95-7 Ben FM
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Post by 95-7 Ben FM on Dec 20, 2004 8:20:07 GMT -5
Do we discuss the year end chart in this thread, or do we discuss what the regular chart would have looked like if it had been published?
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Hervard
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Post by Hervard on Dec 20, 2004 11:21:27 GMT -5
Usually, we discuss what the regular chart would have looked like, since I believe the year-end chart is covered in several other posts.
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Post by britrocks16 on Dec 20, 2004 15:11:15 GMT -5
I think that Mario will be #3 by this weeks end and Ciara should be 4 or 5. DC should also break top 10 if they continue gaining like they are.
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Post by irice22 on Dec 20, 2004 15:19:44 GMT -5
Just a question about the chart that was finalized yesterday, did Jesse make the Top 10 in time?
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Post by KikiMets on Dec 20, 2004 15:53:15 GMT -5
He was still #11 at the 6:08 PM update.
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Post by britrocks16 on Dec 20, 2004 16:22:35 GMT -5
Nobodys Home is bulletless now.
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Post by Dan G. on Dec 20, 2004 17:06:40 GMT -5
Just a question about the chart that was finalized yesterday, did Jesse make the Top 10 in time? Nope, he was #11... but the chart isn't published anyway, so it doesn't really make any difference. He will be top ten for sure in the first chart of 2005. |
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Post by Hervard on Dec 20, 2004 17:19:59 GMT -5
At the rate things are going, it looks like neither Gavin DeGraw nor Seether f/Amy Lee are going to make the final Top 40 of the year (according to Mediabase).
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Post by sinceubeengone7 on Dec 20, 2004 18:11:25 GMT -5
At the rate things are going, it looks like neither Gavin DeGraw nor Seether f/Amy Lee are going to make the final Top 40 of the year (according to Mediabase). any1 know what # 'breakaway' is looking to finish at? i noticed avril being buletless, too. very sad, it missed the top 10; the song is so much stronger than 'my happy ending'. even snoop dogg has lost his bullet now. looks like DC and kelly clarkson will be both at top 10 in the first chart in '05! wohooo! 2 of my fave tracks in the top 10! looks like kelly will also be in the top 10 with 2 hits for the first time. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2004 18:12:26 GMT -5
any1 know what # 'breakaway' is looking to finish at? around #20 |
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Post by Mega248 on Dec 20, 2004 18:37:22 GMT -5
i noticed avril being buletless, too. very sad, it missed the top 10; the song is so much stronger than 'my happy ending'. A lot of songs have lost spins in the past few days. Unless it starts losing very quickly, it'll be hard to tell whether it's done for sure until the second week in January. |
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Post by britrocks16 on Dec 20, 2004 19:03:25 GMT -5
This is the last week before the break is over, right?
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Post by Mega248 on Dec 20, 2004 19:06:33 GMT -5
This is the last week before the break is over, right? Yes. |
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Post by britrocks16 on Dec 20, 2004 22:47:30 GMT -5
Is the R&R chart a top 50 chart? Like BB has its mainstream top 40, is R&R top 50 or top 40?
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Post by KikiMets on Dec 20, 2004 22:53:30 GMT -5
Is the R&R chart a top 50 chart? Like BB has its mainstream top 40, is R&R top 50 or top 40? For Pop, it's top 50, but for other formats, it's 40 or even 30. |
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Post by eric on Dec 20, 2004 23:36:38 GMT -5
Ugh I hate the break!!
must.get.update
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Post by mst3k on Dec 21, 2004 0:10:40 GMT -5
Ugh I hate the break!! must.get.update Hehe, you think it's bad now, wait until the week between Christmas and New Years. If I remember correctly, last year Mediabase went a few days without updating at all. |
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Post by eric on Dec 21, 2004 0:23:39 GMT -5
Hehe, you think it's bad now, wait until the week between Christmas and New Years. If I remember correctly, last year Mediabase went a few days without updating at all. :'( :'( *goes and crawls under a rock for a while* |
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Post by Dee on Dec 21, 2004 6:55:05 GMT -5
I'm glad Ryan still is over 300. I'm hoping for top10 but it can be hard. DC will pass him soon since they have a bullet of 909.
GC bullet is now 79 and it seems they will lose their bullet soon. Too bad for such a catchy tune. Green Day is still going strong and has a bullet of 785. That's the only song I can see going places of the ones between 21 and 30.
Ashlee's bullet is 219. It is payola but I guess this is helping her album sales cause they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't. I wonder how this song will do next month. The second season of show starts then and I think her tour starts in February.
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Post by jimmy74747 on Dec 21, 2004 9:20:19 GMT -5
Ashlee's bullet is 219. It is payola but I guess this is helping her album sales cause they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't. Wouldn't that mean that maybe this isn't payloa. People are actually buying the album, which means people like the song. There are artists in the Top 10 (Gavin DeGraw) who aren't even in the Top 100 for album sales. I think thats where payloa may lie. |
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Post by Dee on Dec 21, 2004 13:17:31 GMT -5
Why have payola if not to help album sales? Paying for a single to do good isn't helping a label's economy if albums aren't sold.
Ok, I know that a popular song doesn't always equal good album sales, Gavin being an example.
What lies behind payola?
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Post by britrocks16 on Dec 21, 2004 13:20:33 GMT -5
Marios bullet shrunk alot, its down to 771 from over 900 yesterday. Ciara still has her huge bullet which is +858. I can't believe that Soldier is gaining so much :o.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 21, 2004 15:57:59 GMT -5
I think payola was brought in because they dont want Ashlee to have two flops side by side. I dont think the people buying the cd now are buying because of Lala-its simply not a big enough hit yet. The album has stayed steady the past few weeks, selling fairly well because she is one of the breakout artists of the year and parents will buy her for a stocking stuffer.
The label probably does not want Ashlee dead at radio-so far she has had one hit and if she flops with Lala and another single...she will only have one hit and could go down as a one hit wonder, despite her popularity.
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Post by Dan G. on Dec 21, 2004 16:10:27 GMT -5
The label probably does not want Ashlee dead at radio-so far she has had one hit... She's already had two hits. Shadow made it up to the top 15, so I think most people would consider that a hit. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 21, 2004 16:50:21 GMT -5
Really? Most everyone I have spoken to has called it a flop, especially since it BARELY hit #15 and then COLLAPSED at almost record speed out of the top 40. But if you want to call it a hit...you can. I would say it was a flop, especially following Pieces of Me.
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Post by britrocks16 on Dec 21, 2004 18:10:52 GMT -5
I consider Shadow a flop because since POM made it to #1 Shadow should have easily made top 10.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 21, 2004 18:35:43 GMT -5
I consider Shadow a flop because since POM made it to #1 Shadow should have easily made top 10. I think thats why a lot of people consider it a flop-that and the fact that it literally collapsed off the charts. Maybe disappointment would be a less harsh term however. |
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Post by Dan G. on Dec 21, 2004 20:29:46 GMT -5
I just don't think it's fair to consider any song that makes the top 20 a flop, regardless of what song its release is following.
Pieces Of Me was very catchy and went straight to number one... What if it had barely cracked the top 40? Then Shadow's #15 peak would've probably been considered a big hit. That doesn't make sense to me.
Songs' successes or failures shouldn't be judged by the successes or failures of the artist's previous release. Shadow was a hit.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 21, 2004 21:36:07 GMT -5
Thats a very different point of view, haha. You are allowed to have it, I just dont agree. I think if an artist goes from dominating at #1 to barely squeaking at #15 before literally dive bombing OFF the chart...then that song is a flop. FOr any artist.
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Post by britrocks16 on Dec 21, 2004 21:45:59 GMT -5
Thats a very different point of view, haha. You are allowed to have it, I just dont agree. I think if an artist goes from dominating at #1 to barely squeaking at #15 before literally dive bombing OFF the chart...then that song is a flop. FOr any artist. Agreed. |
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