Re: The Top 100 Year-End (For impatient ones)

[radiorules]

Someone should do a biggest hits of 2003 chart, since this obviously does not represent it.

I wonder if Christina would have still been the most played female of the year if CHUD was not released.

[Crushcrushchris]

radiorules said:

Someone should do a biggest hits of 2003 chart, since this obviously does not represent it.

I guess what you're trying to say is that Christina should be 1, 2 and 3 this year, right?

I'd agree with what mst3k1 said about those three songs in the top 25 of 100 songs. That's not bad at all.

[radiorules]

No, i agree with the positions Fighter and CHUD are in (but switch them around since CHUD was a bigger hit than Fighter) but i think Beautiful should be in the top 5. Why would i think she has the 3 biggest hits of the year?

[mst3k]

radiorules said:

Someone should do a biggest hits of 2003 chart, since this obviously does not represent it.

Since you're one of the only posters who feels the yearend chart is "biased", then why don't you volunteer to do it rather than simply complaining.

Merry Christmas! :)

[radiorules]

I would but i would need to have a lot of sources like all the charts of the years, and stuff like that.

[DuckHead]

Someone should do a biggest hits of 2003 chart, since this obviously does not represent it.

I will be posting the Top Songs of 2003 based on Top 20 inverse points as soon as the final 2003 song falls out of the Top 20 (probably in March). If you would like, I could post the results so far (not that many positions will change between now and March anyway).

[radiorules]

Post it, let's see if i would agree with it.

[ChartKid]

Who cares if you'd agree with it? Your judgement is the only one that matters? 2003= Most played songs of 2003. PERIOD. This crap about it being biased is the most pointless discussion so far on these boards. Even if I disliked the #1 song, I'd be saying the same thing. #1 song of the week=Most played song during that period. #1 song of the year= most played song of that year. So....What's the trouble?

[FreakyFlyBry]

ChartKid said:

Who cares if you'd agree with it? Your judgement is the only one that matters? 2003= Most played songs of 2003. PERIOD. This crap about it being biased is the most pointless discussion so far on these boards. Even if I disliked the #1 song, I'd be saying the same thing. #1 song of the week=Most played song during that period. #1 song of the year= most played song of that year. So....What's the trouble?

I agree completely. You can't argue with facts.

[j]

I agree with EVERYONE ELSE who agrees.

The year-end chart isn't biased. We've talked about this 1,000,000 times. So everyone who thinks they are should just shut up to avoid sounding like the broken record that they are.

WOO-HOO at the song that just scrapes into the Top 5 and the 2 songs that are denied a Top 10 and Top 20 position!

SWEET JUSTICE I tell you!

I would've preferred any of the songs in the Top 10 (Not Top 11 mind you) to be #1 over 3 Doors Down. Oh except for Kelly Clarkson too.

[ChartKid]

j said:

I agree with EVERYONE ELSE who agrees.

The year-end chart isn't biased. We've talked about this 1,000,000 times. So everyone who thinks they are should just shut up to avoid sounding like the broken record that they are.

WOO-HOO at the song that just scrapes into the Top 5 and the 2 songs that are denied a Top 10 and Top 20 position!

SWEET JUSTICE I tell you!

I would've preferred any of the songs in the Top 10 (Not Top 11 mind you) to be #1 over 3 Doors Down. Oh except for Kelly Clarkson too.

Heh heh...Well I disagree about 3DD cuz it's a great song. But love those jabs you gave about you know who! ;)

[jimmy74747]

There is a posibility that 3 Doors Down could have the top 2 songs of the year on the Radiorules 2003 countdown. I like that idea.

[Love Plastic Love]

You know, quite a few of you make this a very unpleasant place to post sometimes.


Anyways, thrilled that 3 Doors Down is #1. Also happy that BMTL is #2. Overall, not a bad countdown :)

I was a little surprised that Beautiful was not higher-I thought it was more popular than #11, but its still a good number.

[Rob64]

LOL @ whoever said the year-end charts are biased. I should quote that in my signature. Why is this turning into a Christina topic?

[Matt4319]

First of all... the post office can suck it. I still haven't gotten the magazine yet.

Second... I can't think of a better top 2 than "When I'm Gone" and "Bring Me to Life". Among the songs that hit the top 20, anyway.

Third... it's freakin' hilarious how a certain poster in here is acting.

[ted11804]

j said:

I would've preferred any of the songs in the Top 10 (Not Top 11 mind you) to be #1 over 3 Doors Down. Oh except for Kelly Clarkson too.

Yeah, how did "When I'm Gone" become such a big hit? I don't remember it being as big as it apparently is. Just by listening to the radio and not knowing any facts, I would say the top 3 would be "Where Is The Love?," "In Da Club," and "I'm With You."

[Love Plastic Love]

You have to be joking-I heard Gone like, every 5 seconds for months it seemed. I adored that song when it first came out, but the overplayed nature of it killed it for me. Maybe you listened to some stations that did not overplay it.
I did not hear All I have that much at all-I dont know who was playing that one lol.

[ChartKid]

Well it might be true about WIG being overplayed...But it sure is great seeing it at #1! Now I'm GLAD it was overplayed

[DuckHead]

The year-end charts ARE biased toward songs released at certain times of the year. Also, they are technically inaccurate, as the most played song of 2003 was "Where Is The Love?". "When I'm Gone" was the most played song from December 2002-November 2003. The same thing happened last year when "In The End" was actually the most played song of the year. Plus, if the year-end is December-November, why isn't, say, April-March? Or something else. The R&R year-end charts do accuratly say what are the most played songs of the one-year period they measure, but they do not accuratly say what were the biggest hits of the year. Why should some songs get a whole year to rack up airplay, while some songs only get four months or so? It's not fair to all the songs.

All right then, here is the Top 40 songs of the year based on inverse Top 20 points. A song's entire chart run is used, and the song is placed in the year that it peaked. Note that this chart is not final, as some songs are still active and moving up the chart, namely "Here Without You", which will likely end up in the Top 3.

Song- Artist (Points/Weeks/Peak) (*= Active)

1. Where Is The Love?- Black Eyed Peas (366/24/1)
2. Bring Me To Life- Evanescence (323/24/1)
3. Miss Independent- Kelly Clarkson (299/20/1)
4. Shake Ya Tailfeather- Nelly f/ P. Diddy & Murphy Lee (299/21/1)
5. Rock Your Body- Justin Timberlake (292/20/1)
6. Unwell- Matchbox Twenty (286/24/3)
7. I'm With You- Avril Lavigne (280/19/1)
8. Ignition- R. Kelly (278/20/1)
9. Beautiful- Christina Aguilera (274/19/1)
10. When I'm Gone- 3 Doors Down (274/23/1)
11. Crazy In Love- Beyonce f/ Jay-Z (272/18/1)
12. In Da Club- 50 Cent (267/19/1)
13. All I Have- Jennifer Lopez f/ LL Cool J (264/19/1)
14. Here Without You- 3 Doors Down (264/15/1)*
15. Baby Boy- Beyonce f/ Sean Paul (232/14/1)*
16. Can't Hold Us Down- Christina Aguilera f/ Lil' Kim (225/17/3)
17. Why Don't You & I- Santana f/ Alex Band (213/18/3)
18. Picture- Kid Rock f/ Sheryl Crow (206/18/5)
19. Get Busy- Sean Paul (204/17/3)
20. Don't Mess With My Man- Nivea (190/18/4)
21. Are You Happy Now?- Michelle Branch (184/16/4)
22. Harder To Breathe- Maroon 5 (182/17/4)*
23. Cry Me A River- Justin Timberlake (177/13/3)
24. Mesmerize- Ja Rule f/ Ashanti (174/14/3)
25. Angel- Amanda Perez (163/15/3)
26. Bump, Bump, Bump- B2K f/ P. Diddy (160/14/3)
27. Fighter- Christina Aguilera (156/15/5)
28. Headstrong- Trapt (155/13/5)*
29. Family Portrait- Pink (154/16/5)
30. Suga Suga- Baby Bash (134/9/3)*
31. Sing For The Moment- Eminem (133/11/5)
32. Hey Ya!- Outkast (129/8/1)*
33. Senorita- Justin Timberlake (123/11/5)
34. Stacy's Mom- Fountains Of Wayne (121/10/3)
35. (There's Gotta Be) More To Life- Stacie Orrico (117/12/6)*
36. Right Thurr- Chingy (116/13/5)
37. I Know What You Want- Busta Rhymes f/ Mariah Carey (110/11/4)
38. All The Things She Said- T.A.T.U. (104/12/8)
39. If You're Not The One- Daniel Bedingfield (101/11/7)
40. Rock Wit U- Ashanti (100/10/5)

Probably the most surprising thing about this chart is that "When I'm Gone" is only # 10. And the fact that "Shake Ya Tailfeather" is all the way up at # 4.

[Rob64]

The year-end charts ARE biased toward songs released at certain times of the year

Huh? Then that also means that the weekly chart is biased towards what is released that week? huh? The chart isn't biased. It's showing us what was popular in 2003. You guys are weird!

[Rob64]

I think you guys are using the wrong word -- "biased" isn't the right word to use in this situation. I think eveyrthing makes sense. The year-end chart tells us what was most played in the year. They don't control when songs are released. You can't do anythign about it

[DuckHead]

Here's my point: "Hey Ya!" is # 85. "If You're Not The One" is # 33. You tell me which is the bigger hit.

[BlahBlahBlah]

DuckHead said:

Here's my point: "Hey Ya!" is # 85. "If You're Not The One" is # 33. You tell me which is the bigger hit.

Again, you're missing the point. The year-end chart's purpose is not to reflect the biggest hits of the year in order, instead, it is to tally up the most played songs within the chart year. You're trying to make the chart mean more than what it really does. Since it serves its purpose right, it doesn't make sense to call it "biased."

[Matt4319]

DuckHead said:

Probably the most surprising thing about this chart is that "When I'm Gone" is only # 10. And the fact that "Shake Ya Tailfeather" is all the way up at # 4.

And "In Da Club" down at #12. This chart is pretty laughable to me. It's technically accurate, but doesn't mean very much in the end.

DuckHead said:

The year-end charts ARE biased toward songs released at certain times of the year.

Gee, ya think?

lol @ Rob.

DuckHead said:

Plus, if the year-end is December-November, why isn't, say, April-March? Or something else.

Because the December-November period gives R&R, and in turn AT40, time to publish the year-end charts and record the countdowns. If it were January-December, we'd be waiting until late next month to know the top songs of the year.

[Rob64]

BlahBlahBlah said:

Again, you're missing the point. The year-end chart's purpose is not to reflect the biggest hits of the year in order, instead, it is to tally up the most played songs within the chart year. You're trying to make the chart mean more than what it really does. Since it serves its purpose right, it doesn't make sense to call it "biased."

Exactly!

Matt, lol what? What did i say? LOL!

[Matt4319]

Rob64 said:

Huh? Then that also means that the weekly chart is biased towards what is released that week?

[DuckHead]

This chart is pretty laughable to me. It's technically accurate, but doesn't mean very much in the end.

It's not any more laughable than R&R's chart, and doesn't mean anything less. It's just a different chart that I feel is a better, "fairer" one. But I guess most people here like R&R's year-end charts, and that's fine. I'm just not one of them.

That's why I like to make inverse point charts instead. I will eventually post the Top 50 inverse point charts, and the Top 40 without recurrent rules chart.

[Rob64]

R&R;s chart is as accurate as you're gonna get. "When I'm Gone" was the most-played song of the year. "Bring Me To Life" was the second most played song on radio this year on radio. Makes sense to me. I think you're forgetting the fact that R&R is a magasine about radio, for radio. I can't see the chart being compiled any other way. If it were compiled using a different method than the current one, I'd be the one complaining.

[pophector]

Rob64 said:

R&R;s chart is as accurate as you're gonna get. "When I'm Gone" was the most-played song of the year. "Bring Me To Life" was the second most played song on radio this year on radio. Makes sense to me. I think you're forgetting the fact that R&R is a magasine about radio, for radio. I can't see the chart being compiled any other way. If it were compiled using a different method than the current one, I'd be the one complaining.

Since when was CHR/Pop the whole of radio in 2003?

[Rob64]

We're in the pop forum, I don't think I needed to specify. Besides, you know what I'm talking about. This whole topic is about the pop chart. Why would I suddenly be talking about another chart? Where else is 3DD and Evanescence the top 2?