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Post by PHOBES on Aug 22, 2008 14:35:58 GMT -5
When you think about it, maybe we need to separate Chart Success and Popularity away from each other because clearly they mean two different things
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Post by Cody on Aug 22, 2008 14:40:20 GMT -5
When you think about it, maybe we need to separate Chart Success and Popularity away from each other because clearly they mean two different things Yeah there ya go. Chart success is what the biggest hits are in the industry, popularity is what the biggest hits are to the people. Since Im crazy I like to go with the industry
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Post by PHOBES on Aug 22, 2008 15:06:11 GMT -5
Either way Save Me was huge for them. I found this funny, shinedown posted it on their website: Phone Revenge
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Post by fran182 on Aug 23, 2008 13:49:41 GMT -5
Other example of chart success vs popularity is Three Days Grace
i Hate Everything About is more popular but didn't as well as Just Like You in Alternative/Active
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Post by Pipa on Aug 23, 2008 16:16:45 GMT -5
Other example of chart success vs popularity is Three Days Grace i Hate Everything About is more popular but didn't as well as Just Like You in Alternative/Active Coincidentally, their breakout single is their worst song IMO.
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Post by fran182 on Aug 23, 2008 16:53:57 GMT -5
Other example of chart success vs popularity is Three Days Grace i Hate Everything About is more popular but didn't as well as Just Like You in Alternative/Active Coincidentally, their breakout single is their worst song IMO. I don't think so probably of their biggest hits the worst is Pain.....and i still like it a lot...They are one of my favorite post-grunge/hard rock bands
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Post by Cody on Aug 23, 2008 18:05:36 GMT -5
for Three Days Grace...
Their biggest Industry hit is "Pain" Their biggest People hit is "Never Too Late"
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Post by pen on Aug 23, 2008 18:46:04 GMT -5
for Three Days Grace... Their biggest Industry hit is "Pain" Their biggest People hit is "Never Too Late" Completely disagree with the latter. My vote goes to "I Hate".
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 24, 2008 3:33:53 GMT -5
for Three Days Grace... Their biggest Industry hit is "Pain" Their biggest People hit is "Never Too Late" Completely disagree with the latter. My vote goes to "I Hate". Yeah. "Never Too Late" was huge and crossed over to Pop's Top 20, but "I Hate Everything About You" still gets frequent rock radio play 5 years later.
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Post by Cody on Aug 24, 2008 10:42:32 GMT -5
Ew on Three Days Grace. Never heard any of the albums, but the only singles I don't change when I hear them are Animal I Have Become, I Don't Care, and Just Like You. I Don't Care is Apocalyptica
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 1, 2008 12:58:37 GMT -5
60 50 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 140 82 58 0.408
Well at least now I know why Devour fell so fast. This doesn't even go for adds until next week and it could potentially go top 40 before then. I'd say this could go to number one but I'm expecting a long run at the top from Metallica. I say this peaks at #2 on active and it could potentially be a top 5 on alternative too.
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Post by fran182 on Sept 1, 2008 13:49:48 GMT -5
Predcitions:
#11 at BB Modern Rock #3 at BB Mainstream Rock
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Post by blurple on Sept 3, 2008 22:42:00 GMT -5
Oh wow, this is really slower compared to Devour. This could be a potential Top 40/HAC crossover.
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Post by Cody on Sept 4, 2008 15:36:38 GMT -5
Predictions #1 Mainstream Rock (4 weeks) #7 Modern Rock Will make Top 40 CHR Early on this is doing better on Alternative then Active I'm pretty sure LOL we got a new game too, ranking singles is boring now so we just predict Billboard peaks now
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 4, 2008 15:43:05 GMT -5
You sure it'll do better there? Earlier this week is showed up on the active chart at 50 before metallica kicked it off.
Mainstream #2 - As much as I love these guys, I'm predicting Metallica to have number one, then AC/DC, then probably even GNR. Won't that be an odd feeling?
Modern #4
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Post by Cody on Sept 4, 2008 19:39:24 GMT -5
You sure it'll do better there? Earlier this week is showed up on the active chart at 50 before metallica kicked it off. Mainstream #2 - As much as I love these guys, I'm predicting Metallica to have number one, then AC/DC, then probably even GNR. Won't that be an odd feeling? Modern #4 Well R&R had this make a bigger gain on Alt than on Active this week, thats what Im saying lol, I agree that after it's all said and done, this is doing better on Mainstream Rock. And I have a bad feeling about Metallica, My Apocalypse might end "The Day That Never Comes" just like "Viva La Vida" killed "Violet Hill" on Modern for Coldplay
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 4, 2008 20:00:08 GMT -5
And I have a bad feeling about Metallica, My Apocalypse might end "The Day That Never Comes" just like "Viva La Vida" killed "Violet Hill" on Modern for Coldplay What's worse is that the just released Cyanide too, and soon they'll release a fourth. Expect to see four Metallica songs hanging around before long.
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Post by pen on Sept 5, 2008 6:58:25 GMT -5
And I have a bad feeling about Metallica, My Apocalypse might end "The Day That Never Comes" just like "Viva La Vida" killed "Violet Hill" on Modern for Coldplay What's worse is that the just released Cyanide too, and soon they'll release a fourth. Expect to see four Metallica songs hanging around before long. Well maybe if radio would stop playing every Metallica song that gets put up on their site........but good luck with that.
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 5, 2008 17:07:15 GMT -5
What's worse is that the just released Cyanide too, and soon they'll release a fourth. Expect to see four Metallica songs hanging around before long. Well maybe if radio would stop playing every Metallica song that gets put up on their site........but good luck with that. I don't think even Metallica minds, all three songs are on itunes and the fourth will be released next week. Cyanide is the number 1 rock song on itunes, TDTNC is 5th, and My Apocalypse is 10th.
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Post by pen on Sept 5, 2008 17:12:28 GMT -5
The album's leaked anyways. It's awesome, by the way. Fav tracks so far are "The Day That Never Comes", "That Was Just Your Life", "The Unforgiven III", "My Apocalypse", "All Nightmare Long", and "The End Of The Line". Really the only one I don't like is "Suicide And Redemption", and that's cause I've never been a big fan of their instrumentals and at 9 minutes it just feels like it goes on way too long, especially since they set up the perfect ending near the end of the song only to launch into another repetitive riff and fade out. Lame.
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Post by Bluemargay on Sept 5, 2008 21:59:08 GMT -5
Simple Man proved you can get a big hit from a cover of a lynyrd skynyrd song that isn't sweet home alabama
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 5, 2008 22:20:30 GMT -5
....or Free Bird.
On a side note, Simple Man has always been my favorite Skynyrd song. And the fact that Shinedown covered it got me really interested in them.
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Post by fran182 on Sept 6, 2008 7:23:36 GMT -5
Shinedown gets so much love here...
Where's Artie?
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 6, 2008 10:34:01 GMT -5
Shinedown gets so much love here... Where's Artie? Well it is their thread. RT had to reboot.
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Post by fran182 on Sept 6, 2008 12:43:25 GMT -5
When i say here....i mean the alternative section
lol
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 7, 2008 0:19:45 GMT -5
Ok, so I just saw them perform this on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and all I can say is......I love these guys and all.......but they totally Ashlee Simpsoned this thing. www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/video/episodes/Select September 5th at the bottom and then choose the last chapter for their performance.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Sept 7, 2008 4:21:30 GMT -5
While I agree his vocals are frighteningly accurate and similar to the album, what else leads you to believe that they're pre-recorded? Is there a specific moment that tips it off for you or is it just that it seems to close to the album version to be true?
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 7, 2008 16:37:33 GMT -5
it seems to close to the album version to be true I have listened to this song (and album) way too much. And I mean, it was exactly on, nothing sounded any different at all.
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Post by Cody on Sept 7, 2008 21:13:50 GMT -5
Shinedown is probably the best live sounding band I can think of though. Look at any of their performances on youtube and its really close to the studio stuff
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Post by PHOBES on Sept 7, 2008 21:45:09 GMT -5
Shinedown is probably the best live sounding band I can think of though. Look at any of their performances on youtube and its really close to the studio stuff Yes but there's a big difference in "Close" and "Exact"
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