country crossovers

[smack]

Please vote for THE song you think paved the way for current country crossovers to AC and other formats. Also, do you think this will continue?

[WhySoSerious?]

LeAnn's "How Do I Live" was a flop on country, so I'm not sure it would be a crossover song.

[JCMF3]

It has to be Shania Twain's You're Still The One for recent country crossovers (like in the past 5 years). However, before that, having country songs on the pop chart was a common occurrence.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

BRC was first soo naturally he paved the way for CC becuase he was first.

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TCorey said:

LeAnn's "How Do I Live" was  a flop on country, so I'm not sure it would be a crossover song.

Probably what has me voting for it by a landslide.

[JCMF3]

Adonis-Love said:

BRC was first soo naturally he paved the way for CC becuase he was first.

It may have been first, but that doesn't mean it "opened the door" for country crossovers. That's like saying that "Party Up" opened the door for the urban/RHY invasion of pop radio in the last 4 years. I can think of many other bigger hits that did that.

[WhySoSerious?]

The said:

Probably what has me voting for it by a landslide.

How can it be a country crossover when country didn't even play it.

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TCorey said:

How can it be a country crossover when country didn't even play it.

Oops I voted for my favorite.

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The said:

Oops I voted for my favorite. 

So did I (Lonestar). Then I read the poll question.

[strong4PMB!]

I don't know! :( Shania?

[irice22]

"How Do I Live?" easily.

[someguy]

I'd say out of these, "You're Still The One", since Achy Breaky Heart didn't really make a huge pop impact, and LeAnn Rimes' song was not a country crossover.

[Miguelín]

"You're Still the one"... but my favourite Amazed by far

[Keith3000]

TCorey said:

LeAnn's "How Do I Live" was  a flop on country

I know the Trisha Yearwood version was the bigger country hit (and with good reason too), but I heard somewhere that the LeAnn Rimes version was also a massive country hit and was one of the longest running singles on the country chart (in addition to, of course, the Hot 100).

As for the answering the question, the first major country crossover after a long time was definitely "How Do I Live". My favorite song of the choices would be "Amazed".

[WhySoSerious?]

Keith3000 said:

I know the Trisha Yearwood version was the bigger country hit (and with good reason too), but I heard somewhere that the LeAnn Rimes version was also a massive country hit and was one of the longest running singles on the country chart (in addition to, of course, the Hot 100).

No. It peaked at #43, but did go recurrent with 20 wks on. No records there.

[mst3k]

TCorey said:

No.  It peaked at #43, but did go recurrent with 20 wks on.  No records there.

Keith's probably thinking of the Country Singles Sales chart (LeAnn's "How Do I Live" set major longevity records there, but that was pretty much by default, as very few country airplay hits are even released as commercial singles, and even fewer get enough pop airplay to become huge sellers).

[Keith3000]

mst3k said:

Keith's probably thinking of the Country Singles Sales chart (LeAnn's "How Do I Live" set major longevity records there, but that was pretty much by default, as very few country airplay hits are even released as commercial singles, and even fewer get enough pop airplay to become huge sellers).

Yes, you're right, that's what I was thinking of. In fact, I think it fell of the Country Singles Sales chart sometime last year.

[Gorminako]

The Rebirth Experience wrote:Oops I voted for my favorite.   


So did I (Lonestar). Then I read the poll question.

Same here.

[smack]

The country station I listened to refused to play Leann's version....but I heard it the other day, and they played Leann's rather than Trishas.  But I guess as far as it "not being a country song"...it did have another version that was a #2 country hit, and it was by a country artist. As far as the single, I believe it was the only one to date to spend 100 weeks in the top 75 on the pop chart, and has spent about 280+ on the country....but note that they chopped the country singles from 25 positions to 10 about 2 years ago, and since there are hardly any released now, I bet it's still in the top 25. It could realistically have well over 400 weeks by now. But I think it was in the top 5 of all time as far as numbers of copies sold. So it was a huge hit both airplay and sales.


I know the Trisha Yearwood version was the bigger country hit (and with good reason too), but I heard somewhere that the LeAnn Rimes version was also a massive country hit and was one of the longest running singles on the country chart (in addition to, of course, the Hot 100).

As for the answering the question, the first major country crossover after a long time was definitely "How Do I Live". My favorite song of the choices would be "Amazed".[/quote]

[smack]

One more thing....had the current hot 100 rules been in effect (where airplay counts more than single sales), would Shania have hit #1, or would "they boy is mine" still have held her off?

[mst3k]

smack said:

One more thing....had the current hot 100 rules been in effect (where airplay counts more than single sales), would Shania have hit #1, or would "they boy is mine" still have held her off?

"Boy" probably still would've kept Shania out of #1, since you'd be adding in significant R&B airplay (back then, only pop, rhythmic, AC, hot AC, and modern rock stations counted toward the Hot 100 airplay panel). Heck, Usher and Next might've kept Shania from even hitting #2 in that scenario.

[smack]

True, but you would also have to factor country airplay in there. A country #1 would've peaked at about 35ish back then, due to the # of singles released that impacted the chart. However, one thing that was completely different about this song.....it was released to country and pop at the same time, and had peaked approximately the same time at hot ac/country and top 40, AND more importantly, hit #1 at country. No other single has done this. This kiss, Breathe, Amazed, I'm already there all hit #1, but stated receiving pop airplay either while at #1, or while descending the chart. Faith also had some high debuts, such as Cry and There you'll be, but neither of those cracked top 10 at country. Therefore, we have never seen what a single that hits #1 at country and several other formats at a single time can do on airplay. I'd imagine that even with the rap/r&b airplay included, it could've squeaked out at least 1-3 weeks at #2 airplay, and still had a single that peaked at #2 at the same time. One thing I noticed after they changed the format to include airplay only, the big 5 week at #1 songs of 1999 and 2000, the song peaked at #1 on sales, then on it's way down, hit #1 on airplay. Just a thought.
Mike

mst3k said:

"Boy" probably still would've kept Shania out of #1, since you'd be adding in significant R&B airplay (back then, only pop, rhythmic, AC, hot AC, and modern rock stations counted toward the Hot 100 airplay panel). Heck, Usher and Next might've kept Shania from even hitting #2 in that scenario.