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Post by WotUNeed on Mar 31, 2009 2:54:38 GMT -5
^Yeah, I've noticed that if you add up all the weeks' sales numbers for Christian bands then it always comes out to be more than what soundscan has listed as the total. My guess is that they don't want them to have the advantage of being sold in more stores. It actually has something to do with the way those numbers are reported. I can't remember the exact explanation, but my impression was that it's not a conscious decision to exclude them, but rather a quirk of the tracking mechanism.
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Post by PHOBES on Mar 31, 2009 12:52:54 GMT -5
I don't get your point. Do you mean that the extra sales shouldn't count because they're sold in Christian stores? Not at all. It just kinda seemed to me that they're (becoming?) one of those bands who try to downplay Christianity's role in their music. And while I'm sure they're all for their music being sold to their Christian fans in Christian stores, those sales might not necessarily be something the band takes personal interest in quite as much as the "secular" big picture. I dunno. That was just the impression that I got recently. Oh, well that makes more sense. One thing I've noticed about these guys is that when asked if they're a Christian band they answer with an emphatic "Yes." They're a lot closer to their Christian roots then say....Chevelle. And we all know how that went lol.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 14, 2009 12:40:34 GMT -5
So "Shadows" is the song co-written with Ben Burnley?
Then why does this song sound like a Breaking Benjamin ripoff? ???
(Also, the delivery of the last couple lines in the bridge after all the build-up and screaming is over reminds me of NIN's "Capital G.")
Anyway, it's not bad, but I pretty handily prefer "Already Over" of the two.
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Post by pen on Apr 14, 2009 12:41:47 GMT -5
Red sounds a lot like Linkin Park and BB, yes. I appreciate their use of classical elements though in their work.
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 14, 2009 13:42:08 GMT -5
If only more bands sounded like Breaking Benjamin (as opposed to the bands like Seether and Three Days Grace that really don't sound like them), then the world would be a much better place. End of Silence sounded like Linkin Park, but Innocence & Instinct sounds more like BB, which is probably why I consider the latter one as one of my all time favorite albums. In other news, I'm just glad to see this one take off. Admittedly, it's my least favorite single of theirs and it's far from the best on the album, but I still want to see these guys get the success they deserve.
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Post by pen on Apr 14, 2009 14:20:05 GMT -5
Okay, sorry to get a bit off-topic here, but no one here has a problem with me other than maybe Ziff and that one cranky dude who comes in three times a year, right? There's no cult plotting against me is there?
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 14, 2009 14:37:01 GMT -5
^Wha???
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Post by pen on Apr 14, 2009 14:38:40 GMT -5
I have to protect my kidneys.
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 14, 2009 14:39:46 GMT -5
Okay, sorry to get a bit off-topic here, but no one here has a problem with me other than maybe Ziff and that one cranky dude who comes in three times a year, right? There's no cult plotting against me is there? There were some guys over on the Venture Brothers boards that didn't like you very much, but other than that I think you're good.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 14, 2009 14:48:39 GMT -5
Okay, sorry to get a bit off-topic here, but no one here has a problem with me other than maybe Ziff and that one cranky dude who comes in three times a year, right? There's no cult plotting against me is there? As you said it's a bit off topic, but I'm just curious what prompted you to say this in the first place. It's kinda like when my grandmother randomly tells me some fairly inconsequential, unrelated story from when she was growing up nearly every time I see her that always makes me wonder "now what could have possibly triggered her to remember that right at this moment, and better yet, why did she have to broadcast it to the entire family?" I guess what I'm really trying to say Penance is that you're like a grandma to me.
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Post by pen on Apr 14, 2009 14:50:24 GMT -5
Okay, sorry to get a bit off-topic here, but no one here has a problem with me other than maybe Ziff and that one cranky dude who comes in three times a year, right? There's no cult plotting against me is there? There were some guys over on the Venture Brothers boards that didn't like you very much, but other than that I think you're good.
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Post by pen on Apr 14, 2009 14:52:24 GMT -5
Okay, sorry to get a bit off-topic here, but no one here has a problem with me other than maybe Ziff and that one cranky dude who comes in three times a year, right? There's no cult plotting against me is there? As you said it's a bit off topic, but I'm just curious what prompted you to say this in the first place. It's kinda like when my grandmother randomly tells me some fairly inconsequential, unrelated story from when she was growing up nearly every time I see her that always makes me wonder "now what could have possibly triggered her to remember that right at this moment, and better yet, why did she have to broadcast it to the entire family?" I guess what I'm really trying to say Penance is that you're like a grandma to me. Alright, I'll explain. Some dude on Tunelab called me out, we had a big brouhaha, said he changed his name to do it and he's apparently part of a group of people that are anti-me, and the Tunelab guys say he's not from the Tunelab forum, and so naturally I wondered if he might be from here. I'm trying to solve the Mystery of the Insane Music Cultists.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 14, 2009 14:56:08 GMT -5
If only my grandmother could rationalize her random interjections like you can.
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 14, 2009 14:58:31 GMT -5
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Post by pen on Apr 14, 2009 15:00:21 GMT -5
Hahahhaha, if only.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 15, 2009 23:59:39 GMT -5
End of Silence sounded like Linkin Park, but Innocence & Instinct sounds more like BB, which is probably why I consider the latter one as one of my all time favorite albums. All-time favorites?? It just came out two months ago... ???
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Post by PHOBES on Apr 16, 2009 21:30:38 GMT -5
End of Silence sounded like Linkin Park, but Innocence & Instinct sounds more like BB, which is probably why I consider the latter one as one of my all time favorite albums. All-time favorites?? It just came out two months ago... ??? Yeah, it's good my friend. But, to be honest, it's probably not your style.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Apr 17, 2009 14:09:52 GMT -5
Pen, you better watch yo back. The Mike Jones Mafia is coming fo yo azz.
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Post by fran182 on May 15, 2009 17:04:09 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 10 on Mediabase Active:
13 10 RED Death Of Me 1042 1040 2 3.074
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Post by PHOBES on May 15, 2009 17:10:35 GMT -5
Wow really? Last I checked this was slowing down. Huh, you stop paying attention to the charts for three days and one of your favorite bands gets their first top 10 hit, go figure.
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Post by jvandyck87 on May 15, 2009 17:25:07 GMT -5
Well it does only have bullet of +2 so it looks like some songs are moving over and dying for it. But this song should be a top 10 for them after the success of the last album, and with the sales of this one thus far. Honestly, if their affiliation to christian formats wasn't so strong, I'd say this is a top 5 here.
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Post by PHOBES on May 26, 2009 12:09:56 GMT -5
Well this is officially top ten now, finally. Just in time too, cause LP just knocked it down to number 11. Honestly, I'm surprised it did so well. I like "Death of Me," but it's one of the weakest tracks on the album and definitely their weakest single to date. Now they just need to release "Shadows" so they can get a top 5.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 2, 2009 12:12:46 GMT -5
I'm really starting to like twitter:
Me: Hey guys, congrats on getting your first mainstream rock radio top ten with "Death of Me." That said, any news on a new single?
Red: #2 actually
OK so they wouldn't budge on the new single, but am I missing where "Breathe Into Me" or something else went top 10?
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Post by pen on Jun 2, 2009 12:19:16 GMT -5
No, "Breathe Into Me" only went up to #15.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 2, 2009 12:24:55 GMT -5
No, "Breathe Into Me" only went up to #15. This is why I'm confused.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 4, 2009 10:28:07 GMT -5
I´m pretty sure it reached #10 and its #15 peak is for Billboard Mainstream Rock. It at least went to #10 at R&R and likely came close at mediabase if it didn´t also go top 10 there. It only reached 15 on billboard because none of the heritage rock stations were keen on playing a brand new song from the christian Linkin Park.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 4, 2009 14:12:53 GMT -5
Wow, I knew that was a possibility, but I didn't think it'd make a difference of 5 spots. I believe Mudvayne had the number one Active Rock single recently on R&R for a few weeks without being able to top Mediabase or Billboard. But that was only a difference of one spot, since I'm pretty sure it peaked at number two on both of those other charts.
Kinda BS, especially now after the demise of R&R, but thanks for the info nevertheless.
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