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Post by musicmania001 on Nov 22, 2006 19:26:36 GMT -5
I think jennifer holliday is just upset that jennifer hudson did such a great job! she has alway's been quite upset whn people sung this song.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Nov 24, 2006 15:18:32 GMT -5
This leaked.
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Post by beeiloveya: THE YONKAZ on Nov 24, 2006 15:20:51 GMT -5
only the promo cd has leaked so far.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Nov 24, 2006 15:33:19 GMT -5
a promo CD with 16 tracks?
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Post by currentoptions on Nov 24, 2006 15:35:21 GMT -5
It was strange that JH did not mention Holliday when she was on Oprah. She said that Mahalia Jackson and her grandmother were her inspirations for singing the song.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Nov 24, 2006 15:42:26 GMT -5
only the promo cd has leaked so far. oh you're right, it was a promo haha. my bad.
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Post by sunpeach on Nov 24, 2006 18:19:30 GMT -5
I do feel bad for Holliday and she is right, she did help create the role in that she fought for it to be a co-star instead of supporting - but it's not like she wasn't rewarded- she got a TONY award the highest honor you can get. And her performance is the greatest TV performance I have EVER seen- it's on youtube- WOW! And I'm sure she hoped to star in the movie and get an oscar and what-not- and I'm surprised Jennifer did not mention Holliday, though I wonder if she is being told not to- because she has before- and yes, she is copying her performance- but I love Hudson and want her to win everything- it's all sad, I don't know what to think! I mean, what's wrong with just being a Broadway actress? Why do they seem to base all their worth or whether they can be huge recording and movie artists? And she had a TOP 40 hit with that song- some people would love to have a TONY and what-not- why can't she just be grateful for what she did get instead of what she didn't- she got alot more than most people!
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Post by Bri.I.Am on Nov 24, 2006 18:21:50 GMT -5
where can i find the link to the promo!!!
im sooo AMPED for this ishhh!
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Post by Eu on Nov 25, 2006 1:12:20 GMT -5
where can i find the link to the promo!!! im sooo AMPED for this ishhh! Please~~ I so damn wanna get this too! Plsease PM me! I I will go buy this one when it's out, but I really wanna hear this now! Thanks a lot!
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Post by reception on Dec 5, 2006 16:51:44 GMT -5
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Dec 5, 2006 20:50:57 GMT -5
Has anyone actually seen the Deluxe Edition in the stores? I went to a couple of them earlier and they acted like I was from another planet! I want it for the additional remix of "And I'm Telling You" that is on CD2.
Any by the way, what is the price breakdown on the Deluxe Edition?
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Post by shannonk68 on Dec 5, 2006 21:15:34 GMT -5
the entire album can be heard on AOL first listen music.aol.com/songs/new_releases_full_cdsIt's amazing! Well considering Jennifer Hudson was an infant when Holliday played Effie on Broadway and Jennifer Hudson has said many many times in interviews that she'd never seen the play I'm not sure how you mimic something you've never seen. Sounds to me like Holliday is bitter and perhaps a tiny bit afraid that Jennifer Hudson might become the iconic figure of Effie White replacing her in that role. Seasons come and go on performers and Holliday gave kick ass performances as Effie...that youtube of the Tony's is crazy !! But the question is, exactly what kind of "role" could she have been given in the film? It's based on a play so it's not like there are disposible characters that can just randomly be thrown in without messing up the integrity of the original concept. But...but...but...to hear Simon Cowel tell it IDOL is responsible for Jennifer Hudson's career! When do you suppose either Jennifer Holliday OR American Idol came into JHud's room and transplanted that unbelievably amazing thrilling voice into her? As for Holliday "creating" effie, I guess I missed her credit as Co-Writer of Dreamgirls and she certainly has no writing credit on AITY so I'm confused by these over grand statements of creation. Sounds like sour grapes to me.... JMHO of course....
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Post by jewel88 on Dec 5, 2006 23:08:00 GMT -5
Where did I say holliday should have a role in this film or should have been given a role? No where. She said that since they were originally using her voice to promote the movie people thought she'd be starring in the movie. That's an honest mistake.
Anyway the interview as about three weeks ago, you are either slow to respond or just bored tonight and are digging up this old post.
But I can understand how holliday would be bitter. She had an interview yesterday where she was "uninvited" to the premiere. But that's okay she can look at her tony's and grammy for the song and KNOW that she was queen first, anything after is just a copy.
Anyway, I've got free tickets to see dreamgirls and I'll be going next week and will give my review of everyone.
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Post by XXIX on Dec 5, 2006 23:22:50 GMT -5
After the way she was acting why would anyone invite her?
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Post by sunpeach on Dec 6, 2006 2:38:32 GMT -5
She was "uninvited"- she must be making trouble for that- that is sad.
Anyway, I have the album- Jennifer's version is a bit different from Holliday's= it's not a total copy- Hudson has different variations in it- she is still really great- especially the end, I like that- except for those chords the music has at the very end- don't like that.
It seems like Hudson is bowling them over- can't wait to to see the movie. I can't believe that Fantasia Barrino was almost offered the role- that would have been a disaster. Can you imagine-
You're the best man I've ever known, yeah, yeah, yeah there's no way I will ever go, yeah, yeah, yeah There's no way, no way I've living without you, yeah, yeah, yeah not living without you, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to be free, yeah yeah yeah I'm staying, yeah I'm staying and you and you and you you're going to love me, yeah yeah yeah
I shudder at the thought.
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Post by sydneyp on Dec 6, 2006 7:45:26 GMT -5
No more a disaster than if it had been Alicia Keys or Latoya London. They wanted a big dark skinned actress with a big voice, like Holiday, and Hudson really was perfect, I think. If anyone, Fantasia would have been better for the Deena role; she can definitely handle the singing part, but I'm not sure about the acting (although, I don't consider Beyonce much of an actress either, but I hear she does well in this role).
I listened to the CD on AOL. Hudson does a great job with AIATY, but I don't think it's better than the original. Holiday's got this depth to her voice that Hudson doesn't have (I thought Hudson had it, but it doesn't come through on the song). Plus, Holiday seems to really feel the words, while it sounds like Hudson is just singing them (which is something I noticed about her on Idol; great pipes, but the emotion wasn't always there).
I'd love to see if Hudson can do this live; it's a hard song to sing live. I can understand why they've been having Beyonce do the promo with Listen so far (they probably want Hudson's first introduction to be on the screen, for impact), but once the movie comes out, there should be no reason why we don't see her performing it live - there will definitely be demand for it, because of the rave reviews for her performance in the movie, which are well deserved, at least from the soundtrack. It's a great soundtrack, though!
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Post by sunpeach on Dec 6, 2006 8:31:22 GMT -5
Matt Drudge must really like Jennifer- he puts up every good review on the movie and he keeps putting her picture up- he has two more up now. And he keeps spotlighting her, I have not seen him act this way with a newcomer before.
I agree about Holliday having a bit more depth to her voice and the song. But I liked the way they sort of changed it with Jennifer- made it more like an expression of agony - those last few bars are something else- she is literally screaming the roof off- and I'm sure it will be different watching it. Holiday sounded more defiant while Jennifer sounds more in "pain." They are both good versions and I was worried about Hudson's version, and maybe it's not as good as Holliday, but it's darn close, which is all anyone can ask for-
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Post by JayBoozer on Dec 6, 2006 10:16:11 GMT -5
Comparing Jennifer Holiday's performance at the White House with Jennifer Hudson's recorded track, Jennifer Hudson BLOWS Holiday's performance out of the water. She hits notes that are MUCH higher (probably because the key she sings it in is a full whole step higher than the key Holiday sang it in) than any notes Holiday hits, and her adlibs are better imo.
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Post by SWEET DREAMS on Dec 6, 2006 10:24:23 GMT -5
Comparing Jennifer Holiday's performance at the White House with Jennifer Hudson's recorded track, Jennifer Hudson BLOWS Holiday's performance out of the water. She hits notes that are MUCH higher (probably because the key she sings it in is a full whole step higher than the key Holiday sang it in) than any notes Holiday hits, and her adlibs are better imo. Exactly. That's why there is a special place in my heart for Hudson's version right next to Hollidays. I think Hudson blew it out the park. I saw the movie a month ago at a press screening. Wait till you see her do it on screen. If you don't have a tear in your eye than your a frigid person. lol. When she hits those high notes boy they just hit you in the gut. Holliday did more growling and grunting while Hudson hits more high notes and cries out. It works both ways I think. I love Hudson's rendition.
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Post by colson on Dec 6, 2006 10:46:07 GMT -5
You all got me very excited about this movie!!
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 6, 2006 10:50:48 GMT -5
Well, Jennifer Holliday just spoke out live on Inside Edition and flat out said that Jennifer Hudson is copying mimicking her entire performance of "And I'm telling you", no it won't hurt the film but I do think her speaking up will hurt Hudson's chance at winning an Oscar for the role (that and the fact that she's not really acting in the movie, she's singing most of the time). Why does the fact that she's singing mean she isn't acting?
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Post by SWEET DREAMS on Dec 6, 2006 11:05:43 GMT -5
Well, Jennifer Holliday just spoke out live on Inside Edition and flat out said that Jennifer Hudson is copying mimicking her entire performance of "And I'm telling you", no it won't hurt the film but I do think her speaking up will hurt Hudson's chance at winning an Oscar for the role (that and the fact that she's not really acting in the movie, she's singing most of the time). Why does the fact that she's singing mean she isn't acting? only u, you obviously have not seen the film. Jennifer DOES act while she's singing. In fact a lot of the singing in the movie advances the story line so the characters are not singing just to sing. It has a point to it. Secondly, Jennifer Holliday needs to go sit somewhere with her bitter ass. Yes, she is the original but she needs to stop acting like she owns the freaking play. When they remade Hamlet did they go seek out the original members and the same thing with the movie version of Chicago. I'm sick of her damn whining. Holliday's ranting comes across as pathetic and I don't think it will have any major impact on Oscar votes in the long run. That's part of the reason she was not at the NY premiere cause she keeps talking junk. Who knows what would of came out her mouth on the red carpet. She had her time, this is Dreamgirls the movie version not the stage play. GET.OVER. IT!
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Post by rdh: THE YONKAZ! on Dec 6, 2006 11:09:57 GMT -5
They should have given the originsl Dreams a cameo at least.
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Post by jewel88 on Dec 6, 2006 11:10:33 GMT -5
Well, Jennifer Holliday just spoke out live on Inside Edition and flat out said that Jennifer Hudson is copying mimicking her entire performance of "And I'm telling you", no it won't hurt the film but I do think her speaking up will hurt Hudson's chance at winning an Oscar for the role (that and the fact that she's not really acting in the movie, she's singing most of the time). Why does the fact that she's singing mean she isn't acting? There comes a time when just agreeing with the popular vote makes it easier to have an opinion. So let me just agree with you ALL. Her singing IS acting and will win her an Oscar. Her voice just makes you melt and she's not only the best thing in this movie but she's the best contestant that american idol has ever seen 5 seasons combined. Her version simply blows Jennifer Holliday (who's that) out of the water, people will be say Holliday who? When her album is released it will go on to be the highest selling idol album of all time and will garner her the whitney houston crown (which clive hired her for to take whitney's crown) in which she will use to become the first black female president, after sweeping the grammy awards in 2008 for her debut album, including song, record album, BNA, R & B vocal performance, Pop vocal performance. She will then take time off to star opposite Will Smith in her first none performing acting role. After which she will be denzil's leading lady of which will get her a leading acting Oscar. How's that. I'm on the popular side. IT is easier to just praise her because when you are in the minority people tend to pick your posts out. Seriously this feels better then downing people. She's done good.
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Post by sunpeach on Dec 6, 2006 11:52:31 GMT -5
Comparing Jennifer Holiday's performance at the White House with Jennifer Hudson's recorded track, Jennifer Hudson BLOWS Holiday's performance out of the water. She hits notes that are MUCH higher (probably because the key she sings it in is a full whole step higher than the key Holiday sang it in) than any notes Holiday hits, and her adlibs are better imo. That performance at the White House was awful- I have that- terrible- she turns it into a "lounge singer" type performance- I mean, that was bad- you can't compare that to her Tony performance which is in a different ballpark.
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 6, 2006 11:56:26 GMT -5
This soundtrack is crap. What a waste of a perfect Broadway show/soundtrack.
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Post by sunpeach on Dec 6, 2006 11:58:06 GMT -5
They should have given the originsl Dreams a cameo at least. They did- at least the one who plays Lorell or whatever her name is- I suspect they thought about Holliday and Ralph too but I have a feeling something happened- Ralph is a big mouth but I bet something went down behind the scenes about it. At any rate, Jennifer is going to get an Oscar nomination- have you people seen these reviews? They are practically handing it to her now. It will be IMPOSSIBLE she is not nominated- and just to be nominated! That is such an honor! She will definitely win unless a backlash sets in- she's going to win an Oscar! Wow!
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Post by Fool_4_Music on Dec 6, 2006 12:39:27 GMT -5
This soundtrack is crap. What a waste of a perfect Broadway show/soundtrack. Crap? LOL. Hardly. It's a nice update on the original. All the performances are superb...who knew Eddie Murphy was so talented
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Post by JayBoozer on Dec 6, 2006 12:51:08 GMT -5
Why does the fact that she's singing mean she isn't acting? There comes a time when just agreeing with the popular vote makes it easier to have an opinion. So let me just agree with you ALL. Her singing IS acting and will win her an Oscar. Her voice just makes you melt and she's not only the best thing in this movie but she's the best contestant that american idol has ever seen 5 seasons combined. Her version simply blows Jennifer Holliday (who's that) out of the water, people will be say Holliday who? When her album is released it will go on to be the highest selling idol album of all time and will garner her the whitney houston crown (which clive hired her for to take whitney's crown) in which she will use to become the first black female president, after sweeping the grammy awards in 2008 for her debut album, including song, record album, BNA, R & B vocal performance, Pop vocal performance. She will then take time off to star opposite Will Smith in her first none performing acting role. After which she will be denzil's leading lady of which will get her a leading acting Oscar. How's that. I'm on the popular side. IT is easier to just praise her because when you are in the minority people tend to pick your posts out. Seriously this feels better then downing people. She's done good. I actually agree with you that she is the best contestant that American Idol has ever produced after hearing "And I Am Telling You..." Why she never soared this high on American Idol, I have no idea, but I do remember she was my favorite contestant from season 3. And I specifically remember thinking that her singing performance oozed drama and acting ability.
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Post by Fool_4_Music on Dec 6, 2006 12:59:31 GMT -5
Yeah...I too was rooting for Hudson on Season 3...and after she left the competition I grew indifferent altogether, not caring who won. I didn't care for any of the remaining contestants, and the fact that Diana Degarmo made it as far as she did made me mad...but I got over it. I remember Simon kept saying that Jennifer Hudson's vocal style was too operatic and she was heavy on the vibratto...maybe so but her voice is definitely suited to Broadway and even R&B/Soul I think. I'm sure this movie let her grow as a performer and I'm personally very excited to see what she has in store
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