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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2009 23:35:10 GMT -5
Updated longest runs in the Hot 100 Weeks On Chart, Title, Artist, Peak Year 69, "How Do I Live," LeAnn Rimes, 1997 65, "Foolish Games/You Were Meant for Me," Jewel, 1997 64, "Before He Cheats," LeAnn Rimes, 2007 62, "You and Me," Lifehouse, 2005 60, "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)," Los Del Rio, 1996 59, "I'm Yours", Jason Mraz, 2009 Most weeks top 75 Digital sales chart 74 Yeah!, Usher Featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris 74 Since U Been Gone, Kelly Clarkson 68 Don't Cha, The Pussycat Dolls 67 Don't Stop Believin', Journey *62 Mr. Brightside, The Killers 61 Let's Get It Started, The Black Eyed Peas 61 Dirty Little Secret, The All-American Rejects 61 You And Me, Lifehouse 60 Before He Cheats, Carrie Underwood 59 I'm Yours, Jason Mraz** currently charting i believe jason has reach 67 weeks for both category lol. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 9:21:58 GMT -5
On the digital chart
I'm Yours has 65 Don't Stop Believin is at 69
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 9:28:24 GMT -5
Longest running albums in the top 10 of the BB200 - 2000-present 1 Fallen , Evanescence 43 2 Confessions , Usher 41 3 Human Clay , Creed 38 4 Let Go ,Avril Lavigne 37 5 Come Away With Me, Norah Jones 36 6 The Emancipation Of Mimi, Mariah Carey 34 7 Human Clay, Creed 33* (38 total - 5 weeks in1999) 8 [Hybrid Theory], Linkin Park 32 9 Fearless,Taylor Swift 31 10 Some Hearts, Carrie Underwood 30 11 Fearless,Taylor Swift 30 12 All The Right Reasons, Nickelback 29 13 Monkey Business, The Black Eyed Peas 28 14 No Strings Attached, NSync 27 15 Daughtry, Daughtry 27 16 Get Rich Or Die Tryin', 50 Cent 27 17 The Eminem Show, Eminem 26 18 Supernatural, Santana 26 19 Home, Dixie Chicks 26 wow this looks like my list The Taylor Swift update would come with an asterisk I think This album has not been in the actual top 10 since the 7-4 chart and even this week is at #12
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 9:46:21 GMT -5
Actual run in the top 10 for 'Fearless' = 28
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 10:37:54 GMT -5
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 10:39:43 GMT -5
Actual run in the top 10 for 'Fearless' = 31
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 10:49:42 GMT -5
It is the 12th best selling album of the week.
Last time I checked you need to be at least the 10th best selling album of the week to be considered top10
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 10:51:31 GMT -5
It is the 12th best selling album of the week. Last time I checked you need to be at least the 10th best selling album of the week to be considered top10 Considering your list specifically dealt with the Billboard 200 and not the comprehensive chart, Fearless has officially logged 31 weeks, regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 10:57:46 GMT -5
LOL - at the time I started that, the top 10 of the Billboard 200 was almost always the actual top 10.
Now the 10 best selling albums of the week and the "official top 10" are quite different with regularity. So that statistic should be reconsidered.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 10:59:17 GMT -5
Longest time spent among the 10 best selling albums of the week - 2000-present
1 Fallen , Evanescence 43 2 Confessions , Usher 41 3 Human Clay , Creed 38 4 Let Go ,Avril Lavigne 37 5 Come Away With Me, Norah Jones 36 6 The Emancipation Of Mimi, Mariah Carey 34 7 Human Clay, Creed 33* (38 total - 5 weeks in1999) 8 [Hybrid Theory], Linkin Park 32 9 Fearless,Taylor Swift 31 10 Some Hearts, Carrie Underwood 29 11 All The Right Reasons, Nickelback 29 12 Fearless,Taylor Swift 28 13 Monkey Business, The Black Eyed Peas 28 14 No Strings Attached, NSync 27 15 Daughtry, Daughtry 27 16 Get Rich Or Die Tryin', 50 Cent 27 17 The Eminem Show, Eminem 26 18 Supernatural, Santana 26 19 Home, Dixie Chicks 26
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 11:00:18 GMT -5
'Some Hearts' loses 1 week because of Il Divo in 2006 'Fearless' loses 3 weeks due to Michael Jackson
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Post by yosafbridge on Jul 30, 2009 11:24:58 GMT -5
It is the 12th best selling album of the week. Last time I checked you need to be at least the 10th best selling album of the week to be considered top10 Considering your list specifically dealt with the Billboard 200 and not the comprehensive chart, Fearless has officially logged 31 weeks, regardless. This. 2m's list has always been official BB200. Why change now?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 11:31:20 GMT -5
Fearless has spent 31 weeks in the top 10 of the Billboard 200 and Some Hearts has spent 30 weeks in the top 10. You may not consider it "right" but the fact is inarguable. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 11:45:01 GMT -5
The "official BB200" is the official what?
A representation of the best selling albums of the week? No. I think everyone knows that.
I concur that on the chart that represents new and current albums only, Fearless spent 31 weeks on the top 10 and Some Hearts spent 30 weeks in the top 10.
When you look at the overall picture and consider ACTUAL best sellers, you get slightly different numbers
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 11:52:23 GMT -5
When you look at the overall picture and consider ACTUAL best sellers, you get slightly different numbers Well you weren't posting or compiling a comprehensive list in this thread previous to today. Why is it just an issue now? Light bulb moment?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 11:54:17 GMT -5
I have posted no updates at all since the Michael Jackson thing began
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 11:56:29 GMT -5
In part because Taylor Swift really hasn't been in the top 10
We all know the BB200 is not a true representation of album popularity. Both lists are valid, depends on what you want to look at. If you subscribe to the theory that catalog titles do not exist then BB200 is the chart. If #1 is #1 regardless of age, then Comprehensive is the chart
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 11:58:18 GMT -5
I have posted no updates at all since the Michael Jackson thing began You posted Some Heart's had obtained 30 weeks in the top 10 prior to the Michael Jackson event which you just now corrected (which proves you had not considered the "overall picture" before the event either).
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 12:01:47 GMT -5
It's just funny to me that you're criticizing a chart which you obviously had interest in previously along with the list that you yourself compiled.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 12:03:08 GMT -5
At that point, it was just the 3rd title in 15 years to make it to the top 10 as a catalog title. At that point, an anomaly
Now that it is happening with regularity, we need to look at again.
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Post by WotUNeed on Jul 30, 2009 12:07:50 GMT -5
Why don't you both just maintain both lists? They're both interesting and just represent different things. Not getting why there's an argument about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 12:10:07 GMT -5
That's what I said - BOTH LISTS ARE VALID
The one you like depends on whether or not like the BB200 or the Comprehensive chart
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 12:10:11 GMT -5
Now that it is happening with regularity, we need to look at again. Who is "we"? There are rules and regulations for the Billboard 200 which may prevent certain albums from charting (this is not new information). You can choose to follow a comprehensive list and "believe" certain albums don't "deserve" their top 10 placement on the Billboard 200 but I'd rather follow the list you originally created. It's much more interesting to me and it was the chart I was originally referring to. With that said, this list is 100% accurate: Longest running albums in the top 10 of the BB200 - 2000-present 1 Fallen , Evanescence 43 2 Confessions , Usher 41 3 Human Clay , Creed 38 4 Let Go ,Avril Lavigne 37 5 Come Away With Me, Norah Jones 36 6 The Emancipation Of Mimi, Mariah Carey 34 7 Human Clay, Creed 33* (38 total - 5 weeks in1999) 8 [Hybrid Theory], Linkin Park 32 9 Fearless,Taylor Swift 31 10 Some Hearts, Carrie Underwood 30 11 All The Right Reasons, Nickelback 29 12 Monkey Business, The Black Eyed Peas 28 13 No Strings Attached, NSync 27 14 Daughtry, Daughtry 27 15 Get Rich Or Die Tryin', 50 Cent 27 16 The Eminem Show, Eminem 26 17 Supernatural, Santana 26 18 Home, Dixie Chicks 26
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 12:12:13 GMT -5
That's what I said - BOTH LISTS ARE VALID The one you like depends on whether or not like the BB200 or the Comprehensive chart
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 12:15:19 GMT -5
If catalog titles do not exist in the realm of popular music, then BB200 is the chart
If catalog titles do exist in the realm of popular music (and I believe they do) then Comprehensive is the chart.
Catalog titles are going to become more prominent in the future as new and current titles continue to decline more rapidly than the older titles.
The gap is closing and it won't take the death of a major 80's star to send a catalog title to #1 next time.
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Post by yosafbridge on Jul 30, 2009 12:15:26 GMT -5
When you look at the overall picture and consider ACTUAL best sellers, you get slightly different numbers Well you weren't posting or compiling a comprehensive list in this thread previous to today. Why is it just an issue now? Light bulb moment? Exactly.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 12:18:55 GMT -5
If catalog titles do not exist in the realm of popular music, then BB200 is the chart If catalog titles do exist in the realm of popular music (and I believe they do) then Comprehensive is the chart. Catalog titles are going to become more prominent in the future as new and current titles continue to decline more rapidly than the older titles. The gap is closing and it won't take the death of a major 80's star to send a catalog title to #1 next time. Basically you said Fearless needed to have an asterisk beside of it because it had not actually spent 31 weeks in the top 10. However, in the list you quoted Fearless did have 31 weeks on, hence the asterisk was not needed. Simply put, you were wrong. If the list you quoted had been "the best selling albums of the week" the result might have been different.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 12:19:32 GMT -5
see above posts for response
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 12:20:38 GMT -5
If catalog titles do not exist in the realm of popular music, then BB200 is the chart If catalog titles do exist in the realm of popular music (and I believe they do) then Comprehensive is the chart. Catalog titles are going to become more prominent in the future as new and current titles continue to decline more rapidly than the older titles. The gap is closing and it won't take the death of a major 80's star to send a catalog title to #1 next time. Basically you said Fearless needed to have an asterisk beside of it because it had not actually spent 31 weeks in the top 10. However, the list in which the album was featured Fearless did have 31 weeks on, hence the asterisk was not needed. Let's put it in more basic terms. What is the #1 album this week? How do you define it?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 30, 2009 12:24:55 GMT -5
Let's put it in more basic terms. What is the #1 album this week? How do you define it? It doesn't matter. I wasn't speaking of the comprehensive chart (nor was your list) when you quoted my initial post and said it needed correcting (which it didn't).
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