"How You Gonna Act Like That" v "Miss Independent"

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FreakyFlyBry said:

It can't really be defined... something about how well-known a song is. If it's reached a wide range, it's a big hit.

Well the Hot 100 measures exactly that, how-well known a song is. That's what audience measurement is. "How You Gonna Act Like That" got more audience than "Miss Independent".

[FreakyFlyBry]

The said:

Well the Hot 100 measures exactly that, how-well known a song is. That's what audience measurement is. "How You Gonna Act Like That" got more audience than "Miss Independent".

It would be accurate for measuring that if radio and single sales were the only means for which people could hear songs. It doesn't track videos or sales of the CD albums, or anything else but radio and single sales, so it isn't exactly accurate in that means.

[jimmy74747]

The said:

Well the Hot 100 measures exactly that, how-well known a song is. That's what audience measurement is. "How You Gonna Act Like That" got more audience than "Miss Independent".

Not exactly. Remember the top rhythmic songs get 80-90 spins per week on one station. Do different people listen to the song each time its played? No. A lot of the same people hear the song multiple times per week.

Compare that to the average Hot AC or AC station where the top songs get played half as much. You can listen to the station just as long, but hear the top songs half as much.

If the stations get the EXACT SAME RATINGS, Tyrese gets twice as many audience impression points because rhythmic stations play him twice as often as Kelly's Hot AC stations. Unless, you can prove that different people are listening to the song each time its played, then you cannot say more people heard the song.

Once the charts are back to normal, I'll compare some stations to show that rhythmic/urban/pop songs have unfair advantages over Hot AC and especially AC songs.

[af18c]

Bryans right on this one...

[Leafstorm]

Tyrese

[strong4PMB!]

Tyrese, definitely.

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FreakyFlyBry said:

It would be accurate for measuring that if radio and single sales were the only means for which people could hear songs. It doesn't track videos or sales of the CD albums, or anything else but radio and single sales, so it isn't exactly accurate in that means.

Because when you buy an album, it doesn't necessarily mean you buy it for the single. Plenty of times I hate the lead single, but I buy the album because I trust the artist.

[ExActLy99]

I don't really understand what were suppose to do, but I voted for "Miss Independent" because it was a bigger hit to me. However, Tyrese may have actually been the bigger hit because he had rhythmic stations playing him. I'm sure if I'd taken this to school, Kelly would win big time, because she is probably much better known, I could ask do you know Tyrese? and I'm sure many wouldn't know who he is, I thought Tyrese was a girl until I heard the song, it sounds like a girl name to me. Most people at my school are really into Alternative Rock.

[BFMR]

The said:

Because when you buy an album, it doesn't necessarily mean you buy it for the single. Plenty of times I hate the lead single, but I buy the album because I trust the artist.

or they don't necessarily buy it for themselves either.

It would be accurate for measuring that if radio and single sales were the only means for which people could hear songs. It doesn't track videos or sales of the CD albums, or anything else but radio and single sales,
so it isn't exactly accurate in that means.

well then, the system you suggest also has major flaws... how many stores have a music station playing just to have background music? How would tracking videos be justified then?