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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on May 15, 2005 16:42:42 GMT -5
eh, it just bugs me that almost EVERY female singer eventually succumbs to the need to show stomach, hip, breast, and the like. some people need to do it to sell records and be liked. Kelly doesn't, which is why it bugs me even more. She sold over 2 million albums WITHOUT showing so much. And I don't get why baring body parts is synonymous to growing up in the eyes of the media and many fans. It's the music that signifies growth and maturity; and I think Kelly has certainly delivered in that arena. I just don't know why she feels the need to show her stomach and cleavage to get that across, and this video is a culmination of things i've started thinking since this album came out pretty much... the BTHE video would've been just as great and still have gotten her point across if she had covered up a bit in that scene. she looks really pretty in the wedding dress/black dress scenes. It's just a bit gratuitous for my tastes. it's not a plot point or anything.
IMO it alienates some female fans.
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Post by britrocks16 on May 15, 2005 16:43:10 GMT -5
+760 at #7!
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Post by That Skipping Rope. on May 15, 2005 16:49:31 GMT -5
She couldn't wear baggy sweaters her whole life.
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Post by babyboylrtm on May 15, 2005 16:49:35 GMT -5
Yall should freak out when Kelly appears on the cover of Rolling Stone with a teddy bear in a bra, so no need to freak out people ;) The video is missing a close-up of her eyes
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Post by britrocks16 on May 15, 2005 16:50:06 GMT -5
Yall should freak out when Kelly appears on the cover of Rolling Stone with a teddy bear in a bra, so no need to freak out people ;) The video is missing a close-up of her eyes LOL!
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Post by automyskin89 on May 15, 2005 16:51:37 GMT -5
#1
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on May 15, 2005 16:54:28 GMT -5
what baggy sweaters? she never wore baggy sweaters on AI or during the Thankful era, or even during the "Breakaway" song time. i never said anything about that. one of the things I admired about Kelly, besides her totally awesome voice, was how she would comport herself with class. I actually remember something in her American Idol profile about how she wanted to bring class to the industry, and she reiterated this after she won. in fact, she said that she had refused past record deals before AI because they wanted her to dress like a skank, and refused magazine layouts wearing tube tops and daisy duke short shorts. but now she's just throwing that away just for a couple more guys drooling over her? i'm a straight chick, but if they couldn't see that she was beautiful before, they don't deserve to get or see her. it seems like in some ways the industry has become her, although luckily that hasn't gotten to her genuine personality. everybody changes, but i'm just a bit bummed out because it seems like she's abandoning some of her principles. You can be edgy and dark without dressing like a slut.
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Post by kellydicted on May 15, 2005 16:56:07 GMT -5
She's also rolling around in a pit of mud. It's like the "Dirrty" video all over again! :o
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Post by babyboylrtm on May 15, 2005 16:57:59 GMT -5
what baggy sweaters? she never wore baggy sweaters on AI or during the Thankful era, or even during the "Breakaway" song time. i never said anything about that. one of the things I admired about Kelly, besides her totally awesome voice, was how she would comport herself with class. I actually remember something in her American Idol profile about how she wanted to bring class to the industry, and she reiterated this after she won. in fact, she said that she had refused past record deals before AI because they wanted her to dress like a skank, and refused magazine layouts wearing tube tops and daisy duke short shorts. but now she's just throwing that away just for a couple more guys drooling over her? i'm a straight chick, but if they couldn't see that she was beautiful before, they don't deserve to get or see her. it seems like in some ways the industry has become her. everybody changes, but i'm just a bit bummed out because it seems like she's abandoning some of her principles. You can be edgy and dark without dressing like a slut. I think you are over-reacting, if the girl wants to wear a mini-skirt whatever! is her body anyways and I don't know what's the big deal, in the video we only see her stomach, it's not like we get to see her ass every 2 seconds
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Post by babyboylrtm on May 15, 2005 16:59:53 GMT -5
She's also rolling around in a pit of mud. It's like the "Dirrty" video all over again! :o I wish .... anyways that video has nothing over-the-top, they can play the video on Disney Channel
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Post by gbaby on May 15, 2005 17:03:59 GMT -5
She's also rolling around in a pit of mud. It's like the "Dirrty" video all over again! :o I wish Don't we all.
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Post by babyboylrtm on May 15, 2005 17:05:44 GMT -5
I wish Don't we all. Some more than others ;) When the video will premiere on TRL?
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Post by kellydicted on May 15, 2005 17:06:01 GMT -5
I think you are over-reacting, if the girl wants to wear a mini-skirt whatever! is her body anyways and I don't know what's the big deal, in the video we only see her stomach, it's not like we get to see her ass every 2 seconds I agree. I don't usually go into this fan mode but some of the arguments and reasoning people have been using to knock Kelly has been pretty weak and ridiculous.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on May 15, 2005 17:07:41 GMT -5
the thing is, I am a fan. I just saw her in concert less than 2 weeks ago! if I didn't like her as much, I probably wouldn't feel so strongly about it.
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Post by kellydicted on May 15, 2005 17:10:25 GMT -5
Don't we all. When the video will premiere on TRL? It premiers on Monday.
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Post by babyboylrtm on May 15, 2005 17:11:14 GMT -5
When the video will premiere on TRL? It premiers on Monday. Thanks Hector ;)
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Post by That Skipping Rope. on May 15, 2005 17:11:37 GMT -5
splitchick: Kelly is in no means "selling out". She still has her same principles. Hell, she thought the kiss in the video was too long and wanted it shorter. I highly doubt we'll be seeing her strutting around half naked.
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Post by THE LEGEND on May 15, 2005 17:13:24 GMT -5
Now i have 2 video's to vote for.......WBT and BTHE
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Post by gbaby on May 15, 2005 17:24:10 GMT -5
I highly doubt we'll be seeing her strutting around half naked. Damn! LOL
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Post by automyskin89 on May 15, 2005 17:35:17 GMT -5
This is weird. There is the US cover for "SUBG" and then the AU single has a different cover. Now "BTHE" comes out, but it uses the AU cover for SUBG, so I guess the SUBG US original cover will be the AU one of hazel eyes?
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Post by kellydicted on May 15, 2005 17:38:30 GMT -5
Cool! Thanks for postin, Nick!
I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's just a radio callout single.
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Post by automyskin89 on May 15, 2005 17:42:00 GMT -5
Cool! Thanks for postin, Nick! I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's just a radio callout single. No Problem! :) I think that is how it's been with all her singles, the only one that was a US single and was store buyable was "A Moment Like This."
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Post by mamasboy on May 15, 2005 17:45:36 GMT -5
Splitchick, I don't even know what you're talking about.....it's not like she's trying to act super sentual or something like that....I've got morals and principles too, but you've got a very weak case in this instance....
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Post by That Skipping Rope. on May 15, 2005 18:03:52 GMT -5
What is the Suggested Callout Hook?
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Post by JayBoozer on May 15, 2005 18:06:02 GMT -5
What is the Suggested Callout Hook? That's for radio stations.
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Post by That Skipping Rope. on May 15, 2005 18:08:55 GMT -5
What is the Suggested Callout Hook? That's for radio stations. Thanks!
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Post by kellydicted on May 15, 2005 18:09:15 GMT -5
What is the Suggested Callout Hook?
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Post by sandrose on May 15, 2005 18:25:49 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson has stated many times she doesn't have a problem showing a little skin as long as its done tastefully. I understand her to mean gratuitous or outrageous by that and she has never crossed that boundry. Shes sensual without being over the top slutty. She uses her ass-ets very well.
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Post by velcro on May 15, 2005 18:28:43 GMT -5
I don't think she is dressed trashy at all in this video... sure it may be a little bit more revealing than past videos... but it's still in good taste, imo.
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Post by KikiMets on May 15, 2005 19:52:45 GMT -5
eh, it just bugs me that almost EVERY female singer eventually succumbs to the need to show stomach, hip, breast, and the like. some people need to do it to sell records and be liked. Kelly doesn't, which is why it bugs me even more. She sold over 2 million albums WITHOUT showing so much. And I don't get why baring body parts is synonymous to growing up in the eyes of the media and many fans. It's the music that signifies growth and maturity; and I think Kelly has certainly delivered in that arena. I just don't know why she feels the need to show her stomach and cleavage to get that across, and this video is a culmination of things i've started thinking since this album came out pretty much... the BTHE video would've been just as great and still have gotten her point across if she had covered up a bit in that scene. she looks really pretty in the wedding dress/black dress scenes. It's just a bit gratuitous for my tastes. it's not a plot point or anything. IMO it alienates some female fans. After holding a magnifying glass up to my computer screen in a futile attempt to locate this cleavage you speak of (hey, I'm probably the biggest Kelly fan on this board, but that doesn't mean I don't get enjoyment out of mocking her lack of boobs ), I guess I disagree. It's obvious to me that the scenes where she's wearing the the tangled ball of yarn masquerading as a shirt are not the selling point of the video (unless you want to interpret those scenes as Kelly the performer putting on a brave face to the world despite inner turmoil), and I think that if she were trying to use skin to sell records, she would have been on the cover of [insert men's magazine here] about 6 months ago. Occasionally, she'll wear a low-cut or backless top, and she seems to be favoring midriff-baring ensembles at the moment, but that's about it. No micro-minis, no assless chaps, etc. I think she's definitely a bit more comfortable with her body than she was a year or two ago, so when she's playing dress-up for appearances or videos sometimes she does flaunt it a bit more than she used to. I can sorta see where it might bother some people (particularly those at the extreme ends of the age spectrum in her fanbase), but it doesn't really bother me (then again, I practically live in low-rise jeans and form-fitting tops when I'm not lying on the beach in a skimpy bikini, so I don't get why someone 4 years older than I am is being criticized for not being covered up at all times).
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