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Post by Crushcrushchris on Feb 27, 2008 8:49:59 GMT -5
According to Tunelab Music, this is the first single off of their new album Indestructible and it will go for adds sometime next month.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Feb 27, 2008 9:30:08 GMT -5
So sweet.....i was listening to 10000 Fists last night and wondering when new stuff was coming. I am anxiously awaiting the new album.
edit - I just read that they might possibly have a cover of Midlife Crisis by Faith No More.....that alone would make me get this album!
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Post by pen on Feb 27, 2008 12:03:24 GMT -5
I am really in the mood for more Disturbed right about now. I just hope the album follows relatively soon.
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Post by American Idiot on Feb 27, 2008 17:25:39 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to this. It feels like such a long time since I've heard anything new from them.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Feb 27, 2008 22:21:47 GMT -5
BOOKED: Disturbed - Nathan Cox, director artist: Disturbed song: "Inside The Fire" label: Reprise/Warner Bros. director(s): Nathan Cox production co: Oracle Films rep: Labuda Management
Win.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 28, 2008 4:43:04 GMT -5
I just read that they might possibly have a cover of Midlife Crisis by Faith No More. That would be badass. Even more badass is that it will totally piss off most Faith No More fans, not to mention, Mike Patton, himself.
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Post by Pipa on Feb 28, 2008 9:12:06 GMT -5
It's about time. With Puddle of Mudd entering the top 10, I didn't think the current state of Alternative radio could get any worse.
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Post by pen on Feb 28, 2008 10:23:44 GMT -5
The state of alternative radio is denial.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Mar 6, 2008 23:08:20 GMT -5
April 1st!
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Post by American Idiot on Mar 9, 2008 0:36:12 GMT -5
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Post by Pipa on Mar 9, 2008 17:38:54 GMT -5
76 DISTURBED Perfect Insanity 2008 Reprise/Warner Bros. 39 0 39 0.299
Any idea what this is?
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Post by pen on Mar 9, 2008 18:57:17 GMT -5
76 DISTURBED Perfect Insanity 2008 Reprise/Warner Bros. 39 0 39 0.299 Any idea what this is? It's from the new album. It's not a single, they just put it on their MySpace as a teaser. Actually, it's a b-side from the Sickness days, but they redid it for the new album, and I guess some stations can't just wait for new Disturbed.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 10, 2008 17:35:49 GMT -5
It's about time. With Puddle of Mudd entering the top 10, I didn't think the current state of Alternative radio could get any worse. I understand your evident preference of Disturbed over Puddle of Mudd (frankly, I don't blame you), but the statement reads odd to me, because there's hundreds of thousands of people who enjoy both bands and maybe a similar number who equally loathe both bands and, if writing your comment, would intend it ironically.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 10, 2008 17:54:08 GMT -5
It's not even a matter of preference. It's a matter of "which s**tty lifeless song would I rather have played more?". I'd rather have something like "Guarded" or "Stricken" played more than "Control" or "Famous". Not by much, but enough.
By that comment I meant that with bands like Puddle of Mudd and Seether on Alternative radio, the last thing we need now is Disturbed. Hey, I like them all as much as the next guy (well, maybe not Puddle of Mudd), but I'm tired of seeing them on the alternative charts. Let Active Rock have them all they want -- heck, even let them hit the alternative charts from time to time -- but stop giving them 15-week #1's with average songs. Let's try to get the chart back to how it was this time 2 years ago -- even if the songs weren't good, they were some form of variety.
Now, this topic has been discussed countless times before, so I'm ending it here.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 11, 2008 3:51:58 GMT -5
Oh, okay, so you did intend for it to be at least somewhat sarcastic, then.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 11, 2008 9:26:11 GMT -5
Oh, okay, so you did intend for it to be at least somewhat sarcastic, then. Pretty much, it'd take a different tone had someone like oscillations had said it.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 13, 2008 23:03:56 GMT -5
"Perfect" Insanity may break the Top 40 on Active Rock very soon. Is this what happened with "Guarded" as well or did they intend to have that be the lead single and have "Stricken" follow up. For whatever reason, I recall "Guarded"'s rise to the top 10 to be somewhat of an accident.
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Post by Chato on Mar 14, 2008 10:19:25 GMT -5
It's not even a matter of preference. It's a matter of "which s**tty lifeless song would I rather have played more?". I'd rather have something like "Guarded" or "Stricken" played more than "Control" or "Famous". Not by much, but enough. By that comment I meant that with bands like Puddle of Mudd and Seether on Alternative radio, the last thing we need now is Disturbed. Hey, I like them all as much as the next guy (well, maybe not Puddle of Mudd), but I'm tired of seeing them on the alternative charts. Let Active Rock have them all they want -- heck, even let them hit the alternative charts from time to time -- but stop giving them 15-week #1's with average songs. Let's try to get the chart back to how it was this time 2 years ago -- even if the songs weren't good, they were some form of variety. Now, this topic has been discussed countless times before, so I'm ending it here. I'm sorry to warm this topic up again, but I think you've raised an interesting question when you mentioned the variety you're missing. When you're taking a closer look at the alternative chart, it becomes apparent that it's the form of variety it currently reflects that renders the tag 'alternative' more obsolete than it's ever been before, if it's used to describe the music being played by the stations that are currently being monitored to compile the 'alternative rock chart'. The vast majority of the panel comprises of stations that are actually 'active rock in disguise'(just compare the playlist of KTBZ to that of any station on the Active Rock panel), and that's why singles by Seether, Puddle Of Mudd or Disturbed fly up the alternative chart in similar manner than they do at active rock. Looking a bit closer reveals that many stations on the panel actually hardly ever touch any of said acts' singles (KRBZ, KEQX, KDLD etc.) with many of these stations hardly playing anything that could be considered alt-metal or post-grunge, 'leaning TripleA' if anything! The panel is completely inhomogeneous with many stations being indistinguishable from active rock stations and many not too far away from that (KROQ), while some others have absolutely nothing in common with active rock (KDLD, KNRK) and some are on the panel for no apparent reason (WXRK, KYSR, KUCD). In my opinion it would be most accurate to have a general rock ('modern rock') chart comprised of the current AR panel and the majority of stations on the alternative panel. The remaining stations like the aforementioned KDLD or KNRK could be used to compile a minor chart similar to the TripleA and Heritage Rock charts.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 14, 2008 10:59:04 GMT -5
So basically, you want something like FMQB's Specialty charts: www.fmqb.com/specialty.aspThere are still stations that do a good job. Stations like WEQX and Canada's CFEX that, while they may still be a little too left-leaning, do a decent job. WEQX doesn't seem to have any active rock artists, but CFEX has people like Foo Fighters and Linkin Park mixed in with Canadian indie music. The interesting thing about Canada's rock charts is that the top 20 is basically made up of what the "mainstream" stations play, while the rest of the chart is basically a free-for-all for all the alternative-leaning stations (It's like this in the US too, but at a much lesser level). I mean, nowhere on any of the 3 rock formats would you have Steve Winwood entering the chart. Or Queens of the Stone Age entering the top 2 after 2 flop singles.
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Post by Chato on Mar 14, 2008 11:33:25 GMT -5
To be honest, I didn't even know about the specialty chart until you posted the link. I could compile a 'general rock' chart myself (I've seen such charts being posted over at the HotAC/CHR forums) by doing a station by station analysis to see which stations basically have active rock playlists. I don't have enough inside knowledge to tell what the purpose of the alternative/modern rock chart in its current form is, and whether it's realistic to think about reforming the way the rock charts are compiled right now, but I think the alternative chart in its current state doesn't reflect what's popular in alternative rock music. It appears to be a chart that's compiled by using a panel of stations that looks like it was put together randomly.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 14, 2008 18:03:46 GMT -5
I hope all of you who hold Alternative so dear in your hearts realize that any of these changes you fantasize about would basically make Active Rock (or whatever the new chart would be called) by far the most important rock format, while the new alternative chart would have few more stations than the heritage rock chart on its panel, making it a much less relevant chart. Alternative always goes through phases, just try to be loyal to it through them, because I don't think you'd be able to deal very well with active rock being the major rock format. That "you" is directed broadly at all the people who have complained about the current state of alternative radio.
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Post by Pipa on Mar 14, 2008 18:08:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind; at least then both formats would have their own personality.
I just realized that the Active Rock chart is very fast-moving right now: about 5 songs out of the top 10 have been on the chart since February, January at most. Meanwhile, the Alternative chart still has "The Pretender" and "Paralyzer" in the top 10. Really now, is there nothing else to play?
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Post by Chato on Mar 15, 2008 4:37:17 GMT -5
^^ Yeah I've noticed that too. From a chart watcher's point of view it's actually more fun to follow the active rock chart than the alternative chart. Each song in the 21-30 range of yesterdays chart is bulleted and the new 3DD song might actually be competitive enough to put a premature end to POM's reign at the top. The notion that there is nothing for alternative stations to play might not be that far off, ancient songs are still doing well, while MM, SIO, Run and to a lesser extent The Stone are already struggling after only a few weeks, not to mention that bands like Spoon or MGMT rarely ever make it past the #25 mark.
I also agree with picpak about the personality thing. The alternative chart has steadily moved closer to being a carbon copy of the Active Rock chart ever since the late 90's, or at least many stations have made this move while some have not. It would be an acknowledgement of reality to tell it like it is and merge these two formats imo. The simple facts are, that nowadays the average listener of any rock station tunes in to hear Puddle Of Mudd, Seether and 3Doors Down just as much as Foo Fighters, Rise Against or Paramore, simply put, most listeners are looking for stuff that flat-out rocks, call it Active Rock, post-grunge, Meat-and-Potatoes-rock or just modern rock. Back in 1993 The Breeders, Tasmin Archer and Dead Can Dance (just to name a few) could all score top20 hits on the alternative chart while most mainstream rock stations wouldn't have touched their singles under any circumstances, but these times are long gone ( Oh no, what happened? :'( ) and gone is the distinctive character of (the) alternative rock radio/(chart).
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Post by Pipa on Mar 15, 2008 8:41:37 GMT -5
Back in 1993 The Breeders, Tasmin Archer and Dead Can Dance (just to name a few) could all score top20 hits on the alternative chart while most mainstream rock stations wouldn't have touched their singles under any circumstances, but these times are long gone ( Oh no, what happened? :'( ) and gone is the distinctive character of (the) alternative rock radio/(chart). Well, isn't that still somewhat true? I don't see Jack Johnson anywhere on the other rock formats. Or Paramore. Granted, they may be different than what you're thinking of, but they sound completely different from one another. You can't say it's lost all of its identity, because I just named two of them right there. Also, I think it's unrealistic to want to get the chart back to how it was in 1993. There isn't a single chart out there that's the same as it was in 1993. It's called growth. All I'm asking is that we go back 2, 3, maybe 4 years ago at most, back when there were artists like Gorillaz, Matisyahu and She Wants Revenge (just for example; I don't even like the last two) getting big hits on the chart.
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Post by Chato on Mar 15, 2008 13:58:33 GMT -5
Of course you're right in that it would be completely unrealistic to expect alternative radio to still be the same as it was 15 years ago. But that's not the point I was trying to make. As I've said in my initial post, I just don't find the alternative rock chart in its current form to be representative of what's popular in 'alternative music' and I still think that a merger of the active rock panel and a majority of the alternative panel would be a good solution in order to compile a chart that reflects what's popular in 'modern rock' or 'mainstream rock'. Of course not all stations on that panel would share all the same artists, but if you look at the active rock chart it's obvious that there are some stations that actually play Paramore , R.E.M. and Jimmy Eat World, just like there are some stations on the alternative panel that play Ozzy Osbourne, Drowning Pool and Sevendust. There are huge differences between the playlists of many stations on the CHR, HAC and even Rhythmic panels, bigger ones than there are between those of most alternative and active rock stations, that's why I think it would make sense to have a general rock chart, no question that the stations would lean to different sides, but acts like Linkin Park, RHCP, Foo Fighters and Three Days Grace could easily be played by each and every station on that fictional panel (in fact that's already the case). Again, as I've mentioned before, I don't have that much inside knowledge, so what I'm saying might be completely out of touch with reality ;)
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Post by jmcomps on Mar 19, 2008 2:04:14 GMT -5
is that true?? i've been waiting for the new album of disturbed!!! -------------- Free ads here
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Mar 20, 2008 9:04:27 GMT -5
Perfect Insanity in itself sounds like a single to me. The "I think I'm losin' my mind" part of the song has been stuck in my head since I first listened to it...I think I might want to go get that checked out Won't base anything off of the clip, but hearing the album trailer, this looks like another platinum seller. That clip at the end with whatever that solo was for...win.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 25, 2008 15:07:50 GMT -5
I don't remember this song having any plays yesterday, or certainly very few. Now on today's update, it has roughly 200 plays at at active rock and about 100 on alternative and heritage rock combined.
Though the numbers looked a bit different this morning because apparently, at some point today, Mediabase flipped several alternative stations and heritage rock stations to active rock. I wonder if any went the other way as well.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Mar 25, 2008 19:24:39 GMT -5
I prefer Perfect Insanity. Not that this is bad.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 26, 2008 18:09:54 GMT -5
I prefer Perfect Insanity too. And something about "Inside The Fire" is cheesy to me. I know Disturbed has been cheesy on occasion before, like the OOOO-ah-ah-ah-ah was a total gimmick on "Down With The Sickness," but something about that song works well for them that doesn't work as well on this song. I don't even pay attention to lyrics, but something about these are just so bad. The rhymes in the verses sound really forced and awkward, and they just don't sound good. It's not the content I'm objecting to.
And given how many plays it has after two days of airplay roughly, this should debut within the top 10 on active rock.
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