Stations late on playing songs.

[Kid Pulse]

WRQX has been getting on my nerves lately.

They are currently spinning "If Everyone Cared" 35 times per week, making it thier third biggest song. The song has been on recurrent for two weeks now. I also noticed that they spun "Better than me" by Hinder very heavy after it went to recurrent.

Also, "What Goes Around" was #1 on thier station in July, which was absoulutly pitiful. WINC, another Hot AC, had "Summer Love" #1 at the same time.

I also remember a pop station spinning "Cupid's Chokehold" like 101 times a week in June!!

What is up with stations having songs played so much after they have been well over on the chart?

[reception]

KRTR Honolulu a Mediabase monitored AC station, only started to play "Home" and "Waiting On The World To Change" when the songs hit #1 on the R&R AC chart. When Cox Radio took over KRTR back in the 90's?, the variety was shrunk big time.

KRTR-FM
Cox Radio Inc
Honolulu - 96.3 FM (Mainstream AC)
by This Week Spins
TW: Sep 6 - Sep 12

3 1 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 42 40 2 0.272
1 2 JOHN MAYER Waiting On The World To Change 40 43 -3 0.2663
2 3 NICKELBACK Far Away 40 42 -2 0.2659
5 4 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 39 39 0 0.2545
6 5 DANIEL POWTER Bad Day 37 39 -2 0.2301
4 6 LIFEHOUSE You And Me 36 40 -4 0.2356
8 7 DAUGHTRY Home 28 28 0 0.1746
7 8 JAMES BLUNT You're Beautiful 26 28 -2 0.17
9 9 MARIAH CAREY We Belong Together 26 27 -1 0.1565
10 10 RASCAL FLATTS What Hurts The Most 25 27 -2 0.1533
11 11 HO'ONU'A She Looks Good 3 3 0 0.0279

[musicfanpete]

reception said:

KRTR Honolulu a Mediabase monitored AC station, only started to play "Home" and "Waiting On The World To Change" when the songs hit #1 on the R&R AC chart. When Cox Radio took over KRTR back in the 90's?, the variety was shrunk big time.

KRTR-FM
Cox Radio Inc
Honolulu - 96.3 FM (Mainstream AC)
by This Week Spins
TW: Sep 6 - Sep 12

3 1 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 42 40 2 0.272
1 2 JOHN MAYER Waiting On The World To Change 40 43 -3 0.2663
2 3 NICKELBACK Far Away 40 42 -2 0.2659
5 4 KELLY CLARKSON Because Of You 39 39 0 0.2545
6 5 DANIEL POWTER Bad Day 37 39 -2 0.2301
4 6 LIFEHOUSE You And Me 36 40 -4 0.2356
8 7 DAUGHTRY Home 28 28 0 0.1746
7 8 JAMES BLUNT You're Beautiful 26 28 -2 0.17
9 9 MARIAH CAREY We Belong Together 26 27 -1 0.1565
10 10 RASCAL FLATTS What Hurts The Most 25 27 -2 0.1533
11 11 HO'ONU'A She Looks Good 3 3 0 0.0279

Yeah, but they seem to be early on Ho'onu'a!

Who the heck are they (or he/she)?

[reception]

musicfanpete said:

Yeah, but they (KRTR) seem to be early on Ho'onu'a!

Who the heck are they (or he/she)?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qovtiOl50eg
I'm guessing that's a popular Hawaiian music classic. KRTR has three sister stations that play Hawaiian music KCCN- Hawaiian CHR, KINE- Hawaiian AC and KKNE- Classic Hawaiian. Why can't KRTR keep the Hawaiian music away from its AC playlist? It just keeps a good majority of the R&R AC chart songs off the KRTR playlist. Keep the Hawaiian music where it belongs, on Hawaiian music stations, period.

The other two AC stations in Honolulu (KSSK, KUMU) unfortunately has Hawaiian music too but it's not nearly as bad as the limited KRTR playlist.

[Kid Pulse]

I'm talking about Hot AC stations, lol.

We already knew AC was slow, unless it's Michael Buble.

[Slinky]

RQX has always been among the slowest Hot AC reporters in the country. That's why I listened to Z104 more when they were around.

[Kid Pulse]

^Dude, I used to love Z104!! They played "Scars" by Papa Roach all the time back in the summer of 2005, and the only other stations that played that in the area were DC101, Hot 99.5, and Baltimore's rock radio, none of which were Hot ACs.

Why did Z104 go off-air?

Thanks for clearing that up for me. They JUST added "Face Down" and called it "brand new stuff". You don't even want to know my reaction to that.

[reception]

Has WRQX gotten more stale now that Citadel is the owner?

[shocker]

video545 said:

WRQX has been getting on my nerves lately.

They are currently spinning "If Everyone Cared" 35 times per week, making it thier third biggest song. The song has been on recurrent for two weeks now. I also noticed that they spun "Better than me" by Hinder very heavy after it went to recurrent.

What is up with stations having songs played so much after they have been well over on the chart?

I brought up many of the same gripes about KMXP (a.k.a. Mix 96.9) several months ago.

Being that WRQX is another "Mix" station, it sounds like these types of Hot ACs are very much alike in the way they tend to overplay recurrents. Mix 96.9 goes out early on a few songs when they're new, then they often drop them completely, and then start playing them in regular rotation after they peak on the chart.

I'd suggest listening "live" via the internet to various Hot AC stations that tend to be more modern-sounding. A few you might try are KMXB Las Vegas, KALC Denver, or KYSR in Los Angeles.

[Kid Pulse]

I usually listen to WINC, which is much better than WRQX, but I still wanna listen to those others.

[dth1971]

I know CHR/Rhythmic station WBBM B-96 Chicago in most of the 1990's played a non dance song that was rock when it was in the Top 10 of a Billboard Hot 100 chart.

[atlantaboy]

video545 said:

^Dude, I used to love Z104!! They played "Scars" by Papa Roach all the time back in the summer of 2005, and the only other stations that played that in the area were DC101, Hot 99.5, and Baltimore's rock radio, none of which were Hot ACs.

Why did Z104 go off-air?

Z104 had really low ratings (lower than 2.0 I think for the last year they were around)

When I lived in Northern Virginia in '96-'98, WRQX played about 1 current hit an hour I think, and the rest songs from the 80s and early 90s - it's playlist was usually less than 15 songs - I think it got a little more progressive after Z104 went off the air at the end of '05, but I guess it's gettin more conservative now

[johnm1120]

Y100 just added When You're Gone and Rockstar.

[tico]

chbigemi said:

Y100 just added When You're Gone and Rockstar.

They do suck. Have they added "Kryptonite"?

[circlecircledotdot]

There's a saying in radio programming:

"You can't get hurt by what you're not playing. You CAN, however, get hurt by what you ARE playing."

So, if a station waits on a record, there's likely a very good reason that may or may not be evident to the average listener / chart follower. If a station adds a certain record way late, maybe even after it's already peaked, there may be a reason for it. For example, maybe the station has had that song in callout for awhile and it's just beginning to achieve scores that make it suitable to that programming department's feelings for what should be on the radio station.

[atlantaboy]

circlecircledotdot said:

There's a saying in radio programming:

"You can't get hurt by what you're not playing. You CAN, however, get hurt by what you ARE playing."

So, if a station waits on a record, there's likely a very good reason that may or may not be evident to the average listener / chart follower. If a station adds a certain record way late, maybe even after it's already peaked, there may be a reason for it. For example, maybe the station has had that song in callout for awhile and it's just beginning to achieve scores that make it suitable to that programming department's feelings for what should be on the radio station.

Think it depends on the market and how conservative people are (even able certain types of music) - I know the average listeners in the Northeast, Upper Midwest, and West constantly want to hear new music (WPRO/Providence, WFLY/Albany, WPST/Trenton, WSTW/Wilmington, WIXX/Green Bay, WTMX/Hot AC Chicago, KLCA/Hot AC Reno, KMXB/Hot AC Las Vegas, etc.) while the average listeners in more Southern areas tend to be more content with what is familiar (in general) - and in Miami, that's certainly not Rock or Country music IMO...but if a new Shakira song came out, Y100 Miami would prob. be the first station to jump on it (besides Z100)

[Kid Pulse]

San Fransisco's hot AC is spinning "Far Away" over 60 times per week.

[atlantaboy]

video545 said:

San Fransisco's hot AC is spinning "Far Away" over 60 times per week.

San Francisco has a way liberal "Alice" Hot AC (KLLC), but KIOI (the station ur talkin about) is completely dominating it in ratings - S. F. also doesn't have a CHR so "Far Away" was never really played in high rotation when it came out

[shocker]

I think one reason San Fran's KIOI is higher-rated is it's been around for many years, and never really changed its format.

For a while in the '80s I lived in San Jose during the summers, and I remember that KIOI (known back then as K101) was a Hot AC long before the format even became established. They spun many of the current CHR hits back then along with some AC-gold hits from the '60s and '70s.

Of course KIOI has been tweaked a little over the years, but the format always stayed the same. It's basically a staple in the Bay Area because of its familiarity, and its popularity among the young and old.

[atlantaboy]

^KIOI is also the closest thing San Fran has to a CHR so it's eatin up the CHR/Pop ratings as well as a lot of the Hot AC ratings - KLLC is really close to a Triple A now and Triple A's usually don't have high ratings in markets where there's a big Hot AC station (with a couple exceptions I think in Denver, Seattle, Minneapolis I think, etc.)