10/1/04 CHR/Pop Chart

[mst3k]

MikeK102 said:

It will be close.

Eminem is a sure bet to be in the Top 50 by tomorrow night.

Yeah, I wasn't expecting Eminem to impact that quickly... how shocked I was when I checked Mediabase today! :o

[Love Plastic Love]

mst3k said:

Yeah, I wasn't expecting Eminem to impact that quickly... how shocked I was when I checked Mediabase today!  :o

Same here. I checked early this morning and expected him to have maybe 50-100 spins. So I checked everywhere for him and couldnt find it. I was confused thinking, surely he has at least 1-2 spins...but I realized my mistake was not looking high enough. Already at #53 :eek:

[friend]

That new Eminem song is crap. It's cool to see Britney has a consistent bullet around +900. If she maintains this, she'll surely make top 20. Destiny's Child is doing what I thought...almost in the top 10. They have a quick rise, quick fall scenario. Eminem will be top 30 within three or four days, peak quickly, then drop like a doormatt.

[Deleted]

Eminem is now #42 with a +1109 bullet. Britney is #31 with +945. Destiny's Child is #10 with +1495. These bullets are too high. They're pulling all the life out of the rest of the chart.

[Castlevania]

I'm thinking that "My Prerogative" could have a run similar to "Everytime". It is taking its time yet still gaining quite a lot. "Lose My Breath" will end up with a quick rise and fall like you've all said. And as for "Just Lose It", if this isn't the most obvious case of playing a song just because of hype this one is it. It's truly the worst song of the year by an artist.

[msanoja]

Castlevania said:

And as for "Just Lose It", if this isn't the most obvious case of playing a song just because of hype this one is it.

I agree; I expected something a lot better from him.

[Ragin]

Hollyweird said:

I agree; I expected something a lot better from him.

Same here. I'm not an Eminem fan, but I've been able to appreciate his talents and his hits have been by and large pretty good songs save for the D12 stuff. This song seems like garbage to me though.

[Jens]

Wow at Eminem! He is moving faster than DC did 3 weeks ago. He will have a 3500 bullet or something if this continues!

I'm very glad that DC managed to get into the Top 10 in their 3rd week! As the other bullets are down, this is the strongest #1 contender right now IMO.

[jmason]

The new Britney is trash! Outrageous was much better. This song will probally fall very fast.

Didn't "I Will Always Love You" get the record for the fast rise to #1, with like 3 weeks? Did it also take 2 weeks to get to the top 10?

"Lose Your Breath" 41-23-10 :o

[Gold Soundz]

Please god let Maroon 5 keep falling. Avril REALLY deserves a number one with this song and if a few stations bump her up to high rotation for another week, next Sunday she could be number one.

[irice22]

danjaseeka said:

Please god let Maroon 5 keep falling. Avril REALLY deserves a number one with this song and if a few stations bump her up to high rotation for another week, next Sunday she could be number one.

I agree, and it just wouldn't look good with a bunch of #1 hits and then a #2 hit!

[HER MINAJesty]

Eminem is at #42! :o

I don't think he will be Top 40 at the final update, but he might

[HER MINAJesty]

Jmanmusicfan said:

"Lose Your Breath" 41-23-10 :o

Is this some kind of record?  What were the last few songs to repeat that kind of run?

I hope DC is #9 at the final update but it doesn't look like they will

[No Brake$]

i remember the following songs having huge runs into the top 5 as well:

95- Rembrandts- I'll Be There For You
95- Dionne Farris- I Know
95- Boyz II Men & Mariah Carey- One Sweet Day
97- Chumbawamba- Tubthumping
98 Madonna- Frozen
98- Natalie Imbruglia- Torn (I may be wrong on this)
98- Alanis Morissette- Thank U
99- Backstreet Boys- Show Me The Meaning
00- N'Sync- Bye Bye Bye
01- Christina Aguilera- Lady Marmelade
02- Christina Aguilera- Beautiful

[chebingeo]

My Heart Will Go On went 24-11-7

[The Music Man]

I'm finding it a bit hard to believe that our next #1 could be Lose My Breath. Not that it's not good enough...it's really cool and one of my favorite tracks on the chart, but holy crap, already?! However, it will be a few weeks, they're still thousands of spins behind Maroon 5, Avril and Ashlee.

I'm not even going to comment on Eminem's song already pushing for the Top 40 after two friggin' days.

I don't see Tilt Ya Head Back lasting too long, honestly. It's a bland song and I could see it making the Top 20, then free-falling.

Car Wash didn't last too long.

Go Three Days Grace!

[Mega248]

Looks like Eminem will end up at #41 on this week's chart, so look for him to have one of the highest top 40 debuts in a long time next week.

[Dan G.]

Mega248 said:

Looks like Eminem will end up at #41 on this week's chart, so look for him to have one of the highest top 40 debuts in a long time next week.

Actually, I doubt it will be as high as Destiny's Child, which debuted at #23 last week.

--DanG

[Mega248]

DanG82 said:

Actually, I doubt it will be as high as Destiny's Child, which debuted at #23 last week.

--DanG

I think it could very easily debut higher than that. In the past 24 hours, the song has gained 630 spins, equal to a weekly spin gain of +4410.

[Dan G.]

Three Top-40 Debuts:
Britney Spears - My Prerogative (#30)
Simple Plan - Welcome To My Life (#39)
Trick Daddy Featuring Lil Jon & Twista - Let's Go (2004) (#40)

Three Top-50 Debuts:
Eminem - Just Lose It (#41)
Christina Milian Featuring Joe Budden - Whatever You Want (#44)
Gavin DeGraw - I Don't Want To Be (#46)

Top Five New & Active:
LL Cool J - Headsprung (#52)
Three Days Grace - Just Like You (#54)
Crossfade - Cold (#55)
N.O.R.E. Featuring Nina Sky - Oye Mi Canto (#61)
Nelly Featuring Tim McGraw - Over And Over (#62)

Top Five Most-Increased Plays:
Destiny's Child - Lose My Breath (+1509)
Eminem - Just Lose It (+1125)
Britney Spears - My Prerogative (+950)
Ciara Featuring Petey deleted - Goodies (+664)
Kelly Clarkson - Breakaway (+499)

Top Five Most-Played Recurrents:
Hoobastank - The Reason (3094)
Usher Featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris - Yeah! (2968)
Switchfoot - Meant To Live (2581)
Maroon5 - This Love (1800)
Los Lonely Boys - Heaven (1555)


--DanG

[Keith3000]

Just said:

Is this some kind of record?� What were the last few songs to repeat that kind of run?

Yeah, that's one fast rise! Only second week in the Top 40 and already in the Top 10. We can be pretty sure LMB will be the next #1 after Avril (if she does go all the way...if not it may replace Maroon 5).

[krazymack]

Jens said:

I'm very glad that DC managed to get into the Top 10 in their 3rd week! As the other bullets are down, this is the strongest #1 contender right now IMO.

Exactly, I agree wholeheartedly.

[Libra]

DanG82 said:

Three Top-50 Debuts:
Gavin DeGraw - I Don't Want To Be (#46)

This is a re-entry.

[GordonUM]

"Lose My Breath" is the first song in 6 years to go top 10 in its second week in the top 40.

The only songs since 1989 to do this are:

Alanis Morissette - Thank U (1998): 22-10-8-5-2-2-2-1-3-4-7-11-22-31-39-46
Mariah Carey - Fantasy (1995): 45-16-9-6-3-3-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-4-5-8-8-11-14-20-24-27-31-34-37-43-47
Madonna - Secret (1994): 30-8-3-3-3-3-2-2-3-4-5-7-16-23-29-36-37
Luther Vandross & Mariah Carey - Endless Love (1994): 18-9-7-6-6-7-9-13-17-29
Mariah Carey - Without You (1994): 30-10-5-4-3-2-2-2-2-3-5-8-6-7-7-12-15-20-34
Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You (1992): 23-9-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-8-17-25-34

Since the chart became a top 50 in 1995, Alanis is the only one to go top 10 in their second week in the top 50.

In addition to "Fantasy" and "Lose My Breath", other songs have made the top 10 in their third week in the top 50, but it was also their third week in the top 40. Here they are:
'N Sync - Pop (2001): 26-11-8-6-5-5-7-11-15-19-24
Janet - All For You (2001): 27-14-8-7-4-4-2-1-1-1-2-3-4-4-5-7-11-16-20-21
'N Sync - Bye Bye Bye (2000): 35-17-10-6-4-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-5-9-16-20
Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way (1999): 31-15-10-7-7-7-4-4-3-2-2-2-1-1-1-3-4-4-6-10-11-17
Ricky Martin - Livin' La Vida Loca (1999): 31-13-10-4-4-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-4-6-9-16-21-28
Hootie & the Blowfish - Old Man & Me (When I Get To Heaven) (1996): 19-12-7-8-6-5-5-6-6-5-9-8-16-23-26-30-41-? (don't have full top 50 records but I know they debuted at #19)
Janet Jackson - Runaway (1995): 33-14-10-7-4-4-4-4-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-7-9-13-17-25-32-36-45-42-45
TLC - Waterfalls (1995): 32-18-8-8-3-2-2-3-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-6-8-11-11-16-19-26-29-36-35-41-42-50
Rembrandts - I'll Be There For You (1995): 27-12-5-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-4-6-7-13-18-19-24-25-30-34-36-44-48-49-50

Since 1989, Whitney's three-week rise is the fastest climb to #1 in the top 40, and the Rembrandts' four-week climb is the fastest for the top 50.

Only three other songs since 1989 have hit the top in their fourth week in the top 40 (and all of them came before the chart was a top 50). They are:
Janet Jackson - Again (1993): 36-19-4-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-7-12-21-32
Mariah Carey - Dreamlover (1993): 38-15-8-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-6-12-18-30
Madonna - This Used To Be My Playground (1992): 21-12-10-1-1-1-1-4-11-26-31

[HER MINAJesty]

So is it safe to say Lose My Breath is already one of the biggest and will end up as probably in the Top 3 biggest songs of 2004?

[chebingeo]

GordonUM said:

In addition to "Fantasy" and "Lose My Breath", other songs have made the top 10 in their third week in the top 50, but it was also their third week in the top 40. Here they are:
'N Sync - Pop (2001): 26-11-8-6-5-5-7-11-15-19-24
Janet - All For You (2001): 27-14-8-7-4-4-2-1-1-1-2-3-4-4-5-7-11-16-20-21
'N Sync - Bye Bye Bye (2000): 35-17-10-6-4-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-5-9-16-20
Backstreet Boys - I Want It That Way (1999): 31-15-10-7-7-7-4-4-3-2-2-2-1-1-1-3-4-4-6-10-11-17
Ricky Martin - Livin' La Vida Loca (1999): 31-13-10-4-4-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-4-6-9-16-21-28
Hootie & the Blowfish - Old Man & Me (When I Get To Heaven) (1996): 19-12-7-8-6-5-5-6-6-5-9-8-16-23-26-30-41-? (don't have full top 50 records but I know they debuted at #19)
Janet Jackson - Runaway (1995): 33-14-10-7-4-4-4-4-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-7-9-13-17-25-32-36-45-42-45
TLC - Waterfalls (1995): 32-18-8-8-3-2-2-3-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-6-8-11-11-16-19-26-29-36-35-41-42-50
Rembrandts - I'll Be There For You (1995): 27-12-5-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-3-4-6-7-13-18-19-24-25-30-34-36-44-48-49-50

Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On (1998): 24-11-7-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-5-5-9-14-23-32-40-43-47-50

[Keith3000]

Just said:

So is it safe to say Lose My Breath is already one of the biggest and will end up as probably in the Top 3 biggest songs of 2004?

I'm confused -- are you talking about the 2004 year end chart? That's impossible with only two months left in the chart year. It probably won't even make the year end Top 30.

[Matt4319]

Keith3000 said:

I'm confused -- are you talking about the 2004 year end chart? That's impossible with only two months left in the chart year. It probably won't even make the year end Top 30.

Yeah, that'd be like calling "Lose Yourself" one of the three biggest songs of 2002.

[GordonUM]

chebingeo said:

Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On (1998): 24-11-7-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-5-5-9-14-23-32-40-43-47-50

Sorry if I was unclear, but I was listing songs that reached the top 10 in their third week in the top 50, not just the top 40. Celine actually spent two weeks in the top 50 before hitting the top 40, since the song didn't take off until the movie came out. If we're including all songs that went top 10 in their third week in the top 40, we'd have to also add:

Top 50 era (all had a week in the top 50 before entering the top 40):
"Lady Marmalade"
"Show Me The Meaning Of Being Lonely"
"Frozen"
"Kiss From A Rose"

PPW, pre-Top 50 era
"water Runs Dry"
"Take A Bow"
"On Bended Knee"
"I'll Make Love To You"

pre-PPW: too many to list

[HER MINAJesty]

Keith3000 said:

I'm confused -- are you talking about the 2004 year end chart? That's impossible with only two months left in the chart year. It probably won't even make the year end Top 30.

No...I knew someone would think thats what I meant

I meant just in terms of like the Billboard Year End Hot 100 or just in terms of the calendar year, Jan 1 to Dec. 31, 2004, what were the biggest overall songs.