board to me has always been a place where you COULD say your opinions openly about artists and cds. If I want to say "Mariah's new cd sucks to me" I should be able to. If I want to say Vanessa Carlton is one of the worst songwriters I have ever heard, I should be able to. If I want to say that Chariot by Gavin Degraw is overrated, I should be able to. (Or anyone else of course) Now we are not allowed to critique artists I guess...or songs or cds. I just dont get the point of the board if that is so. I know this will probably be locked and deleted too now... [/font] |
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Post by Dee on May 27, 2005 18:07:40 GMT -5
People have different tastes in music and it feels like it is that which is banned now. I liked this forum but just because people simply have different opinions shouldn't necassarily mean closed or deleted topic.
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Post by crash46 on May 28, 2005 2:19:38 GMT -5
This board to me has always been a place where you COULD say your opinions openly about artists and cds. [....] Now we are not allowed to critique artists I guess...or songs or cds. I just dont get the point of the board if that is so. Exactly...this is half the problem right here--that it used to be perfectly fine. And was that way for nearly five years, going back to the R and R board era. There was, for all intents and purposes, nothing to complain during those for years. This year, however, it seems as though I've had at least one major objection per month, and it is entirely 100% due to overenforcement and these rule changes, like the one we're currently talking about, which make no sense at all. And another really, truly pathetic enforcement method that's been happening too often is to go through certain topics and weed out any individual posts with even a hint of negativity in them, and leaving everything else so that it ultimately appears as if the board unanimously approves of the subject matter. Absolutely ridiculous and unforgivable. Anyway, there's enough support coming from this topic for this motion to revert back to the forum's rightful ways, which will conclusively prove whether certain moderator s (yes, plural) are really looking out for the better of the board, or if they're just looking for a way to throw their authoritative asses around. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2005 6:51:08 GMT -5
Why are you guys acting like you can't reply to a topic and say that you don't like a song or give criticism? You can. You can't go into random topics or make topics just to bash an artist. I mean, is there really a point? It causes flame wars, so what would be your intent?
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Post by Pipa on May 28, 2005 8:34:16 GMT -5
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Post by crash46 on May 29, 2005 4:24:09 GMT -5
Why are you guys acting like you can't reply to a topic and say that you don't like a song or give criticism? You can. You can't go into random topics or make topics just to bash an artist. I mean, is there really a point? It causes flame wars, so what would be your intent? I've had several posts deleted that were doing exactly what you just said we can do, and have had conversations with two other members with the same complaint. So if that is indeed allowed, some people need to get on the right page as to exactly what they're enforcing. The point of the topics where you can state what songs we think are overrated, or too bland, or the worst songs of the year, is exactly the same as the point of making year-end best lists and favorite videos lists, to name a few. Just that they're situated at different areas of the spectrum. To think that the intent of starting or participating in a "Who's Overrated" topic is just to pick a fight is absolutely ludicrous, and I'll even submit that they don't cause flame wars, either. There is only one cause for flame wars, and that would be people who fail to realize that opinions are going to differ. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2005 8:25:29 GMT -5
Why are you guys acting like you can't reply to a topic and say that you don't like a song or give criticism? You can. You can't go into random topics or make topics just to bash an artist. I mean, is there really a point? It causes flame wars, so what would be your intent? I've had several posts deleted that were doing exactly what you just said we can do, and have had conversations with two other members with the same complaint. So if that is indeed allowed, some people need to get on the right page as to exactly what they're enforcing. I haven't been deleting any of your posts and no other moderators have either. |
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