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Post by kinglouiexviii on Jun 18, 2008 13:29:42 GMT -5
[ftp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf_fTemtSsc&feature=related[/ftp]
This thread is solely to discuss the first single from Thalia's upcoming summer album, Lunada, to track its chart positioning, and simply discuss the song which has Thalia's fanbase truly divided.
Since it leaked on the internet, fans have been divided. Those who like it, really love it. They have embraced the fact that Thalia has return to her "latin, tropical" roots in a huge way. Those who dislike it, really, truly, passionately hate it! I have heard that it's too "naco" and sounds like something Kumbia Kings would have recorded.
I fall in the former category. I think it's a much interesting and original song than critics give it credit. The electric guitarr riff at the beginning is awesome, the accordion arrangement is sensational, and the mix of cumbia, vallenato, and pop is one of the most original confections in Thalia's discography since "arrasando". True, the lyrics are somewhat silly, but Thalia embraces the song in full force. She comes off the most spontaneous, care-free, and happy she has been in a long time.
This is a song for those steamy, summer nights, dancing the night away, chilling with friends under the patio, or simply enjoying the sunset with an ice-cold Tecate.
Cheers!
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Post by markreede on Jun 18, 2008 20:07:02 GMT -5
And when I posted this song in one Shakira forum, one die-hard Shakira fan (from Germany) started to love Thalia!!!  I think those fans you are pertaining to hated "reggaeton" which Thalia infused with her song, and in my opinion, the song moderately satisfied my needs, because I HIGHLY FAVORED SANGRE CALIENTE as her first single and a potential "La Tortura" of Thalia.. But anyway, I can't argue with Thalia on choosing her first single and I bet this song will mark again another milestone for Thalia, which is followed after a long-time since her "Thalia 2002" days. And btw, Thalia fans can't help to compare Amar Sin Ser Amada to Ten Paciencia in terms of performance to charts.. In America Latina, Ten Paciencia's popularity is unmatched with Amar Sin Ser Amada, since the latter only reached Mexico and Argentina but Ten Paciencia started to crawl radio charts not only in Mexico, but also in Costa Rica, Peru, Uruguay, Paraguay, Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina (I experienced it, I voted zillion times for Ten Paciencia in their charts and luckily, fans' effort are paying off  ). And in USA, since the day 1 of the music video release, a radio station in Puerto Rico (a USA territory) officially counted Ten Paciencia in Billboard charts (even though she has to really start massive promoting the album and the single after June 24 and her single has to enter the top 50 of the Hot Latin Songs) and Ritmoson Latino ( a member of Televisa Networks shown in USA, Spain and America Latina and EMI Televisa Music's sister company, Thalia's current record label) and MTV Tres (MTV's Spanish music video station in the USA) have added Ten Paciencia in their list, while ASSA, as far as I remember, was NEVER shown in MTV Tres and Ritmoson.. Bottomline, she is really loved by the media when she is on the Latin genre (seems double-speak, but somehow some people also love her when she crossed-over, especially in Japan, where her Thalia-2003 was a hit there) and her RE-embracing to the Latin genre will really help her to shine her scintillating brightness again.. (Or, should I say she learned a lesson from Thalia 2003 and El Sexto Sentido?? hehe ) VOTING POLLS FOR TEN PACIENCIA: MTV Tres (choose TP on the list): www.mtvtr3s.com/ontv/dyn/mi_trl/voting.jhtmlRitmoson Latino (choose TP on the list): www.los10primeros.tv/votaaqui.htmlMTV LATINO (type Thalia-Ten Paciencia on "Otro", provide information regarding your request) www.mtvla.com/canal/los10/HTV (type "Thalia-Ten Paciencia" on the text box): www.htv.com/scripts/tucinco/index.php3SIRIUS SATELLITE (Request A Song) www.sirius.com/universolatinoNewly added Radio Stations in the USA: www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/7/stationplaylistrequest.asp?c_let=WORC-AMwww.mediabase.com/mmrweb/7/stationplaylistrequest.asp?c_let=XAVO-FMwww.mediabase.com/mmrweb/7/stationplaylistrequest.asp?c_let=KGLA-AMwww.mediabase.com/mmrweb/7/stationplaylistrequest.asp?c_let=KBMG-FMwww.mediabase.com/mmrweb/7/stationplaylistrequest.asp?c_let=WIAC-FMRadio Disney (Latin Radio Stations, just click on Pedi Tu Temas in Mensajes option, provide necessary information regarding on your request): radiodisney-ar.disneylatino.com.ar/mensajes.jspwww.radiodisney-py.disneylatino.com/mensajes.jspwww.radiodisney.com.do/mensajes.jspwww.radiodisney.com.gt/mensajes.jspOther links that have added/and to be added Ten Paciencia (yet) in their charts: thalia.emilaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=189373thalia.emilaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=190092 |
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Post by kinglouiexviii on Jun 26, 2008 11:59:25 GMT -5
Mark:
Thanks for all of your hard work posting all of these links. I have voted on some of them already. I'm glad "TP" is finally making some progress on the charts. As someone who has followed every step of Thalia's career, I have to say that this is her best, first single since "tu y yo". It deserves more exposure. |
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Post by markreede on Jun 27, 2008 5:29:58 GMT -5
Kinglouie, have you ever followed the chart movements of Amar Sin Ser Amada?? Has TP overshadowed ASSA?? |
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Post by markreede on Jul 2, 2008 9:35:57 GMT -5
Amidst negative criticisms and almost zero promotions (*she enjoyed a short vacation according to an exclusive People en Espanol Magazine interview, now I assume she's gearing back to work*) for her recent album, Thalia is MTV Tres' Artist of the Month this July..  www.mtvtres.com has many Thalia stuffs to offer.. |
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Post by kinglouiexviii on Jul 2, 2008 15:56:59 GMT -5
Kinglouie, have you ever followed the chart movements of Amar Sin Ser Amada?? Has TP overshadowed ASSA?? ASSA went straight to No. 1 in its first week in Mexico. In the US, it took a few more weeks but eventually peak at No. 2 on Billboard's Hot Latin Songs. Everywhere else in Spain and Latin America, I'm not sure how well it did. I don't think "TP" has out-performed ASSA yet, but it can get there. And thanks for the info about MTV 3. I was wondering where she had been lately. I really hope she does at least one late night show appearance. Letterman would be great since apparently she never leaves New York City! |
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Post by markreede on Jul 2, 2008 20:57:00 GMT -5
Ten Paciencia debuted at #38 on Billboards in USA this week, and I'm pretty sure that Lunada will also peak the Latin Albums this week (*the result is yet to know*).. Latin America has a strong following on the song (It has #1's on Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Paraguay, Uruguay and Spain, Mexico has yet to follow, it just started to air the song when the album was released) and she's re-conquering MTV right now (a good debut on the MTV Tres) and #10 on Ritmoson Latino, Televisa's music channel arm.
The less promotion by herself, ironically speaking, helped her peaked at those media for her first single. Now, she's EFFECTIVELY using the "Tommy Mottola power" she misused in her commercially-disappointing albums Thalia (2003) and El Sexto Sentido..
(Postscript: Finally, since time immemorial, Thalia will do a world tour for her album.. (but next year.. ???) Whew!! That's nice to hear, I thought she's really resting on her laurels and now I'm happy that she's dead serious on putting color vivir in her music career and she's not staying all-year long on her Colorado ranch watching Dora the Explorer with her Sabrina waiting for the results of her album.. (just joking.. hehe ) ) |
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Post by markreede on Jul 3, 2008 11:36:42 GMT -5
Sin tanto promocion en la semana primera, Thalia got to enter the #10 spot on the Top Latin Albums, #4 on the Top Latin Pop Albums and #31 for Ten Paciencia in the BILLBOARDS.. |
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Post by markreede on Jul 4, 2008 2:32:11 GMT -5
#1 in MiTRL in MTV Tres.. First woman to debut in the first place... #6 in MuchMusic, #9, in CM, music video channels in Argentina.. And aside from MTV Tres and Ritmoson Latino, HTV also started to air Ten Paciencia..
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Post by kinglouiexviii on Jul 8, 2008 12:10:18 GMT -5
#1 in MiTRL in MTV Tres.. First woman to debut in the first place... #6 in MuchMusic, #9, in CM, music video channels in Argentina.. And aside from MTV Tres and Ritmoson Latino, HTV also started to air Ten Paciencia.. Niiiiice.
Where did you hear about the world tour? I haven't heard anything, but then again I have not been able to get on the web much these days b/c of work and the 4th of July. |
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Post by markreede on Jul 9, 2008 12:21:58 GMT -5
At her official forums. Btw, she has to do massive promotion now. I bet she'll not make it to the top 20 in the Billboards for this week.. TP's moving relatively slower like ASSA, not until July 17, her FIRST LIVE TV APPEARANCE for PREMIOS JUVENTUD in UNIVISION.. Maybe that would help.. |
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Post by markreede on Jul 12, 2008 18:02:58 GMT -5
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Post by markreede on Jul 22, 2008 10:54:23 GMT -5
 Thalía lanza remix con Daddy Yankee [/size] The Associated PressArticle Launched: 07/22/2008 08:46:25 AM MDT NUEVA YORK—Thalía grabó con Daddy Yankee un remix de su tema "Ten paciencia" que empezaría a sonar esta semana en la radio. La estrella mexicana y el astro boricua del reggaetón se unieron para la nueva versión del primer sencillo del más reciente álbum de Thalía, "Lunada", que salió al mercado el 24 de junio bajo el sello EMI Music. "Siempre he admirado a Daddy Yankee y su éxito", dijo Thalía en un comunicado fechado el lunes. "Para mí es verdaderamente emocionante hacer esto con él". Producido por la artista y Emilio Estefan, el álbum de 11 cortes combina temas inéditos como "Bendita", que la cantante le compuso a su hija Sabrina Sakaë, con nuevas versiones de clásicos que incluyen "Insensible" de Juan Gabriel e "Isla para dos" de Nano Cabrera. Daddy Yankee, intérprete de éxitos como "Ella me levantó" y "Gasolina", ganó en 2005 el Latin Grammy al mejor álbum de música urbana por "Barrio fino".[/center] www.elpasotimes.com/spanish/ci_9958743I do not know what I will really feel about Thalia when I see this news on her official forums.. ??? Even though I'm her ardent fan, I must say that this is a real good news but there's a bit desperation for her because of the single's idle movement in the Billboard.. EMI should help, somehow, in promoting the song, and not focusing too much on their current love, RBD.. >:( And Thalia, don't stay too longer on your Colorado Ranch, wake up girl!!! Promote your album!! >:( |
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Post by markreede on Jul 22, 2008 11:08:27 GMT -5
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Post by spongebob on Dec 26, 2008 6:31:06 GMT -5
i love it so much :) i love thalia!!!
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Post by Juanca on Dec 26, 2008 11:57:23 GMT -5
Trataré de ser objetivo con respecto a esta cancion.
La produccion, el ritmo esta bastante bueno. Como alguien escribio, es su mejor fusion probablemente desde Arrasando (mas que Tu y Yo). Me gusta tambien que ha optado por su voz suave/bebe en lugar de la mas aguda/enojada.
Lo que más me sorprende es que con más de 20 años de carrera NO pueda conseguir mejores compositores!! ??? Me molesta un poco que siga con letras estúpidas a pesar que ya su edad se empieza a notar. Ojalá que el álbum tenga joyitas y no un regreso a las épocas de las Marías cumbiamberas. Extraño una canción como Entre el Mar y una Estrella o No Me Enseñaste.
Yo sigo a Thalía desde Amarillo Azul. Me encantó la era Love y creí que de ahí se venía el despegue... Acepté que se convirtiera en la segunda Verónica Castro con su María Mercedes/Marimar/María la del Barrio, con la esperanza de un regreso a la música en serio, que sucedió con Arrasando. Pero de ahí lo siguiente no ha estado a la altura, lamentablemente :(
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I'll try to be objective regarding this song. The production and beat are pretty good. As someone wrote above, this is her best musical fusion probably since Arrasando (more than Tu Y Yo). I also like that she opted for her smooth/baby voice rather than her more accute/angry one.
What suprises me most is that, with more than 20 years of career, she can NOT get better songwriters!! ??? It bothers me a bit that she continues with stupid lyrics, even though her age cannot be hidden anymore (she looks awesome still, but I cannot help but thinking that she may be 50+ still singing childish lyrics). I hope the album has some gems and it's not a return to her Maria eras. I would like to hear again a song like Entre el Mar y una Estrella or No Me Enseñaste.
I've been following Thalía since Amarillo Azul. I loved the Love era and I believed that after that era she would step up... I accepted that she would turn into the next Verónica Castro with her María Mercedes/Marimar/María la del Barrio, with hopes that she would come back to more serious music, which happened with Arrasando. But from then on, she has not produced something similar quality-wise IMO, unfortunately :(
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Post by kinglouiexviii on Dec 31, 2008 15:38:07 GMT -5
Extraño una canción como Entre el Mar y una Estrella o No Me Enseñaste. Yo sigo a Thalía desde Amarillo Azul. Me encantó la era Love y creí que de ahí se venía el despegue... A caso no has escuchado el disco completo? Si te gustaron esas baladas, te encantara "desolvidandote" que en mi opinion es una de las mejores baladas que Thalia jamas haya grabado. Un tema con una produccion muy simple y la voz de Thalis realmente brilla por si sola. No como las baladas de ESS que aunque muy buenas, sonaban demasiado perfectas--muy sobre-producidas.
Yo respeto la opinion de todos los fans de Thalia cuando lo hacen con respeto como tu. Pero sigo sin entender porque hay muchas que dicen que su mejor era fue la de Love! Digo, la produccion de sus primer tres discos deja muuuuucho que desear.
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Post by Juanca on Jan 9, 2009 0:24:01 GMT -5
Hola!!! I will try to post more often. Last year, by January and February I posted on the Latin forum, too... but then I got trapped in the Pop forum and rarely got back here. I will try to keep coming more often. Thanks for the welcoming message :) I haven't heard the full disc yet, and I will always keep faith in Thalia. I like her voice in many songs, and I think she is capable of doing MUCH MORE than what she has done so far. That is my main problem with her. I think Love! showed her full versatility. She showed a rich voice, that sounded good with her kitty high notes, her angry strong voice and her smooth romantic voice. Besides, at that moment, the production of Love! was really good for the Latin market. "Love!" was pure techno pop (similar to Rozalla's "Everybody's Free To Feel Good", with better vocals) www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAVbYfmLORM"Sangre" was my favorite ballad of the year, it's my favorite Thalia's song and one of my favorites of the 90s (loved her voice) www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyty4Y8u4J8"La Vida En Rosa" was an acceptable cover (I liked it a lot at that time, but not as much now) www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SfkqUrW_Kg"El Dia del Amor" showed another dance pop tune with her voice going around different notes and a video resembling Material Girl, in what seemed to be like the omen of a the new Latin Madonna (instead of Yuri who wanted to grab that title by force). www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekuFtaShrf4I just heard Desolvidandote. Thanks for the recommendation. Also heard Olvidame for the first time. Des is much better than Olv IMO, but I still prefer EEMYUE and NME over Des. I think Thalia should go for a new producer, composer. She can try something else, something better than Ten Paciencia or Sera porque te Amo. She can still do it. She has a fanbase, she tried different styles, why not try something serious?? If she wanted to make it in the US market, she could have maintained the fusion stuff, but not now that she is staying in the Latin market, IMO. |
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Post by spongebob on Jan 9, 2009 7:45:42 GMT -5
votes?
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Post by clarksodi on Jan 9, 2009 14:25:55 GMT -5
Esta cancion estaba muy bien, pero jamas oi nada de promocion. Solamente entre un dia a este sitio y vi que Thalia habia sacado un nuevo disco. Se que salio en Cristina, pero realmente no hizo nada de promocion.
Alguien sabe como ha vendido? La siguiente de Thalia deberia ser Aventurero. Me fascina esa cancion!
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