Is AT40...

[somelikeitwhen]

...the only radio countdown that lists the droppers?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only other one that I've heard of is...uhh...

Help?

[somelikeitwhen]

Bump

[tico]

I believe AT10 lists the droppers (whenever the chart moves fast enough to warrant droppers).

[somelikeitwhen]

What about AT20?

[Michael1973]

AT20 used to list the droppers, but they don't anymore.

[Hervard]

There are at least two former countdowns that listed the droppers. There was Scott Shannon's "Rockin' America Top 30 Countdown" (not sure if he still listed them when the countdown changed to an all-request countdown) and "Dave Sholin's Insider", which would read them from highest to lowest position from the week before (so if you missed the countdown from the week before, you could piece it together by writing down the droppers and the last week's position, which he also always mentioned.

I miss "Dave Sholin's Insider". That was such a cool show, but I guess that I should have seen the end nearing when it was trimmed to three hours, presumably to sell the show better. That obviously didn't work, as the show ceased production five months later.

And a little over ten years later, the trade magazine from which the chart came, "Gavin Magazine", also went under.

[tobedawg]

"Dave Sholin's Insider" was an awesome show! Very fast paced countdown.. I remember the weekend that it switched from "Dave Sholin's Countdown USA" to "Dave Sholin's Insider"..

Countdown U.S.A. used the R&R charts.. I really liked how Dave Sholin's show would recap clips and the number 1 song from the Top 5 last week, AND before announcing the number 1 song would play back clips of the Top 10 songs...

I also remember the short lived post-Dave Sholin's Insider show, the two hour, "Fast Track" with Dave Sholin, which was all a new CHR music show that aired during the summer of 1992..

[tico]

Rick Dees, every now and then, use to play clips of songs that dropped off the countdown and would play the sound of a toilet flushing afterwards.

[BillboardBoy]

tico said:

Rick Dees, every now and then, use to play clips of songs that dropped off the countdown and would play the sound of a toilet flushing afterwards.

The only time I recall him mentioning the droppers was once in 1997. He said that they were all going to countdown heaven except for "My Boo" by the Ghost Town DJs. ;)

[reception]

On Rick Dees when "Just Another Day" by Jon Secada fell off the chart, he played a clip of it and he eventually slowed it down: then he mentioned it was going to countdown hell.

[Hervard]

billboardboy said:

tico said:

Rick Dees, every now and then, use to play clips of songs that dropped off the countdown and would play the sound of a toilet flushing afterwards.

The only time I recall him mentioning the droppers was once in 1997. He said that they were all going to countdown heaven except for "My Boo" by the Ghost Town DJs.  ;)

January 25, 1997. He played clips of two other songs, one of which was "I Love You Always Forever" by Donna Lewis (to which I heaved a sigh of relief". When he got to "My Boo", he said it was going to countdown heaven, then something like "Uh-oh, it's kind of leveling off now, whoa, it's going the other way. It goes to show that not all songs go to Countdown Heaven."

[Hervard]

tobedawg said:

"Dave Sholin's Insider" was an awesome show! Very fast paced countdown.. I remember the weekend that it switched from "Dave Sholin's Countdown USA" to "Dave Sholin's Insider"..

Wasn't that the weekend of April 7, 1990, or thereabouts? (I know the #1 song that week was "I Wish It Would Rain Down" by Phil Collins).

[KelownaGuy20]

Ryan Seacrest never mentions the droppers on the HotAC version of AT40.

[somelikeitwhen]

I remember one week that Casey accidentally listed Hit Em' Up Style as a dropper, when it actually wasn't.

What was the actual dropper?

[shadster]

Actually Rick Dees did list and play songs that dropped off the countdown right around the turn of the decade of the 90's. At the begining of each show he would play a clip of the song and would announce it as such, "And now some hits left over the 80s, that will not continue into the 90s.." Some of the songs I recall him playing were Roxettes' listen to your heart; a song by Jive bunny; the 1 an only hit from Tesla; and song I think was called "dont make me over".

[Hervard]

shadster said:

Actually Rick Dees did list and play songs that dropped off the countdown right around the turn of the decade of the 90's.  At the begining of each show he would play a clip of the song and would announce it as such, "And now some hits left over the 80s, that will not continue into the 90s.."  Some of the songs I recall him playing were Roxettes' listen to your heart; a song by Jive bunny; the 1 an only hit from Tesla; and song I think was called "dont make me over".

The Jive Bunny song was "Swing The Mood", a medley of a bunch of songs from the beginning of the Rock Era (and the big band song "In The Mood"). Tesla's song was "Love Song" and "Don't Make Me Over" was by Sybil. I don't think all those songs fell off on the same week, though. I know that on the first CT40 chart of the 1990s, "Don't Make Me Over" dropped from 36 to 40. However, that depends on what Dees did over the holiday weekend. If he did a decade-end countdown on the weekend of January 6 (like CT40 did on some stations), then those songs would probably have fallen off the same week (though I could have sworn that "Swing The Mood" charted a few weeks during the beginning of 1990. I'll have to go back and check my records.

[johnnywest]

ulij20 said:

I know that on the first CT40 chart of the 1990s, "Don't Make Me Over" dropped from 36 to 40.  However, that depends on what Dees did over the holiday weekend.  If he did a decade-end countdown on the weekend of January 6 (like CT40 did on some stations), then those songs would probably have fallen off the same week (though I could have sworn that "Swing The Mood" charted a few weeks during the beginning of 1990.  I'll have to go back and check my records.

I wasn't aware that Casey even did a decade-end show. What were the songs? My local station just played a year-end Top 40 show. The week before and the week after were regular countdowns.

[tico]

johnnywest said:

ulij20 said:

I know that on the first CT40 chart of the 1990s, "Don't Make Me Over" dropped from 36 to 40.  However, that depends on what Dees did over the holiday weekend.  If he did a decade-end countdown on the weekend of January 6 (like CT40 did on some stations), then those songs would probably have fallen off the same week (though I could have sworn that "Swing The Mood" charted a few weeks during the beginning of 1990.  I'll have to go back and check my records.

I wasn't aware that Casey even did a decade-end show. What were the songs? My local station just played a year-end Top 40 show. The week before and the week after were regular countdowns.

I remember Casey having a countdown of the biggest hits of the 80s. I seem to recall hearing it near the end of 1990 or maybe even 1989. I also recall American Top 40 having an 80s countdown.

[johnnywest]

I remember when Casey had a special countdown of the biggest selling hits of the 80s, like "We Are The World," "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun," "Batdance," etc. But I don't remember an official countdown of the biggest airplay hits of the 80s. In fact, that might've been aired after Thanksgiving in 1990.

[tico]

johnnywest said:

I remember when Casey had a special countdown of the biggest selling hits of the 80s, like "We Are The World," "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun," "Batdance," etc. But I don't remember an official countdown of the biggest airplay hits of the 80s. In fact, that might've been aired after Thanksgiving in 1990.

You might be right. I do seem to recall it being a Thanksgiving weekend. I was a road trip home from Detroit and heard it on a radio station somewhere. All I remember was that it was an 80s music countdown.

[Hervard]

Yeah, Casey did a Top 40 Million Sellers of the 80s countdown on Thanksgiving weekend. It was the only instance (besides the year-end shows) where the a special countdown pre-empted the regular show. Throughout 1990, there were several special shows, each of them "The Biggest (insert configuration here) Hits Of The 1980s", but stations were given a choice between running a regular show or the special. The stations on which I caught CT40 ran the regular weekly shows in their regular time slot, but for the "Million Sellers Of The 1980s", stations weren't given a choice and the upcoming show was mentioned many times during the countdowns of the previous two or three weeks. This would turn out to be Casey's final special show (except for the year-enders).

Anyway, back to the show I mentioned earlier. It was the "Top 40 Hits Of The 1980s" and stations were given the option to run it the weekend of January 6, 1990. My station ran a regular show that weekend, but they aired the "Top 40 Hits Of The 80s" show on Christmas Day. It wasn't very accurate, because of the two different chart sizes during the decade as well as the fact that the charts moved much faster in the late 80s than they did in the first half of the 80s (and, I'm sure, because they were afraid they'd melt if they played too many songs from the early 80s).

I have a list of it somewhere, but I don't know where it is. If I find it, I'll be sure to post it. If someone else has it then, by all means, post it here.

I do know that the #1 song of 1986, "Stuck With You" by Huey Lewis & The News, kicked it off and the #1 song was, to nobody's surprise, "Every Breath You Take" by the Police.

Every #1 song of the year was among the list except for "Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car" by Billy Ocean.

[johnnywest]

michael1973 said:

AT20 used to list the droppers, but they don't anymore.

Casey started doing it again earlier this year.

[Cerebro]

ulij20 said:

Yeah, Casey did a Top 40 Million Sellers of the 80s countdown on Thanksgiving weekend. It was the only instance (besides the year-end shows) where the a special countdown pre-empted the regular show. Throughout 1990, there were several special shows, each of them "The Biggest (insert configuration here) Hits Of The 1980s", but stations were given a choice between running a regular show or the special. The stations on which I caught CT40 ran the regular weekly shows in their regular time slot, but for the "Million Sellers Of The 1980s", stations weren't given a choice and the upcoming show was mentioned many times during the countdowns of the previous two or three weeks. This would turn out to be Casey's final special show (except for the year-enders).

Anyway, back to the show I mentioned earlier. It was the "Top 40 Hits Of The 1980s" and stations were given the option to run it the weekend of January 6, 1990. My station ran a regular show that weekend, but they aired the "Top 40 Hits Of The 80s" show on Christmas Day. It wasn't very accurate, because of the two different chart sizes during the decade as well as the fact that the charts moved much faster in the late 80s than they did in the first half of the 80s (and, I'm sure, because they were afraid they'd melt if they played too many songs from the early 80s).

I have a list of it somewhere, but I don't know where it is. If I find it, I'll be sure to post it. If someone else has it then, by all means, post it here.

I do know that the #1 song of 1986, "Stuck With You" by Huey Lewis & The News, kicked it off and the #1 song was, to nobody's surprise, "Every Breath You Take" by the Police.

Every #1 song of the year was among the list except for "Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car" by Billy Ocean.

Here are the two mentioned 80s charts. I saved them years ago from the, long defunct, Pop Music Chart Archive site which used to post Casey's chart every week.

The first weekend of 1990, stations were given an option to play the first special. It wasn't a decade-end chart, per se, but billed as the "top 40 #1s" of the decade. It's, actually, a pretty balanced chart. If you count each song toward the year in which it peaked, then there are, exactly, 4 songs for each year of the decade here. It seems, largely, inaccurate for a "true" decade-end chart. Some rankings seem odd (would "Man In The Mirror" really have been bigger than "Billie Jean" or "Beat It"?) and restricting the list to #1s keeps some other big hits off the chart (on a "real" decade-end chart, big #2s like "Physical" and "Keep On Loving You" may have made the top 40).


CASEY'S TOP 40 - TOP 40 #1S OF THE 1980S - JANUARY 6, 1990
40 Huey Lewis and The News - Stuck With You
39 USA For Africa - We Are The World
38 Boston - Amanda
37 Billy Joel - It's Still Rock And Roll To Me
36 Madonna - Live To Tell
35 Toto - Rosanna
34 Dionne and Friends - That's What Friends Are For
33 Huey Lewis and The News - The Power Of Love
32 U2 - With Or Without You
31 Christopher Cross - Sailing
30 Michael Jackson - Man In The Mirror
29 Madonna - Crazy For You
28 Steve Winwood - Roll With It
27 Richard Marx - Right Here Waiting
26 George Michael - Faith
25 Rick Springfield - Don't Talk To Strangers
24 Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer
23 Phil Collins - Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now)
22 Madonna - Like A Prayer
21 Prince and The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
20 Kenny Rogers - Lady
19 Men At Work - Down Under
18 Debbie Gibson - Lost In Your Eyes
17 Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger
16 Diana Ross and Lionel Richie - Endless Love
15 Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)
14 Prince and The Revolution - When Doves Cry
13 Janet Jackson - Miss You Much
12 Lionel Richie - Say You, Say Me
11 George Michael - Father Figure
10 Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes
09 Irene Cara - Flashdance...What A Feeling
08 George Michael - One More Try
07 Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson - Say Say Say
06 Van Halen - Jump
05 Daryl Hall and John Oates - I Can't Go For That (No Can Do)
04 Blondie - Call Me
03 Foreigner - Waiting For A Girl Like You
02 Journey - Open Arms
01 The Police - Every Breath You Take


The other 80s chart is more straightforward. As the title implies, it's a sales chart ranking the 40 biggest platinum singles of the decade. Interesting to note that "Pump Up The Jam" and, I think, "Back To Life" didn't reach their airplay peaks until 1990. Apparently, they sold enough singles in the 80s to qualify for this list.


CASEY'S TOP 40 - TOP 40 MILLION SELLERS OF THE 1980S - NOVEMBER 24, 1990
40 Kool and The Gang - Celebration
39 Milli Vanilli - Blame It On The Rain
38 Bobby Brown - On Our Own
37 New Kids On The Block - Hangin' Tough
36 Madonna - Crazy For You
35 Janet Jackson - Miss You Much
34 Richard Marx - Right Here Waiting
33 Soul II Soul featuring Caron Wheeler - Back To Life (However Do You Want Me)
32 Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes - Up Where We Belong
31 Paula Abdul - Straight Up
30 Kenny Loggins - Footloose
29 Dionne and Friends - That's What Friends Are For
28 Madonna - Like A Prayer
27 REO Speedwagon - Keep On Loving You
26 Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder - Ebony And Ivory
25 Cyndi Lauper - Girls Just Want To Have Fun
24 The Beach Boys - Kokomo
23 Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson - Say Say Say
22 Milli Vanilli - Girl You Know It's True
21 Michael Jackson - Thriller
20 Prince - Batdance
19 Phil Collins - Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now)
18 Whitney Houston - I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)
17 Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters
16 Michael Jackson - Billie Jean
15 Madonna - Like A Virgin
14 Technotronic featuring Felly - Pump Up The Jam
13 The Police - Every Breath You Take
12 Prince and The Revolution - Let's Go Crazy
11 Bonnie Tyler - Total Eclipse Of The Heart
10 Tone-Loc - Wild Thing
09 Michael Jackson - Rock With You
08 Michael Jackson - Beat It
07 Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton - Islands In The Stream
06 Prince and The Revolution - When Doves Cry
05 Queen - Another One Bites The Dust
04 Diana Ross and Lionel Richie - Endless Love
03 Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger
02 Olivia Newton-John - Physical
01 USA For Africa - We Are The World

[freakyflybry2]

The only time I remember Rick Dees mentioning a dropper was in 1990 when Billy Idol's "Cradle of Love" fell off.

[atlantaboy]

May 29, 2008 10:17:36 GMT -5 @freakyflybry2 said:

The only time I remember Rick Dees mentioning a dropper was in 1990 when Billy Idol's "Cradle of Love" fell off.

Wow lol can't believe you remember that...

For a while (sometime when I was a kid), Dees would play short "snippets" of the droppers and "fade them" out of tune, sayin somethin like they were bein put "in the vault" or somethin like that...don't think it lasted long though...

[johnm1120]

Jul 20, 2006 1:07:54 GMT -5 KelownaGuy20 said:

Ryan Seacrest never mentions the droppers on the HotAC version of AT40.

I didn't know the HotAC version of AT40 had droppers