Should Q102 (Philly) Just go Rhythmic?

[Break The Ice]

They are under "CHR/POP" but look at their playlist:

5 1 FERGIE Clumsy 123 121 2 1.1964
4 2 JORDIN SPARKS Tattoo 122 122 0 1.1817
2 3 FLO RIDA Low (f/T-Pain) 119 124 -5 1.1787
3 4 SEAN KINGSTON Take You There 119 122 -3 1.1754
1 5 WYCLEF JEAN Sweetest Girl (Dollar Bill) 118 125 -7 1.182
8 6 RIHANNA Don't Stop The Music 74 69 5 0.6511
7 7 ALICIA KEYS No One 70 69 1 0.6429
6 8 CHRIS BROWN Kiss, Kiss (f/T-Pain) 66 69 -3 0.6219
23 9 TIMBALAND/ONEREPUBLIC Apologize 64 35 29 0.6424
12 10 PARAMORE Misery Business 62 58 4 0.6366
9 11 FINGER ELEVEN Paralyzer 59 63 -4 0.5784
10 12 GOOD CHARLOTTE I Don't Wanna Be In Love 59 59 0 0.5684
21 13 TIMBALAND The Way I Are (f/Keri Hilson) 58 37 21 0.5897
13 14 BABY BASH Cyclone 57 57 0 0.5652
11 15 COLBIE CAILLAT Bubbly 54 58 -4 0.5386
14 16 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Love Like This f/Sean Kingston 53 57 -4 0.5237
15 17 PLIES Hypnotized (f/Akon) 52 48 4 0.5096
17 18 ENUR Calabria 2008 (f/Natasja) 46 41 5 0.3712
16 19 FABOLOUS Baby Don't Go (f/T-Pain) 39 44 -5 0.3841
20 20 TREY SONGZ Can't Help But Wait 39 37 2 0.3693
18 21 CHRIS BROWN With You 34 39 -5 0.3239
19 22 DIDDY Tell Me f/Christina Aguilera 34 39 -5 0.384
26 23 PAULA DEANDA Easy 30 26 4 0.3155
28 24 T-PAIN Buy U A Drank...(f/Yung Joc) 28 26 2 0.3065
25 25 PINK Who Knew 26 29 -3 0.2802
29 26 RIHANNA Hate That I Love You (f/Ne-Yo) 26 25 1 0.2859
31 27 BRITNEY SPEARS Gimme More 25 22 3 0.2497
24 28 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE Lovestoned 25 31 -6 0.2488
22 29 KANYE WEST Stronger 25 36 -11 0.2568
27 30 PANIC! AT THE DISCO I Write Sins Not Tragedies 24 26 -2 0.2549

granite, they will play a few rock songs and some pop-ish songs, but the r&b/urban songs FAR outweigh the number of pop/rock songs, so my question is.. should Q102 in the future just change to "rhythmic" (can they do that?). Honestly, IMO, it shouldn't be labeled under the CHR/POP category. It is still Top 40 yeah, but I think it should be under Rhythmic. Its just too urban leaning lately.

Most of the top 10 songs on urban/r&b songs.

[Break The Ice]

also, many of the recurrents they play are urban/hip-hop/r&b aswell.

[Slinky]

Good Charlotte, Finger Eleven, and Paramore top ten on a Rhythmic? Q might lean Rhythmic but they're more or less a Pop station.

[Break The Ice]

it just pisses me off b/c aside from a few acts like GC, FE, Paramore etc., 75% of their music is rhythmic-leaning. Plus Philly doesnt have a real CHR station.

Q102 didnt used to be like this.. but its developed into more of a rhythmic-leaning station each and every year.

[hearthemusic11]

Jan 8, 2008 20:02:25 GMT -5 Slinky said:

Good Charlotte, Finger Eleven, and Paramore top ten on a Rhythmic? Q might lean Rhythmic but they're more or less a Pop station.

But what would be wrong with them being a "pop-leaning" Rhythmic station? How come it's okay to be Rhythmic-leaning but not the other way around?

[Break The Ice]

and dont some rhythmic stations play some pop-leaning music? the station is BASICALLY rhythmic nowadays, which is unfortunate.

[tico]

Jan 8, 2008 20:07:50 GMT -5 Break The Ice said:

it just pisses me off b/c aside from a few acts like GC, FE, Paramore etc., 75% of their music is rhythmic-leaning. Plus Philly doesnt have a real CHR station.

Given that you all can get WPST Trenton and WSTW Wilmington, I wouldn't call it a desperate situation for CHR in Philadelphia. But as to why Q102 leans so rhythmic, maybe it's what works for them. They wouldn't lean that way if their research wouldn't support them being more rhythmic.

That said, they need to lower their spin totals for their power rotation.

[Break The Ice]

Exactly. Their spin totals are way too high. It's ridiculous.

And atleast for me, WSTW doesn't always come in clear. It does sometimes but not all the time, and not on all of the different types of things (whether its in car, or on a boombox etc.), while from what I've heard, WPST is either leaning HOT AC or is going to change to HOT AC soon.

The ratings for Q102 are falling though. And just over a year ago, they used to be a HUGE station with over 3 million AI's for their top song. Nowadays, with even more spins for their top song, it barely tops 1.2 milion AI.

[atlantaboy]

Jan 8, 2008 20:02:25 GMT -5 Slinky said:

Good Charlotte, Finger Eleven, and Paramore top ten on a Rhythmic? Q might lean Rhythmic but they're more or less a Pop station.

Yeah (sorry, addressing Blackout)...

Q102 actually is IMO a rhythmic-leaning CHR (unlike KIIS, WKSC, WKQI, and WDKS which play absolutely no rock at all yet still report to CHR)...be glad u don't live in L. A., Chicago, or Detroit cause those cities literally have "CHRs" which play nothin but Rhythmic music

Q102 I think is about in the same "boat" as the CHRs in Wash DC, Phoenix, and now Boston...even Z100/NYC looks more mainstream, but if u actually listen to it, they play dance remixes of a lot of their pop/rock songs, and almost every recurrent is Rhythmic - I think the only huge markets with mainstream CHRs right now are Dallas, Houston, Seattle, and Atlanta

Have u tried 94.5 WPST? It's pretty Hot AC now but it's an "Active" Hot AC (still reports to CHR), but if u flip between PST and Q102 u should get most of the CHR songs out there plus some Modern AC and Rhythmic songs