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Post by Slinky on Mar 31, 2008 1:18:54 GMT -5
Interesting, because PA was the area I was thinking used to have Rock stations 10 years ago but now just has Classic Rock stations or Active Rock stations.
Pittsburgh has WDVE, which was kicked off the Mainstream Rock panel years ago because they don't play enough currents. They're considered Classic Rock now by Arbitron and Mediabase. Harrisburg's WTPA and Scranton's Rock 107 are similar. Johnstown has Rocky 99, which used to be more of a mainstream rock station but is now classic. Their sister station Rocky 104.9 has also gotten much more classic-oriented over the years. Same goes for WZXR in Williamsport.
Philadelphia's WMMR is the opposite. They were a Mainstream Rocker that got moved to the Active Rock panel because they started playing harder currents. Chambersburg's WQCM seems like it would be in the same situation if they were big enough to be monitored.
Erie's Rocket 101 would probably be the closest thing to a mainstream Rock station in Pennsylvania, and even they lean pretty heavily towards Classic Rock.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 1, 2008 17:20:27 GMT -5
^Yeah I think the stations I'm thinkin of are mostly rural stations you would only pick up on road trips drivin from city to city (not any based outta Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, or Philly)...there are def. some in Southwestern Virginia along the I-81 corridor, def. one in Charlottesville, I think one in Harrisonburg VA, a couple as you're headin into Western Maryland and that corner of West VA, and a couple as you're crossin the southwestern part of PA
I remember some of them even have mottos like "the best new rock and the best old rock all on the same station" - but it's def. a rural market thing IMO
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Post by Houster on Apr 7, 2008 8:57:56 GMT -5
Not sure where its going to fit in the rock classifications, but a few months ago, New York's Jazz station, CD-101.9, flipped to a classic/current rock format, called WRXP, "New York's Rock Experience." There's plenty of classic rock and even the softer artists like Three Doors Down (however, no Daughtry, thank you), but there is a lot of new stuff from bands that are not played by any commercial station in New York, and they even occasionally play album cuts (example: R.E.M.'s "Houston.") The deejays seem to be much more into the music than the K-Rock jocks who seem more of the beer-guzzling type.
Meanwhile, after the FREE-FM debacle, 92.3 flipped back K-Rock, which is very much what I would call a more modern classic rock station (as opposed to WQHT Q-104.3 or Long Island's WBAB). But they play a lot less current music than WRXP, and have recently played a lot of so-called audience submitted playlists (i.e., "you program the station", which is pretty much the same 90's and 00's music that they were already playing).
For me, WRXP is a much more interesting listen than K-Rock. And, the flips from FREE-FM to K-Rock, CD 101.9 to WRXP, and WCBS-FM's flip back from Jack to Oldies has, for me, made the New York terrestrial radio listen better than it was, say a year ago.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 7, 2008 10:15:18 GMT -5
^Yeah WRXP is classified as Triple A (by Arbitron anyway), and I think it's taken a lot of listeners away from WPLJ (it's gettin much higher ratings than PLJ also)...Not sure why so many major-market Triple A's aren't monitored by Mediabase (New York, D. C., Atlanta, etc.) - I'd def. say it's been one of the fastest growing formats of the past few years, in terms of number of stations
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Post by Slinky on Apr 7, 2008 12:55:50 GMT -5
Atlanta and DC are monitored by Mediabase. The NYC station is too new to be monitored but probably will be eventually.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 7, 2008 13:23:45 GMT -5
Atlanta and DC are monitored by Mediabase. The NYC station is too new to be monitored but probably will be eventually. Wow I swear they must've just been added back in...WZGC/Atlanta wasn't on Mediabase a couple of weeks ago when I checked, and the D. C. station wasn't bein monitored when I checked I while back...I swear
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Post by Houster on Apr 8, 2008 1:16:33 GMT -5
WPLJ really isn't a Hot AC station anymore. It's Z-100 without the hip hop, with a lot of recent oldies by artists that appeal to women thrown in.
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Post by Slinky on Apr 8, 2008 10:50:11 GMT -5
WPLJ really isn't a Hot AC station anymore. It's Z-100 without the hip hop, with a lot of recent oldies by artists that appeal to women thrown in. Actually, looking at the recent Hot AC charts, that's what most of the Hot AC panel has become. More and more, Hot AC is cutting back on Alternative and going back to its early-90's roots as CHR without the rap.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 8, 2008 11:13:04 GMT -5
WPLJ really isn't a Hot AC station anymore. It's Z-100 without the hip hop, with a lot of recent oldies by artists that appeal to women thrown in. Actually, looking at the recent Hot AC charts, that's what most of the Hot AC panel has become. More and more, Hot AC is cutting back on Alternative and going back to its early-90's roots as CHR without the rap. It actually seems like Hot AC has split into two types of stations IMO...the "CHR without rap" type, and the "Adult-leaning Alternative" type (much more popular now in the Western half of the U. S.)
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Post by Slinky on Apr 8, 2008 13:18:40 GMT -5
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Post by John77 on Apr 14, 2008 23:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by John77 on Apr 14, 2008 23:07:43 GMT -5
WPLJ really isn't a Hot AC station anymore. It's Z-100 without the hip hop, with a lot of recent oldies by artists that appeal to women thrown in. I was just in NY this past week and it sounded pretty Hot AC to me - I listened to it A LOT while I was there - almost exclusively actually... Scott & Todd's morning show featured a funny little parody of "Won't Go Home Without You" called "Can't Get Home 'Til Next Week" making fun of the American Airlines situation with the 3,000+ canceled flights.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 15, 2008 16:57:54 GMT -5
WPLJ really isn't a Hot AC station anymore. It's Z-100 without the hip hop, with a lot of recent oldies by artists that appeal to women thrown in. I was just in NY this past week and it sounded pretty Hot AC to me - Yeah WPLJ seems like a Hot AC "mold" to me...almost too dull sometimes, playin mostly the Top 15-20 Hot AC songs mixed in with 80s ballads from Survivor, Journey, etc. (and almost every single song Bon Jovi ever recorded lol) I actually think PLJ and Mix 107.3/Wash DC are the two most boring HACs I've heard (no semi-rhythmic songs to stir up the mix, barely any "Modern AC" hits, and just a really "slow" pace) IMO some much better large market Hot AC's right now are WBMX/Boston, WTMX/Chicago, KDMX/Dallas, KHMX/Houston, WPTE/Norfolk, WWMX/Baltimore, and the couple of HACs in Denver
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Post by Minor Scratch on Jun 17, 2008 15:10:58 GMT -5
I like the Alternative station here in Dallas much more than before. 102.1 The Edge plays more classic recurrents than ever since they usually don't have anything else to spin. I would rather hear those than newer songs anyway.
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