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Post by britrocks16 on Feb 21, 2006 19:38:09 GMT -5
I just hope the video is HOT and not a sad type (BTHE, BOY)
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Post by corpus on Feb 21, 2006 22:35:18 GMT -5
Yeah..the TRL awards have already been taped...Mariah won the award, not Kelly... Oh well...it's not that prestigious of an award... ..but good for Mariah..she's done well also this year
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Post by pce2b on Feb 22, 2006 18:09:44 GMT -5
Kelly won an award though - like "countdown killer" or something like that...
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Post by John77 on Feb 22, 2006 20:43:15 GMT -5
I forewarned you all about Mary J. Blige... and it's happened... a day sooner than predicted (I said 10 days, she did it in 9)...
8 6 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 5784 5293 491 44.074 7 7 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall,... 5719 5706 13 35.866 4 8 CHRIS BROWN Run It 5659 6481 -822 37.287 12 9 MARY J. BLIGE Be Without You 5535 4190 1345 49.111 9 10 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 5463 5045 418 37.604
Also, the post-Grammy spike that WA got is wearing off as she's now losing ground again in spins to Natasha...
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Post by bubblepop15 on Feb 22, 2006 20:45:54 GMT -5
I forewarned you all about Mary J. Blige... and it's happened... 8 6 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 5784 5293 491 44.074 7 7 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall,... 5719 5706 13 35.866 4 8 CHRIS BROWN Run It 5659 6481 -822 37.287 12 9 MARY J. BLIGE Be Without You 5535 4190 1345 49.111 9 10 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 5463 5045 418 37.604 Oh no. What are we going to do. Thank goodness John saved us again.
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Post by John77 on Feb 22, 2006 20:47:42 GMT -5
I forewarned you all about Mary J. Blige... and it's happened... 8 6 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 5784 5293 491 44.074 7 7 NELLY Grillz (f/Paul Wall,... 5719 5706 13 35.866 4 8 CHRIS BROWN Run It 5659 6481 -822 37.287 12 9 MARY J. BLIGE Be Without You 5535 4190 1345 49.111 9 10 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 5463 5045 418 37.604 Oh no. What are we going to do. Thank goodness John saved us again. Thanks. ;) Just been trying to keep it real all along...
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 22, 2006 20:56:39 GMT -5
Yeah, how embarassing for Kelly to be passed by an incredibly hyped first single that has a bullet of well over 1300 spins and is passing songs left and right. She should just quit the music business.
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Post by bubblepop15 on Feb 22, 2006 21:01:24 GMT -5
Yeah, how embarassing for Kelly to be passed by an incredibly hyped first single that has a bullet of well over 1300 spins and is passing songs left and right. She should just quit the music business. That would be the best idea. I mean, if she didn't even hit #1 with SUBG, she never will hit #1. She should go back to acting.
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Post by clem on Feb 22, 2006 21:06:01 GMT -5
Gosh, "Walk Away" must be crap to only make Top 10. I mean, her existent bullet doesn't mean anything, does it? Because once she drops from #9, she'll never make it back up there again. Never. Kelly, you have disappointed all of us. How could you lose to Mary J. Blige, of all people? How could you be so dumb to release a fresh, innovative-sounding song? You need to change your musical direction and produce more generic pop. Or, go for the ballads, like Blige. Then, you won't underperform next time!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 22, 2006 21:08:28 GMT -5
Yeah, how embarassing for Kelly to be passed by an incredibly hyped first single that has a bullet of well over 1300 spins and is passing songs left and right. She should just quit the music business. That would be the best idea. I mean, if she didn't even hit #1 with SUBG, she never will hit #1. She should go back to acting. Yep.
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Post by britrocks16 on Feb 22, 2006 21:29:49 GMT -5
ROFL! I think this is going to peak soon though, the video may help downloads a little but I don't think it'll help Airplay that much.
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Post by Say It Right Only On Sundays on Feb 22, 2006 21:53:08 GMT -5
Thank goodness, I want this to peak lower than her other songs from this album.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Feb 22, 2006 22:32:47 GMT -5
I still believe this will most definitely go top 5 and peak late March/early April.
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Post by pubescentmonster on Feb 22, 2006 23:12:53 GMT -5
Walk Away seems to be stuck in the #30s on iTunes. Is this the most a song can go without a music video? I know the BOY video was kind of late. Where was it on iTunes before the video came out? hell no Cascada has a video but MTV/Vh1 havent even played it once. Yet its #5 and #67 on Itunes i'm sure WALK AWAY can do better.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 22, 2006 23:17:31 GMT -5
When Cascada is on their fifth single and have a huge selling cd, we will see where they are on Itunes with no video :)
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Post by OUcultjam on Feb 23, 2006 14:33:36 GMT -5
Hopefully we'll have a lot to talk about after the video debuts this weekend.
I checked NYC's top 30... Walk Away isn't even on it anymore. However, "Gone" gained 12 more spins to put it at #11. WTF??? Plus Natasha has been given 53 new spins putting it at #3. Adding 53 spins in a week?! That deserves another WTF!
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Post by Jeff on Feb 23, 2006 15:09:31 GMT -5
Still perdicting a top 5 (4 most likely) peek here in a few weeks. I think the no publicity and no video is Killing it big time. But, eh, the video is coming out soon, that'll give it a boost.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Feb 23, 2006 15:11:02 GMT -5
Hopefully we'll have a lot to talk about after the video debuts this weekend. I checked NYC's top 30... Walk Away isn't even on it anymore. However, "Gone" gained 12 more spins to put it at #11. WTF??? Plus Natasha has been given 53 new spins putting it at #3. Adding 53 spins in a week?! That deserves another WTF! That station is retarded.
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Post by Filthy Pop on Feb 23, 2006 15:24:26 GMT -5
Good video is coming out this weekend, where are they debuting it first?
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Post by Jeff on Feb 23, 2006 16:10:58 GMT -5
TRL Awards this saturday, don't know if you can vote for it on Sunday and have it debut on Monday or open voting on Monday and have it debut on Tuesday.
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Post by OUcultjam on Feb 23, 2006 17:38:30 GMT -5
The TRL Awards commercial doesn't mention the "Walk Away" video premiere anymore. It just says that Kelly will give her fans the scoop. I wonder if it wasn't ready so they've postponed it and will debut it on TRL next week. Joseph Kahn has had a busy couple of weeks so it's very possible.
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Feb 23, 2006 18:07:31 GMT -5
Hopefully we'll have a lot to talk about after the video debuts this weekend. I checked NYC's top 30... Walk Away isn't even on it anymore. However, "Gone" gained 12 more spins to put it at #11. WTF??? Plus Natasha has been given 53 new spins putting it at #3. Adding 53 spins in a week?! That deserves another WTF! Y100 is also slipping on "Walk Away". I've literally heard it once and not ever since...but they've started playing the Jason Nevins remix of "Because of You" in regular rotation. I assume that they got the testing that people still like that song but are getting tired. So do they pump up spins of her new single? no! But seriously...the stuff with "Gone" is fucking wierd.
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Post by Pulse on Feb 23, 2006 18:09:11 GMT -5
The TRL Awards commercial doesn't mention the "Walk Away" video premiere anymore. It just says that Kelly will give her fans the scoop. I wonder if it wasn't ready so they've postponed it and will debut it on TRL next week. Joseph Kahn has had a busy couple of weeks so it's very possible. Yeah, I just saw that. I was like thinking "Did they change the commercial". I guess they did :(
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Post by MusicJunkie on Feb 23, 2006 18:12:29 GMT -5
Oh no, that video BETTER premiere this Saturday.
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Post by John77 on Feb 23, 2006 22:04:09 GMT -5
Top 10 is GREAT for a 5th single... looks like this one's gonna end up right around where I thought it would...
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Post by Focus on Feb 23, 2006 22:23:17 GMT -5
And what position did you say "Walk Away" would end up John? I'm betting Top 5 or better. The best is yet to come, especially if the video is completely different than anything she's done before. That should give it a big boost.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Feb 23, 2006 23:28:59 GMT -5
Gosh, "Walk Away" must be crap to only make Top 10. I mean, her existent bullet doesn't mean anything, does it? Because once she drops from #9, she'll never make it back up there again. Never. Kelly, you have disappointed all of us. How could you lose to Mary J. Blige, of all people? How could you be so dumb to release a fresh, innovative-sounding song? You need to change your musical direction and produce more generic pop. Or, go for the ballads, like Blige. Then, you won't underperform next time! [/end sarcastic rant] LMMFAO. As for the song, I think Top 5 is a possibility. Kelly's songs have longetivity, so this should stick around for awhile.
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Post by John77 on Feb 24, 2006 0:16:31 GMT -5
And what position did you say "Walk Away" would end up John? I'm betting Top 5 or better. The best is yet to come, especially if the video is completely different than anything she's done before. That should give it a big boost. 9 is the peak position I predicted all along... and I'm sticking with it... there's no reason to change it... Her spins have slowed dramatically this week (though some of this is due to the spike she got after the Grammys)... it's entirely possible this will peak before the video comes out... anyone that's inside the music industry will tell you that videos have very little to do with radio airplay in this day and age... we're in 2006, not 1986...
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Post by sleepy time on Feb 24, 2006 0:28:39 GMT -5
And what position did you say "Walk Away" would end up John? I'm betting Top 5 or better. The best is yet to come, especially if the video is completely different than anything she's done before. That should give it a big boost. 9 is the peak position I predicted all along... and I'm sticking with it... there's no reason to change it... Her spins have slowed dramatically this week... it's entirely possible this will peak before the video comes out... anyone that's inside the music industry will tell you that videos have very little to do with radio airplay in this day and age... we're in 2006, not 1986... That's complete crap. Pink's video is the reason why her song will probably go top ten. The "Dirrty" video (where she slutted herself out) clearly had a negative impact on the fate of that song, as well as the "Beautiful" video (where she displayed different lifestyles) having a positive one on it for Christina. Videos get people talking and give people a visual to go with a song. They're incredibly important not only because they're a piece of art (just like the music that they're set to), but also because they're a promotional tool. If videos didnt serve a purpose, they wouldn't be made. And since they're made for singles and not whole albums, one could easily say that a music video (or lack of one) is a critical piece of the puzzle regarding how a song performs. So yeah. Everyone knows that you don't like this song and don't "support" it or whatever. But don't make sweeping, stupid statements like "video's don't matter", because they set the tone for an album, attract attention to the song and the artist, and make the artist more accessible and fresh on the mind than if they didn't have one made.
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Post by John77 on Feb 24, 2006 1:24:15 GMT -5
9 is the peak position I predicted all along... and I'm sticking with it... there's no reason to change it... Her spins have slowed dramatically this week... it's entirely possible this will peak before the video comes out... anyone that's inside the music industry will tell you that videos have very little to do with radio airplay in this day and age... we're in 2006, not 1986... That's complete crap. No it's the truth and the truth of the matter is some people don't want to hear the truth... There have been plenty of songs that have gotten to #1 without the aid of a video, and as we just saw, a sub-par video production like with Carrie Underwood's "Jesus, Take The Wheel" didn't huirt her sales or her Country chart run now, did it??? Pink's video will have next to ZERO to do with the song going top 10... if it even gets there... it's slowing a lot in spins... Christina's problem has SOME to do with the video, but MORE to do with her sudden image change and that AWFUL "Stripped" album cover... That album cover in most people's minds was the thing that most negatively impacted sales... I for one didn't buy the album because of that cover... I did pay for and download the songs I liked off it though... The only real purpose a video serves in this day and age is to give a visual of an artist and to keep that artist visible... an EXTREMELY bad or good video may SLIGHTLY impact sales and airplay on a song... but today, those instances are very few and far between... Who is "everyone"??? My statement is sweeping, but not stupid... just honest and stating the facts... if you don't like the facts, that's fine and you can disagree with me all you want... but you don't have make rude remarks about me while you do it... Have a nice day. :)
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