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Post by 7thfairway on Mar 15, 2006 22:02:26 GMT -5
and yes, I DO think Unwritten is a better song than Walk Away, and I think it will suck if WA gets #1 over it because it's by Kelly. (if they could both be #1 that would rock, though). Laffy Taffy got to #1 on the hot 100...there are thousands of songs that were more deserving (including Kelly songs), so don't jump on my throat for saying that. it's just how i feel. am I so wrong for wanting another one of my favorite artists to have a #1 song?? Kelly's already had a bunch, so it's not gonna hurt her if it peaks at #2 or #3... This isn't kindergarded where everyone GETS A TURN ON TOP. If you like Unwritten more than WA and want it to do better thats a fair, valid, mature reason - but saying Kellys already had more than her share of hits and lets let Natasha have this one just because - is freaking c h i l d i s h.
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Post by shannonk68 on Mar 15, 2006 22:24:38 GMT -5
no one said you weren't entitled to your opinion and no one said it would "hurt" Kelly to peak at #2 or #3, hell it wouldn't hurt her to peak at #5 or even #10 for that matter the point I was trying to make, which you seemed to have missed, is that it's the listeners who decide which songs are worthy of #1 and which are not. If Laffy Taffy made it to #1 then I suppose enough people wanted to hear it. To say that Kelly shouldn't get more #1 songs because she's had her share doesn't make sense IMO, how do you measure when someone's had enough success when they work their butts off putting out great music? I like Unwritten too but it's not a song I can listen to over and over like Walk Away is but if it made it to #1 over Walk Away I certainly wouldn't begrudge natasha her #1 song just because I like another song more. Saying that one song deserves #1 over another because the artist in question has had enough just doesn't make sense. Didn't Mariah Just have like her 18th #1 song in her career? I guess by that theory she should stop too and make room for your favorites so they can have a turn. LOL.
Kelly has consistently put out amazing music. Walk Away isn't the best track on the album but I wanted this one released before she released BTHE because it's so damn catchy and fun to sing along too so I'm thrilled it's doing so well. I don't think it'll get to #1 but I'll take #3 or #4 even and be satisfied since it's her 4th (or 5th if you count breakaway) single off the album.
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Post by Pulse on Mar 15, 2006 22:36:34 GMT -5
I think the spike in the bullet COULD be attributed to the fact that in the video Kelly basically gives a shout out to radio for playing her music. It makes people want to hear it ON THE RADIO so they too can sing a long like the people in the video. It's not a hard idea to grasp if you don't try to overanalyze it. LOL! I think you're looking at it too deeply. But I agree the video helped radio in a sense. It was very good public relations to include Z100 in the video (And I dont mean that in a bad way and I dont think theres anything wrong with that, it was smart and who wouldnt want better airplay?)
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Post by MusicJunkie on Mar 15, 2006 22:41:43 GMT -5
I wonder if the bullet will get higher tomorrow, like over 500. That would be incredible! I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 15, 2006 23:17:29 GMT -5
I dont think split meant that she thinks everyone should get a week at #1...but it is obnoxious when one artist dominates #1 forever and ever while others miss out. Remember when BTHE missed #1 on the pop charts? I remember thinking "Dude, Mariah, just fall and give Kelly a chance!" I know its not...true, meaning the charts are not kindergarden where everyone gets a chance, but I think its a natural feeling to want a favorite artist or song to get #1 instead of another artist dominating with multiple songs and multiple weeks at #1. More of a feeling than a everyone deserves a chance thing. If that makes any sense Oh and I dont think listeners decide what goes to #1. I think the execs of radio and labels decide what goes to #1. (or at least, they try too-sometimes I dont think it works and a song ends up being blocked at #2 or #3) Call me cynical, but its just my opinion. That being said, I would love to see Walk Away go to #1...I love the song. But I think she will miss it. Im hoping for a top 3 finish now though and I personally think top 5 is INCREDIBLE already.
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Post by Ragin on Mar 16, 2006 7:22:56 GMT -5
I used to think once you were in the top3 or so it really didn't matter, that #1 was not that big a deal.
Sometimes it isn't, but sometimes it makes a HUGE difference down the road. Now I like Unwritten quite a bit, not sure about a #1 song, but I like it quite a bit. Then I ask myself is Natasha Beddingfield the type of artist I want to see cemented at radio as a result of hitting #1, and my answer comes to, No, I don't.
As for Walk Away, whether it's "deserving" or not, I guess I'd have to say it's every bit as deserving as Miss Independent. You guys can debate that one. I really don't think this will hit #1 anyway, so I think it's a moot point. The song I'd hate to see held out of the top spot is Beautiful by James Blunt. Now that's a song that I'd call deserving.
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Post by Mike on Mar 16, 2006 7:52:09 GMT -5
The bullet has risen to +542. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lol.
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Post by clem on Mar 16, 2006 9:54:17 GMT -5
I wonder if the bullet will get higher tomorrow, like over 500. That would be incredible! I guess we'll have to wait and see. Wow, you're good! Move over, Miss Cleo!
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Post by John77 on Mar 16, 2006 9:54:45 GMT -5
YAY!!! PAYOLA WAS SENT!!!!!!! I REALLY thought and hoped you were kidding. This is sad to see. I feel sorry for Kelly and being one of her fans, I'm disappointed that her record label has gone to this length.
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Post by mememe on Mar 16, 2006 9:57:34 GMT -5
LMAO at John! You are too funny!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 16, 2006 10:00:26 GMT -5
LMAO at John! You are too funny! hehe Its so great to see her have another SMASH hit! And she is only 1,000 spins out of the #1 spot. Two songs are moving up faster than her and of course, Natasha is ahead of her with a large bullet, but Im hoping she can snag at least a #3 spot!
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Post by Focus on Mar 16, 2006 10:12:04 GMT -5
Awww..poor John. This must be killin' ya. GO KELLY!! Such a great catchy song deserves to do this well.
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Post by DaveZ35 on Mar 16, 2006 10:12:22 GMT -5
This song is losing spins on WKST Pittsburgh. I'm shocked b/c they were a huge supporter of Kelly in 2005. Well, maybe it'll pick up again. The bullet is amazing! Congrats Kelly!
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Post by OUcultjam on Mar 16, 2006 10:24:42 GMT -5
John, you've said yourself that a huge number of overnight spins is a definite sign of payola. Do you see that with this song? No.
Up to #3 on the Jump chart!
WA's Bullet: Friday +18 Saturday +102 Sunday +165 Monday +296 Tuesday +347 Wednesday +460 Thursday +542
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Post by 7thfairway on Mar 16, 2006 12:55:23 GMT -5
YAY!!! PAYOLA WAS SENT!!!!!!! I REALLY thought and hoped you were kidding. This is sad to see. I feel sorry for Kelly and being one of her fans, I'm disappointed that her record label has gone to this length. John77. A tad sore about your mistake are you. You can't handle the truth - if it doesn't fit into you're neat little 6th grade box of raionale and deduction then something must be wrong - YOU could NEVER be wrong could you? I wouldn't trust a ham sandwich with you much less the analysis or prediction for a songs success. Day in and day out you continually prove learning from past mistakes just isn't possible for some people and the scope of circumstances and subtle conditions that rule movement on the charts is revealed in many languages - most of which you don't speak or even comprehend their existance.
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Post by Pulse on Mar 16, 2006 13:29:38 GMT -5
Yeah, thats the impression Im getting too. That somehow John cant admit he was wrong with predictions, it means that there was payola LOL (And even if there was payola..so what? That should have been factored into the predictions ;) )
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Post by pce2b on Mar 16, 2006 15:08:18 GMT -5
Why would the label risk its reputation in the middle of a payola investigation to support a 5th single? That's absurd and it seems that people who predicted a lower peak are sore that they were mistaken. Its the video, the video, the video.
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Post by CriminallySmooth on Mar 16, 2006 15:17:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt if payola was involved i mean come on the bullet was down to next to nothing last week and suddenly its over 500? I really doubt TRL made such a huge impact. Not many people even watch that show except for die-hards that are voting for their favorite.
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Post by Focus on Mar 16, 2006 15:25:14 GMT -5
^ Sorry, but that's not true.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Mar 16, 2006 15:28:36 GMT -5
I wonder if the bullet will get higher tomorrow, like over 500. That would be incredible! I guess we'll have to wait and see. Wow, you're good! Move over, Miss Cleo! I know! I'm so happy I was right! The bullet is incredible and I can't believe the video has made this much impact. Coming from a Kelly fan, I don't care if it was payola or not because at the end of the day, it will still be remembered as being a big hit. BTW John, I'm SO happy you predicted wrong. I'm sorry but I'm ECSTATIC at your prediction being wrong lol. I'm like jumping up and down at your incorrectness. Walk Away is too good to meet your crappy prediction. But it's okay, you should be happy that you were wrong. ;) GO KELLY!!!
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Post by PerPlexied on Mar 16, 2006 15:36:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think it's payola here. I could maybe, MAYBE see them doing it if 'Walk Away' tanked (to avoid another 'Losing Grip') but it looked like it was gonna peak @ 6 and that is nothing to sneeze at. So I agree with it being the video/the big thank you to radio.
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Post by shannonk68 on Mar 16, 2006 19:19:19 GMT -5
Kelly also gave a huge shout out to radio at the grammy's...perhaps they think it's nice for an artist to acknowledge their part if their success....
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Post by The Music Man on Mar 16, 2006 19:58:27 GMT -5
I don't think that Walk Away's second wind was payola-induced, but I DO think that this is INCREDIBLE for Kelly.
Think about it, this is her fifth single off an album that has already produced four huge singles, three of which went to #1 and the fourth may as well have gone to #1 (would have if it weren't for Mimi, but I digress). And let's be honest, this is by no means bad, but it isn't as good or fresh as her past three singles, which truly established her as an artist.
So a Top 10 appearance would have been enough to render "Walk Away" a success. However, she went one further, and now appears poised to hit the Top 3 with her FIFTH SINGLE. That is HUGE for an artist whose career was in question a mere year and a half ago. Truth be told, it probably would have happened earlier if not for the huge amounts of airplay going to "Because Of You", and to lesser but still significant extents, SUBG and BTHE.
All this does is go to show you the faith that radio has in Kelly, and that she is going to be around for a long, long time - longer than anyone would have expected in 2002. "Walk Away" closes out the album on a huge note, truly making "Breakaway" one of the most successful and (pleasantly) surprising projects of the past year.
GO KELLY!
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Post by Mike on Mar 16, 2006 20:47:09 GMT -5
I wonder if the bullet will crack +600 tomorrow... That would be incredible.
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Post by Robert J on Mar 16, 2006 21:18:30 GMT -5
I still don't think that the video has been the sole excuse for this second wind. At the same time, I think it could be a large part as to why Z100 finally started spinning this song over "Gone," which I could see having caused other stations to increase their spins.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 16, 2006 21:24:30 GMT -5
I think it got a second wind for various reasons. Firstly, some monetary support was probably provided...but I dont see a song in the entire top 10 that doesnt have that. Also, Kelly is the radio darling of the year-radio probably didnt want to let go of her new single before it even peaked top 5. That coupled with the video and a surge in downloads...plus I have a sneaking suspicion its well liked. All probably had something to do with the second wind.
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Post by slowmo on Mar 16, 2006 23:05:23 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong (I know someone will), but isn't this about par for the course for a Kelly single? It seems that they shoot up, level off and look like it's going to die, and then get a second life.
I wouldn't doubt that the video had a bit of an impact on the recent increase added to the fact that BOY is finally clearing out at a lot of stations. I know the KIIS still doesn't have this in power rotation, it only has a few there right now, and I haven't checked any other stations, but were there several that did bump it up in the past week? Another thing to add, it's a good pop song and done by a safe proven pop artist. It's a bit quirky, but not so much that people will burn out of it really fast.
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Post by musiclives on Mar 17, 2006 0:20:02 GMT -5
Up to #11 on Itunes!
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Post by Mike on Mar 17, 2006 0:21:28 GMT -5
Awesome! I hope she can crack into the top 10 in the next few days. I'm also hoping for her to hop into the top 15 of the Hot 100 next week.
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Post by stitch on Mar 17, 2006 1:28:00 GMT -5
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