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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 18:24:52 GMT -5
The Joel Whitburn Top Pop Singles 1955-2006 book just came out In it is the Top 500 Artists Top 40 artists by decade Top 10 artists by decade for male/female/groups Top artists by year by categor male/female/groups Most chart hits most top 40 hits most top 10 hits most #1 hits most weeks at #1 most platinum hits most gold hits most weeks charted most "classics" most "featurings" Historical #1 sales-only hits RIAA certified shipments by year by type (vinyl, CD cassette. digital) Top 100 pop hit avg (avg peak/chart hits) Joel Whitburns top 200 singles all time Joel Whitburns top 25 by decade Honor Roll of Hits (songs that received the most awards) Longest stay in the Hot 100 by decade Top 50 record labels Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame inductees by year #1 Hits listing through August 2007 Joel Whitburn's Billboard books are always informative and fun to read IMO. Anyway, just a little trivia that is probably also somewhere in that new book. There have been exactly 990 #1 songs since the rock era "offically" began the week of July 9, 1955 with "(We're Gonna) Rock Around The Clock" by Bill Haley & The Comets. There were exactly 39 #1 songs from July 9, 1955 through July 28, 1958 in the pre-Hot 100 era. From the week of Aug 4, 1958, when the first Hot 100 chart was published, through the current week of Oct 13, 2007, there have been exactly 951 #1 songs that have topped the Hot 100. The first #1 song on the Hot 100 was "Poor Little Fool" by Ricky Nelson. "Crank That" is the latest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 18:51:03 GMT -5
The most "featurings" is kind of interesting.
It gives credence to the rapid rise in songs that are labeled as artist x featuring artist y
The most hot 100 hits as a featured artist: 15
Jay-Z Puff Daddy Nate Dogg
(through mid year 07)
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Post by mst3k on Oct 4, 2007 18:58:25 GMT -5
The Joel Whitburn Top Pop Singles 1955-2006 book just came out The first 48 pages of my copy were cut at a weird angle, so everything is slightly slanted. :( Fortunately none of the printing is actually missing. One thing that I don't like about the new edition is the way it lists artist collaborations (the latest editions of the Country and AC books have the same problem). Aside from the "featuring" subheadings (which I do like), nearly every other artist collaboration is shown simply as "w/", making it unclear in some cases as to who was actually listed first on the record label. Fortunately I still have my older edition to refer to in those cases.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 4, 2007 20:21:28 GMT -5
Can you guys PLEASE list the Top 10 Artists with their points?
I haven't received mine yet.
Thanks!
This is the Top 10 that apeared in the Top Pop Annual Book:
1. Elvs Presley 9,406 2. The Beatles 5,360 3. Elton John 5,060 4. Madonna 4,713 5. Stevie Wonder 4,316 6. Mariah Carey 4,287 7. James Brown 4,018 8. Michael Jackson 3,950 9. Janet Jackson 3,897 10. The Rolling Stones 3,830
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 20:26:49 GMT -5
1. Elvs Presley 9,406 2. The Beatles 5,360 3. Elton John 5,045 4. Madonna 4,749 5. Mariah Carey 4295 6. Stevie Wonder 4,278 7. James Brown 4,018 8. Michael Jackson 3,950 9. Janet Jackson 3,887 10. The Rolling Stones 3,810
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 20:29:04 GMT -5
"featured" artists have been adjusted downward, according to the new book
The lead artist gets 100% of the points The featured artists gets 20% of the points
'That's What Friends Are For' By Dionne Warwick featuring Elton John & Stevie Wonder & Gladys Knight would be an example
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 4, 2007 20:31:18 GMT -5
Thanks, 2m!!
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 4, 2007 22:19:18 GMT -5
What is the last chart used in the new book?
I like that "featured" policy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2007 0:01:18 GMT -5
The artist listings go through 12/31/06
The list of #1's goes through:
8/25/07 #1 - Beautiful Girls - Sean Kingston
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 5, 2007 16:38:04 GMT -5
Where did you get the book? I didn't see it at Barnes & Noble or Books-A-Million here.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 5, 2007 16:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2007 16:53:55 GMT -5
I pre-ordered it in July thinking that I would get it early and only finally ended up getting it yesterday :o
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 5, 2007 19:44:18 GMT -5
1. Elvs Presley 9,406 2. The Beatles 5,360 3. Elton John 5,045 4. Madonna 4,749 5. Mariah Carey 4295 6. Stevie Wonder 4,278 7. James Brown 4,018 8. Michael Jackson 3,950 9. Janet Jackson 3,887 10. The Rolling Stones 3,810 Isn't Mariah the artist on this list with the fewest singles by a decent amount? The Beatles obviously did huge damage in a short time, but Mariah's stats are damn impressive as well. About half of her singles have gone to #1.
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Post by mst3k on Oct 5, 2007 20:19:06 GMT -5
^ Yep.
1. Elvis Presley 9,406 (151 chart hits) 2. The Beatles 5,360 (72) 3. Elton John 5,045 (68) 4. Madonna 4,749 (53) 5. Mariah Carey 4295 (40 + 1 featured artist credit) 6. Stevie Wonder 4,278 (63) 7. James Brown 4,018 (94) 8. Michael Jackson 3,950 (47) 9. Janet Jackson 3,887 (42 + 4) 10. The Rolling Stones 3,810 (57)
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 5, 2007 22:23:30 GMT -5
In terms of averages, it's a different story:
1. Mariah Carey - 104.756 (includes one 20% credit) 2. Madonna - 89.604 3. Janet Jackson - 84.5 (includes four 20% credits) 4. Michael Jackson - 84.043 5. The Beatles - 74.444 6. Elton John - 74.191 7. The Rolling Stones - 66.842 8. Stevie Wonder - 67.904 9. Elvis Presley - 62.291 10. James Brown - 42.745
Of course, for some reason songs have more longevity now than they used to, and that favors newer artists. The system Joel uses favors older artists in the sense that artists tended to release a lot more singles because of the fast turnover.
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Post by WotUNeed on Oct 5, 2007 23:34:23 GMT -5
You're counting sides, not singles. That's skewing your average for a lot of artists with two-sided hits.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2007 10:05:21 GMT -5
2006
(1) King - T.I. - 522 (1) Me And My Gang - Rascal Flatts - 722 (1) 10,000 Days - Tool - 564 (1) Stadium Arcadium - Red Hot Chili Peppers - 442 (1) Taking The Long Way - Dixie Chicks - 526 (1) B'Day - Beyonce - 541 (1) Futuresex/Love Sounds - Justin Timberlake - 684 (1) The Open Door - Evanescence - 447 (1) Kingdom Come - Jay-Z - 680
2007
(1) Not Too Late - Norah Jones - 405 (1) Minutes To Midnight - Linkin Park - 623 (1) It Won't Seem Soon Before Long - Maroon 5 - 429 (1) T.I. vs T.I.P. - T.I. - 468 (1) High School Musical 2 - 615 (1) Graduation Kanye West - 956 (2) Curtis 50 Cent - 691 (1) Still Feels Good Rascal Flatts - 546
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Post by WotUNeed on Oct 7, 2007 6:39:06 GMT -5
We were doing this in the Nostalgia section, but I thought I'd stick it here too.
Songs from the Eurovision Song Contest to make the Billboard Hot 100: "Beg, Steal, or Borrow" (#81/1972) "Congratulations" (#99/1968) "Eres Tu" (#9/1974) "Knock Knock Who's There" (#92/1972) "Nel blu dipinto di blu (Volare)" (#1/1958) (English lyrics charted versions: Dean Martin (#12/1958), McGuire Sisters (#80/1958), Bobby Rydell (#4/1960), Al Martino (#33/1975)) "Ooh Aah... Just a Little Bit" (#12/1997) "Piove (Ciao, ciao bambina)" (#97/1959) (Instrumental cover by Jacky Noguez: #24/1959) "Save Your Kisses for Me" (#27/1976) (Cover by Bobby Vinton: #75/1976) "Say Wonderful Things" (#91/1963) (Cover by Patti Page: #81/1963) "Waterloo" (#6/1974)
Other notable ESC connections: -Vicky Leandros's "L'amour est bleu" charted several times as "Love Is Blue" in English translations or, perhaps most notably, as a #1 instrumental hit. -"Power to All Our Friends" made the Bubbling Under chart. -Massiel's "La La La" made the Bubbling Under chart in two versions: one an instrumental titled "La La La (He Gives Me Love)" by Raymond Lefevre, the other a Lesley Gore vocal with new English lyrics titled "He Gives Me Love (La La La)." -"Ding-a-Dong" made the Adult Contemporary chart in 1975.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2007 15:07:48 GMT -5
All time chart record - most debuts in a single week -BB200
10/13/2007
45
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Post by jebsib on Oct 7, 2007 17:20:02 GMT -5
1. Elvs Presley 9,406 2. The Beatles 5,360 3. Elton John 5,045 4. Madonna 4,749 5. Mariah Carey 4295 6. Stevie Wonder 4,278 7. James Brown 4,018 8. Michael Jackson 3,950 9. Janet Jackson 3,887 10. The Rolling Stones 3,810 Damn, look at that: One or two more big hits and Mariah could top Madonna as the # 1 female of the last 50 years!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2007 17:27:54 GMT -5
LOL That comment has the potential to set off another Mariah vs Madonna war if they happen to read this thread.
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Post by mst3k on Oct 7, 2007 20:56:07 GMT -5
All time chart record - most debuts in a single week 10/13/2007 45 Album chart, right?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2007 21:23:44 GMT -5
All time chart record - most debuts in a single week 10/13/2007 45 Album chart, right? Yes but, one would assume that since that is the deepest chart they publish and 45 is the record for a chart with 200 entries, it would be hard to get more than 45 debuts on a chart with 50-100 entries on it.
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Post by mst3k on Oct 8, 2007 19:22:25 GMT -5
^ Oh, definitely. I didn't know you were talking about "all charts", but that works too.
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Post by spooky21 on Oct 9, 2007 3:53:27 GMT -5
"featured" artists have been adjusted downward, according to the new book The lead artist gets 100% of the points The featured artists gets 20% of the points 'That's What Friends Are For' By Dionne Warwick featuring Elton John & Stevie Wonder & Gladys Knight would be an example It's about time. I've always thought featured artists got too much credit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2007 15:47:37 GMT -5
With Justin Timberlakes 41-28 move on the Hot 100 this week, Futuresex/Lovesounds becomes the first album since 'Come On Over' to have 6 top 40 hits. First solo male since 'Dangerous' by Michael Jackson
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2007 16:55:46 GMT -5
Pulled from ukmix Most top 40 hits one album
Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation (7) Michael Jackson Bad (7) Michael Jackson Thriller (7) Michael Jackson Dangerous (7) Bruce Springsteen Born in the U.S.A. (7) Bryan Adams Reckless (6) Def Leppard Hysteria (6) Footloose (6) Janet Jackson janet. (6) Janet Jackson Control (6) Billy Joel An Innocent Man (6) George Michael Faith (6) Justin Timberlake FutureSex / LoveSounds (6) Shania Twain Come On Over (6)
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Post by Acid Eyes on Oct 10, 2007 20:19:44 GMT -5
Most Weeks in Top 10 - 2007 Billboard Year
Big Girls Don't Cry* 20 Girlfriend 18 Buy U a Drank (Shawty Snappin') 17 The Sweet Escape 15 The Way I Are* 15 Hey There Delilah 14 Irreplaceable 14 Say It Right 14 Umbrella 14 Don't Matter 13 Glamorous 13 I Wanna Love You 13
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2007 20:21:46 GMT -5
The 7 songs that have lasted 58 weeks or longer on the Hot 100 are:
69 weeks: "How Do I Live," LeAnn Rimes (1997) 65 weeks: "You Were Meant for Me" / "Foolish Games," Jewel (1997) 62 weeks: "You and Me," Lifehouse (2005) 60 weeks: "Macarena" (Bayside Boys Mix), Los Del Rio (1996) 58 weeks: "Smooth," Santana featuring Rob Thomas (1999) 58 weeks: "How to Save a Life," The Fray (2006) 58 weeks: "Before He Cheats," Carrie Underwood (2007)
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Post by mst3k on Oct 11, 2007 19:30:58 GMT -5
Pulled from ukmix Most top 40 hits one album Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation (7) Michael Jackson Bad (7) Michael Jackson Thriller (7) Michael Jackson Dangerous (7) Bruce Springsteen Born in the U.S.A. (7) Bryan Adams Reckless (6) Def Leppard Hysteria (6) Footloose (6) Janet Jackson janet. (6) Janet Jackson Control (6) Billy Joel An Innocent Man (6) George Michael Faith (6) Justin Timberlake FutureSex / LoveSounds (6) Shania Twain Come On Over (6) They missed the Urban Cowboy soundtrack, which spawned six Top 40 hits in 1980 (the first album ever to produce that many hits): Joe Walsh, "All Night Long" Anne Murray, "Could I Have This Dance" Boz Scaggs, "Look What You've Done To Me" Johnny Lee, "Lookin' For Love" Kenny Rogers, "Love The World Away" Mickey Gilley, "Stand By Me"
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