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Post by eljefro on Aug 13, 2007 8:14:25 GMT -5
RCA better not give up on this era when they didn't put much time to begin with! I say they re-send Love Story and also send Each Other, EIG and Not Your Girl for adds on whatever formats they want. Make her visible on the music front! Exactly...TV appearances are one thing her mgmt. handles well but the label needs to work that radio support. It sounds like Each Other would be the song to get released though...Katharine commented that if LS didn't get released the label wanted that because it tested really well...I don't know what does into testing though?
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 13, 2007 10:40:12 GMT -5
What's weird is that EIG wasn't immediately loved by her fans... on initial first listens people loved Open Toes and Neglected the most... but now it's pretty clear EIG is the fan favorite. Neglected is still my #1
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Post by eljefro on Aug 13, 2007 11:09:21 GMT -5
Neglected is the song I listen to most off her album...I think it could do well with a radio edit...
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 13, 2007 12:07:05 GMT -5
#8 on TRL.
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Post by Gray. on Aug 13, 2007 14:59:17 GMT -5
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Post by kckoolaid3 on Aug 13, 2007 15:50:08 GMT -5
Well yeah i think a new cd would be perfect. They the critics said shed pull a kelly clarkson,u think her music career is over then.She comes back stronger than ever.It could and will probably happen. She needs more pounding music to get hits on radio though.IMO love story was a mistake i knew it would flop but i still like the song.
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Post by street on Aug 13, 2007 17:30:47 GMT -5
I think Clive will be pushing Jordin's new album in the fall/winter. I can't imagine Kat putting out a new album until next spring at the earliest. Can they reissue her current album with bonus songs? Elliott Yamin did that on iTunes but I don't know if that means they release a different physical CD.
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Post by eljefro on Aug 13, 2007 17:52:53 GMT -5
I think Clive will be pushing Jordin's new album in the fall/winter. Clive has not signed Jordin or Blake...19 is apparently shopping them both around...so...
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Post by street on Aug 13, 2007 18:43:50 GMT -5
According to Billboard, both Jordin and Blake were signed by Sony/BMG. (check out Jordin's thread)
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Post by eljefro on Aug 13, 2007 18:48:57 GMT -5
According to this week's Billboard, both Jordin and Blake were signed by Sony/BMG. Interesting there was no formal press release...anyway...I can't see how Katharine has anything to do with Jordin since Clive has shown so little interest in this season. They both seem to be rather forgotten...it's sad when thinking about how buzzed about last season's Idols were... I have no idea what they will do with Jordin...I think she may become another Degarmo because of age...and her ultra-conservative beliefs will keep her from competing with girls her age like Rihanna and JoJo.
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Post by missclarkson on Aug 13, 2007 19:47:07 GMT -5
jordin does NOT have IT. kat does. i cant see jordin competiong with other slutty r&b girl, kat can! kat is prettier than most of those bitches anyway
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Post by street on Aug 13, 2007 20:12:00 GMT -5
Season 6 has no buzz but Jordin will get her album. Selling albums isn't just about being the sexiest/prettiest one out there. How slutty is Hannah Montana?
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on Aug 13, 2007 20:39:59 GMT -5
Season 6 has no buzz but Jordin will get her album. Selling albums isn't just about being the sexiest/prettiest one out there. How slutty is Hannah Montana? Exactly. That is why Katharine is flopping. They try to play the "sexy" card but being sexy is nothing special in this industry. She wont ever sell any records if they keep trying to play that card.
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Post by uplink2 on Aug 13, 2007 20:42:52 GMT -5
But will Jordin's sell is a BIG question. I think the fact that there were no physical CD's for their singles and only downloads is rather telling. I know the biz is changing but they could have had much better Billboard chartings if there were physical copies as well. There was no promotion about them at all really as well.
Kat has a very interesting problem though. Not only is she much more attractive and sexy than the other Pop Divas out there she has a much better voice with much more versatility and ability than the others. I'm not sure Danja knew what to do with that voice, he is used to far less talented singers. Babyface on the otherhand knew exactly what to do with it and it is why most Kat fans feel EIG is the best song on the CD. Danja's best effort there was Neglected but I don't think that song really is "radio friendly" like EIG could be. Danja's most radio friendly songs are NUG and EO.
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Post by uplink2 on Aug 13, 2007 20:49:10 GMT -5
Season 6 has no buzz but Jordin will get her album. Selling albums isn't just about being the sexiest/prettiest one out there. How slutty is Hannah Montana? Exactly. That is why Katharine is flopping. They try to play the "sexy" card but being sexy is nothing special in this industry. She wont ever sell any records if they keep trying to play that card. Not true. So you think they should turn off her sex appeal? That's nuts. The problem is the songs that were given to her and picked for singles by RCA. Love Story was a great performance song but not a great Radio song. But you take a song like NUG which I believe is both and add a great sexy video to it and you will most definitely sell. remember "Song choice, Song choice, Song choice!"
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on Aug 13, 2007 21:18:36 GMT -5
Exactly. That is why Katharine is flopping. They try to play the "sexy" card but being sexy is nothing special in this industry. She wont ever sell any records if they keep trying to play that card. Not true. So you think they should turn off her sex appeal? That's nuts. The problem is the songs that were given to her and picked for singles by RCA. Love Story was a great performance song but not a great Radio song. But you take a song like NUG which I believe is both and add a great sexy video to it and you will most definitely sell. remember "Song choice, Song choice, Song choice!" No1 cares aboutsexy. There are plenty of women much sexier than her. Being sexy is nothing special or unique. Get over the insane thought that her looks are so special. She is a pretty girl but you are giving her far too much credit.
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Post by JORDAN on Aug 13, 2007 21:39:55 GMT -5
LOVE STORY WAS #8 on TRL TODAY!!!
and when Damien mentioned a "catfight" between the top 2 ladies, Deluna and DeAnda, it should have been a "kat fight" with Katharine in the top spot! ;)
I have hope! :)
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Post by uplink2 on Aug 13, 2007 21:53:50 GMT -5
Not true. So you think they should turn off her sex appeal? That's nuts. The problem is the songs that were given to her and picked for singles by RCA. Love Story was a great performance song but not a great Radio song. But you take a song like NUG which I believe is both and add a great sexy video to it and you will most definitely sell. remember "Song choice, Song choice, Song choice!" No1 cares abotu sexy. There are plenty of women much sexier than her. Being something is nothing special or unique. Get over the insane thought that her looks are so special. She is a pretty girl but you are giving her far too much credit. First of all, you didn't read my post. It's all about song choice. And some of what you posted makes no sense " Being something is nothing special or unique" What the heck does that mean? And I'm sorry but if it is insane to think her looks are so special then the entertainment media is full of total madness as she is regareded by them and by me and many, many others as one of the most beautiful women in the world today. Someone with her style, class and grace can never be given too much credit. She is perfection!
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on Aug 13, 2007 21:57:22 GMT -5
No1 cares abotu sexy. There are plenty of women much sexier than her. Being something is nothing special or unique. Get over the insane thought that her looks are so special. She is a pretty girl but you are giving her far too much credit. First of all, you didn't read my post. It's all about song choice. And some of what you posted makes no sense " Being something is nothing special or unique" What the heck does that mean? And I'm sorry but if it is insane to think her looks are so special then the entertainment media is full of total madness as she is regareded by them and by me and many, many others as one of the most beautiful women in the world today. Someone with her style, class and grace can never be given too much credit. She is perfection! What I meant was being sexy is nothing special or unique. And u think she is perfection but I and many others think she is average. So everyone has an opinion. Point being, her "sex appeal" is not going to push any albums off the shelves.
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Post by eljefro on Aug 13, 2007 22:02:11 GMT -5
Hannah has a show on the Disney channel..LOL...she'll grow up eventually and lose those fans a la Hilary Duff.
And being sexy is a part of selling records in the pop world...not slutty but I mean...image...
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Post by uplink2 on Aug 13, 2007 22:06:48 GMT -5
First of all, you didn't read my post. It's all about song choice. And some of what you posted makes no sense " Being something is nothing special or unique" What the heck does that mean? And I'm sorry but if it is insane to think her looks are so special then the entertainment media is full of total madness as she is regareded by them and by me and many, many others as one of the most beautiful women in the world today. Someone with her style, class and grace can never be given too much credit. She is perfection! What I meant was being sexy is nothing special or unique. And u think she is perfection but I and many others think she is average. So everyone has an opinion. Point being, her "sex appeal" is not going to push any albums off the shelves. Okay, point taken, being sexy alone will not sell CD's but it does help. Let's face it many many artists of both genders use their sex appeal to help sell but you need something of substance there too. And if you do have it, sales will be improved. Your original point was that she will never sell if they keep pushing her sexy image and that simply isn't true. With the right material being pushed i.e better songs, her sex appeal will only help her marketing. She is a marketers dream. Gorgeous, sexy in a wholesome way, talented and funny. Most of the artists don't have half what she has going for her and the entertainment press sees that. Now what she needs is the right song and the right promotion from her label is all.
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Post by eljefro on Aug 13, 2007 22:08:38 GMT -5
What I meant was being sexy is nothing special or unique. And u think she is perfection but I and many others think she is average. So everyone has an opinion. Point being, her "sex appeal" is not going to push any albums off the shelves. Okay, point taken, being sexy alone will not sell CD's but it does help. Let's face it many many artists of both genders use their sex appeal to help sell but you need something of substance there too. And if you do have it, sales will be improved. Your original point was that she will never sell if they keep pushing her sexy image and that simply isn't true. With the right material being pushed i.e better songs, her sex appeal will only help her marketing. She is a marketers dream. Gorgeous, sexy in a wholesome way, talented and funny. Most of the artists don't have half what she has going for her and the entertainment press sees that. Now what she needs is the right song and the right promotion from her label is all. Don't even bother arguing, SIR hates on everyone... LOL
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Post by uplink2 on Aug 13, 2007 22:14:29 GMT -5
That's fine, I like a good debate of issues. especially when someone says Kat is 'average". Kat is many many things but the one thing she is NOT is average! Especially in the looks department! Unless every magazine that ranks beauty and sexiness in the world is wrong.
also if that woman in my avi is "average" then long live average!!!!
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Post by jpm on Aug 14, 2007 0:52:54 GMT -5
What never ceases to amuse me is that Kat fans think she's a sex goddess. she's OK, I guess. A poor man's Katherine Zeta-Jones at best. I say that as a compliment. Nothing about her stands out in the entertainment world. Just sayin'....
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Post by SHOOTER on Aug 14, 2007 4:19:11 GMT -5
Time for a new thread! I can feel this one getting ready to implode!
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Post by rvd on Aug 14, 2007 7:26:46 GMT -5
I love Home! But yeah it won't do anything, still I love that side of her as well as her Dangerous side. .
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Post by eljefro on Aug 14, 2007 8:34:35 GMT -5
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Post by uplink2 on Aug 14, 2007 9:55:34 GMT -5
Kat attended a House Party at Producer Jennifer Klein's House this weekend with Hillary Swank and Marcia Cross. popsugar.com/524841Here are some of the upcoming projects Klein has coming up: # Charlie Chan (2009) (announced) (producer) # A Family Affair (2008) (announced) (producer) # Rock Paper Scissors (2008) (announced) (producer) # Selling Time (2007) (pre-production) (producer) # Two Minutes to Midnight (2007) (pre-production) (producer) I guess they haven't heard there's nothing special about "average" Kat.
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Aug 14, 2007 13:31:24 GMT -5
lol Average is the last word I would use to describe Kat. Rihanna is average to me but she has really strong material and she has a really strong team supporting her. She isn't really beautiful, she isn't a really great dancer, she isn't a really great singer....but she's the hottest thing out there right now. So it is my belief that if Kat had a strong team and strong material that is well suited to her, she could be huge. She's a great singer, she's beautiful, she can dance pretty well from what we've seen. I really think she can be huge. I see this album much like Kelly Clarkson's Thankful. It's an experimental record to see where they fit best, what's their niche. Kelly did great with Miss Independent but Low flopped. Then she sorta disappeared for about a year and then Breakaway came along. By that time she defined her sound, her style, and the record label supported her immensely because she really blossomed. I believe this will happen with Kat's next CD too. Probably won't be anywhere nearly successful as Breakaway, but I think she might be able to finally make her mark in music once she has everything in line. Wow. Long rambling post. lol
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Post by uplink2 on Aug 14, 2007 13:46:36 GMT -5
lol Average is the last word I would use to describe Kat. Rihanna is average to me but she has really strong material and she has a really strong team supporting her. She isn't really beautiful, she isn't a really great dancer, she isn't a really great singer....but she's the hottest thing out there right now. So it is my belief that if Kat had a strong team and strong material that is well suited to her, she could be huge. She's a great singer, she's beautiful, she can dance pretty well from what we've seen. I really think she can be huge. I see this album much like Kelly Clarkson's Thankful. It's an experimental record to see where they fit best, what's their niche. Kelly did great with Miss Independent but Low flopped. Then she sorta disappeared for about a year and then Breakaway came along. By that time she defined her sound, her style, and the record label supported her immensely because she really blossomed. I believe this will happen with Kat's next CD too. Probably won't be anywhere nearly successful as Breakaway, but I think she might be able to finally make her mark in music once she has everything in line. Wow. Long rambling post. lol Bravo!!!!
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